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SFX Rival vs DR920L vs X5 Legion | You'll Be Surprised! 

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You'll be shocked at what we found during this comparison! Shadow Systems DR920L vs Canik SFX Rival vs Sig P320 X5 Legion.... someone has to take the crown...
Choosing a long slide, striker fired pistol can be tough and there are some great options out there. With the Shadow Systems DR920L, Canik Rival SFX and Sig X5 Legion, they are all great options.
*Note: The Canik SFX Rival S was not available when this video was filmed*
In this video we cover what sets each of these pistols apart and what makes one better than the other in some aspects. They all have awesome features and made by reputable manufacturers. These three are leaders in the striker fired pistol market and are big players in competition shooting.
Some things about this review are subjective, but some are not. A bad Magwell design, high price tag or crappy optics plate system can certainly sway someone’s choice for a competition pistol or even for a duty gun.
They all have mag wells, good triggers, optics cuts and good sights. To choose one, a discerning shooter needs to try each one and figure out what works best for you! They are great options and I would feel completely on par with any one if these were what I picked to defend or compete with! Hope you enjoyed the review of these sweet pistols! How you enjoyed this gun review, and be sure to check out all of our SHOT Show 2023 coverage!
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@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
If you like this video, I've put together a list of a few more that you'd like too! Micro Compact Comparison: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-i5YA4611Mo4.html Canik Elite Combat vs Walther PDP Pro SD: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4VfsZZ2RVIs.html PSA Sabre Billet Review: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1WE_65ux_Zk.html
@v.german11b
@v.german11b Год назад
Of those three, I choose the *Canik SFx Rival Darkside.* Very nice detailed comparison between the 3 brands.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Thank you! Those caniks are sweet shooters and tough to beat!
@v.german11b
@v.german11b Год назад
@@HuntFishShootChannel If only the other competition gun manufacturers would reduce their over inflated prices.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Wouldn’t that be nice…. Well hold your breath, there’s a new option coming to the market this month and it is awesome
@fang4524
@fang4524 Год назад
I have the Canik Combat. Has the same trigger as the rival. Best on the market. The feel is amazing.
@LazyGunGuy
@LazyGunGuy Год назад
I am looking forward to the Rival-S steel frame, should tame the recoil like the legion.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Those will be nice no doubt!
@geebeaux
@geebeaux Год назад
What "surprised" me?
@alexanderguy307
@alexanderguy307 Год назад
Mine shoots super flat
@gerstenpower7398
@gerstenpower7398 Год назад
Just picked mine up, dark side version, looking forward to testing it out before my IDPA match.
@RedEyePergo
@RedEyePergo Год назад
Still wont shoot as soft as my compensated Canik Mete SF .
@stevenjackson466
@stevenjackson466 9 месяцев назад
Great video. Been eyeing the Canik TP9SFX, I think it’ll be my next pistol. This was really helpful.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel 9 месяцев назад
That would be a great choice!
@hometed8733
@hometed8733 Год назад
The magwell issue on the Legion is by design for a specific type of competition requirement. So that is intentional. The 22-round extended P320 mags fit fine. I just wish they had a beautiful extended mag in the billet aluminum with the Legion logo. Those flush mags are quite nice and are very slick. Thanks for the review!
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Yes they are and understandable! Love those big stick mags they have!
@DavidBrown-wo9ip
@DavidBrown-wo9ip Год назад
I love that I just saw the Shadow Systems video about the DR920L from Shot Show less than an hour ago. NICE!😎✌️
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
So did we! Made us happy to help them launch it!
@Narsuitus
@Narsuitus Год назад
Thanks for a great review. Even though I prefer combat guns to competition guns, I found your video very useful.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Glad we could help! Thanks for watching!
@hestongraves3274
@hestongraves3274 Год назад
The legion is such a great gun to shoot. Feels and looks like a proper weapon.
@bbcoachSupermanBR
@bbcoachSupermanBR Год назад
I have about 10,000 rounds through my X5 and never had an issue with range drills and the mags. I did, however, get myself 5 extended round mags. The Canik (and Caniks in general) are an amazing value. Wouldve liked a CZ P10 F in here too
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Ultimately we would have the P10F Comp and VP9L but had difficulty finding them. Goes to show you, there are tons of great options!
@bhief473
@bhief473 Год назад
After 10,000 rounds did you find anything that needed replaced? Mag springs, guide rod springs?
