SHANE DAWSON REALLY MESSED UP 

a TEENAGER! like I wonder if any of them privately tried address James before simply exposing him. Yes he was a definitely a different person back than but nonetheless a teenager. Ion know something just doesn’t feel right about them exposing him

Yesss where was the docuseries on James since all three of the most problematic people had their own! Shane gave the audience to see both sides but with James it was whole different story

YES!! Couldn’t have said it better!! This is flat out disgusting.

YUP

Not to mention Trisha too! 😂😂

This 😂💯

YES ugh the whole question thing was a way for him to control the narrative and answer questions in the way that he felt put him in as good a light as possible. I'm sick of him

"interviewing himself" LMFAOOOOOOO

Omfg I swear, it reminded me of when Jeffree has that interview with Chris Handsen. Like Shane get to the damn point

This question thing is something I remember Jeffree does a lot, I think. Kinda fishy...

abiird he really should have stuck to not posting, at all.

Food videos, squad videos, horror/conspiracy, diy, reviews... but the whole series stuff? It was good but problematic. He should have never done the palette. He got greedy and wanted to pretend he was a beauty guru to put out a palette and get rich. Eventually the whole world was going to see right through that.

He got real over ambitious ab the power and influence he wielded but now that’s reduced to rubble .

His horror was good but as soon as you go into the beauty world with Jeffrey star it's impossible to get out 😂😂

yeah for real, i miss when he went to haunted locations with the squad, traveled, ate different foods, and made conspiracy theory videos. he needs to go back as soon as possible.

Ik I feel so bad for James because I personally love him, and I used to watch Shane so much but after hearing this, I’m shocked😐

TheBrownskinBrat me too..

Somehow the slice of humble pie was sexual predator allegations

period !

Wait what did he accuse him of?

Shane wasn’t saying “he deserved to be called a predator. That’s humbling.” He was saying “its terrible what happened but it’s good that James learned that he’s not indestructible.”

Quentin Delaney he could have been more mature and addressed that to his face.

Quentin Delaney It seemed like he was praising it tbh. The comments he made about Tatis video of lies seemed quite encouraging.

Quentin Delaney look kid you really need to stop being so blind he is a 30 something year old grown ass men that accused a Child of a serius crime that could have cost him more than just his career and the only shit that they know to say about the accusation is that “someone told him about it” that sounds to me like something you would make up when you are lying and now that he is receiving backlash how convenient to put it all in anxiety and depression and you really need to wake up and stop excusing his actions and babying him like if he some kind of victim without a brain he was very conscious of his actions he knows what he did he just playing the white dove becase he knows that there are pepole like you that belive every shit that he say and when he say something that show his true colors y’all would just twisted to make him seem as a inocent child

@@morgankay2471 ignorance is a bliss huh?

THIS

This. He doesn’t like James’ ego but is ok with Jeffree’s. So messy.

Exactly!!!!!

💯💯💯

I know! Its like if we treat something that is clearly wrong and messed up like normal because it happens a lot, it isn't going to get better. It will further encourage it. And just because something happens often doesn't mean it's "right".

I hate it when people use mental disorders as an excuse OWN👏🏾 UP 👏🏾 TO 👏🏾 WHAT 👏🏾 YOU 👏🏾 DID

random person my dad has a Ph.D. is psychology and he says that someone with a mental disorder can use it to explain their actions but they can't use it to protect themselves from the consequences (only in very rare situations) and can't use it to excuse their actions

@@randomperson-uy7kc Mental health is not an excuse, but it is a valid explanation. It is immoral to discount someone's side of the story when they bring their mental state into question because you simply don't understand. Not saying Shane is innocent, but he is still a person with his own issues that are not diminished because someone else is hurting more (James). Have compassion for EVERYONE. The world needs it right now.

Shane didn’t do anything wrong.

Merui i- what-

and plus he learned from the mistakes and realized who he needed to cut out of his life and what he had to say around people. so many people could be so sweet to him and then take something he said and twist it.

Exactly. He was barely as bad as they were. Their acting as if they arent the ones who made serious allegations

We have different definitions of morals

Yeah man. All these adults attacking a teenager is not cool. Seriously...😑

James has morals and treats people with kindness. He is not malicious. And I was not a James stan. I actually was a bigger Jeffree fan. I have lost all respect for Jeffree.

