Serie's Compressed Mana = Frieren's Full Mana

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@meouby2 Месяц назад

Serie suppression = frieren mana without suppression. Thats how scary she is . She could defeat demon king but juts feel theres no point to it

@shaderunner7.0 Месяц назад

Defeating the demon king to bring about an era of peace would be counter-productive for a person who loves fighting

@JojoJoget Месяц назад

Serie is older than Frieren. Just saying. She could but she’s too afraid of doing so.

@freyawargoddesss6287 Месяц назад

Sorry but thats wrong, its already said by serie that power alone is not enough to beat the demon king, she already tried and failed.

@HwanTheLight Месяц назад

I think Flamme says something like how Frieren will be able to kill the Demon King and Serie couldn't. It's also mentioned many times that in matters of magic it's not just the amount of mana that determines who will win or lose. Just like how it's implied that Frieren will probably die to a human mage, and how Fern is capable of killing Frieren (implied by both Frieren and Serie), it makes sense that there is some other factor required to defeat the Demon King that isn't just having more mana. The series also mentions the importance of imagination as well. There might be a reason why Serie is unable to imagine beating the Demon Lord, and Frieren is able to imagine killing the Demon Lord thanks to Himmel and the party maybe? Either way, I don't think it's as simple as "Serie could've killed the Demon Lord but he didn't cause he couldn't be bothered". The series goes to great lengths to show that magic is more complicated than that.

@lastraven7205 Месяц назад

@@HwanTheLightSerie very explicitly said that she couldn't imagine how it's even possible to defeat the demon king.

@terakhan6656 Месяц назад

Putting all the scenes together, we have no idea how much of Serie's power is suppressed. Only that it is, at a level of control that is nearly flawless. Her own supposedly best students don't notice it, to her disappointment. Then, when she pauses in her judgment of Fern to ask what she sees, and Fern blatantly calls out the fluctuation, she immediately wants Fern as her personal student, impressed by her ability to see it so easily. We can only assume the far older Serie is far more powerful than Frieren, but the difference is currently impossible to judge.

@devonjardine9603 Месяц назад

The fact that Fern could see it leads me to believe Frieren might be suppressing a greater quantity of her magic than Serie. Even then raw power doesn't always win the battle.

@misterplunderer9734 Месяц назад

@@devonjardine9603nahhh, that lot of mana is serie suppresing it.. and it's already equal to frieren when she battle aura Plus, serie is much older than frieren.. and much more experienced in terms of magic (even frieren admitted it) I feel like fern can already see the fluctuating from frieren and just cool w it cuz she already know frieren mana is alot but to see a person who has a lot of mana on him/her while supressing it is terrifying. Hence why she's in awe when she met serie

@devonjardine9603 Месяц назад

@@misterplunderer9734 yes. Because people don't lie. The entire premise is frieren has been downplaying herself for over a 1000 years. When Serie made the comment that she's disappointed in Frieren I got the feeling it was relating to how Frieren still hides to this day the depth of her power. Like Serie can see something. And since Serie believes in living to get fullest but suppresses herself for fun even whilst bad mouthing it as a useless skill tells me the only thing that would disappoint her more than anything else is even then she can't call frieren out on the double layer suppression because she's the only one that can see it. It's the same concept in that time I got reincarnated as a slime at the first walpurgis where rimiru noticed guy and luminous were hiding their ultimate skills by taking a slow leak of mana instead of directly suppressing it.

@misterplunderer9734 Месяц назад

@@devonjardine9603 for me, i think she's disappointed because frieren is not taking magic learning seriously, hence making her more "free" than serie. Making her the duality of frieren in terms of lifestyle (except the laziness). I don't think Frien has more magic power than serie but what makes her stronger is her takes on visualization of magic. Because of her freedom, frieren is more practical w magic whilst serie is more on the technical side... And i feel like serie already tried battling demon king but failed maybe because of her tryna solo the demon king but yk? Demon king is demon king and w demon prowess in magic, makes her lose to him but still alive to tell the tale.. maybe she's a hermit now because of trauma event w the demon king but yk, gotta wait til the author starts authoring the story to know.

@misterplunderer9734 Месяц назад

@@devonjardine9603 i put my theory like that is because of ubel cut technique and frieren's clone moves on fern. Plus flamme said that "frieren will be the one to beat demon king" cuz she knows, firepower can't beat the demon king but the visualisation of magic as a whole will.