@ronhunt9396
@ronhunt9396 Год назад
Great video. My favorite that I own is the Staccato C2 9mm with a green dot. I have a permanent range and a portable range on my property. I'm not a competition shooter
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Hell yeah! The C2 is a fantastic gun and it is better than these pistols but obviously that comes with a cost, worth it to some,like myself 💪 thanks for watching!!!
@2aTommy
@2aTommy Год назад
I wonder how this would turn out if these were the newest versions of these guns(320 legion with the integrated comp, the new rival steel frame, and the DR920l). The Rival S is much heavier in the frame so I think that would help soak up a lot of the recoil/muzzle flip. The dark side rival has a plate with a built-in back up iron sight for shield footprint micro dots that doesn’t come with the grey/gold. Personally I haven’t ever had a problem with Canik’s plates, they’re metal, and seem durable to me, but they could be thinner. At least they aren’t like Walther, CZ, and others who sell the gun as “optics ready”, then make you special order a plate and sometimes even charge extra for it 🤦‍♂️ lol. Great video 👍
@huntgar
@huntgar Год назад
Might be a while before that video but worth the wait to me👍
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
The rival S came out about a week after we filmed this video. No doubt it will be a great gun!
@snipervision1
@snipervision1 Год назад
Swap to canik sfx rival s, and you have the winner. Swap to the red dot for $100 more and you have a game changer! I’m not a Glock guy but only because when I have shot one in competition it had the crappy stock one. P.S. I shoot the original Tp9sfx with a pull weight of 2.5lbs with viper and love it. Buddy shoots the shadow2 and was leaning that way for next purchase until I saw the rival s. Great video sir!
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Thank you!!
@mfcriz2561
@mfcriz2561 Год назад
1st time seeing your videos. Good job man.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Welcome to the channel! Check out our other stuff if you want and we have weekly content! Thanks for watching and appreciate the compliment. 💪
@thomaspuma434
@thomaspuma434 Год назад
You did a very thorough job Thank you
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Thank you Thomas! Glad you enjoyed it!
@rudyfigueroa2246
@rudyfigueroa2246 Год назад
First gun was a g3 Taurus 2nd I just got canik tp9sfx..both nice affordable guns I hope in some months I am able to get this shadow systems one in my collection. Looks really nice.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
gotta start somewhere! Thanks for sharing!
@EricSmith-mn4tz
@EricSmith-mn4tz Год назад
I have the Canik and the Legion (along with a W. Q5 Match) and they all are great guns, the Q5 has to been in this conversation as well.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
The Q5 doesn’t have to be but they are also hard to come by. Great guns though!
@optimusvader7823
@optimusvader7823 Год назад
It was a great Review 😎. One thing i am disagreeing: the plates on The CANIK Rival are well made of Aluminum and includes 5 for all types of Red Dots. Normally optic’s plates can cost aroun $40+ . I hope you have a chance to try The CANIK SFX RIVAL- S.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
We will most definitely be doing a Canik Rival S when we get our hands on one! Maybe I should clarify, the plates themselves aren’t bad and there are multiple options including, but I don’t like the deletion of the rear sight and they are thick raising the optic height. I would prefer to retain the rear sight and have that optic sit in the slide lower for cowitness. It’s possible with this trigger/striker design as Walther accomplished it with the PDP. It’s still easily the best pistol for the money, in my opinion 💪. Thanks for watching!!!
@dvcmaster
@dvcmaster Год назад
I never had any issues with the PMags until recently. I have a DR920 Elite and an MR920L. The DR is 100% with Glock mags, but I have had some issues with the PMags. After break in the PMag performance did improve but still not 100%. I have occasional FTFs with the PMags. On the other hand, the MR920L has been 100% with both. PMags are range only for me in pistols.
@seanvine39
@seanvine39 Год назад
I’ve got a pmag with well over 5,000 rounds. Never been cleaned. I’m punishing the hell out of this thing trying to get it to fail. Just keeps running like a champ. I only use pmags in my SS guns, I’ve never had any issues. 5 SS guns total.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Glad to hear it!
@briancarter9120
@briancarter9120 9 месяцев назад
I have the sig p320 xfive legend and the canik tp9fsx. Both are great guns. The canik comes with more in the box, but the sig is hands down my favorite. It will shoot anything I put in the pipe accurately and fast.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel 9 месяцев назад
Hell yeah 💪
@johnpelfrey2041
@johnpelfrey2041 Год назад
Great job!!
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Thanks John!