YESSS. jeffree was “never doing this again” and yet he was talking about the shit almost a year later in a podcast with KEEMSTAR

pissy virgo James cleared up everything so well in his no more lies video that he never had to address it again and was able to move on. Since then he’s done so many amazing collabs and even had his own RU-vid series which turned out so well. On the other hand, here are Jeffree and Shane who can’t stop talking about the situation

Anahita Singh periodtttt

He took a long break from social media which is what they all need to do too

@@kole1304 be good to see if rich lux and nick snider still diss and talk shit about james show after this. They were still dragging it last week

Preach it, sis. Jeffree could literally murder an entire family and people will just say, "He's just being Jeffree."

luv, it ain’t just men, it be very tiktoker, Trisha, Tana, Jeffree, so basically every egotistical bitch who walks on this earth- oops but pop of qweeeennnn

I mean every tehe, I’m so quirky

EXACTLY

It’s also weird that “Jeffree is Jeffree” is an excuse for his big ego but apparently “James is James” is not an equally valid one?

Who's Morgan?

marishkaspirit Ryland’s RU-vidr sister is Morgan Adams, Ryland is Shane’s fiancé.

Does sound kind of like her, but I don't think there's any way she'd bash Shane...

I was just thinking that, and then I saw your comment. That’s one conspiracy theory that Shane won’t cover 😶

i think that’s a funny idea since it would be like she is going to shane, getting the inside gossip and then filling us all in lmao but she is a good person so i don’t think she would do that 😂

To put it more far I dont even think James is narcissistic. It sucks how Shane is defending the someone worst than James...

That makes sense 🙄

I think that many of that came from envy

Blake1720 FACT IS they had no right to decide how he should’ve been “HuMbLeD”

For real!!! Like bullying an 19 year old over the internet, supporting an actual predator (Dahvie Vanity) and generally acting like a 13 year old despite being a 30 year old man isn’t a quirky personality trait for you to excuse, Shane :\

YES

exactly what i was thinking

THIS IS THE ONE

YIKES

You took the words right out of my mouth

Muh mental health

I was looking for this comment!!!

Thank you!!! Same

But when “james is james” it’s suddenly a problem

@Elisa Castro men have said this as a defense for sexual assualy and rape in the past so dont know what youre talking about

Elisa Castro yeah ur blind

I_WANT_SOME_TAMALES 19 PERIODT

Yup

Nah, Jeffree was because "hE wAs In A dArK pLaCe"🥴. He uses that excuse to play the victim card😒 James deserves better

IKR, jeffree is acting like this is high school, he is like 30 and he shaming a 20 yr old, he really needs to get his life together anyways chile, BLM!!

Same

LITERALLY

Bruh every time he says “anxiety” just replace it with scared bc he’s a coward

THIS I-

32 and 34 to be exact.

olivia lina this 👌🏾

This is my favorite comment

Amén

I love this comment

They needed Gordon Ramsey to be the manager of that bakery

What exactly did James Charles do to “deserve it” he was literally 19 when all that happened

He did deserve it. He shouldn't have said or done things he said + did and it doesn't matter he was 18-19.

Miglė Stuinaite he didn’t deserve it. None of what he did qualified him as a sexual predator. At all. He hit on guys and and was sexually forward. Big fucking deal.

@@herewegoagain6701 saying someone deserved to be driven to suicide is messed up, dude. You have to remember that he was being picked on by 3 30 yr olds at only 19 by Tati who was his mentor and that said "he was like a son to me..." then backstabbed him publicly based on LIES and tried to ruin his career. By the way, the frontal cortex isn't fully developed until you turn 25; which helps in decision making, personality expression, and moderating social behaviour. Tati, Jeffree, and Shane were PAST that point.

Miglė Stuinaite so he deserved to almost commit suicide because of proven FALSE allegations? you’re sick

Ikr it’s was really toxic

But at the sametime he has no invalvment. 🤯

But we can't blindly believe anyone here.... C'mon who doesn't know how James has always been?? I know he is a better person now, but it's just because of drama he got on to the right path.

WE ALL SPREAD HATE. Let’s hold ourselves accountable first.

False accusations? Charles literally admitted to everything on his apology video

Right

People need to continue to call Shane out on his words and not just let this sh*t slip and suddenly forgive him after he makes his own apology video.

