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John Samson preaches on 2 Corinthians 10:3-6.
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@ApologiaStudios
@ApologiaStudios 2 года назад
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@kpope7007
@kpope7007 2 года назад
Thank you. Have been struggling with forgiving a family member. I am reminded that they are not the enemy but there is a power behind them. By God’s grace, my heart wants to show them kindness. Truly a miracle. Praise God.
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
Do you have to be baptized to be saved?
@abledhomedefender
@abledhomedefender 11 месяцев назад
I love to hear this man preach! The war against the word of God in my life and my family's life is at the forefront of the battle in my household. Pray for me brothers and sisters that I might, as the husband and father be given the grace of God to lavish his amazing word on my loved ones.
@Cali-Bruh
@Cali-Bruh 2 года назад
Thank you for the NO COMPROMISE message, the Word of God. God Bless you as you continue to be obedient to God's calling. I'm very convinced, asking for prayer, that God would lead me, provide wisdom what to do and discernment to recognize God's leading. Blessings, Craig
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
Do you have to be baptized to be saved?
@glorycapture3066
@glorycapture3066 2 года назад
Amen! What a sermon!
@5olas
@5olas 2 года назад
Apologia Church is blessed with great pastors, and in turn, so are we. 🕊
@happyami102619
@happyami102619 2 года назад
God has given us the Armour of God, put it on daily! Eph:6
@robertcoupe6514
@robertcoupe6514 2 года назад
Ephesians 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: A helmet protects the head where all the thinking his text speaks of (2 Corinthians 10:3-6) takes place. I liken taking the helmet of salvation to attaching the READ ONLY attribute to a file that contains proof of your salvation. It protects once saved always saved. I am forever praising and believing Jesus is the Christ, and this is pleasing to God.
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
Do you have to be baptized to be saved?
@josephkusabs46
@josephkusabs46 2 года назад
I believe this is the first time I’ve heard John preach. This was such a great reminder, thank you and to God be the glory and nations!
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
Do you have to be baptized to be saved?
@josephkusabs46
@josephkusabs46 2 года назад
Well, John said King Jesus would baptise us with the Holy Spirit (Luke 3:16)@@Benjamin-un1wl. Our Lord Jesus Christ said we must be born again of water and the Spirit (John 3:5). You would have to clarify for me, is this baptism you refer to from man, or Heaven (Mark 11:30)? I will say this much, the thief who came to Jesus in repentance while on the cross is in paradise with the King who died and heals, today. May the Lord of all grace bless you with the understanding in your question mate.
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
@@josephkusabs46 I'm talking about being baptized with water.
@josephkusabs46
@josephkusabs46 2 года назад
Was the thief baptised with water before he died alongside Jesus@@Benjamin-un1wl?
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
@@josephkusabs46 The thief on the cross was saved before the gospel existed. The thief on the cross didn't have to obey the gospel to be saved because it didn't exist. The thief on the cross didn't have to be baptized to be saved because he didn't have to obey the gospel to be saved.
@robmc120
@robmc120 2 года назад
Such bold truth from that man, great preaching! God bless Apologia!
@connectlan7177
@connectlan7177 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing God's Word today!
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
Do you have to be baptized to be saved?
@happyami102619
@happyami102619 2 года назад
Awesome word of God, thank you.
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
Do you have to be baptized to be saved?
@OGDreamer
@OGDreamer 2 года назад
So good✝️
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
Do you have to be baptized to be saved?
@patrickwilder9980
@patrickwilder9980 2 года назад
Thank you brother. Enjoyed the preaching!
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
Do you have to be baptized to be saved?
@robertcoupe6514
@robertcoupe6514 2 года назад
NOTE to Dr. White re: Mystics of India Video. We know which way is UP. Job 5:7 Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly up-ward. I am forever praising and believing Jesus is the Christ, and this is pleasing to God.
@robertcoupe6514
@robertcoupe6514 2 года назад
Ephesians 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: A helmet protects the head where all the thinking his text speaks of (2 Corinthians 10:3-6) takes place. I liken taking the helmet of salvation to attaching the READ ONLY attribute to a file that contains proof of your salvation. It protects once saved always saved. I am forever praising and believing Jesus is the Christ, and this is pleasing to God.
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
Do you have to be baptized to be saved?