@Johnblaze678
@Johnblaze678 Год назад
Since this video seems to focus on the use of these pistols in a competition setting, It's important to note that most guys using the p320 to shoot competitively will be running the Sig 21 round mags for the ease of insertion and/or potential stripping, and added capacity allowing more flexibility when planning their stage. So the issues with the legion base plate are easily remedied. And if they aren't running the stock 21 round mags, they're using some other +5 mag extension.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Although you aren’t wrong, you still buy this particular Sig model and it comes with those basepads/mags/Magwell. Your theory doesn’t make it any better, the gun should just come with those things, kinda like making the DH3 version and charging 300 bucks more.
@Johnblaze678
@Johnblaze678 Год назад
@@HuntFishShootChannel Fair point. I agree that it should just ship with the extended magazines. The M17 and M18 do, not sure why they thought it wouldn't be advantageous to include extended magazines with a competition oriented gun. Guessing a typical money grab.
@stovepipe8966
@stovepipe8966 Год назад
@@HuntFishShootChannel In USPSA/IPSC CO/PO you can’t use the magwell anyway. The internal bevels in the Sig TXG grip and the Rival are very well designed and are just as fast as the mag well IMO. For competition, you want to be able to precisely and very efficiently hit the actual internal funnel, I never actually touch the mag well with the mag even if it is installed . I’ll throw the magwell on for IDPA CO just cause it looks cool . I do have after market + 0 heavy Alu extended base pads for my Sig Max , but that’s just to get more grab on them and more drop on the release. I’m in Canada so we are capped at 10 for all divisions. Otherwise the Max in the US does ship with x4 21 round mags . The DH3 comes with x3 21 round mags , some enhanced grip work, a better optic plate system than the X5 etc . I like all the pistols you’ve got there - but for best overall everything for competition , I prefer the Sig Max - heavy frame , trigger is great once broken in , no malfunctions with any ammo in any situation. I’ve had a few minor hiccups with both Caniks and SS .
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
All three are great options! In particular shooter preference and what one person shoots best is important!
@huntgar
@huntgar Год назад
I'm not a fan of the optic mounting plates either but I do like the Canik best. Have you spent time with the Walther Q4 SF/Q5 Match?
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
The Walther is very nice but I would Get the Canik pistols before the Walther and they are cheaper!
@huntgar
@huntgar Год назад
@@HuntFishShootChannel and come with more mags. Walther mags are priced just like the pistols🥺
@Osprey1994
@Osprey1994 Год назад
The only thing I would say needs to be swapped on a G34 is the sights, that's it. Stock trigger and everything you can easily hit at 25 to 100 yards. I only own one Glock, so it's not as if I am a Glock adherent, but I can admit that the only thing I would change is the slide because it's not an MOS model and I like red dots. The trigger is fine, the Ameriglo sights it came with are great, it's just a solid pistol.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
A Gen 5 G34 runs about 700 then if you put good fiber optic front blacked out rear sights like the others you are closer to 800. You still don’t have a Magwell, upgrade trigger, optics cut or good serrations like the other two, if we take the Shadow Systems out of the equation. The stock trigger on a Glock is lack luster in comparison to its competitors.
@frankcampisi6031
@frankcampisi6031 Год назад
Love my legion . Use it for competition and it has served me well
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
The legion is a great pistol and has a proven track record! I like mine as well!
@Three60Crusader
@Three60Crusader Год назад
I just picked up the SFX Darkside for sub 700 so looking forward to trying it out.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
You will love it no doubt! Such nice pistols and can’t be beat for the money
@Blakehenry11
@Blakehenry11 11 месяцев назад
Not a big fan of the Sig P320 series of pistols. Canik is awesome however my choice is the Shadow systems. Great review.
@dalerobbins4737
@dalerobbins4737 Год назад
ERY good and honest review 👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Thank you Dale! The reality is they are all great handguns and someone could be happy with any of them!
@jamesdelong6401
@jamesdelong6401 Год назад
Nice pistol. I've been 👀 Balling 👀 shadow systems line up for 3 weeks. I'm just holding out for them to come out with a full metal pistol.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
That would be sweet!!! Thanks for watching
@ShittyCut
@ShittyCut 11 месяцев назад
I had issues with the canik out the box with blazer brass. I didn’t like how large the mag button was it would drill my support hand. I had a dr920p also issues with failure to feed and eject issues after 400 rounds. Never had an issue with the 320 legion. Canik IS very accurate though.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
@MaRcuS-ht7lk
@MaRcuS-ht7lk Год назад
All 3 pistols are great. I’ve owned Canik for the past 4 years. I’m glad they’re getting their recognition. A very slept on gun You really do get a lot of quality for the money the trigger is great. I love everything about it. they are taking the market by storm.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Yes they are! Great guns no doubt!