@rexlevitak1 Месяц назад

Good god what is it with these comments ? Has viewing comprehension gone out of the window ! The clip couldn’t make it more clear that Serie is suppressing her mana and the two of the thee comments is “ Where does it say she is suppressing her mana “ and “I bet she is doing the opposite of suppressing her mana “ . Like seriously do shows need to literally come out with official statements?

@Kkkkkkkkkk747 Месяц назад

I also noticed how people are comparing Serie power level to Frieren and i'm like WTFff!! They can't understand that Serie was suppressing her own mana all this time and nobody other then Fren see thru that. Serie probably has 10 to 100x Frieren mana. She is a monster when it comes to mana.

@King_Jockey Месяц назад

shonen chuds

@lastraven7205 Месяц назад

can frieren see serie fluctuations

@Kkkkkkkkkk747 Месяц назад

@@lastraven7205 i've watched the anime and read the manga but i don't remember this being mentioned anywhere, so i think Frieren can't see Serie fluctuations. For example Serie mentioned how difficult is to see thru Frieren mana suppression, but the demon lord and few others managed to see right tru her. Imagine how special Fren must be if she is the only one able to see the fluctuations in Serie mana. Not surprising that she wanted her as a discipline right away.

@lastraven7205 Месяц назад

@@Kkkkkkkkkk747 Wouldn't that make Serie an even Bigger hypocrite? She's already said how Frieren* wasted her time practicing mana suppression and how useless it is but for Serie to also practice it to a level that even Freieren can't see see through it is crazy.

@pyskvo Месяц назад

People are arguing so much about Serie not suppressing her mana just because they want to believe that Frieren is the strongest 😭

@xlott3667 28 дней назад

Actually, Frieren is truly powerful. The barrier is not supposed to be destroyed; even Flamme can't destroy the barrier Serie made. In episode 21, Geno said, "The barrier can't be destroyed. It's impossible; there is no one greater than the great mage Serie." In the comics (spoiler alert): It will explain why and what the Holy Emblem is in Frieren and her speciality when it comes to magic.

@chrystanto 25 дней назад

@@xlott3667but i think Serie is more powerful as she live longer and a warmonger as Flemme said that warmongers like Flemme and Serie can't defeat demon king as they can't imagine live without war

@xlott3667 25 дней назад

@@chrystanto Frieren is much more powerful, though Serie possesses much more mana. Frieren has explored and understands how magic works. Frieren loves magic. In the anime, it is said that "magic is a world of imagination." Frieren's imagination and ideas in magic give her the ability to comprehend any magic that exists in their world. An example of this is Serie's barrier; she analyzed it and created a magic that can destroy it. This is why Serie emphasizes that she can't retire due to situations like these, where magic can cause even heaven and earth to turn upside down.

@rampazzo_franco 22 дня назад

El re pelotudo que no vio el anime ni leyo el manga, claramente es mas fuerte, lo dice la misma Serie

@chanceplace6057 20 дней назад

@@xlott3667 In the manga Frieren outright states that she couldn't imagine herself ever being able to beat Serie

@nerdgamer1587 Месяц назад

Serie have more mana but this is not everything in this world. Frieren can lose to someone who has less mana , and serie too. Because the most important thing in magic is the imagination , that changes ways of fighting and facing the world. The best example is the ubel’s cutting magic . because of this frieren is the magician who defeated demon king and not serie , her imagination can reach beyond war . Im writing this to talk about how frieren’s world is balanced and the humans have the greatest potential due to the large number of ways they live.

@kiyo211 Месяц назад

serie could've kill the demon king if she wanted that's not an argument so serie > frieren

@Phantasmagorique Месяц назад

Serie is also called the Living Grimoire as she knows virtually every existing spell. She didn't kill the Demon King because she loves to fight, and didn't want to bring an era of peace. As it is, she is the strongest being in the world of Frieren.

@misterplunderer9734 Месяц назад

@@kiyo211nah, she can't and I'm ready to argue 🥴

@princekievargas220 Месяц назад

@@misterplunderer9734Serie didn't want to kill the demon king lmao. Because it create peace = lesser strong mage lmao. Serie suppressed mana beat Macht at no-low difficulty and Macht beats Frieren Full Power at high difficulty. Frieren couldn't beat Macht that's why she needs a group just to able beat Macht. You heavily underestimated Serie and you just fangirling to Frieren.