Shane: Does that mean we should see James as an angel no. Also Shane: But I’m an angel. Okay jen

Agreed

literally

Frr. I’m sorry but they shaded are ugly. I’m glad I never spent my money on them both🤮

Shades*

Dianne talking shit isn’t going to do anything to fix the problem💀

it really felt like it was the best thing to happen last year not gonna lie. it was huge and I didn't even get the pallet because I didn't have the money but it really was a huge deal last year

@Pomegranate That's all that matters I guess. He can quit now

😂

Then they’ll say “this was the BEST way to reach you”

I agree with you. I find James annoying as all get out but he did not deserve to be treated that way. And Jeffree with his whole “I have receipts” I was not surprised when he it turned out to be a big good egg. If he had receipts, he would have shown them so fast 💨 but Jeffree doesn’t have clean hands at all. In fact wasn’t James hanging around with Jeffree when Jeffree used to say/do all the things he accused James of saying/doing when it came to straight men. Pul-ease.

They clearly discussed posting a video to expose him to views and clout.

Well yeah Shane too sensitive 🙄

Right? 3 adults going after a kid.

THE VOLUME INSIDE OF THIS BUS IS ASTRONOMICAL!!!!!

FR!!

FarnazIransoul this is not a thing. Please don’t normalize other types of biases against people with mental health issues.

There’s no such thing as a “mental health card” you can’t play it when things get to someone a lot mental health is something that you have to deal with as well and for someone who struggles with that it’s a lot harder then for normal people 🤦🏼‍♀️

im pretty sure thats not what he meant. shane isnt that kind of person.

@@melissak52 isn't he? anyone that uses the phrase "a big slice of humble pie" is exactly that person

Melissa Kane he told u that personally? u buddies with shane and know him?

@melissa kane do you know him? personally? stop defending someone when their actions speak for themselves. accountability ffs *edit: accidentally replied to the wrong persons comment

he never said that though. tati did. that’s what i don’t understand.

So was jeffree. Jeffree was the weird kid no one liked and everyone was rude to and called him a f** every day of his life bullied him and made his life miserable. I get it that now he gets to run shit and it’s probably an amazing and intoxicating feeling. Now everyone is terrified to cross him, and if anyone ever does they suffer. I don’t blame him though, i can understand how it could be easy to fall into and hard to leave. As someone who was fat and ugly and bullied in high school also, i can’t say part of me wouldn’t want this same “vengeance” if i could get it. Just being honest.

@@blairwaldorf-bass8180 every word you just said is a fact

you’re so right dude

@Blair Waldorf-Bass...you probably already know better...but I just want to remind you never let the vengeance manifest. You’re by a mile better than all those who bullied you.

@@blairwaldorf-bass8180 he was probably bullied in the normal community but within his own community he has always been popular. You'd think a full grown adult would have more common sense or get help so they aren't like this. Side note. Good for you for understanding it's bad to vengeful. Everyone could use a little therapy to help smooth out the bumps in their life's. Hopefully you can get some and your life becomes more blissful

I was thinking the SAME THING!!

I think Ryland did.

"Did Jeffree write this novel for me? Yes."

Shane could never. I disagree with all these people who are talking shit about him in these comments. But I really think Jeffree wrote this.

@@herewegoagain6701 shane still published it

Agreed!!!

PERIOD

His mentality is so yuck. Stating James NEEDED humble pie the size of the Empire State Building? Gross how he decides who needs to be served this humble pie and who doesn’t and that he gets to be the one serving it.

And people will excuse his racist actions because he's just being Jeffrey, not today hun

Then, when James slipped up people spent SO much energy cancelling him, WHERE'S that same energy once Jeffrey does it? (again..)

same. (i love ur pfp)

@@kole1304 we all luv melanie💛💛

I didn’t like that either

I'm very confused... what's the drama here? I thought James did shitty things and tati made the video. I'm confused lol

B you should go watch “no more lies” from James channel. None of the claims Tati said were true or had any proof at all. And well...Shane and Jeffree had a bit part of all the bullying that went down its a very long story 😂

Can you explain me why everyone says that Trisha is toxic? I just that I dunno her but everyone talks about her, so I'm curious now. 😂😅

