I suffer from purist obsession and rage, so I can't bring myself to play any game adapted from Tolkien's work. It doesn't make me a better person or anything, but I do gatekeep Tolkien country with extreme prejudice because everyone, especially The Tolkien Society, seems dedicated to misrepresenting and screwing up everything the man created. And they do all of this while calling him a racist scumbag.
As Razor said "gatekeep the gatekeepers." They trash everything good in this world. Entering established, beloved IPs communities - to then tell them how their hobby, TV series, or books in this case, are to be enjoyed or what the creator meant and so on. They have no creativity of their own so they latch onto already crafted works. Like leeches. I haven't read the books. Loved the LOTR Trilogy though. I have friends who are massive fans of "The Man" (he's a literary god in their eye's and I can see why), who have read the books 10 times over and have not one bad thing to say. Not one. Gatekeep what you enjoy before the snakes slither through the gate. God. Fucking Speed!
Damn, the Rageaholic still doesn't have a million subscribers? Can we please hit that like button a few more times so this channel gets the views it deserves, so that Gaming Journalism gets the critique it deserves?
Great game. Just incredible. Funny story, in the kinda early days of eBay (for a young kid + Australia) my friend bought a copy from the Bay and it was in a case... Just with a white, blank disc. So funny. It was 60 AUD too. So a lot for a young Buck.
The worst part of this game is that had they remained faithful to lore, not stolen code, and not have felt/been required to sign on for every modern trend in the AAA industry, they could have made a really good Thief style stealth game. I would think Mordor would be the perfect setting for a Lord of the Rings stealth game of that style because of how dark it is. Yes, I know this review is almost 6 years old.
Yeah, that was one difficult button to push. Twice. Within the prohibitively brief time window of 3 entire hours. Thinking of devoting a chapter of my memoirs to it.
geekgreek427 Because the code is not plagiarism material. If a game can be acused of such, just because it uses the same mechanics we are into dark waters, bud. Every FPS will be a Wolfenstein/Doom clone. The cover system will have to pay money for one obscure game called Winback. Open world games with crime will all be GTA clone. You see the problem? Gaming is a trending business, which I might add that creativity does not count. People have been doing this for so long that developers can't remember. This does not excuse Monolith of their sins.
Wait, what? "Shadow" is ripping off AC code? Ok, now I'm really confused. In the run-up to this game's release, I could've sworn that they actually said "Shadow Of Mordor" was BUILT WITH licenced Assassin's Creed base technology. Did I hallucinate this?
+JoeyEchoLawrence - Apparently so. Assassin's Creed is owned by a completely different company. (Ubisoft) Shadow of Mordor is made by WB Interactive. They didn't swap code.
+Michael Cardi - They didn't execute a 'concept'. They STOLE ANIMATION CODE. There's a difference. Dennis Miller did the angry ranting *_after_* George Carlin and Lenny Bruce, but he made it his own, with his own punchlines. Shadow of Mordor is more akin to Carlos Mencia or Dane Cook. Stealing other peoples' material and becoming financially successful for it.
+The Rageaholic It's sad to see this coming from what was once one of my favorite video game companies of all time. Alas, if it's plagiarism, it's plagiarism. At least I can still shout praise for Blackpowder games. Monolith seems to have lost all of its crazy idea making since those people left. Sure, olden-days Monolith have taken ideas from other games before (No One Lives Forever shows rather obvious influence from Goldeneye 007) but they still made the game distinctly theirs (drawing parallels to your Dennis Miller explanation). Now, they are just flat out stealing code. Thank you, Razorfist, for preventing me from making a blind fanboy decision. P.S. On an vaguely related note, I would like to know your thoughts on Betrayer since it is currently one of my favorite horror games of all time.
When I came back to the game the day after I finished it, it became basically unplayable. All of the orcs were the same ridiculously powerful demigods I had accrued over the time spent playing, but literally all of my own abilities were gone, including ones you get from story missions I couldn't replay. The world was in an endgame state and Talion was prologue level, meaning trying to fight off the two orc warlords who are invulnerable to stealth, ranged attacks, combat finishers, mount attacks, and enraged by literally everything, having poisoned weapons, having no mercy and the ability to throw me around like a ragdoll whenever they want, accompanied by their posses and the already present horde of orc grunts, was virtually impossible.
SpookyKid94 i bought it at launch and didn't have any issues with FPS. I wonder if maybe you run AMD and it had some issues on AMD hardware. idk devs are known to shit on AMD.
