SF3: I made a tier list for the Super Arts 

In case anyone doesn't know which are which based on the number alone. Akuma SAI- Messatsu-Gouhadou SAII- Messatsu-Goushoryu SAIII- Messatsu-Gourasen Alex SAI- Hyper Bomb SAII- Boomerang Raid SAIII- Stun Gun Headbutt Chun-li SAI- Kikou-Shou SAII- Houyoku-Sen SAIII- Tensei-Ranka Dudley SAI- Rocket Uppercut SAII- Rolling Thunder SAIII- Corkscrew Blow Elena SAI- Spinning Beat SAII- Brave Dance SAIII- Healing Hugo SAI- Gigas Breaker SAII- Megaton Press SAIII- Hammer Frenzy Ibuki SAI- Kasumi-Suzaku SAII- Yoroi-Doushi SAIII- Yami-Shigure Ken SAI- Shoryu-Reppa SAII- Shinryu-Ken SAIII- Shippu-Jinrai-Kyaku Makoto SAI- Seichusen-Godanzuki SAII- Abare-Tosanami SAIII- Tanden-Renki Necro SAI- Magnetic Storm SAII- Slam Dance SAIII- Electric Snake Oro SAI- Kishin-Riki SAII- Yagyou-Dama SAIII- Tengu-Stone Q SAI- Critical Combo Attack SAII- Deadly Double Combination SAIII- Total Destruction :) Remy SAI- Light of Justice SAII- Supreme Rising Rage Flash SAIII- Blue Nocturne Ryu SAI- Shinkuu-Hadou-Ken SAII- Shin-Shoryu-Ken SAIII- Denjin-Hadou-Ken Sean SAI- Hadou-Burst SAII- Shoryu-Cannon SAIII- Hyper-Tornado Twelve SAI- X.N.D.L. SAII- X.F.L.A.T. SAIII- X.C.O.P.Y. Urien SAI- Tyrant Slaughter SAII- Temporal Thunder SAII- Aegis Reflector Yang SAI- Raishin-Mahhaken SAII- Tenshin-Senkyutai SAIII- Seiei-Enbu Yun SAI- You-Hou SAII- Sourai-Rengeki SAII Genei-Jin

Gee, I wonder where Blue Nocturne is going to sit.

(Announcer when someone chooses Remy on the CSS): Yeah, that makes sense. (Announcer when the same person chooses Blue Nocturne): Never mind.

Oh my fucking god, i'm only 7 seconds into the video and i'm already losing my damn shit laughing at the blue nocturne tier

Akuma SA3; you can red fireball meaty when it would chip kill, and then SA3 so they have to off screen parry the fireball

"Remy's supers are quite good." *eyes Blue Nocturne tier and waits for the fun*

You might've alluded to this, but Hugo can actually confirm super art 3 from 2 crouching jabs. I feel it's important to mention that he has a confirm move that's faster than 17 frames

Man, Alex is like the most cursed SF character ever. He's almost always bad, doesn't have a real command grab super, his best super isn't even good for the super itself, and most people probably don't even realize he's the main character in SF3.

Blue Nocturne is the ultimate disrespect. You’re telling your opponent that you don’t need your super, nor even your EX moves, to win.

The SS for the tier with Gill's super(s) stands for "stick smashing"

One additional thing that makes Akuma SA2 a bit more useful than 3 is its fast startup, meaning you can combo out of an early divekick and get the full super connect. There's footage of Jiro using it against low health characters both for this reason and to punish otherwise safe rekkas from Yang

Waiting for the characters you play is like sitting through graduation, waiting for your friends name to get called.

57:53 I play as Twelve more often these days, just for the sake of changing the pace and throwing opponents off. One of the most underutilized aspects of Twelve's SA1 is the invincibility it gives his upper body. If timed well, it will let you dodge and counter projectile Super Arts like Ryu's Shinkuu and Denjin Hadoukens, Akuma's standing Messatsu Gou Hadou, Sean's Hadou Burst, etc. It will also go through Urien's Aegis Reflector (!), Oro's Yagyou Dama, Chun-Li's Kikosho at certain distances, and beat out Necro's Electric Snake. It can also counter Remy's Light of Justice, but you need to be mid-range and trigger it before the second wave of projectiles come out. In short, it can be used as a counter Super Art in certain matchups. Anyone who jokes that XCOPY is his best Super hasn't spent enough time experimenting with SA1.

