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@rrg0731
@rrg0731 3 года назад
No amount of rhetoric can subvert the Law of God. The woke ones will reap what they sow. Our pleading for them to wake up from woke is founded in actual love and a knowing that they are aiming for bondage. My fear is they may live their entire lives unaware of the bondage they put themselves in. Constantly looking outward and never coming to grips with their own depravity. Confronting my sin is how I find peace. Lord, may they as well.
@JRRodriguez-nu7po
@JRRodriguez-nu7po 3 года назад
I prefer confronting the sins of others than my own sins. Otherwise I agree. Somebody laugh at the honesty of my statement please, or weep, either will do.
@laurenkuo5320
@laurenkuo5320 3 года назад
We live overseas in the beautiful country of Malaysia. Malaysia is a multi-ethnic nation Malaysian, tribal Malaysian, Chinese, and Indian as well as foreign workers from everywhere. Malaysia is also an Islamic state that requires all Malaysian citizens to be Muslims. All other ethnic groups have religious freedom but are forbidden by law to proselytize to Muslims. So here's my question: If CRT is a necessary part of the Gospel, then like the Biblical gospel, it should be universally applied to every culture. If I were to bring this theory to Malaysia, I would get blank stares and most likely would get kicked out of the country. This social justice thing is an American phenomenon that cannot be carried over into the church in other countries as easily as the pure Gospel. It's a cultural social phenomenon confined to America because its roots are political not spiritual. The Gospel is for the Kingdom of God and not the earthly kingdom; CRT is directed toward one specific earthly kingdom. So it is not a gospel issue and should not have any place in the church. The Gospel is for all nations; CRT is directed to one nation and even then it is a bad faulty theory that cannot match up to the way things actually are in a fallen world. The cure for the Christian who is caught up in this nonsense is to read Ecclesiastes to get a reality check and then to read 1 John and soak themselves in the love of God to find their true identity in Christ.
@JRRodriguez-nu7po
@JRRodriguez-nu7po 3 года назад
As you note, America is not Malaysia. Of the persecuted Church at Smyrna all Christ did is complement on remaining faithful. Of the externally rich lukewarm Church of Laodicea, He would have no part of. In America, and most Western Europe, Laodicea is ascendant.
@patriciagrant6687
@patriciagrant6687 3 года назад
God bless you Jon!!
@sheliemartin6690
@sheliemartin6690 3 года назад
I love this format. I love to hear your lectures.HISTORY
@adaynasmile
@adaynasmile 3 года назад
You can't be racist against white people, or at least that is what I have been told. So not all racism gets you cancelled because hating whites is usually praised. Thank you for all of these talks. It's very helpful to have these and to have someone call out truth in a society full of lies.
@JRRodriguez-nu7po
@JRRodriguez-nu7po 3 года назад
Can you be sexist against men? Do you support programs that promote women exclusively?
@ewxlt
@ewxlt 3 года назад
37:30 is when the John Perkins talk happens. Thanks Mr Harris!
@beaulin5628
@beaulin5628 3 года назад
Thank you for these excellent explanations, Jon ! This is much needed information for believers.
@1776.We.the.people.
@1776.We.the.people. 3 года назад
Most excellent
@ewxlt
@ewxlt 3 года назад
Have you discussed the book "One Blood" by John Perkins on your channel yet?
@pasoleati07
@pasoleati07 3 года назад
Jon, I was trying to see if it is possible to get a signed copy through the website you have provided, and it seems I cannot get it shipped to Canada. Is that correct? After putting in my Canadian address, it says "shipping options not available". I suppose I don't really need to get a signed copy, but it would be kind of nice. Either way, I learn a lot from your tireless posts on RU-vid. Thanks very much! -Randy in Edmonton, Canada
@GodlessGubment
@GodlessGubment 3 года назад
There is no communion table unity.
@bob2871
@bob2871 3 года назад
Jon, who is JR, "THE BRAIN".