@alexanderbrown2717
@alexanderbrown2717 2 года назад
@@Benjamin-un1wl ♥️ 1 Corinthians 1 KJV 17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 1 Corinthians 15 KJV 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Romans 3 KJV 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; ♥️know♥️ 1 John 5 KJV 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
@@alexanderbrown2717 “Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you” (1 Peter 3:21). Does 1 Peter 3:21 prove you have to be baptized to be saved?
@alexanderbrown2717
@alexanderbrown2717 2 года назад
@@Benjamin-un1wl Peter led the first Gentiles to Jesus Christ. If you noticed they believe first And got the Holy Ghost thenPeter baptize them afterwards. Acts 10 KJV 44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days. 1 one more Example♥️ Just believe sir Christ died on the cross and shed all his blood for you. Yes YOU♥️ Acts 16 KJV 28 But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here. 29 Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, 30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. What must I do to be saved? Believe sir ♥️
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
@@alexanderbrown2717 You didn’t answer my question.
@Garfinkel64
@Garfinkel64 2 года назад
Wow! What a sermon.
@Kamilatron
@Kamilatron 2 года назад
This was great! Thank you!
@jillianmathews3749
@jillianmathews3749 2 года назад
Pray for a sound doctrine church many are apostate today.
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
Do you have to be baptized to be saved?
@jillianmathews3749
@jillianmathews3749 2 года назад
@@Benjamin-un1wl no
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
@@jillianmathews3749 "Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you" (1 Peter 3:21). Does 1 Peter 3:21 prove we have to be baptized to be saved?
@jillianmathews3749
@jillianmathews3749 2 года назад
@@Benjamin-un1wl no
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
@@jillianmathews3749 How does 1 Peter 3:21 not prove you have to be baptized to be saved?
@irvingfr33
@irvingfr33 2 года назад
Amen
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
Do you have to be baptized to be saved?
@irvingfr33
@irvingfr33 2 года назад
@@Benjamin-un1wl no
@bjellier
@bjellier 2 года назад
@@Benjamin-un1wl no
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
@@irvingfr33 “Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you” (1 Peter 3:21). Does 1 Peter 3:21 prove you have to be baptized to be saved?
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
@@bjellier “Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you” (1 Peter 3:21). Does 1 Peter 3:21 prove you have to be baptized to be saved?
@xxcrazypiratexx
@xxcrazypiratexx 2 года назад
Love you Brother John! Where can I hear more of your sermons? Love the 10 what abouts!!!
@KingsChurchTV
@KingsChurchTV 2 года назад
Hey thanks for the encouraging words. Praise the Lord! You can find more at ru-vid.com
@xxcrazypiratexx
@xxcrazypiratexx 2 года назад
@@KingsChurchTV Yes! Thank you my Brothers! May the Lord continue to bless Kings Church and Apologia Church. Love you all and I cannot wait to be by all of your sides worshiping our God together for all eternity!
@alexanderbrown2717
@alexanderbrown2717 2 года назад
2 Corinthians 4 KJV 3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. Romans 2 KJV 16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. 1 Corinthians 15 KJV 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Romans 3 KJV 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; Galatians 1 KJV 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
@limyebondyenanchris1390
@limyebondyenanchris1390 2 года назад
Act 7:37-38 say that Jesus Christ was the one that was With the angel that spoke to Moses on Mount Sinai my question to you what was it about Jesus that was with the angel who spoke to Moses on Mount Sinai. But remember it was God that spoke to Moses by the Angel in Mount Sinai. It do not say that the prophet was the angel but was with the angel
@limyebondyenanchris1390
@limyebondyenanchris1390 2 года назад
I am a oneness believer I believe there is one God who is the prophet Moses spoke about Hi is the messiah in who all the fullness of God dwell in Bodily form Jesus Christ
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
Do you have to be baptized to be saved?
@Irvinjustin1
@Irvinjustin1 2 года назад
So I have a question. Long story short I overdosed and died and was lifted into the clouds, and in the clouds I was met by Jesus. And mind you this is very brief of what was a long story ok. At one point Jesus could tell I absolutely loved where I was and he asked me do I like the way I feel in these clouds? My response was of course I do. Jesus then asked me if I could imagine what it would be like if he allowed me to enter into his fathers kingdom? And this is where my question comes in to Christian belief. If GOD the father and Jesus the son and the Holy Spirit are all three the same, then why even after death of Jesus death and resurrection and thousands of years later I meet Jesus in the clouds would he not have said my kingdom? Or why did he purposely say my father’s kingdom, Purposely separating Him from the father. He was giving glory to GOD and credit to God and not himself. Now of course I wasn’t truly all the way dead because then I would have got to go to heaven, but since I wasn’t I was met in the clouds witch makes since. But from first hand experience Jesus never made to me any claim to be GOD or on the same level of GOD.