Yang's Seiei-Enbu is probably the super I feel the most bad about in the game. It's a super that's basically never picked; but not because the super itself is bad. It's actually really, really GOOD. It's just that Yang's EXes are too valuable to give up. So most people just use SA2 for lots of EXes. It's a shame, because SA3 really is very cool and fun on the rare occasion it's seen.

man one thing I wish they kept from 3S is like, different super stocks and super bar lengths

For what it’s worth, SA3 Alex can use it raw against a fireball and punish at long range. Only tested against Shotos myself.

I find it amusing that top tier Chun-Li has one SA in [S] and another in [D].

Yes yes yes yes yes, this is an amazing idea for a video, time to watch this at 1 am!!

An hour of Bafael talking about something very specific in SF3, what a treat.

Blue Nocturne sitting outside the tier list makes me wonder if theres a big-brain Japanese player that uses it somwhere in the world

Q's hand looks like sean got a sick haircut

I guess I'm one of those rare Elena Healing players. I just feel like if you are going to play a low tier, you might as well play them with the one thing they can do that no one else can; plus you can get similar damage from EX combos that you would from Brave Dance, so I feel like all I'm really losing going with Healing is I'm not getting as much meter for EX moves - which, granted, Elena needs for even basic combos.

iirc remy SA1 doesn't combo sometimes vs crouching opponents, thus making SA2 the preferred choice by strong remys (Dagger G, Pierrot, etc) EDIT: also SA1 isn't an actual reversal EDIT 2: you pointed out the first edit later in the vid lmaoo

I like it when tier lists start from the shittier stuff to the stronger stuff

kkz has an extra utility by being grab invincible which gives it the niche of beating all grabs and grab invincible moves which makes it more desirable than demon in like 4 situations