@JRRodriguez-nu7po
@JRRodriguez-nu7po 3 года назад
There's an old cartoon, Pinky and The Brain. Jon was going on about white people and as I have said many times, there are no white people. Even albinos are pink. So I call Jon Harris, Pinky. Since I am a legend in my own mind, and enjoy poking fun at my arrogance (a horrible sin I war against); bingo! Pinky and The Brain. I am The Brain. The self appointed master of Jon "Pinky" Harris who tolerates me on his blogs. Over at his friend's AD Roble's, who goes on about being Puerto Rican; I identify as a member of the Master Race: Cuban born. There's a long rivalry between Cuba and "los portorros". In other words, I am both a troll and someone who makes serious points. But mostly I am a self deprecating fool who wants people to laugh, even if it be at me. There's enough grief. As an internal med doc of nearly 40 years; I have seen enough grief. Given we're not going to the hell we so deserve, but to the Unshakable Kingdom to be honored with the imputed righteousness of Christ; I think there's reason to laugh. For Christ's sake, an I mean for His sake indeed, we need a few laughs in 2020 until, like 2020 it is hindsight.
@JRRodriguez-nu7po
@JRRodriguez-nu7po 3 года назад
Excellent presentation with a common blindspot. Reformed hermeneutics leads to the social Gospel by importing a human modification of the Mosaic code into the Gospel. Jon quoted Galatians 2 but then continues to use the Mosaic code "principles" to bind the Christian. Like other Reformed, he then cuts up God's Laws into man created categories (moral, civil and ceremonial). All the Reformed make this error, they ignore Galatians 2 and put patches of new skin on the old, dead and buried, Mosaic code. All Reformed add to the Gospel as the Pharisees added to the Mosaic code human reasoning. Thus they open the door to using the old testament to promote social justice for others. Familiarize yourself with New Covenant theology, similar in some ways to Mcarthur's "leaky dispensationalism". ALL the previous covenants are fulfilled at the cross. NONE of them are law to Christian's today. We ARE under law, that of Christ as explained in the Newest Testament. Yes, some older laws have been renewed, even made stronger. However others have been explicitly repealed such as holding ANY day more sacred than any other. In fact, if you read Genesis you will find that incest was required and promoted even through the time of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Yes, incest was required before Moses. Then under Moses, incest was forbidden but polygamy including marriage to your brother's wife was REQUIRED. Now it is not, rather forbidden. God CHANGES Laws as He sees fit. It is NOT our place to break up His laws into man made categories of civil, moral and ceremonial and then extract "principles" to import. This is the same error of the Pharisees who substituted the tradition of men for the word of God. Stop idolizing Calvin who is a great man, but had errors as we all do. Semper Reformanda means the willingness to reject the Reformers where they erred based on Scripture. Pinky, please get out of YOUR echo chamber and learn to think for 3. Thus writes The Brain to my dear sidekick Jon "Pinky" Harris.
@JRRodriguez-nu7po
@JRRodriguez-nu7po 3 года назад
JR, that was well written until you called yourself "The Brain". Such hubris will not go unpunished, even if it is a joke.
@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast
@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast 3 года назад
Jesus saved us from the penalty of the law, He did not release us from the obligation to keep His law. We show we love him by keeping His commandments.
@haphilm
@haphilm 3 года назад
@@JRRodriguez-nu7po did you just reply to yourself? lol
@JRRodriguez-nu7po
@JRRodriguez-nu7po 3 года назад
@@IAmisMaster Mark 7 as the law of stoning rebellious youths? No, it was the breaking of a tradition nowhere commanded in Scripture regarding eating with unwashed hands that was in view. Please provide an explanation of where in Mk 7 this has anything to do with rebellious youths. Now I ask again: 1- where in Scripture does it say that one can partition the law into 3 parts? Does not Christ repeatedly say that despite some commandments being more improtant than others, that ALL must be obeyed? 2- Where are the footnotes in the Mosaic code whereby one may decide to what category a particular commandment lies? If none then it is the agency of men thousands of years later that on theri own create and categorize these partitions despite Christ saying that the law cannot be broken up into pieces while defending His Divinity from Psalm 112. 