@deanmiller6177
@deanmiller6177 10 месяцев назад
The new Mete is having a lot of issues though.I have a Rival and a TP9 SFX and love them.changeg the trigger out on the TP9 to a flat face.I still hwve to go with Shadow Systems though overall
@dkrz123
@dkrz123 Год назад
For USPSA matches, you can't use the magwell flare on the X5 Legion anyway. That's one reason it's removable. When it's off, it's no different than the other pistols that are discussed here.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Great thanks for sharing. Uspsa may not be the only purpose.
@stovepipe8966
@stovepipe8966 Год назад
@@HuntFishShootChannel I know this has been beaten to death , but there’s nothing wrong with the Legion mags for USPSA or IPSC CO or PO as you have ti take off the magwell anyway. . I use the magwell when I shoot IDPA CO but use Sig extended base pads . But USPSA guys are going to use 21+ round mags anyway . The P320 Max comes with 4 21 round mags . Both the Rival and the Legion/Max TXG modules have very good internally flared mag funnels and I can load just as fast as with the magwell
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Great thanks for sharing! Maybe sig should sell the pistol without the Magwell and then make the pistol cheaper! That would be great
@waynecastleman1363
@waynecastleman1363 Год назад
All three could be a lot of fun at the range. 🇺🇸💪🙏
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Tons of fun!
@patthis
@patthis Год назад
Great review, which one do you shoot the best?
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
The DR920L
@ricksprague3337
@ricksprague3337 Год назад
Great video nice review maybe sig will listen. Heck maybe hire you 😂
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Hahahah right that would work hahah
@awokeone7997
@awokeone7997 Год назад
I know the Canik Rival S is out but I'm an M&P/P10 type of guy. Would like to see a video of you with the M&P Competitor vs all of those on the table.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
That would be ideal, but they are just not available or as easy to acquire as the other two
@doc2936
@doc2936 Год назад
Canik rival sfx with a disruptive defense compensator and tp9 threaded barrel needs nothing else. I added a bencstorger recoil management system into it also. Shoots flats.
@JaronActual
@JaronActual Год назад
Having a Rival and X5, the X5 does indeed shoot softer, especially if you swap the recoil spring to match your ammo. That said, the value of the Rival is a force to be reckoned with. For me, the biggest downside of the Rival is only coming with two mags. Being $300-$400 cheaper than the Legion leaves you with a lot of money for extra mags, add-ons, optics, belt system, etc.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
It really does. We are gonna try and get our hands on the Rival S asap!
@juniorlewalski4393
@juniorlewalski4393 Год назад
I had a dead trigger on my new rival polymer frame and it was brand new and well lubricated. I regret getting it because I'm the back of my mind I don't know if it will happen again. I guess no one has this issue though 🤷‍♂️
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Hmm that’s interesting, never had that problem! Definitely reach out to them for repair
@juniorlewalski4393
@juniorlewalski4393 Год назад
@@HuntFishShootChannel I know! No one has!!!!! Lol
@samkamyafes2139
@samkamyafes2139 Год назад
@@juniorlewalski4393 bro did u try to oil your spring ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vnWhWkmQCFA.html firing pin spring and another springs sorry for my english
@eriklambert3809
@eriklambert3809 Год назад
I have become a bit of a SS fan boy over the last few yrs. Love getting an out of the box gun that is kind of done without having to send everything off.
@ammogiant824
@ammogiant824 Год назад
Yes I am..... was now for some strange reason I'm all in on Canik fan
@samsolis92781
@samsolis92781 Год назад
I heard everyone complains about the mags it comes with!! What’s your experience? Use Glock mags instead?
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
I use the ones it comes with and G17 mags and they all work great. I have never had an issue with PMag GL9 mags, even using them before owning a shadow.
@njcranes
@njcranes Год назад
over 3k shots thru my Rival at the range and Steel Challenge, great piece to me. Because I can't help myself, I love to tinker with everything I own. Added tungsten guide rod, new rod spring, striker spring, plunger spring, did put on FS trigger (zero wall and short reset, be careful), brass backstrap and finally a green dot (eyes are aging along with the rest of me). Still with those, puts me less than the cost of the DR920L. Incredible value the Rival
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Yes it is! Great setup! Thanks for sharing!