@@arcanexystOne drama I know is she pretended to have DID, a mental disorder formed from repeated trauma in childhood/ before the age of 7-9. Those with DID have altars, who are like different people who share the same body. (I suggest watching DissociaDID for more info) Trisha pretended to have DID for attention, spreading misinformation and shading Anthony Padilla and Nin (host) from DissociaDID. Trish affected many in the DID community in a negative way, triggering PTSD of past abuse with all her yelling, cursing, and aggressive behavior (ex. lunging at the camera, suggesting shes trying to hit the viewer) in a video addressing her drama(I think its called Dear Anthony Padilla?). Then when DID wasn't talked about as much, she dropped her whole act. She prolly did worse tbh👀 I apologize if I missed any points :)

@@melodtm Wow, thank you. Those are serious things, now I understand why everyone (almost) hates her, I know is just one point but those are the type of things that people shouldn't mess with. Btw, love ur profile pic ;D

They can get in trouble for calling someone a Preditor if it’s a lie

19 is technically an adult..but it’s still wrong to ruin his life. He was still younger than them and instead on sitting down like grown ups and teaching him properly...they do this.

Miranda Miller Yeah but he just turned into an adult. While the rest of them have been adults and have experienced adult life WAY longer then James. He was still just a teenager. He couldn’t even drink yet. They could have taught him, sure, or let him learn on his own. Which they pretty much did. There was truly no need to teach James a lesson, he was fine, sure egotistical but what teenager isn’t?

Miranda Miller considering they both were saying the n word and shane was doing blackface and making problematic jokes when they were older than james I wouldn't trust a guy who joked about r*ping kids to tell me about humbleness james was a teen while ppl twice his age accused him of being a predator with no proof bc they were jealous and there is that

Especially cause Jeffree posted revenge porn of straight men to his ex-friend's site with proof

Tariq Mahmood imagine how it feels tho, must hurt a lot, I don’t even like him but I feel bad for him

even if he did react or talk about it he’d still be more mature and lowkey I’d wanna hear if there’s anything else he wants to say.

And the fact that he’s the youngest out of all of them

@@korishea he is not giving a shit about them he is only enjoying his new house.

he’s chilling, but i feel bad for him

SAme dude

Honestly I havent ever liked him because of his offensive videos

And he made the Jeffree series videos unnecessary long lmao, smh. Bring back Garett and Drew, I wouldn't give up an hour watching a racist gay man lol.

think it’s time to change your username haha

i wanna know what happened to drew and garrett honestly

I HATE when people do that. Don’t talk about your mental health only to destroy someone else’s

For someone who claims to be an ‘empath’ he really doesn’t act the part :/

At this point I'm questioning the anxiety and depression...

In defence I really couldn't care about the drama because it doesn't change my opinion because I'm personally don't like Jeffree as a person and creator anyway. But that's another matter however. As someone who's been though suicide more then once and been at the bunt of friends who lied about feeling suicidal and did it for attention. Not saying anyone in this situation did. But you don't want to hold people hand though it become its upsetting because you don't want people to be in that situation. You want to avoid it because in a senses you've crawled your way out of that pit for some by yourself and like me if you did have to and still do battle it you don't want to help people. Call it selfish by all means but I'd call it protecting yourself. I don't condone pushing someone to it but I've had it nobody cares so you know just saying people will deal with it differently but In my opinion Shane's Mental health shouldn't be held against him in any situation because its pointless because everyone deals with it so it's a bit low to say he's said his is bad and he pushed someone to do it because unless you've been suicidal and tried and failed then you can't comment and if you have I'm sorry i honestly hope your okay or doing okay but like I said if not you can't say because you don't know what it's like one way or another

He's like that ex that broke up with you and manipulates you into thinking that what they did was right by saying that their mental health is not good

PERIODDDD

Jake paul* and he called Jake Paul his family too during the series and after it. He's so fake

If you watch the video Shane and Ryland do with him James you can tell how much he hates him.. he can’t hide it

I've always liked Shane but I've always said everyone in his inner circle is verry problematic and it's only a matter of time before it bites him back

James also needed a humble pie back then BUT NOT THE PREDATOR ACCUSATIONS. They chose "let's ruin this person's life" over saying to james "sit down and be humble." Those people are disgusting. Very hypocritical. If jeffree does it, he's unbothered, if james allegedly does something way less than jeffree 's drama, he wants to serve a humble pie?! Wtf

I completely agree with you. I don’t believe that what Shane did was right, but so many other people have made mistakes like this. There are youtubers that have a career because they are snarky and arrogant. Shane should not be involved in this drama. Once again, I’m not saying that he was in the right, but I will continue to support him and follow him throughout his career.