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
Do you have to be baptized to be saved?
@robmc120
@robmc120 2 года назад
Respectfully, subjective experience with what you perceive as Jesus does not trump objective truth of God's revealed word. Demons seem to have been deceiving you, "satan himself masquerades as an angel of light" (2 Corinthians 11:14) or "if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!" (Galatians 1:8). If you're understanding of Jesus isn't aligning with Gods transcendent Word, dismiss it, it isn't His objective, infallible truth. God bless!
@bjellier
@bjellier 2 года назад
Just a few questions come to mind. First, when Paul had his vision of heaven, what he saw was so incredible, that he was unable to utter a word about his experience. Seems if Paul, who actually met Jesus, couldn't speak about his experience, seems that's a good indication of what heaven is like. Secondly, heaven tourism seems to be a thing these days, as people claiming to gave been there are a dime a dozen, yet many of the experiences are directly contrary to what scripture teaches about heaven.
@Irvinjustin1
@Irvinjustin1 2 года назад
@@robmc120 it’s was an honest question. I wasn’t disputing the word on telling what I encountered with Jesus. Again it’s was a question, and I guess that since you think I was tricked by a demon doesn’t make my experience false nor can you say with certainty that wasn’t Jesus! I understand most people have not had the chance to experience what it’s like other than reading the Bible and faith. But none the less it was a question about the three heads, not about people saying it was a demon that I seen. Jesus never said anything negative nor claimed to be anything other than himself. I have no doubt who I was standing in front of and have been a Christian my entire life. My question was not trying to convince others of my experience. I also practice what I preach as well. Nothing I said disputed the word of the Holly Bible it was just a question I had. And you automatically say I was perceived by the devil or demons. Do you also say these things to others that claim to have an after life experience that they also have been deceived? Again nothing was spoken to me that was outside of scripture it was just a question I had! Really not the answer I was hoping for but it’s typical from another Christian.
@Irvinjustin1
@Irvinjustin1 2 года назад
I asked my mother today after I asked the question and she was kind enough to review scripture of the three heads and gave me a better understanding. I guess I was hoping you guys could help me with the answer other than accusing me of being tricked by a demon in the clouds. Thanks for the support from a fellow Christian!
@epicofgilgamesh9964
@epicofgilgamesh9964 2 года назад
"When we say…Jesus Christ…was produced without sexual union, and was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended to heaven, ***we propound nothing new or different*** *from what you believe regarding those whom you call Sons of God. [In fact]…if anybody objects that [Jesus] was crucified, this is in* ***common*** *with the sons of Zeus (as you call them) who suffered, as previously listed [he listed Dionysus, Hercules, and Asclepius].* Since their fatal sufferings are all narrated as not similar but different, so his unique passion should not seem to be any worse." *Note how Justin (Martyr) is less of a fool than modern Christian apologists. He admits that differences don’t matter.* Since each and every one of the suffering and dying gods are slain by different means, one cannot argue the mytheme requires exactly the same means of death. “But Osiris can’t have inspired the Jesus myth because Osiris wasn’t nailed to a cross” is a stupid argument. The mytheme is simply death. Being killed. Suffering and dying. The exact mode of death can vary freely. It makes no difference to the existence and influence of the mytheme. It’s simply the particular instantiation of a generic abstraction. *And Justin’s argument (that Satan invented these fake religions to confuse people) entails Justin agreed the mytheme existed: indeed, it was demonically promulgated, multiple times. Intentionally.* *Likewise, Justin notices the mytheme is not virgin birth, but sexless conception. Of which many examples had already been popularized in pagan mythology (there just happens to also have been examples of actual virgin born gods as well). And by his argument (that the Devil was deliberately emulating the Jesus mytheme, in advance), Justin clearly accepted the same principle for “rising again” after death:* the particular exact metaphysics of the resurrection could, like the exact method of death or conception, vary freely. The mytheme consists solely of the abstraction: returning to life. Somehow. Some way. We will say bodily, at the very least. But what sort of body (the same one, a new one, a mortal one, an immortal one), didn’t matter. *If it had, Justin would have made the argument that “those gods” weren’t really resurrected. But that argument, never occurs to him. Nor did it to any other apologist of the first three centuries.