@frosttree1873 Месяц назад

@@princekievargas220 no need to bring out the heavy spoilers just do light spoilers of chapter 126 in which Frieren says directly she can't imagine winning against Serie. Frieren's words not mine :D

@AloneSolace Месяц назад

How are people confused about this😭 They already show us Mana size in the anime anyways. Frieren’s released mana had the same size as Serie’s suppressed mana. Comprehension is a rare skill

@sadahiko9623 Месяц назад

I'm shocked that a lot of people didn't caught this. The first time I saw this scene I was like holy shit! Serie is mad OP.

@JackThor Месяц назад

So many trolls saying that she is not suppressing her mana.

@charanko8351 Месяц назад

Some of the comments here is a good example of "You can't fix stupid".

@ninnusridhar Месяц назад

For anyone who doesnt get the implication, fluctuations= supression. Serie implies she too has fluctuations. So simply do the math. Its also important when viewing this to remember that serie is like a dozen times older than frieren who is basically an elven 20 something. So its inevitable that her magic should be monstrous compared to frieren

@Squall598 Месяц назад

Absolutely this! Serie has a lot more mana than Frieren. She also heavily implies that Frieren could know a lot more about magic than she does but got too caught up with killing demons. The biggest implication though is that the demon king was on a level similar to Serie or even stronger but was still defeated by the hero party!

@lilli7040 Месяц назад

@Squall598 no it's not killing demons that holds frieren back. It's how frieren views magic as something to search and have fun with rather than constantlu training and refining like serie.

@JojoJoget Месяц назад

Well Serie didn’t stop the Demon King, she’s a coward

@princekievargas220 Месяц назад

@@JojoJogetshe did not want to kill the DK because it create peace = no strong mage = serie boredom. Serie beat Macht at suppressed state while Frieren could never imagined beating Macht alone in 1 v 1. Frieren needs a group just to beat Macht.

@nckncknck Месяц назад

@@princekievargas220i agree, she could definitely beat Macht but was stopped by her subordinates because they are worried about her.

@darkm9347 Месяц назад

It has been stated that mana and age go hand in hand. The longer you life the more mana you will likely have. (If you train it that is) To humans, Flamme comes from ancient times. But to Frieren, Flamme was a teacher. Serie is the ancient one to Frieren.

@EneruM 17 дней назад

Remember Serie was already a "living grimoire" back when Frieren was little...

@aspiringanimator28 18 дней назад

some people seem to forget that serie's suppression of mana is so flawless that not even macht with an acute sensitivity for mana wasn't able to detect her mana at all until she was right behind him. A feat not even frieren was able to accomplish.

@Sybersense5000 10 дней назад

Which makes the latest manga arc even more puzzling

@prestow Месяц назад

Serie is 10 times older than Frieren, and has her mana trained to be also 10 times more.

@AnGryPOETry Месяц назад

I dont even know what this anime is about, or why its shown up on my news feed 3 times now- i just now that Ms.Frieren is supressing her mana🤔

@deviousmile669 13 дней назад

Powerful elf sorcerer : "i have sooooo much mana" That one psyco girl:"you got nice hairs..." Same powerful sorcerer:chuckles"i am in danger"

@ittehitteh9322 26 дней назад

💯 serie is even better at mana suppression than frieren as even her own best student cant see her fluctuation but he can see frieren's fluctuation.

@yogaa1784 26 дней назад

Mana does play an important factor to a mage's power, but it's not everything. The mages said that the battle between them is like rock-paper-scissor, only more complex than that. Frieren herself said she lost to a number of mages that had less mana than her before.

@razergarcia6323 7 дней назад

Im just baffled how, in this universe, they have 2 beings who can literally see the future but still they arent the strongest. Im curious how they were both killed/defeated (or were they?)

@gabrielhovington-ub2ig Месяц назад

Yes killua

@reguluscorneas3387 14 дней назад

HOW DID I NOT FREAKING REALIZE THIS UNTIL NOW??😭😭😭

@eveningsky851 Месяц назад

This makes me wonder. Does the male Elf also suppress his mana or aura? Cuz he seems to be someone whose a hero or part of a hero party before Frierens era.

@johnlee5383 Месяц назад

He's a warrior not a mage

@MasterPandaBearChannel 29 дней назад

Serie could never beat the Demon King cos she will straight up go to demon king and fight all demons unlike Himmel Party who clears then out before

@Jonas-Seiler 14 дней назад

Which fucking genius decided to have her be barefoot the entire time and show it off too

@CCCW 8 дней назад

We also don't know that Frieren really showed all her mana. Why shouldn't she just show how much is needed?