Seriously could listen to you for hours

Interesting tier list, I learned a good bit about the supers. Personally, I'd make some adjustments to most of the supers, so I thought I'd list them here. Alex SA1: more range, improve startup so that you can't jump out of it, change it to a short 3 bar super (lower the damage accordingly). Also, let him confirm it from any flash chop. Alex SA2: lower the pushback on block, give it some suction on hit so it won't fall out.. Alex SA3: give him invincibility on the way down. *Alex in general needs some changes. Mostly, he needs better confirms into meterless specials (why do EX Elbow and Knee have startup hits, but not meterless?)* Sean SA1: give it more hits (keep the weird anti-fireball properties, plus more parries/chip). Sean SA2: more range, give it a 3rd DP for more damage (keep the mashing for the last dp). Sean SA3: make it a medium 2 bar super, also let it combo properly from DP. *Sean did deserve a nerf from 2I, but not this badly. Make him a normal shoto with a unique moveset, instead of bootleg Ken.* Ibuki SA1: N/A Ibuki SA2: give it more ranges, maybe let it confirm from any heavy instead of just backturn. Ibuki SA3: make it 3 short bars, lower the damage a tad bit, and give it an EX version. *Ibuki's change from 2I to 3S is what Sean should have gotten. I think she's fine besides the supers (which also are good, but I'd still change them). As an aside, I also would not mind if her removed 2I super returned, albeit very balanced.* Necro SA1: make it 3 short bars Necro SA2: N/A Necro SA3: N/A *My man Necro is fun, and he's not terrible, but he definitely needs some love. It's funny that Necro, the prototype, is better than Twelve, the final product.* Urien SA1: make it a short 3 bar super, but don't change the damage Urien SA2: make it chargeable like Denjin (if you can't already). Urien SA3: no changes. *Urien is actually surprising well balanced considering how good he is. The only problem is he requires 1000 IQ to play, but I play Ryu in every game, so I'm fine with that.* Akuma SA1: no changes. Akuma SA2: lower the damage, but make it a 3 bar super. Also, it should be his best juggle super. Akuma SA3: more confirms, also give him a reason to use the air version. Akuma KKZ: N/A Akuma RD: no changes. *I think Akuma should have supers with different amounts of bars, but keep the total length the same. Also, give him EX moves (he doesn't need it, but it wouldn't hurt).* Gill: *besides not knowing enough, Gill would have to be rebalanced to even bother changing his supers, so I decided not to try.* Remy SA1: N/A Remy SA2: make it juggle properly, possibly change it to a short 3 bar super Remy SA3: no. Save it for a better character and give Remy a different super. *Remy in general has some good stuff, but a lot of the small things are just done terribly. He doesn't need changes to his specials (besides Cold Blue Kick), but he absolutely needs changes to his normals and system stuff.* Q SA1: no changes. Q SA2: no changes. Q SA3: N/A *Q, again, is like Remy: some of his stuff is nice, but it just feels like a mess. I hope Q and G are the same, because making Q more like G would be a godsend for Q.* Chun-Li SA1: make it 3 short bars Ike Necro). Chun-Li SA2: make it a long 1 bar super (the damage is fine since you can juggle out of it). Also, cut the range so it's not as scary. Chun-Li SA3: improve the anti-air function, give it a damage buff, let it confirm from low forward. *I actually think Chun is mostly fine. Her low forward confirm is nuts, and SA2 is too strong, but the rest of her kit actually seems alright by me. I'd actually keep the low forward confirm, since the changes to her super would mostly balance her. Also, give her a reason to use EX.* Makoto SA1: no changes. Makoto SA2: instead of different angles, just make it track the opponent. Keep everything else as is. Makoto SA3: let her block, but make it so she takes bonus damage when hit. *If Urien is 1000 IQ, Makoto is a 500 IQ character. She's only slightly weaker, but she's much easier to play compared to him. I think she's fine, although I would still adjust 1 or 2 things.* Twelve SA1: make it 3 bars, keep the damage the same. Twelve SA2: give it more damage, and make it easier to confirm. Keep it as a 1 bar super. Twelve SA3: just give him a different super-the idea is cool, but in practice it's worse than Remy's SA3 (the damage is nice, but why not just play that character?) *Twelve is functional only because he's not buggy. He's an airdasher in a non-airdash game, which makes him unique here, but if Sean hadn't been so good in 2I, I'd say Twelve makes Sean look good.* Ryu SA1: no changes. Ryu SA2: give the startup hit more range. Ryu SA3: I'd actually shorten the bar slightly, but not as short as a 3 bar super. *Ryu is, as usual, well balanced. If it were up to me, I'd give him Shinku Tatsu as a Super (and probably make Denjin the EX version of Shinku), but otherwise I'd only make minor changes to him.* Oro SA1: N/A Oro SA2: no changes. Oro SA3: no changes. *Baf, Oro is the other 1000 IQ character. I don't have 1000 IQ, I'm average at best, and I like you too much to risk discussing Oro (mostly because I could easily say something too dumb), so all I'm going to say is this: consider making him a motion character. I wouldn't immediately do it, and I wouldn't change his playstyle at all, but I'd consider making his inputs easier.* Dudley SA1: no changes. Dudley SA2: make it 2 bars. Dudley SA3: no changes. *Again, Dudley is a character whos actually decently balanced despite being top tier. I would make his motions easier (I'd actually make 99% of the motions easier), but otherwise I'd have to do research before touching Dudley too much.* Elena SA1: make it juggle properly, maybe a slight damage buff. Elena SA2: no changes. Elena SA3: no changes. *I actually think Elena's supers are fine, it's her kit that's kinda mediocre. Her meterless moves are better than Alex and Sean, but like them, she's too reliant on EX to perform decent combos. Most of my changes to Elena would give her better combo capability.* Hugo SA1: a smidge more range on startup. Hugo SA2: N/A. Hugo SA3: no changes. *Hugo's in a similar state to Elena: its not that his kit is terrible, it's that everyone else's kits are better. He's not reliant on EX like Elena, but his combo capability isn't great. Elena's easy to buff, but Hugo is difficult (as you said in the Omega Hugo video: you can't give Hugo a cancelable medium).* Ken SA1: make it a short 3 bar super, make it juggle better. Ken SA2: give it a better startup, lower the damage slightly, and make it a medium 2 bar super. Ken SA3: make it a short 2 bar super, mayne buff the damage. *Ken’s balance isn't terrible, but it could be better. He has some problems when lacking EX (why is any move in this franchise minus on hit wtf), and super wise, SAIII basically picks itself. I'd remove a bar, but otherwise I'd mostly just buff his other supers.* Yun SA1: No changes. Yun SA2: Slightly longer bars. Yang SA1: more confirms, increased damage, more consistent in juggles (possibly a 2nd bar). Yang SA2: more damage, make it a short 3 bar super. *I wanna talk about Yun and Yang for a sec. As we know, Genei Jin is busted strong. But, Seiei Enbu is actually pretty good. Now, we could change Genei, but I wanna suggest something else-a switch.* *The supers themselves are unchanged, but Yun now gets Seiei Enbu, while Yang gets Genei Jin. Now, I'd wanna see this in action, but it's possible this alone would lower Yun enough without destroying him, while buffing Yang without making him broken.* Notes: -N/A means idk enough to change it. -All of these changes assume we only change the supers, but most of them would also apply if we rebalanced the whole game (which is why I also put my thoughts for each character). -I'm average at 3S, and this is just after watching the video, so take these as my initial suggestions rather than my final ones. -I mainly play SA1 Ryu, but I have tried out a few other characters (SA2 Yang, SA2 Elena, and SA1 Sean in particular will likely be my secondary characters). -Finally, for my suggestions, I didn't want to remove a super for most of them. I'll allow it for Remy and Twelve's SA3s, and switching Genei and Seiei doesn't count. I say thus because, if 3S were getting a rebalance, I would actually consider either merging some supers and adding new ones, or else just giving everyone an SA4. Feel free to comment your thoughts, and again, great vid as always Baf :D