* *Ancient Christians well knew there was nothing new about their dying-and-rising god. Not in respect to the mytheme.* Their claims were solely that his particular instantiation of it was better, and the only one that actually happened. *They didn’t make up the stupid modern arguments that dying-and-rising god myths didn’t exist or weren’t part of a common mytheme everyone knew about. For example, in the same century, Tertullian, in Prescription against Heretics 40, makes exactly the same argument as Justin. Funny that. They had better access to the evidence than we do. They knew what was really and widely the case. We should listen to them.* Google *"Dying-and-Rising Gods: It's Pagan, Guys. Get Over It. • Richard Carrier"* ------------------------------------------------------------------ In addition, look up the below articles. *"Ehrman Errs: Yes, Bart, There Were Dying & Rising Gods - atheologica"* Watch *"Dying & Rising Gods: A Response to William Lane Craig"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica. *"The First Easters: Death and Resurrection Before Christ | atheologica"* *"The Christs Before Christ: Tammuz-Adonis | atheologica"* Watch *"Asclepius: The Pre-Christian Healer & Savior"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica *"Virgin Birth: It's Pagan, Guys. Get Over It. • Richard Carrier"* *"5 Pagan Parallels to Jesus That Actually Aren’t Bullshit - Atheomedy"* *"Christian Apologetics: The Art of Deceit - Atheomedy"* *"Isaiah 53 & the Suffering Servant | atheologica"* *"Defending the Resurrection: It’s Easy if You Lie! - Atheomedy"* *"Rising Gods, Pagan Parallels, and Cultural Context: A Response to M. David Litwa | atheologica"* *"An Evidence Attested Resurrection? - chromosome two"* *"The Empty Tomb: A Rhetorical Dead End - atheologica"* *"Theological Dodgeball: On the Posturing of Faith over Reason | atheologica"* *"Majority of Scholars agree: The Gospels were not written by Eyewitnesses - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"* A good site written by an actual Biblical scholar. *"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei"* *"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history? -- by Dr Steven DiMattei"* Also: *"How Did The Gospel Writers Know? - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Yes, the Four Gospels Were Originally Anonymous: Part 1 - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Are Stories in the Bible Influenced by Popular Greco-Roman Literature? - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Gospels Not Written By Matthew, Mark, Luke or John - The Church Of Truth"*
@Benjamin-un1wl
@Benjamin-un1wl 2 года назад
Do you have to be baptized to be saved?
@robmc120
@robmc120 2 года назад
J Warner Wallace (Cold Case Christianity) has investigated & debunked all these supposed links with mythic gods, look up his channel for details. May God show Himself to you in spirit & truth, God bless!
@epicofgilgamesh9964
@epicofgilgamesh9964 2 года назад
@@robmc120 😂 J Warner Wallace? Good joke. Try actually reading all of the articles. Truth has nothing to fear from inquiry, right? A little tip. Don't get your information from lying apologists. I'm not trying to be rude but stick to critical scholarship. *Jesus falsely prophesied his return in the 1st century* Truly I tell you, ***some who are standing here will not taste death*** before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom Matthew 16:28 Truly I tell you, ***some who are standing here*** will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God Luke 9:27 Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Mark 13:30 The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken. Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Matthew 24:29-34 There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near. When you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near. Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Luke 21:25-32 *Jesus promised to return over 2, 000 years ago and he still hasn’t.* Jesus and the angels never appeared from Heaven, the stars never fell from the sky, none of these things happened. Nothing he prophesied happened. ***Apologists can try to spin this, but the simple fact is that Jesus was either wrong or misquoted.