@Atmatan_Kabbaher Месяц назад

Maybe don't put annotations covering 40% of your entire video, champ

@osusumesenpai Месяц назад

Copy Champ. Will definitely do that.

@st3pn56 28 дней назад

bro serie literally knows every spell there is. why is this even an argument? obvs she's more powerful

@pindy6109 28 дней назад

I like the idea that Serie is capable not only of mana suppression, but the opposite. A fake sense of power that immobilizes any human mage she’d ever come across.

@shimayamagoto8959 12 дней назад

Is it possible that her mana fluctuates because she is making it seem like more than what it is? Or do we think it is pretty set that she has a ton of it?

@etendudeaufraiche146 18 часов назад

She is older than frieren, mana grow has the mage become older = she has more mana than frieren.

@ChilledBacon 26 дней назад

some comments here are goofy asf. Serie probably wouldnt be able to beat frieren in a fight despite having TONS more mana because how how the power syste, works in Frieren. Serie is a living grimoir, her entire being is meant to hold the knowledge of the world while Frieren was literally raised as a demon killer. They a have differing roles, and to say one is stronger than the other (while factually correct) undermines what their entire existence is used for in the story. its like comparing a body builder with Usain Bolt. Usain bolt doesnt lift as much as the body builder but wins in a track race.

@ittehitteh9322 26 дней назад

🤡 rewatch the anime again. serie is a war mage. a combat oriented mage. she will wipe frieren without even trying

@etendudeaufraiche146 18 часов назад

Read the manga before giving your opinion.

@ittehitteh9322 10 часов назад

frieren struggles to injure her own mimic while serie's apprentice can casually make frieren bleed. the difference in their strength is night and day.

@ChilledBacon 9 часов назад

@@etendudeaufraiche146 im anime only, i from my understanding thats how it was meant to be portrayed as. if im wrong mb gang

@aloisvana1487 Месяц назад

How exactly do we know that fluctuations always equal supression? Yeah, several characters mention they didn't see fluctuations when discussing Frieren, but as far as I know, nobody ever said supression is the only thing that can make one's mana fluctuate. For all we know, Serie could have a minor case of magic flu.

@ren7a8ero Месяц назад

Besides this scene, Aura said before that she didn’t noticed instabilities that come with suppression. Serie is really a piece. She says she can’t understand Frieren for such control, when herself is even better. What is she cooking?!

@JojoJoget Месяц назад

Because they tell you

@TheRanguna Месяц назад

You don't really know how much mana Frieren really has But it does make sense that Serie has more mana than her, Frieren doesn't really train her magic a lot

@princekievargas220 Месяц назад

Serie suppressed mana beat Macht at no-low difficulty and Macht beats Frieren Full Power at high difficulty. Frieren couldn't beat Macht that's why she needs a group just to able beat Macht.

@TheRanguna Месяц назад

@@princekievargas220 thanks for the spoiler bro, you can go dig a whole and put yourself there now. There were less stupid ways of telling me I was wrong 🤦‍♂️

@princekievargas220 Месяц назад

@@TheRanguna 😆😆 your welcome 🤗

@Daniel-lp9vi Месяц назад

@@TheRanguna its not too spoil, frieren mentions macht is one of the 11 times she's lost in the past, and Serie didn't even kill macht at all. just read the manga

@TheRanguna Месяц назад

@@Daniel-lp9viwhat you said makes no sense, do you know what "spoiling" means?

@indrawahyudin5568 Месяц назад

honestly that oldman saying serie mana surpresed equal to frieren, but frieren never showing that oldman unsurpresed mana. detecting frieren fluctuating mana doesn't mean he can see frieren full release mana. so i don't think this mean frieren ful releasse = serie surpressed.

@connerdassen7808 Месяц назад

Well comparing Series to when Frieren released hers in front of Aurora they seem about equal

@davido2161 Месяц назад

This is what I was thinking. I'm confused how everyone is saying Serie suppressed = Frieren released. It's not really clear how the old man would know what Frieren's mana was to even make that comparison. Infact he even mentioned that he noticed she was suppressing her man's which implies he had only observed her mana while suppressed. I don't doubt Serie is stronger, but I'm not sure how people are coming to their conclusions.