that honest “is this thing on?” is probably the best intro I’ve heard in youtube lmao

This is *sick* ! Thank you Baf! This is super helpful to me and my husband (he mains Remy, I play Oro). I play Tekken (used to compete in T2-T4 but just rinky dink local stuff) but I still play 3S, it's such a gorgeous timeless game. I love the enthusiasm you still have after all these years. Your videos have truly upped my game. Much love and stay well!

Makoto does have a real confirm to SA1. St. Mp link st. Lk, cancel to dash punch, link SA1. Don't think that changes the tier tho lol. Also I think ibuki SA1 should theoretically be A. Nice to have SA1 to make ex dp safe on block and whiff. If you have all 3 bars, you can do it twice and still have a little meter left. Against most the cast, the chip out creates checkmate scenarios that are safe on block that gives you free wins. Also the amount of meter you get to work with is absurd and she has good ways to spend it Also: I think it was a mistake to put Akuma's supers so low since, at least you have raging demon and kkz regardless of which ones you pick. So if you don't find a chance to use SA3, for example, you can at least stock a decent super for later.

1 hr?! thanks for this, Baf-sensei. Really needed something to unwind with today. 25:25 The rare BafLaf.

One thing I noticed with alex in the street fighter 3 line is that they kept giving him new moves in each entry, both command normals and special moves. my theory is that he was already considered weak in new gen and 2nd impact and capcom "buffed" him by giving him new moves instead of fixing those moves because they were too scared that if they did buff stuff like power bomb or elbow, he would become broken. Alex's issue is that his move set has no cohesion, it felt like they slapped whatever move that would try to fix him instead of making his specials better. I am alex main and he is my favorite character but good lord he has issues and i'm glad that he is finally good in sf5 currently. P.S I heard hes good in TvC

This is the kind of content I’ve really wanted. I love when you just talk about the game! Thank you 🙏

Thsnk you for always putting amazing videos out Baff :)

i know this video is old but i'm glad content like this exists on YT. i haven't gotten into SF3 yet but videos like these are motivating as hell on top of being educational

This needed to be made thank you

38:32 Tanden Renki does 1.6x damage. You can also do karakusa > clHP xx SA3 > crMP xx HP Hyate, which deals good damage and leads to mixup

thank you so much, i was just thinking about this

Love your content! Great stuff!