Bold of you to think Shane was a good person before he met jeffree

"We"? I stan him don't make it all of us just because you said so.

We?

SCREAMING

this is my favorite comment

Tomas Gray 20’s....? Nope, they’re in their 30’s and Tati is almost 40

True tho

Kylie Vazquez they’re referring to how Jefree and Shane when they were in their twenties they were doing blackface (not their current age)

Yeah his old videos say it all

Also, a sensitive and empathetic person wouldn’t act like that in general or towards a teenager

He wasn’t very sensitive when he was doing blackface

periodt luv 💅🏾

Well said.

If he can get all the tweets and videos together I think he’d have a good chance. They all live in the same state, right? Even better.

I'm not a game Charles fan but he should since he deserves Justice over those life destroying accusations.

I would love to see that but I doubt James will. Even after all of this I remember in his video him saying that he still has love for them and always will. Which is honestly heartbreaking knowing what they tried to do to him.

preach!

At this point, I don’t think James needs receipts to defend himself anymore. Heck, he doesn’t even need to defend himself anymore

RIGHT! I think in his mind he's actually a RU-vid therapist...

Really he’s better because he doesn’t have them anymore. They were holding him back clearly

i get what you’re saying but i think he meant it was more of a wake up call for james. if that scandal never happened i feel like james would never learn

@@isapink555 I think there were other ways they could've given James a wake-up call, but they decided to take the asshole route. Both of them are terrible and James certainly did not deserve any of that bs.

Woah you’re so right.

lmfaooo my thoughts exactly. he acknowledges how Jeffree is one of those toxic gurus, yet still continues to associate with him 💀

Jeff made him richer

He definitely wants Jeffree’s friendship for the social power of it

Jeffrey made him a multimillionaire! 💰

kaboomdynamite Because they are actually one in the same.

James charles stayed quiet because he's doesnt want to touch the situation that almost made him commit suicide and had the whole world turned against him. Thats not maturity he just knows not to jump in rn. Shane has also acknowledged that James was mature in the tweet. But all of you are too busy getting mad at shane for suggesting that he deserved to be called a predator. Here's the thing tho: SHANE NEVER SAID THAT. Shane even said Tati went too far when she released the video. Yall need to stop acting like Sheeple and read the damn tweets. Stop allowing the drama channel to tell you what to think.

because he hired a new pr team? lmao i swear you idiots love to act like jc isn't just as problematic as any of these other attention seeking "influencers" who thrive on drama

I hope James and Tati continue to stay quiet to prove they have learned about drama.

Sky Blue shes “exposing” that james has matured. I’m sure he could come out and explain more of what happened behind the scenes but he decided not to so stfu thanks

Sky Blue girl we get it you’re a Shane stan and lick the ground he walks on relax

LMAOAOAO

Bobby did all that himself

Don't forget Onision

@@jasper8961 He brought Bobby out to LA with the opportunity of being a regular on his show. Then because his "Audience" didn't like it, he cut him out. What is your perspective on it?

@@sylviaishanee5377 that's a weird one. Onision was a flat out jerk. He antagonized Shane over weight and such. So I don't know if I could blame him on that drama, but then again.. The cat situation.

Frank Ward cat situation ? it was a joke .

Shane never accused James of this and specifically said that Tati did too much.

EXACTLY, I just posted a similar comment. It pissed me off

The humble pie comment was a direct quote from James Charles last year. Calm down

Also what does his ego have to do with anything??? I thought this was all about him being a supposed predator?? It seems like he already didn’t like James to begin with (I imagine he was jealous) which makes me tend to believe the rumours that he was talking shit with Jeffree before the “bye sister” video

Ka Dz Shane also said he believes a lot of what Tati said in her video. He doesn’t say what parts that she said he believes. So it leaves it open for speculation that Shane COULD still believe the allegations against James about being a predator. Shane should outright state what he believes and doesn’t. Because by being vague it makes him look bad. Period. And I am a longtime fan of Shane who is disappointed and saddened by ALL of this. His actions and lack of are NOT ok.