@MrAlathiel 5 дней назад

@@davido2161 serie suppressed = frieren released is based on the visual representation of their mana at different points in the story. when frieren fought aura, she released her full mana. the size of frieren's mana at that point matches up pretty well with the size of serie's mana in her suppressed state. and the size of mana is equal to the amount of mana. so that is where it comes from. whether that is true is another thing

@Kuromate15 Месяц назад

A bigger amount of mana doesn't means that Serie is stronger, ppl just don't pay attention to some parts of the anime bro

@kiyo211 Месяц назад

in addition to her superior amount of mana serie is also way better mage than frieren, there's no aspect in which frieren is superior wym

@moon_bandage Месяц назад

@@kiyo211she's titled the living grimoire, is thousands of years older than frieren, and has been fully strength oriented unlike frieren. Anyone that thinks imagination can make a dent in Serie is coping. Its not the point of the show to begin with, if anything its the complete opposite

@princekievargas220 Месяц назад

Serie suppressed mana beat Macht at no-low difficulty and Macht beats Frieren Full Power at high difficulty. You heavily underestimated Serie and you just fangirl to Frieren. Frieren couldn't beat Macht that's why she needs a group just to able beat Macht.

@captainb.mccrea5480 28 дней назад

Are you dumb? I think you’re the one not paying attention to the series.. Serie suppressed mana is equal to Frieren’s full power mana, along with the fact that Serie has FAR more experience and is supposed to know every single spell in existence. Please explain how “More power, experience and knowledge” doesn’t result in Serie obviously being far stronger?? Reading comprehension these days is so BAD just READ THE DAMN SERIES

@leightonkekuewa1545 Месяц назад

Where’s it say Serie is compressing her mana?

@jofujino Месяц назад

"That boy never saw the fluctuations in my mana either." Remember, the fluctuations in one's mana is a symptom of suppressing ones mana. Frieren has trained for so long in it it's extremely hard to see any fluctuations. It's implied here that the fluctuations in Serie's mana is even harder to see than the fluctuations in Frieren's mana since there is 1 first class mage who can see Frieren's fluctuations but who can't see Serie's (and the other first class mage's can't even see Frieren's fluctuations). Anyway, we also get confirmation that Serie really does have fluctuations in her mana later from Fern. So what she's putting off here (which looked comparable to Frieren's unsealed mana in the Aura fight) is with mana suppression turned on.

@ittehitteh9322 26 дней назад

@@jofujino i swear to god people the number of normies that cant comprehend subtle hints 🤣

@exanoid1 Месяц назад

Frieren spends hundred to perfect suppression. But Serie thinks that is stupid and one should just focus on raw power. I think she is not good as frieren in suppressing her power so her mana level being still big is because of that.

@princekievargas220 Месяц назад

Serie discipline can see Frieren suppressed mana lmao... While He can't see Serie suppressed mana. Only Fern can see through Serie suppressed mana. It much be hard because her mana is larger than Frieren.

@JooceGooce 14 дней назад

@@princekievargas220 but he literally said it was happenstance that he saw through Frieren’s suppression? Also its easier to see fluctuations in a flame compared to a raging fire so he may not noticed Serie’s instability. Just because he didnt notice doesnt mean Serie is better at suppression

@princekievargas220 14 дней назад

@@JooceGooce Keep in mind that, Serie suppressed mana are equal to Frieren Full Power. Serie always living at the same amount of Full Power Frieren at the daily basis. You can't say that Serie isn't better than Frieren at suppression. Frieren just able to suppressed a small amount of her mana if you we're compare it on Serie. It just Serie has overwhelming mana and it's state that (Serie has the greatest mana reserve has ever seen) 10 to 100x Full Power Frieren = Serie unsuppressed mana. Sure.... Serie might unstable her mana quite a bit but Frieren will never suppressed a mana who's equal to her full pool mana...

@Erich161 Месяц назад

serie does not compress her mana...the strategy of compressing mana are from Flamme. Serie's mana is unstable, most likely due to her emotion state

@blshouse Месяц назад

Serie castigates Lernen for not noticing that she is compressing her mana. Then when Fern spots the instability due to compression, Serie immediately asks Fern to be her apprentice.

@currentlyaliveanddead6733 Месяц назад

Who do you think would have taught Flamme about mana compression?