Damn the knowledge here is crazy. Nice video

5:55 What's KKZ glitch? That means you can do a combo, into another combo with a super (but that combo is not landing any combo (but when he reset its still a combo)).

Props for this man! Just wanna add that you can medium jump kick into Ibuki’s yoroi doushi. Always catches people off guard. It’s wild.

I saw the thumbnail and thought there was a great joke at yuns expense.

cr lp x2 is a hitconfirm for Makoto SA1, kinda underrated imo. also she can confirm SA1 with a single stand mp

I had a good laugh at seeing Blue Nocturne get it's own tier. Also, Seichusen Godanzuki is probably my favorite super in the entire franchise, with Denjin being second and Oil Coaster on Hakkan being third.

Actually a very helpful video, thanks Baf!

23 minutes into the video just realized blue nocturne has its own tier😭😭😭

Enjoying your videos very much

I'm so hyped for this!

"For what it's worth" counter when

Surprised you havent done this video yet, seems right up your alley

24:02 he actually did gill’s SA 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love this channel

Any new Bafael vid still is and always will be an insta watch for me

This is the ONLY tier list I like

Cool tier list, interesting to watch! Seraphic Wing is not parryable. Ibuki SA1 is easy to parry, there's actually two timings you can use, fastest possible (5) and slow (2). for fastest you're double tapping as if you're trying to parry each kunai pair individually. you can rapidly spam parry and it will usually work. for slow you can single tap each pair together. ibuki SA1 is always safe if you dont let ibuki start the super too high in the air or if you dont press buttons too fast which also causes her to gain altitude and throw more kunai. if the enemy starts to successfully parry, then just stop hitting buttons to end the super early and land sooner. Ibuki SA2 is a "meme" bc ppl dont know how to use it. its actually her super i choose over the others. the threat of a super throw is immense but due to "meme" status its a silent threat, like the opposite of "chun L.Fwd into SA2" where the opponent knows "i must block constantly to avoid the hit confirm", instead players are lulled into a false sense of security and let their guard down, allowing you to land it more easily. If the opponent realizes the threat then they're fighting against a high mobility rushdown grappler with nuke damage. the threat of getting caught by Ibuki SA2 can make ppl play too defensively, allowing you to land it; many times you dont even need to land SA2 once you've shown how deadly it can be. Since SA2 is a grab, when fighting opponents with high parry skill you can still present a persistent threat since grabs cannot be parried. Ibuki SA2 also happens very quickly, its just one quick hit, so for enemies that run down the clock you can always get the win even at the last second. Ibuki SA2 damage is already huge, but if you land a taunt first (then land SA2 without taking any damage after taunt) the damage is significantly increased. You can land the taunt raw (difficult) or combo into it off of her punch strings. eg: LP > MP > HP > Taunt or back+MP > HP > Taunt. (only works vs grounded, non short enemy) i find many opponents are shocked at how fast their life bar gets deleted, they dont know the threat of the bonus damage from taunt nor the threat of how having a super throw changes the way ibuki can be played. In a way, ibuki taunt into a later SA2 is a bit like makoto SA3; you've opened huge damage potential if you can land it without taking damage. I would put ibuki SA2 at S or A tier if you have amazing parry skill and are good at reading the opponent and have the knowledge of what can lead into it. its much harder to make use of than confirm supers like ken SA3, chun SA2 or akuma SA1, but if you know how to use it the threat is real. eg: ibuki can SA2 on reaction to makoto Hayate (dash punch) / chun SA2. Ibuki SA2 does not have the range of Hugo Gigas Breaker but the damage is similar. since ibuki is so fast her mobility can compensate for that lack of range. However, ibuki SA2 does not beat other superthrows, but does beat regular throws. you cannot jump ibuki SA2 after the superflash. The only Ibuki SA2 combos are j.LP > j.HP > SA2 (or) j.HP > SA2. however this does not work on Urien/Gill bc the "turn around status" doesnt occur from the jumping fierce. The fireball version of SA2 is the actual meme. it comes out very slowly and its difficult to combo into it unless its a dizzy juggle. i think its meant to be a "dan moment" where the failed version comes out but its junk. it does poor chip damage and isnt difficult to parry, but it is several hits.

