@@rabd3721 Yes and also remember her outtie's father mentioned that she is the exact reason Lumon went with the idea of these chips in the first place. He said when he brought the chip home she mentioned to him that everyone should have one. That makes Helly's outtie the actual main villain of the whole show and the source of their pain and punishment. Very interesting dynamic.
@@Friendsshareits sad cuz Helena might be the main villain but shes just as much a victim as the rest of them. Her father probably guilt trips her and manipulates her abt the chip idea, being all like “you were the one to convince me to use it” so now she thinks shes responsible for it and because she supported it into existence she needs to follow through with it even if shes starting to doubt it.
that's a stretch. as the other commenter has already said they were probably already going to use it the way they're going to use it regardless of what she said to her father but even if they hadn't, a flippant comment from her once cannot possibly make her the main villain....@@Friendsshare
what an astute observation! if only there was a scene that showed her being one of the highest authoritative figures in Lumon at the end of the season, guess we'll have to continue speculating..
Are you genuinely this stupid? The original comment wasn't speculating, it was pointing out the clues laid early on in the season hinting at the Helena reveal.@@faiznasruddin6596
Also it kind of plays with my mind a bit with me thinking the middle men like Milchick and ms.Cobel would deny the request for resignation in a sort of bueacratic way where they just hide the resignation request but no, they actually deliver it quickly to the outtie and a real swift reply comes back to them within a day. There is very little in terms of corruption on that specific front.
@@Friendssharewell, the reason why becomes apparent in the final episode. .... ... ... .. the reason they would make sure the outie got the request and then returned with the response quickly is because Helena is the daughter of the CEO so she gets special treatment anyway
The brilliance of this script is that even though Helly's outie seems so evil and out of touch with reality during this scene, the final episode recontextualizes it brilliantly to the point that it makes sense she would be acting this way.
SPOILER OUTIE HELLY(HELENA) IS SCARY AND EVIL. SHE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT ANYONE DOWN THERE AND HAS LITTLE REGARD FOR HER INNIE WHATSOEVER. CAN NOT WAIT TO SEE HELENA IN S2 SHE WILL BE THE MAIN VILLAIN
What? It gives additional context to show exactly how evil and out of touch she is, but it doesn't recontextualize or make her seem any less evil or out of touch.
@@radicalstanza3614they're talking about recontextualizing the scene that is being shown in the clip, it gives the clip a whole other meaning after knowing who she was at the end. now we understand the motive of why she is so cold instead of her just being someone who doesn't want to experience working, it's shown that her motives goes far beyond that.
@@faiznasruddin6596 obviously it provides additional information to the thing we didn't have much information about. That goes without saying. It gives actual context the way any scene elaborating on anything does. It doesn't recontextualize or change the meaning of the original scene.
That scene was the most chilling in the show to me. The whole time Helly had been sure if only she could communicate with her outie everything would be cleared up, and then... this.
I find it so intriguing that out of all the innies there, Helly is by far the most rebellious of them all, her leadership and persistence when she was one deemed that she won’t be a lamb and settle down to become some stranger’s (herself) working persona and let outie live a comfortable workless life. Helen doesn’t take anyone’s shit, but somehow expects helly do? That is next level arrogance, very narcissistic to the point that she will insult other side of herself😂
It probably has to do with her subconscious playing a huge factor in this. Since her outie is involved with the company and is the CEO’s daughter she knows there is a sinister agenda going on with the company. Even with her memories wiped out her intuition is telling her this is wrong!
Really looking forward to seeing more of Helly's outie next season. There's massive potential in a storyline where a rich and powerful woman is being undermined by "herself" trying to destroy her. The twist of revealing Helly's outie was genius and I know the writers will take it to interesting places
They are wearing the same clothes. Meaning outie Helly recorded this right before she went down the elevator for her work day. Kind of a small detail but adds to the scene.
@@user2008mar it's been a while since I watched. But I think she goes up the elevator after threatening to cut her fingers. Then comes back to work the next day, makes the recording, and goes down elevator. This is all pointing to the clothes she is wearing. What makes you think she recorded it the previous day she is watching this if she is wearing the same exact clothes.
More like if the last season of Orange is the New Black and The Office has a baby. There is a very real traumatic inducing prison vibe, considering they are now stuck in a room
I was convinced this was a deep fake because it was so absurdly evil. It was only later in the season that I realized this was real, once you realize exactly what kind of person Helena Egan is.
I'm 9 months late, but the best part to this for me is that even though you're cheering on the innie version of Helena the whole time, they make how she is in the real world make complete sense based on her character, even though it's such a stark contrast
I realise that the series basically also says that you should be kind to yourself but furthermore your past-self because you are as different in comparison to your past-self as an innie to his outtie.
If anyone is curious about what TV that is its a Sony Trinitron KX-1901a! Part of the Sony Profeel a line of prosumer TV sets from the 80s that was very very expensive at the time. They are super cool!
From what I understand, the outies do not realize just how useless they are to society. They believe they are in control and have given absurd amounts of trust to a company that will assuredly replace the outie with another innie that will be rented by the company to any number of other companies at their soonest convenience.
Hmmm I just noticed she said Ms. Cobel. Every innie and outie knows Milcheck, but they have not established that for Cobel. Mark's outie knows Cobel and Selvig. Curious.
The way Helena threatening Helly about regret make me wonder if Helena regret it when Helly later hung her up? Helena definitely feel it because the elevator was on ground floor before it getting back down.
Love the show, but the whole point of the experiment is to have a productive person working away doing awful tasks while the other side of you only experienced the great parts of life. I just don’t see how they could stop the condemned side of you from killing or harming themselves. This video certainly wouldn’t stop me. Nothing they could do to you would actually stop any of this. Locking you up in a padded room means you’re not working. Sedating you…same problem. Even torture eventually creates a shell of a human who can’t function or work. Ultimately it’s lose lose for the innie anyway. They pull the plug and turn the whole brain back over to the outside you, you’re dead. You kill yourself, you and the outie die. So what’s the difference?
Why don't they all just say fuck it and just lie around all day not doing any work? If they try punishing you in that room, just sit there and chill, don't repeat any words.
With deepfaking and elevenlabs voice cloning, it's going to be hard to believe scenes like this could be their legitimate selves even if that's in the script.
i bet it is the other way around!!! Helena is NOT a person. Helly is. they tried to suppress her personality to make her a better future head of the company.
Severance is the best thing that happened to the franchise since the beginning of the season when they were still on strike and they were still playing in their prime but they were not able to get the job done
I don’t know what you’re complaining about chunchunmaru. Being a housewife is a wonderful thing and not all of us are lucky enough to be given that chance at a job that literally only asks you to care for others. I chose this life. I will be fine. I live an abnormal life so others can have some semblance of normalcy. Not for fame or some stupid reason. If I could I wouldn’t even take off my mask unless I am at home. That’s how much I hate the position I am being put in right now. Fame is a fickle friend anyway. I wanted to just drive one person nuts for the rest of my life. Now I can’t. But you can. Don’t waste it.