MarioTGP not shitting on PS4. I have a PS4 and its a great system I just chose to play this game on PC. He made a statement saying it in general ran and looked like shit. That was not the case for me when i played it on PC.
Kev West - Gaming Nah 4gb 770 with a intel cpu as well It had something to do with the textures, at first I couldn't handle high settings, then I could suddenly play on ultra.
SpookyKid94 did you have the same problem when you turned the textures down? A lot of people on PC cry foul when they cant max a game out but it would run better if they turned the settings down. I have a 970 4770 build I totally understand wanting to get everything out of a power house rig but if it can play at the lower settings then maybe the game is just more demanding then we would like it to be.
You speak the truth but I still found this game to be one of the better ones I played in 2014. Maybe that says a lot about how bad that year was for gaming.
You make a boatload of excellent points. What passes for innovation and amazingly original content in today's games is adding ANY small tidbit of originality to what is otherwise a retread. Wake me up when someone writes the next System Shock.
I don't listen to music often, but I had to hear the rest of "For All Those who Died" after hearing that scream and that riff. Very much worth it. Also your review was funny and informative.
War in the North is basically Dragon Age Origin, Lord of the Rings Conquest is StarWars Battlefront (the Pandemic version) and yep Shadow of Mordor is AC II
Hahaha! You Sir are a true talent, for some reason even if I completely disagree with your critiques on some of your videos I can't seem stop listening to you! As much as I liked listening to you ball busting this game I have to say I really enjoyed Shadow Mordor and I can't wait for the next one! Well at least I hope they're making another one!
The only LOTR video game that was good was the turn-based rpg "The Third Age." What made it great was the cast of original characters who mirrored the fellowship. There was something awesome about traversing the lower levels of Moria, overhearing the fellowship bicker, and then join forces with Gandalf to fight the balrog and the bridge of Khazad-Dhum.
The books are written from the view point of normal people. Tolkien knew, as many writers do, that the main character observing greatness translates better on the page than them being great themselves. But this is a game and so, apparently, you need to have some innate super powers to make it fun. But flashing around as an indestructible, mind bending super hero doesn't have the feel that Tolkien wanted for his universe.
When i saw the Shadow of Mordor psoter in your last episode, I thought "Wow this guy must really like the game" after watching the review though....I can't tell if you actually do. If Monolith actually had stolen from Ubisoft then I'd expect lawsuits and such. But anyway, I fell in LOVE with this game, it's actually the game that finally convinced me to get a PS4 and I spent damn good 12 hours killing captains and freeing slaves before I ever gave a shit about the story mode
I'm gonna say my piece on Lord of the Rings Online briefly: I bailed on that sinking ship around the time the game decided it was time to teach me and I quote...... "how to door"
I don't think Realism in games is at any point copyrightable, just as much as any, standalone, everyday word should not be. Every human being has the potential to climb, jump from heights, and to quickly counter in fights. Simply because one set of people implemented this in a game, that doesn't give them exclusivity (I certainly do appreciate them for doing so, in any case). As is mentioned, adding the in questioned features did not subtract from the entertainment value of the gameplay.
Wow I actually didn't know about that assassin's creed 2 stuff. I thought it looked familiar to assassins creed but I couldn't really put my finger on which one and I thought it was just a subtle rip off, but now that I think of it, it really does look identical to 2. Man that is a huge bummer.
It's a bad clone of FF10 with characters that aren't up to the standard of LOTR and gameplay that isn't up to the standard of Final Fantasy. Shitsux, yo.
Valid points. I just never got into FF, my friends did , I just liked the story, not the gameplay. I guess because I am such a huge LOTR fan, I gave it a pass on it's flaws. It did however get me into RPG games, so there's that. Thanks for replying. You're my favorite RU-vidr.
Have zero interest in this game. The only good Lord of the Rings games were on PS2. The Two Towers was my personal favorite. Return of the King was good also.
I don't see how you had such trouble getting high combo scores. I regularly jogged into encampments and got 100+ combos enjoying the visceral moments of orc heads rolling around on the ground.
On the subject of the ending, let's assume that I'd make an Elder Scrolls-like game, so much so that some people may accuse this game of being such a blatant clone. However, I'd make this game because I wanted to fix of add various parts to make the game better. The reason why I bring this up is that several people have stated that Shadow of Mordor is the greatest Assassin's Creed game in a long time. The jokey aspect is fairly obvious, but the point is that if the original isn't up to snuff, then something else like it with its own perks is going to swoop down and take the nest. And if I can't improve the game without being accused of plagiarism, then what gives?