I was surprised how middling Yang SA2 was. Normally I thought considering you stock all that meter for the best EX move in the game it would be pretty good not even considering the super itself. I also haven't seen people pick Seiei Enbu much, perhaps its because it contains some good general stuff and some really cool character specific stuff.

just got to the Remy section "remmy supers are quite good", thinking that doesn't sound right, doesn't he have the worst super in the game. Looks at the tier list

Love this video, didn't think Oro super 2 and 3 were that good but now I know

i love how blue nocturne just has its own category

I like how blue nocturne is so bad it has it's own tier.

God damn it baf I'm trying to go to bed and you drop this? Come on now

I LOVE Super 3 Alex, its so satisfying to pull off, I just wish it took less frames to pull off, had 2 bars, and was able to be combo'd into more frequently.

Ooohhhh this is gonna be fun

Idk why I popped off so hard when I saw this in my feed but I did

This isn't scripted? You're still very erudite and succinct here, very good at expressing your thoughts.

I'll take chun's low forward into super over Yun's genei jin any day of the week. Chun is just "watch out for the low forward" Yun is watch out for literally every button because of the super priority.

Oh can you do the same with USF4 Ultras?

You're underrating chun's houyoku damage and stun + post launch mixup. It absolutely pixel for pixel does top tier damage for a medium-long length super. Look at Alex SA2, Ryu/Gouki SA1, remy sa1/2, Yang sa2 for similar length meter supers and they all do WAY less damage lol

If only Blue Nocturne worked like Diamon's Neo Max super in KoF 13. Diamon does a discrete parry motion upon input, and it only activates the freeze if he parries successfully. Diamon's Neo Max isn't even that good, nobody does a raw 3 bar in that game when you can just combo into them. It just goes to show how much of a meme Blue Nocturne really is, Poor Remy...

hey I know it's more editing work, but if you do more things like this in the future, it'd be nice to have some footage of the super as you talk about it!

24:12 I wish i could play Gill

Fantastic detailed summary I agree with the majority of your list. Have you played the 4rd arrange hack of 3s? they changed a bunch of stuff and even added new SAs. A tier of that version would be very fascinating!

I interpreted the title of this video as the actual art of the super photo and I was really confused on how they were gonna be ranked

SA1 on Remy can combo into itself for style points in the corner, not an amazing use of bar but the option is there to finish people off. In any match up where people can pressure you close, Remy's SA2 is preferred for combos and also offers a really good meaty overhead combo after knockdowns too. Also Ryu SA2 is high tier against Dudley because your shimmy game gets much more threatening; forward throw into SA2 is hilarious to land. Just wanted to point that out that that's the specific matchup where SA2 is more threatening than SA1 I think.

ninjas in the club doing aegis reflector

thanks! the only time ive seen makoto sa3 is on wakeup, and it seems uniquely useful for dodging meatys or oki or whatever youd call it. seems to be its only practical use though.

Blue Nocturne having its own tier is hilarious

I watched this whole thing and I didn't mean too. Very interesting.

genei jin is so fun

Take a shot over how many times he says "super"

Hey baf cool video, unrelated but do you have any tips on how to stop people from just charging meter? Specifically Chun it's really hard to approach her to stop that.

LETS FUCKING GO DUDE BAF UPLOAD

What about a tier list for how important a Super is to the overall success of a character?

Nice.