@braylonfisher8062
@braylonfisher8062 Год назад
“This content”🐐🐐
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
💪💪💪
@redus2
@redus2 Год назад
Seeing that Shadow Systems make me regret getting a DR920 last year :) now I want that DR920L :D
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
You needs it! I don’t know if I’ll be shooting my DR920 much anymore
@edgaresquivel2147
@edgaresquivel2147 Год назад
Well you both can send me your DR920s, I won’t mind…
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Get right on it! 😂
@jonathancaldwell4195
@jonathancaldwell4195 Год назад
Why do you need to be able to grab the clip if it falls out? Just curious, I don’t shoot competition.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
I’m confused by your question, if you wouldn’t mind clarifying
@jonathancaldwell4195
@jonathancaldwell4195 Год назад
@@HuntFishShootChannel how is the flush mags on the sig an issue for competition shooting?
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Because you have to deliberately push them into the Magwell and seat them or they will fall out. It almost makes the Magwell counter productive due to them being flush fit
@idrisatesci
@idrisatesci Год назад
I am trained and educated on reading body language. Obviously, you stared way much more than Rival than others giving me a good idea ;)
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
It’s a great gun, best value on the market for what it is. Side bar, If you are trained in body language can you read my mind? Objectionable the Canik is one of the best options, but personally I will pick the DR920L 😂
@johnmoore8067
@johnmoore8067 Год назад
That's because it's SO much sexier.
@randyreviewsit
@randyreviewsit Год назад
I would argue the new king will be out this year. Will be a zev with an icarus precision grip and the long slide and barrel.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
I mean it will likely cost twice as much as these then and you might as well buy a Staccato at that point.
@deanmiller6177
@deanmiller6177 10 месяцев назад
Have both the Canik and a Shadow Systems.Shadow Systems will outperform the other two and I will put my Canik next.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel 10 месяцев назад
For sure!
@B0N3ZNP3WZ
@B0N3ZNP3WZ Год назад
Shadow systems all day every day. I can't wait To get the new DR920L!
@jaysen192
@jaysen192 Год назад
The Sig and Shadow Systems DO NOT use optic plates, they mount directly to the slide. I own both. The Sig with a Romeo 1 Pro and the DR920 with a Holosun 507
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
That is correct.
@phenom7181
@phenom7181 Год назад
Check out the new Sig P320 xfive DH3.
@NeverGone23
@NeverGone23 Год назад
I bought the 21 mags for the Legion.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Hell yeah
@YouBoyJpres
@YouBoyJpres Год назад
920L 😮💪🏽
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
It’s sweet!
@joed3264
@joed3264 4 месяца назад
Looks like the Sig won't make weight for IDPA - too heavy. I have a Canik SFX Rival Steel on the way. It makes weight at 43 oz. I shot a friend's today. The steel frame takes the snap away. Bore axis does make a difference.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel 4 месяца назад
All good points!
@jamesdelong6401
@jamesdelong6401 10 месяцев назад
Shadow systems seems like to me they killing it with their optics cut design on their slides. No, mounting plate needed. A plus
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel 10 месяцев назад
Absolutely!
@davidhoward9722
@davidhoward9722 Год назад
Nils won Carry Optics USPSA with the Canik.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Sure did! It’s a great gun and the S model is even sweeter!
@mmike40451
@mmike40451 Год назад
He would have won with a Taurus
@charles17508
@charles17508 Год назад
Wish shadow systems used gen 5 components
@charles17508
@charles17508 Год назад
I'd take the shadow systems
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
👏
@ABiblicalView
@ABiblicalView Год назад
I could tell by the thumbnail we got a glock fan here. New glock vs semi new canik. The Canik S should have been in here to be fair. New vs New
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
It wasn’t even out when we made this video. I literally stated the Rival itself is the best value and one of the best.
@ABiblicalView
@ABiblicalView Год назад
@@HuntFishShootChannel just messin with ya brother 🙂 we all appreciate the time and effort you must have put into giving us this comparison. Thank you very much.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Thanks! All good, glad you like it and we appreciate our viewers!
@va.6819
@va.6819 Год назад
I am using Holosun 507c X2 solar and works goog
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
I bet! Those are good for!
@marisasoniapellegrino3926
@marisasoniapellegrino3926 7 месяцев назад
@TheTGRproductions
@TheTGRproductions 11 месяцев назад
I'm gonna go with the Canik on this one, they're just amazing handguns for the price!
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel 11 месяцев назад
Yes they sure are!