3- If you go ahead and by the traditions of men like Calvin, to break up the law and then select which commandment goes into what category; in what category is incest? If it is not a moral law, then it should not be wrong today. If it is a moral law then ALL the sons of Adam broke it by God's design and continued doing so through the time of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Galatians 2 was quoted as liberating not only from the law of Moses, but also from the previous covenant with Abram regarding circumcision. Then it was ignored. It is this pick and choose from the OT that opens the door to pick and choose which parts of the OT to stress. You cannot eat shellfish and follow Moses. If you do both, then YOU have set yourself as the arbiter of what to accept as law and what not. Now, is Calvin, Jon, you a heretic? NO! Calvin is a great man, far greater than I, worthy of great respect and all the reformers did yeoman's work in recovering the Gospel from millennia of men's traditions that had all but extinguished it. I agree and admire the work Jon "Pinky" Harris does as a whole. I have no animosity towards you either. However, where you're wrong, I say so also. As to Jesus, YES, He upheld the authority of the laws in Scripture that I deny, correct, guilty as charged. Christ did not come to abolish the law and so, I am NOT Andy Stanley. In fact, I far prefer the company of those who uphold the full inspiration of the Older Testaments than those like Andy Stanley or Keller who deny much of them (such as Genesis 1, and the genocidal YHWH). The same God who commanded the entire genocide of the Amalekites is the same God that died on that cross and offers me Mercy undeserved. Do not think there's only two camps here. Do not commit the fallacy of the excluded middle. So why do I deny the authority of the Mosaic code, including the 10 commandments which I now treat as the 10 suggestions, while my Lord kept every single point? Because He fulfilled the law, and went beyond it to willingly die an excruciating, death for me, He nailed ALL previous covenants/laws to the cross and buried them forever. He did not come to abolish the Law, as Andy Stanley would, but to fulfill it. Thus all previous commandments were retired with honor and now serve as old schoolmasters who taught rudimentary types and shadows which no longer binds me; but which still point to Christ and deserve the honor of having taught, as it were, basic arithmetic. The Newest Testament is to the Older Testaments as vector analys is to basic arithmetic. The first words of the professor of that class were "In this class we are going to learn how 1+1 is not always 2". Shall you ignore your GPS which does not use Newtonian Physics but rather Hilbert/Einstein/Poincare/Minkowsky relativity? Shall I unlearn my differential equations and Lagrange transforms because they do not give the same answers as basic arithmetic? I might as well, as I have not done any higher math in 40 years, so I already have forgotten. I am not among those who deny Scripture. I am thoroughly convinced by Science that the Earth is less than 10K years old. I accept the "vengeful" God of the OT as exactly the same god of, wait for it, Revelations. For those who see a different God in the NT, is there not more blood and gore in the last book of the NEW than in all of the old? It IS the same God. The same God that decides what is the Law, and having fulfilled it by His blood, now imposes a new law. I am not without law, I am under the Law of Christ as explained by the Apostles in the NT. MUCH of the OT carries over into the new, but much is directly repealed. Thus with vector analysis and basic arithmetic. This is why Paul draws the analogy to an old schoolmaster. He was not only a top level Rabbi, star pupil of Gamaliel, but also well versed in Greek philosophy. He was taught things as a child that he had surpassed. He had old schoolmasters that he could now easily run rings around; but he honored them. I am a brilliant man and full of hubris. At least I see my horrible face in the mirror, and weep over my sinful state. I will not lie and pretend to be humble. I fully understand Paul calling himself the worst of sinners, Very brilliant men who by the Holy Spirit are allowed to see their heart hate who they are, as I hate who I am naturally (thought I am also now someone brand new and Glorious by His resurrection of my being). I am not your enemy, and I do not besmirch you. I seek to correct your error, even with harsh words. All I ask is to get out of your echochamber and look at Scripture again. Go listen to New Covenant Theology and search the Scriptures to see if true. If you do not agree, and remain classically reformed, then peace to you and be convinced in your own conscience. Thus writes The Brain.