*** According to the Bible that makes Jesus a false prophet or misquoted (and if Jesus is misquoted than the Bible is not inerrant or the word of God) How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord? If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken Deuteronomy 18:21-22 *Jesus falsely prophesied to the high priest and the Sanhedrin* Jesus also falsely prophesied to the high priest and the Sanhedrin (assemblies of either twenty-three or seventy-one rabbis appointed to sit as a tribunal) You will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and ***coming on the clouds of heaven*** Matthew 26:64 Mark 14:62 Except the high priest and the Sanhedrin never saw Jesus sitting at the right hand side of God, or coming on the clouds of heaven, or any such thing. *Jesus falsely prophesied to Nathaniel* Jesus also falsely prophesied to Nathanael when he declared, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel.” Jesus said, You believe because I told you I saw you under the fig tree. You will see greater things than that. He then added, ***“Very truly I tell you, you will see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man*** John 1:50-51 *Nathanael never saw any such thing. Neither did anyone else.* The following quote from Stephen L. Harris, Professor Emeritus of Humanities and Religious Studies at California State University- Sacramento, completes this point with a devastating argument. *Jesus did not accomplish what Israel’s prophets said the Messiah was commissioned to do:* He did not deliver the covenant people from their Gentile enemies, reassemble those scattered in the Diaspora, restore the Davidic kingdom, or establish universal peace (cf.Isa. 9:6-7; 11:7-12:16, etc.). Instead of freeing Jews from oppressors and thereby fulfilling God’s ancient promises-for land, nationhood, kingship, and blessing- *Jesus died a “shameful” death, defeated by the very political powers the Messiah was prophesied to overcome.* Indeed, the Hebrew prophets did not foresee that Israel’s savior would be executed as a common criminal by Gentiles, *making Jesus’ crucifixion a “stumbling block” to scripturally literate Jews.* (1 Cor.1:23) Watch *Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet, Historical Lecture - Bart D. Ehrman* ------------------------------------------------------------------ Also, look up the following. *"13x Jesus was wrong in the Bible - Life Lessons"* *"End Times - Evil Bible .com"* *"The End of All Things is At Hand - The Church Of Truth"* *"Resurrection - Fact or Myth - Omission Report"* *"What’s Missing from Codex Sinaiticus, the Oldest New Testament? - Biblical Archaeology Society"* *"The “Strange” Ending of the Gospel of Mark and Why It Makes All the Difference - Biblical Archaeology Society"* *"ex-apologist: On One of the Main Reasons Why I Think Christianity is False (Reposted)"* *"Why Jesus? Nontract (August 1999) - Freedom From Religion Foundation"* *"272: JESUS’S 5200 AUTHENTIC WORDS - zingcreed"* *"43: IS THE FOURTH GOSPEL FICTION? - zingcreed"* *"Jesus Predicted a First Century Return Which Did Not Occur - by Alex Beyman - Medium"* *"Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return - Black Nonbelievers, Inc."*
@epicofgilgamesh9964
@epicofgilgamesh9964 2 года назад
@@robmc120 *"It needs to be emphasized that this line of reasoning isn't controversial among mainstream, middle-of-the-road NT critics.* I'm not talking about a view held by the Jesus Seminar, or earlier "radical" form and redaction critics like Norman Perrin. *Rather, I'm talking about the kinds of considerations that are largely accepted by moderates who are also committed Christians, such as Dale Allison and John P. Meier. Indeed, conservative scholars of the likes of none other than Ben Witherington and N.T. Wright largely admit this line of reasoning.* Why are they still Christians, you ask? I'll tell you: by giving unnatural, ad hoc explanations of the data. For example, *Meier gets around the problem by arguing that the false prediction passages are inauthentic (i.e., Jesus never said those things; the early church just put those words on the lips of Jesus, and they ended up in the gospels);* *Witherington gets around the problem by saying that what Jesus really meant was that the imminent arrival of the eschatological kingdom might be at hand(!); Wright gets around the problem by adopting the partial preterist line that the imminent end that Jesus predicted really did occur -- it's just that it was all fulfilled with the destruction of Jerusalem (Oh, really? So are we also to think that since he's already come again, he's not coming back? Or perhaps there will be a third coming?* But even putting these worries aside: why does Paul tell various communities very far *outside* of Israel about the same sorts of predictions of an imminent end that would affect *them* -- one that, like the one Jesus talked about, involved judgement, destruction, and the gathering of all the elect? And again, what about the author of Revelation's detailing the end-time judgment, which includes the Roman Empire *outside* of Israel, during the reign of Nero?). *Are you convinced by these responses? Me neither. And now you know why nobody outside of orthodox circles buys them, either."* *"ex-apologist: On One of the Main Reasons Why I Think Christianity is False (Reposted)"*
@irvingfr33
@irvingfr33 11 месяцев назад
Where are those “religions” now? Looks like they rusted away 🤔 I wonder why
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