I’ve done a lot of shooting off of tripods and backpacks and I always find myself shooting off a bag even prone. As a recommendation if you have a tripod and a backpack but not something to throw your bag across, use the backpack as a rear bag and essentially hug the backpack sitting upright with the rifle in the tripod. The bag you have in the video is about the right hight and would work prefect as a rear support and minimizes gear that you carry. Just little tricks I’ve learned over the years.
When I got the jist of what your video was going to be about I guessed the backpack was going to be better, at least it would be for me. A one piece rest (other than prone obviously) is what I would be most stable with
Already subbed a while ago. TLDR: yes, every shot would have brought down the game. Even a deer with an 8 inch pie plate zone would be in the freezer. I have the Trigger Stick Primo tripod. And love it to death. I have carried the Y shaped saddle but now I have a Precision clamp on it. For an actual shot, I would loosen the clamp for free recoil. I hunt on public land with the tripod and the butt against my shoulder. I can't really use it at the indoor 100 yard range I have been to. So, I approximate it with bipods and the butt against my shoulder. With my 7 PRC, I am getting a .64 inch spread for 3 shots. That's my hunting group. However, you are right. The more scenarios you practice, the better. My problem is I don't have access to property like you do and I hunt on public land. So, in the meantime, with some range time, I also dry fire around the house all the time. I have taken down many an oven knob.
I just got back from the range. I was clocking factory 7PRC ammo in 2 of my rifles just to see how they did. Also testing Superformance in a 270 Win with the 136 grain Federal TLR (nickel coated?) bullets. I'm at 3200fps with those and grouped an inch with 5 shots in a factory Tikka T3x stainless. Then shot some factory Hornady ELDX ammo out of a Tikka 708 just to get some brass. Never loaded for 708 but will use my 308 Bushing die and put a smaller bushing in it and swap out the seating stem to 7mm. Not ready to buy a set of dies yet. I'm glad you're posting these videos and your honesty and humble disposition is respectable. I can shoot to just over 600 yards on my dads farm in Alabama. Going there for 6 days first week of May and taking a bunch of rifles and loads to do exactly what you're doing. I mostly shoot at game prone with a bipod but need to practice other positions as well. I had to pass on a nice mule deer in CO one year because I could get him in the scope while prone but couldn't get steady enough with the tripod. Since then I also use shooting stix in the rear.
Try the tripod but hug your backpack to your chest to use as a rear bag for the rifle. The stick in the rear reminds me of using a monopod, seems like a great idea but its just too rigid. I cant explain what goes on but really rigid rear supprt seems to mess up groups for me. Bags,even if very firm, seem be much more forgiving than a monopod.
Your comments following what you are experiencing are exactly why I have all of my triggers with a very light pull. At any tie we can have the crosshairs moving some especially when not prone. Thus, I want my trigger to break the moment I begin pressure for this very reason. Has made a HUGE difference. 1 pound is ideal for me but now I'm leaning towards going lighter.
Good stuff! The tripod and stick arrangment reminds me of the fieldpod. I have one of those and have not spent much time shooting over it. I guess it's time to knock the dust off and give it a go. Thanks for the info!
I have a Deathgrip tripod that feels really stable, but when I use it I hold the clamp with my left hand. I've tried different things and it seems more stable than having my left hand on top of the scope. Everyone's different, but that's been my discovery through my practice.
Great video. I liked the way that you approach this as I am LOOKING for a better way to do it. You never learn anything new doing the "way we have always dun it" I am packing my gear to head to the range and try what you just did. Thanks.
I wonder if you shot 2 groups with both techniques would the results be the same ? I often find that when learning familiarity with a new position or rifle it will take me a couple of groups to find consistency. By the time you shot 3 rounds off the pack you had already shot 3 rounds off the tripod. If you had shot in the reverse order or shot a second round of groups would the results be the same ? Interesting all the same. Personally I have shot deer out to 430y off my tripod with a davros head successfully it certainly is an art. There's a video of it I my channel I'll see if I can reply with a link. Keep up the vids 👌
The better group with backpack is do to a free movement of the gun. The tripod restricts the rifle free movement. Now I won’t be buying a tripod. I was gonna purchase one this year .