@darenalleyne466
@darenalleyne466 Год назад
🙏
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
💪💪💪
@sharper9009
@sharper9009 Год назад
Newsflash!! The mag wells are not used in competition because they are illegal in the main divisions in which they will be shot.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Newsflash on a competition focused gun, why put them on in the first place then and save the end use money.
@sharper9009
@sharper9009 Год назад
@@HuntFishShootChannel That would be a question for the manufacturers. But I couldn’t agree with you more
@leoguy1609
@leoguy1609 Год назад
For the its range you probably won't find anything better than the Canik SFx Rival. One thing people do is complain to much they don't like this or that or a particular brand for whatever the reason, there will never be a perfect firearm because if there was we wouldn't need all these firearms! If it works for you? Great, that all that matters.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
It is a great gun indeed! Hard not to like!
@russi1743
@russi1743 6 месяцев назад
I didn't watch it, but let me guess, they are all good guns )
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel 6 месяцев назад
That is actually true! Outside of that it’s personal preference and bank account 😂
@mschulz55
@mschulz55 Год назад
You should try rival dark side it addresses your issue with optic plates
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Heck yeah!
@derrick11boutain
@derrick11boutain Год назад
I'm sure this guy has shot the 320 Legion, but the canik has the high bore axis?!?
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
And a lack of beavertail. We shoot all the pistols side by side in the video. the Canik has a higher bore axis than the DR920L and feels higher or a toucher higher dimensionally then a 320. That’s not to say it doesn’t shoot well either because it does!
@Samyouell11510
@Samyouell11510 Год назад
@@HuntFishShootChannel all the canik fanboys can’t handle when you recommend something over a canik.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Most people can’t for any pistols and I don’t frankly understand it haha
@chrisr7694
@chrisr7694 8 месяцев назад
My Shadow DR920 is the worst gun I own and the only gun i have ever purchased that I regret. I also have the X5 Legion, absolutly amazing gun and would buy another in a heartbeat.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel 8 месяцев назад
Out of curiosity, why is it the worst gun you own?
@Glock7eventeen
@Glock7eventeen Год назад
P320 is the king, same gun used by the U.S. military along with the Norweigan, Danish and most recently Canadian and Australian militaries.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Military or government contracts don’t deem a gun the best. But they are a good gun!
@Glock7eventeen
@Glock7eventeen Год назад
@@HuntFishShootChannel maybe there are other guns that could be just as good as a stock p320, but I want the same gun that is used by the strongest, most powerful military in human history. Also, a proper P320 build, with a PMM Tardigrade Comp + barrel, light cut slide, titanium rod, TXG grip, spring and a gas lever will outperform any gun on the planet, even a 2011 Atlas or a Staccato, it’s like there’s zero recoil. Although a build like that would cost around $3K so it’s not exactly cheap lol
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
That would be a sick build! PMM makes some awesome stuff!
@Glock7eventeen
@Glock7eventeen Год назад
@@HuntFishShootChannel yeah they just released a new comp + barrel for the p320, but it costs like $1600 which is crazy
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
I know it’s super expensive, but I wants it!
@idonot123
@idonot123 Год назад
Interesting, I think the optics plates for the Canik are of a very high quality.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Not in comparison with the rest on the market and when the optic is mounted on them, it’s like a skyscraper
@Blueknight1960
@Blueknight1960 Год назад
@@HuntFishShootChannel I think you should put an optic on the other two and then compare the height of the optics on video.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Thanks for the input! We will take it into consideration
@marisasoniapellegrino3926
@marisasoniapellegrino3926 7 месяцев назад
I have the rival great gun overall
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel 6 месяцев назад
We think so too! Looking to add the Steel Frame to our lineup
@tarabusaw4627
@tarabusaw4627 Год назад
Canik!
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
🔥🔥🔥
@thetacticalape8852
@thetacticalape8852 Год назад
Walther PDP Pro ftw!
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
If those existed in a readily available fashion, they would be mentioned. They are great pistol but that model in particular is a unicorn.
@thetacticalape8852
@thetacticalape8852 Год назад
@@HuntFishShootChannel I guess availability varies based on location. I picked one up for Xmas for only 649 at a local sporting goods shop.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
🧐🧐🧐🧐 you son of gun!!! We have been looking for one to review and it’s been impossible and very limited on the web too. Even the folks at Walther told us at SHOT Show there available is extremely limited. Consider yourself lucky! Those are great pistols and easily up here with these.