@vylon1075 Месяц назад

Wrong. We never knew how much of Serie's mana was suppressed. Also, Frieren's mana was suppressed to 10% a thousand years ago. So it is possible that Serie only suppressed a smaller fraction of her mana. Also, Frieren's mana suppression improved compared to a thousand years ago and possibly could suppress her mana to less than 10%. Lernen's estimate was just his opinion so nothing is certain as of this moment. Also, Serie's strength does not come from her vast mana but her plethora of spells. Unlike Frieren, Serie has no use for mana suppression and practice could be attributed to her adoring Flamme.

@princekievargas220 Месяц назад

Stop the cap... Serie beat Macht on suppressed state while Frieren need group to beat Macht. Frieren never imagined beating Macht alone in 1 vs 1. Serie in other hand easily beat Macht no difficulty.

@TsuChan_ Месяц назад

@@princekievargas220 OP never said frieren was stronger stop being a buthurt fanboy and read again what he said is clearly true. Also stop spoilers.

@princekievargas220 Месяц назад

@@TsuChan_ He's wrong though, Serie strength obviously come from her vast mana pool. She knew almost all spell and it needs large pool of mana to spam spells and actives many spells at the same time. Serie is warmonger and she's better than Frieren. He said Serie isn't like Frieren. He said (Serie has no use for mana suppression) which it isn't true. Heiter and Lernen able to see Frieren suppressed mana but Lernen couldn't see Serie suppressed mana. Serie already using suppressed mana state and it literally show when Flamme as a girl. Serie easily kill Flamme at that time if Serie unleashed her power. Serie need to suppressed her mana all the time interacting with humans, walking around with weakling people could potentially kill them instantly if they felt Serie Power.

@vylon1075 26 дней назад

@@princekievargas220I ain't wrong. Mana pool comes with age so it is natural for Serie to have vast mana reserve. Serie no diff Macht for sure but because she knows how to rid of his advantage. Cut the crap. Nowhere in the story it says Serie has been suppressing her before Flamme, though it is a possibility. You just say crap shit like it is canon. You never have the shame to say that it's just your interpretation. This is the problem when idiots like to act smart.

@vylon1075 26 дней назад

@@princekievargas220Nowhere in the manga it says that vast mana could kill bystanders. Where the fuck did you get your info? Inside your ass? Lol butthurt fangirl. Get a job or get lost.

@Poa2024 Месяц назад

stop making assumptions.

@KS-sy9cc Месяц назад

Its not assumptions, do you read the manga ?

@LorenLordSoth Месяц назад

I bet that Serie is doing the exact opposite compared to Frieren. While Frieren suppress her mana, I beieve that Serie keeps her mana expanded to it's limit, that's why Fern wasn't fazed when she saw it.

@randyrandom3358 Месяц назад

Didn't it exactly show that Serie had tried to suppress her mana?? Literally at the end of the vid and when Fern saw it herself and passed as a 1st rate magician. So unless I'm missing something here, it's either that Serie is unimaginably stronger than Frieren or that she just has bad mana suppression

@divinitylain7790 Месяц назад

Nah fam, Serie's actually suppressing her mana it just her mana pool was godly that she could only suppress it 0:36 at that level. Frieren's did have a large mana pool but you cant compare her with Serie's, the problem isn't who has the greater mana but who controlled it better....in this case Frieren's were better since Flamme taught her and she has been doing it for a millenia (cmiiw), Serie though didnt really "liked" the idea of suppressing mana but hey this is our tsundere-grandma waifu.

@9es3266 Месяц назад

@@divinitylain7790if serie is not as good as frieren at hiding her mana, her student would have been able to see it long ago. Thats why serie as dissapointed that her timid student compared her mana to frieren without ever seeing the fluctuations. I like the idea she’s doing the opposite of frieren, may be she’s over expressing here mana than it actually is!

@dilzyone8035 Месяц назад

@@divinitylain7790you forgot that serie is flamme's master. serie definitely has better mana control than both frieren & flamme.

@divinitylain7790 Месяц назад

@@dilzyone8035 no man i didnt forgot, you see Serie didnt really "liked" the idea of controlling and suppressing mana (tsundere elf grandma did it anyway). In their world power scaling by comparing and ask who is the better mage/character was not the main factor, yes they are strong but they have a weakness and yet they still strong. Yes, Serie could suppressed her mana but it fluctuated and Fern was able to noticed, being "better" at it is different matter since she's not really put the effort to it. That is what i thought, really love this discussion and bring so many prespective about the characters