@JRRodriguez-nu7po
@JRRodriguez-nu7po 3 года назад
@@IAmisMaster You're missing the timeline. Christ was under all of the Old Covenants, both Abrahamic (circumcision) and Mosaic. At that TIME, all of the Mosaic Law was in full force. He thus lived under and taught that not even the LEAST of the commandments could be set aside. Thus Christ did not eat "unclean food" like lizards prior to the resurrection, and all His disciples prior to the resurrection did not either. However, AFTER the ascension, Peter was commanded to eat precisely that. The cross changed everything brother. Just as once incest was required sons of Adam) and then preferred (time of the patriarchs), then it became abomination. Just as polygamy was detested during Genesis, as it was not so in the beginning reminds Jesus, it became required as Levirate marriages under Moses for "your hardness of hearts". Laws DO change brother, but when they do God makes it clear by an enormous outpouring of miracles, as under Noah, Abraham, Moses and Christ that an NEW Covenant is here. The current Covenant completely fulfilled ALL previous Covenants because the sacrifice by which ALL previous debts were paid was the Son Himself. This is clear in the writings of Paul and early on resisted by both Peter and James; though they both eventually agreed with Paul. That was then and this is now. However, I am NOT Andy Stanley who views the OT God as different, as if Revelations was any less bloody than the OT. I am NOT Tim Keller who promotes theistic evolution and the redefinition of words like poor (the poor today die of obesity and drug abuse, how is that "poor" by Biblical standards?). I am NOT even a classical dispensationalist who sees a permanent division between Jew and Gentile; contra Romans 10:12. For near 40 years, initially on my own, I have been something like a "leaky dispensationalist" (John McArthur) and having recently found New Covenant Theology; more like that. Excepting I am an agnobaptist and a few other trifles. I am pleading with my Reformed brothers, and you ARE my brothers, to Semper Reformanda. To be willing to climb on the shoulders of giants like Beza and Calvin to see further than they did. To examine the Scriptures anew, carefully, and certainly WITHOUT Lyell/Darwin/Marxist/Fabian inspired lenses which are COMPLETELY antithetical to Scripture and fully doctrines of demons. If still you will not agree with me then let there be peace, for you ARE my faithful brothers. Y'all and especially Pinky should listen to me, because I am, The Brain. Learn also to laugh. Christ has not abandoned us nor the throne. He may like me more than you, but He loves us all. Please laugh. I'm doing my best to play the fool troll for you.
@longstreet2740
@longstreet2740 3 года назад
38:00 CRU ( formerly Campus Crusade ..Bill Bright ) had a very weak emphasis in its early days THE FOUR SPIRITUAL LAWS An example of this is the Four Spiritual Laws written by Bill Bright, founder of Campus Crusade for Christ. These “four laws” are supposed to present the gospel. Law number one is “God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life.” While it is true that God loves the sinner and Christ died to make it possible for him to be saved, it is not true that God has a wonderful plan for every lost sinner. His plan for lost sinners who reject Jesus Christ is to put them into eternal Hell. That is not very wonderful! Why did the apostle Paul not start with a Campus Crusade-type approach when presenting the gospel in the book of Romans? Why did he not approach the people at Athens in such a manner (Acts 17)? Instead he first explained God’s holiness and judgment to come and commanded them to repent of their idolatry and sin. Bill Bright admitted that he wrestled with his conscience when he changed the approach to a positive one, and even one of his own daughters at that time told him she felt he was on the wrong track. When Bright first wrote his gospel pamphlet in 1958, it began with man’s sin and separation from God. But when the pamphlet was revised a few of years later, in the early 1960s, he changed this so it would be more positive. In his book Come Help Change the World, he relates this account: Originally our first law emphasized man’s sin, but the Lord impressed me to emphasize God’s love. This change was made just before we went to press. I had done my final editing and had left Vonette and the girls to finish the typing. As I had been traveling a great deal and it was quite late, I had gone upstairs to bed. In fact, I was in bed just at the point of going to sleep, when suddenly there came clear as a bell to my conscious mind the fact that there was something wrong about starting the Four Laws on the negative note of man’s sinfulness. ... I felt that few people would say ‘No’ to Christ if they truly understood how much He loves them and how great is His concern for them. So I got out of bed, went to the head of the stairs and called down to Vonette and the girls to revise the presentation so that the first law would be, ‘God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life,’ instead of ‘You are a sinner and separated from God.’ ... Thus the Four Spiritual Laws started with the positive note of God’s love and plan. Some time later, one of the girls said to me, ‘I was so distressed over your change in the presentation that I wept that night. I was afraid that you were beginning to dilute the gospel and that you were no longer faithful to the Lord, because you placed such a strong emphasis on the love of God rather than on man’s sin. Now in retrospect, I realize of course that this is one of the greatest things that has ever happened to the Campus Crusade ministry’ (Bill Bright, Come Help Change the World, Here’s Life Publishers, 1985, pp. 28,29). We believe Bill Bright’s staff worker was right when she wept and feared that he had diluted the gospel. He adapted the gospel to the philosophy of the world. He removed much of the reproach of the cross. He created an evangelistic tool that can be used successfully by the entire world of apostate ecumenism. His type of gospel presentation is used by modernistic World Council of Churches-affiliated denominations. It is so generic that it is used even by Roman Catholics. We are convinced that the voice that spoke “clear as a bell” to Bill Bright about changing the approach of the gospel was not the Lord’s. Three decades later this positive, psychological, man-centered approach has swept through most Christian circles. It is the approach used, for the most part, by the New Evangelicals, by the Charismatics, by the Ecumenists, even by most Fundamentalists. While biblical Fundamentalists eschew Campus Crusade’s worldly, New Evangelical approach to Christianity, all too often the soul winning plan used in Fundamentalist circles is very similar to the Four Spiritual Laws. We don’t mean to belittle the fact that God loves sinners and we don’t mean to say it is wrong to tell the unsaved of that love. God does love sinners, and that is what the gospel is all about. We praise Him for it. But when approaching the unsaved, the apostles emphasized God’s holiness and His just demands upon a sinful world. They emphasized man’s lost condition and the necessity of repentance. This is the right way to approach the unsaved. It is not very positive and does not fit in with the popular philosophy of the hour, and might not result in as many “decisions,” but it is Bible; it is the pattern that God has given us. The Bible does not start with God’s love. It starts with God’s holy character and with man’s fall. In fact, the entire first two thirds of the Bible deals with this before it gets to the New Testament presentation of Christ. Who would deny that the Old Testament is largely negative? And why is this? Are we to ignore the fact that God lays a foundation of law for the presentation of the gospel? Evangelists and revivalists of old certainly followed the Bible’s pattern in this. The apostles certainly did. Who are we to change this? Why the negative approach? Why not just focus on God’s love and on Heaven and let sin take care of itself? The reason is that unsaved man does not understand nor appreciate the love of God until he understands the holiness and justice of God. When Paul preached the gospel in the book of Romans, he did not even mention the love of God until chapter 5. He began with God’s claims on man, with the law, with man’s wretched condition. God uses the law to create in man the understanding he needs of God and sin in order to get saved. The law is the schoolmaster to bring sinners to Christ (Gal. 3:24). Many years ago, as a young missionary newly arrived in the country of Nepal, I was invited to preach at an underground evangelistic meeting (gospel preaching was illegal in Nepal at that time) arranged by the national branch of Campus Crusade for Christ. (Though we were independent missionaries and did not work with Campus Crusade, they invited me to speak at that particular meeting, and in my ignorance and naivete I accepted the invitation.) Standing before a group of idolatrous Hindus and Buddhists, I used Romans as my text and went point by point through the gospel just as Paul preached it. (1) God is holy and righteous and hates sin. (2) All men have sinned and are therefore and under God’s righteous judgment. (3) God has provided for man’s salvation through the atonement of His Son the Lord Jesus Christ. (4) This redemption is received as a free gift by faith in the finished work of Christ and by calling upon Him for salvation. The leader of Campus Crusade for Christ in Nepal took me aside after the meeting and told me that my preaching was “too negative.” He instructed me to be positive in my approach and not to make the hearers feel depressed. I rejected his counsel, because the Holy Spirit’s presentation of the gospel in the Bible is different from that of Campus Crusade. I reject every presentation of the gospel that is positive in its approach and that ignores or slights over God’s law and holiness and sin and repentance. from www.wayoflife.org/database/unscripturalpresentations.html
@mustacheglasses5765
@mustacheglasses5765 3 года назад
It's not hugely important but it's driving me crazy that this guy is saying "hi-archy" instead of hierarchy. "High-er-archy" is the way you need to say it. There are two 'r's and a vowel between them.
@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast
@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast 3 года назад
It's the peculiarities of my accent :/
@JRRodriguez-nu7po
@JRRodriguez-nu7po 3 года назад
Because English is a train wreck between Scandinavian, French and endemic Welsh. This is why you have Germanic origin chicken and French origin poultry. It is impossible to hold a spelling contest in my native Spanish. Words are written exactly as pronounced with only a few imported words as exemptions. That does not make Spanish uniformly superior mind you, except in the area of romance and more so cursing. I have known people from the middle east who speak, from childhood, 6 to 8 languages with facility (just as Christ and the Apostles all probably did as the lived in Galilee of the Gentiles, full of Greek colonies). They tell me that hands down Spanish is the best cursing language they know.
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