I haven't shot with my tripod yet but soon! Still have to put my arca plate on. Going to try some different things. I've been wondering how much difference hanging some weight underneath might make. A lot of tripods are set up for it. Thought in the field it could even be rock, sand, or dirt in a bag if you have time before the shot.
Really enjoying these videos, thank you, I mostly shoot (foxes and deer) standing off ViperFlex sticks due to how our terrain and ground cover is but all within 250m, it's amazing how steady you can get off those, especially if you can get your back against something like a tree, I tried a tripod and clamp but really missed the rear support of the viperflex . Looking forwards to the next episode 💯
Keep up the great content! How about trying a sitting position with your back against a tree with your elbows on your thighs for support and using shooting sticks for your front rest?
Tripods….. 🤔 a rifles recoil tendency’s from sand bags, lead sled, bipod and your bottle, off a back pack then into a tripod I’m just not sure I’d even expect the same accuracy and POI. I think one should choose a device and zero with it and know the limitations. Here it seems we learned you possibly hit high left from Tri. I’ve seen sling studs affect accuracy on benchrest setups, so a rifle clamped in a tripod???
A folding chair and adjusting your tripod so that your elbow is comfortably resting on the arm of the chair is very stable😂. Do you think having the rifle clamped in a saddle on the tripod affects your trajectory any? The folding chair and tripod works great in a ground blind.
Every time I watch 1 of your videos it reminds me of my furthest shot on an elk... I want to I would never do it again but because I was hunting by myself and pretty sure there was a bit of buck fever it was done. Anyways good video's keep up the good work
Keep it up finding it very interesting and there will always be negative Nellie's. I agree get as close as you can and I have never heard you say otherwise.
Good shooting of the tripod and of course the backpack. I use the longer bipod on my rifle and a hiking stick as a rear support. I lean it over my shoulder and grip it against the butt stock for stability. It works, not as good as prone but circumstances do dictate that. Sorry I missed this video when it came out I was out whacking stuff with my 300 prc. I really like these videos you are providing. It helps, and there are some good suggestions from other shooters that are helpful.
@@elevationrifles your store doesn't allow for shipping internationally, but yeah I think shipping for small quantities would be prohibitive sadly. What a great idea
Can you try to clamp the forend of the rifle instead of the middle of the stock? I promise you there is a lot less whip and you have better mechanical advantage and you will see better vertical groups as well.
Love the content. Just want to point out some things I saw. One, your base needs to be more solid. On some of the shots you were settled down nicely onto your bottom sitting on your feet, on others, you has one knee sort of up. You can have several mid-level options depending on what the terrain needs. Sitting down on your butt, sitting on your feet, or a straight kneel with body upright. Secondly, as mentioned, try shooting with a tripod but using your backpack, hugged, as the rear rest. Third, you have to get a new, proper tripod, without the center post. Fourth, your tripod leg orientation can matter. If possible, I like to have two legs directly toward the rear. All would be kill shots, on any medium sized game! Please keep the content coming. Good stuff!
Betting you have heard of body bags or pillows for support? Pretty popular with the precision rifle shooting competitors. We put them in our day packs. Might be something to consider when shooting from your tripod or off your bag in this series. You won’t hate me here! These targets are fine. Use the animal ones for the final episode of this series.
I have just enough energy to tote my pack with essentials & a gun . No tripod or ground mat or bypod. Just find a prop & get as steady as possible and shoot
The rifle is to high for shooting from your knees you need to get the butt of the lower so it's not pivoting of the toe of the butt and you should go to Armageddon gear and buy some bags to take with you in your pack just some friendly advice
I suggest you watch your video and listen to what you said when you’re hunting and come up on Game you need to set up as quickly as possible and break the shot. Shouldn’t you walk up to the shooting position and setup the tripod or backpack and time your self. Starting with the Rifle already on the tripod it choose you nothing . I think a better way with me for you to start with your rifle and tripod in your backpack and set up for the shot in time yourself. At least that’s how train shooting from field positions
Why would you get up on your knees? When you was talking you butt ess on your heels. So much more stsbel and a natural possion for you. Lower the bipod more. And if you are getting push off with recoil then it is the erong posidion.