@thetacticalape8852
@thetacticalape8852 Год назад
@HuntFishShootChannel Well, if you are ever in NE Ohio, drop a line and you can try mine.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Funny story true story…. Just bought a used/not used one at Fin Feather and Fur. In all serious I have checked stores regularly since it was to be released with no luck since, even was in contact with Walther to get one and they had none available. So moral of the story, we will have a review soon! Haha
@Pmedic605
@Pmedic605 Год назад
I took the mag well off of my 320 X5 Legion because the grip module already has a flared opening.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Great! Thanks for sharing!
@el.mas.buscado7221
@el.mas.buscado7221 3 месяца назад
SFX RIVAL HANDS DOWN
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel 3 месяца назад
Such a great pistol!
@boomee78
@boomee78 Год назад
You do not need all the things you mentiond to shoot competition with a glock 34 specifically gen 5s if you are running a red dot you dont even need new sights. If not yes get the sights that you prefer but even on the dr920l people switch sights. But you definitely do not need a new trigger or magwell to be competitive in competition
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
of course you don’t need any of those things but they are nice to have.
@boomee78
@boomee78 Год назад
@HuntFishShootChannel the way it was put in your video made it sound like you did. The words you used to paraphrase were to start competion you need x y z people who are new to competion seem to always think you need certain things its about phrasing and how things are worded. Im trying to get into competion myself unfortunately inwork most weekends and due to manpower issues its extreamly hard to get time off unless injured. That being said i think im just gonna use my g45 mos or my g17 gen 5 and see how far i can get. Or use my walther pdps. Im hesitant to try another shadow sytem or sig
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Not necessarily must have items but they are things which every Glock owner who uses a Glock to compete does to them. Time is always against us! I know the feeling. For practice, your duty guns would be perfect for the reps and skill building.
@BangBang-np9nm
@BangBang-np9nm 6 месяцев назад
SS are reliability nightmares
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel 6 месяцев назад
Not in our experience
@brianmadlock8385
@brianmadlock8385 Год назад
So you are the first that said the canik had the higher over bore axis. I’m torn between the rival(s) or sig legion . I want kid of a do all. Fun at the range, do all with light . Also looking at a cz .
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
The CZ P10F Competition is another great option. The Canik is probably the highest bore axis however it still shoots really well. Don’t let that scare you off, just won’t be as forgiving under recoil as the DR920L
@brianmadlock8385
@brianmadlock8385 Год назад
Thank you!
@brianmadlock8385
@brianmadlock8385 Год назад
How would the pdp pro sd stack up against these pistols?
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
It would do great I’m sure!
@cee3
@cee3 Год назад
Where is the rival steel? The rival won 6 different national championships this year.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
We made this video before that was released!
@davidhoward9722
@davidhoward9722 Год назад
Silly comment on the X5 mag…..just get the 21 rd standard Sig mag…..done
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
It’s what it ships with from the factory. It’s as the pistol sits here, if I gotta go out and get additional mags or basepads does the idea of three mags with little basepads even represent a selling point?
@jonah8133
@jonah8133 Год назад
"Canik doesn't have the track record of the other 2". ? Since when does shadow systems have a good track record? All I've seen from them is garbage reliability from a harshly overpriced platform. Other than that, I really enjoyed this video
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Canik rival hasn’t been out long and the shadow design is a Glock copy/clone. Regardless, in what realm have you seen “garbage” reliability? Do you have a basis for claiming they are “harshly” overpowered or have you never seen a modded or tricked out Glock pistol which usually costs twice as much as shadow systems products?
@reefermonster9651
@reefermonster9651 3 месяца назад
Nah bro shadow systems ain't it
@jonah8133
@jonah8133 3 месяца назад
@@HuntFishShootChannelspeaking from my own experience owning a DR920 War Poet that had issues which Shadow systems never responded to. Also you’ve never done much research on Shadow Systems if you had to ask me that question. Go check out Honest Outlaws review of the shadow systems newer subcompact pistol the cr something. There’s lots and lots of examples of piss poor QC etc
@jonah8133
@jonah8133 3 месяца назад
@@reefermonster9651not at all dude. They blow
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel 3 месяца назад
@jonah8133 that has not been my experience in a number of their pistols and some other folks I know. Of course issues happen and it’s unfortunate they happened to tou.
@marshaclifton1535
@marshaclifton1535 Год назад
I have rival steel . It would win
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Probably would, it wasn’t a thing when this was made.
@fang4524
@fang4524 Год назад
Rival-S has less recoil than any of those guns.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
We unknowingly filmed this days before the Rival-S came out, or it probably would’ve made it in there.