You should do a sf3 super tier list on how to good the super is to the character, then another on how the super is in a vacuum Just an idea

Sean SA2 has the double super juggle in the corner and iirc it can do up to 70% health bar if max damage combo is done

i think Q's SA3 is an interesting thing because i think it's the only command grab i've seen in a fighting game that has the input of QCF + button; especially as someone whose hands disagree with what their brain tells them to do even when calm, it's unique to upkeep pressure with it since it doesn't have the encumbering nature of doing a 360, 720 or even a half-circle back from walking forward & doing normals by all means it isn't anything like SA2 which instant kills whatever eats it and it has a lot of weird shit around it (like being a second command grab on a character that already has one without crazy unique properties unlike ultra throw which can be big tool overlap for Q) but i think its existence is fully justified

When I noticed the Blue Nocturne category at the bottom...🤣😂🤣

I think Urien SA2 should go higher. You can combo into it consistently with cr hp xx mk tackle, light headbutt or anything into light tackle. You can also buffer the motion after a fireball so if you see someone attempt a jump over you can catch them with it (even if they parry it you can knee drop or something to hit them out of the parry) and pick up huge AA damage and stun. I'd say it might even be the preferred super in very situation matches such as SA1 Hugo or SA2 Q (look at Otana use sa2 Vs Hayao to reverse the FT10 at HFS 2019).

Forgot to mention this but Alex SA2 is one of the few invincible supers in the game. For that little meter I’d say it’s at least pretty good for an EX super. I generally think Ibuki might have the worst supers because they’re all generally pretty mediocre with limited use where at best you get some burst damage and no EX’s with her SA3 and occasional chip with sa1. Ibuki just lacks a lot of appliances for her meter options that even Alex has some good ex’s and s decent sa2.

Sei Enbu nullifying Genei Jin sounds hilarious

Really liked this video, however there was a little detail that seems inconsistent to me. Basically wheter or not this list is considering the SAs in a vacuum or in consideration of the tools that synergize with it. You explain how Chun's SA2 is decent, but not really that crazy by itself. The thing that really pushes it to the next level is Chun's insane cr mk (I agree, cr mk late cancel has to be literally the one thing that makes her top, without it she drops quite a bit). However, when you talked about genei jin you didn't subtract points to it because of it's dependance on other tools (like Yun's command grab mostly). Genei jin by itself is not SS tier really. It gives you infinite juggle with ground attacks, speeds up every animation and gives way better frame advantage. Give this super to someone like Chun and it wouldn't be nearly as strong, as she lacks a command grab and a good way to launch the opponent, two of the main aspects of Yun's genei jin. So when you are making this tier list which one is it? The SAs in a vacuum or in consideration of the tools that synergize with it? imo, if it's in a vacuum nothing compares to denjin, it would be strong literally with any char. If it's in consideration of the tools that synergize with it, it has to be hoyokusen.

Its very unfortunate to see yang super 3 go against his kit, seems like mad fun

Ah yes. Blue Nocturne. The "I hate myself" Super art.

Doctor: "You have one hour, twelve minutes, and three seconds to live" Me:

am i all alone

Really wish you would have put clips of the supers before you talked about them so I could know what you meant

40:44 I think that was the intended combo for it but the scaling for H.T.hook to SA2 is GOD AWFUL. SA2 can also grab outta Akumas teleport. near useless fact but funny 48:51 there is also the fact that unlike oro and mak, the opponent can actually avoid you because lol Q 1:00:28 in this memes defence (and maybe me being a bad player) 12 is the best thing about 12. His mobility and his air attacks are great and they tend to keep him in the game. Once they use X.copy, 12 isn't zipping around the screen anymore so I just tend to fight him then.

Could you do a ultra combo tier list?

I Think it'd be cool if there was a fighting game where you could active super at the push of a button but you have to cancel the freeze frames with the "Super combo" like Imagine your super is Shoryureppa, just after the super freeze you have to input two light shoryu's and then a heavy. I think it'd be cool because if it doesn't juggle properly you can just not do the heavy and get Oki, or even activate your super in their face and then grab them instead, it's a waste of meter but what if it was last hit mixup? Edit: the super freeze into something else would be like The thing in strive or SFV when you activate trigger.