@ThruMyLens100
@ThruMyLens100 Год назад
You say that whoever designed the mag well magazine combination on the Legion X5 has never shot competition, but I think it is you who has never shot competition. The gun was designed for USPSA competition. It can be used in several different divisions, including production, carry optics, and open. The only division that you will use the mag well would be open in for that division you would use extended base pads. The other divisions would require you to remove the mag well to be compliant. The only division that you would use the stock based pads would be production. And in that division, you would have to remove the mag well so the design is great.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Removing the magazine well would be fine and the mags would be great. But with the stock mags it doesn’t index well or work. You are also only considering one type of competition shooting, there is others ya know like three gun, multi gun, two gun, tactical games, just to name a few. How about this, what if someone wanted to use it for a duty pistol? They would need new mags or longer basepads. My point is this, why not make a more usable mag well, that can be used with the stock magazines or easily removed, if deemed necessary for compliance in certain divisions. Besides your point of Sig thought or thinks the mags work well with that mag well, why come out with an updated DH3 model which uses the 21 round magazines. You also assume this opinion or statement I make is original and no one else holds the same sentiment. Remember this also, you can’t pretend to know someone’s background.
@ThruMyLens100
@ThruMyLens100 Год назад
@@HuntFishShootChannel - it’s amazing to me how much digital ink someone will spill simply to avoid saying “I was wrong.” The point about the duty pistol is completely irrelevant. This gun was designed primarily with input from Phil Strader himself- former president of USPSA and long time competitor. The gun was not designed to be a duty pistol. Certainly it could be used in that capacity. But SIG has any number of different choices if a duty weapon is desired. This gun was designed for competition specifically for USPSA. It was also designed to be used in several different divisions. The magazine capacity for those divisions vary. Only one would actually use the mag well. The reality is anyone who uses this to shoot in any competitive sport will probably buy base pads to be competitive in their selected division. SIG wanted to make this garden more “special“ by giving it Legion specific bass pads. It would’ve been cheaper to use the standard 21 round magazines instead. The point here is that a person, knowledgeable in competitive shooting would know that the base pads and mag well on this gun are a non-issue. Just learn from the mistake and move on.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Digital ink 😂 I like that. Way more than your comment. Let’s agree to disagree and move on. Your response is short sighted comparable to my short sighted opinion about the base pads or Magwell not interfacing well. Which is really the issue, they don’t. If Sig made This pistol for competition use, why not just make both compatible or even not ship with a basepad and Magwell since like you said, most people will change the basepads and Magwell anywho. Appreciate your input.
@ThruMyLens100
@ThruMyLens100 Год назад
@@HuntFishShootChannel - we are inching toward common ground. I don’t disagree that they could have just shipped the gun with the cheaper 21 round magazines. But since it is a Legion, they opted to give it magazines with a special ,more expensive base pad knowing that most users will get different magazine/base pads anyway. So, if most users are going to make a change, why not give them something special opposed to something pedestrian?
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Fair enough! See I knew maybe we had some common ground! Just a slight difference of opinion and maybe I could have worded my opinion better 👍 We will likely review the DH3 version soon enough because it is slick and popular!
@drkok67
@drkok67 Год назад
mate just accept the CANIK systems are the best. the rest is competitors nothing more.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
They are great pistols but at some point the individual shooter must pick what they shoot best and they feel most comfortable with
@steppenwolf5956
@steppenwolf5956 Год назад
canik
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Great pistol
@YERAFirearms
@YERAFirearms Год назад
I have the Canik and the P320. I am not fan of the ugly Glocks
@PJ-is1jy
@PJ-is1jy Год назад
Glock takes the crown
@KravMagoo
@KravMagoo Год назад
No, it doesn't. It's a poor man's gun...you have to be poor to buy it instead of a SS...and if you do anyway, it will make you even poorer trying to get the Glock to even remotely resemble a SS. It's a BAD PURCHASE.
@damrgee8279
@damrgee8279 Год назад
Nice Baphomet
@gunnarhoffer7091
@gunnarhoffer7091 Год назад
5 inch m&p with an apex blows all 3 out of the water
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Год назад
Thanks for your opinion, the M&P with a apex trigger is nice for sure.
@NASTYVEGASNATE
@NASTYVEGASNATE Месяц назад
The rival s, beats them all. I love it.
@HuntFishShootChannel
@HuntFishShootChannel Месяц назад
That is a sweet pistol indeed
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