Lol. Like a politician. He wasn't even trying this time. He thinks his carefully cultivated persona of a vulnerable and insecure empath is going to work again, but he was wrong. No matter how effective he is at playing the victim, his actions will speak louder than his words.

Frr

Haha, ikr, it feels like we're in a Disney Channel show.

Shane has become like that too. mostly because he surrounded himself with people like Jeffree. I’m tired of it

Shane is 100% those people he’s-calling out lol he’s just not conventionally attractive.

Yes! It’s so true! Shane and Jeffrey have a god complex. It was so obvious in Shane when he made the documentary about tanacon...he decided that he liked her so he painted her as a victim and “saved” her from public hate

It is true,, even if James was deserving, who says its up to others to do anything about it? I think both jeffree and Shane have bounced back from so much controversy and have been around for so long, that they think they are above others in the community - they think they will be able to get away with their shenanigans like always! It’s time to show them that the every one is human, nobody is above being held accountable for anything. Who needs the humble pie now?

It gives me "they shouldn't have been drinking" or "it was (the victims) fault" vibes

It still feels like Shane thinks James needed this to happen to him which is WILD. I do think this whole thing was maybe a blessing in disguise for James because he realised that Jeffree, Shane, Tati and others aren’t good friends for him and now he’s thriving with genuine good friends, and he has probably humbled too, but HE DID NOT DESERVE THAT. He was 19 years old and was reduced to being suicidal! I’m saying right now I would have killed myself if that had happened to me. And what if it had gone that way? I genuinely believe Jeffree wouldn’t actually care, he’s deadass a sociopath. Fuck Shane and Jeffree.

what did shane do???

Because Julien is the king to queen Jenna, with their beautiful idiot children Marble, Cermet, Paesh and Horse.

Crazy how Jenna just left too... :’(

And now jenna has left youtube.

I never thought I would feel bad for james but the way Jeffrey and Shane were treating him is AWFUL

@@Nobody-wc2qi fr, he was just a kid, both of them have used the excuse of being young and dumb when defending their racist past, yet James can't be allowed to be a little egotistical? he would've been humbled in time, what they did was disgusting

Ikr. It's disgusting.

letmebeyourzoomer i swear u can go to jail for that james should SUE

exactly!! cause those kind of accusations aren’t extremely damaging to 1. someone’s mental health and 2. extremely damaging to people who experienced sexual assault and not being believed. all these grown ass people came together to attack a teenager. it’s so nasty.

Alexa Arias not really true lol a lot of the times he owns up to his bs and agrees he was stupid . I’m not mad at him for standing up for himself . People love to bring old shit up . There’s a fucking BLM movement and half of you are so wrapped up in petty middle school drama you’re taking away from the shit that MATTERS.

@@seriialchiiller5406 but you're here too....

xserialchiller xx people have a right to be made at the past. The racist things he did {black face, n-word} aren’t yours to forgive if your not black. The half hearted apology he did was for the black people. He also uses anxiety as a way out for his mistakes which is stupid. Though i do agree that for the BLM movement their are more important things in REAL life time that are more important. Peoples lives are being affected and America is split in two. ps: I like your profile photo

xserialchiller xx yet you’re here?

xserialchiller xx also how is it petty middle school drama? He helped accuse someone of being a predator.

So right aaaaa

I have a family member that does that

has the same energy as "Sorry, i can't help it, I'm a Scorpio"

g LMFAO THOSE ZODIAC GIRLS/BOYS/OTHERS I think zodiac stuff is fun- but like don't live by it hahahaha

Unless you have mental health you would never understand

exactlyyy

Criticism? This is not valid at all. You are all blind if yoi think James' is actually innocent. Pf

@@LL-wu5ui it's been 1 year and I'm still her waiting for some evidence. Pls enlighten me with the evidence James isn't innocent

Didn’t Zachary Quinto say the same thing?

Frida Carla how is he guilty? Where is your proof?? Because Jeffree still hasn’t provided any, non of them for that matter. Your all blind to think he isn’t innocent 🌝

He clearly had nothing better to say, but couldn't avoid ignoring it for much longer. The result was that pathetic response. He came off as someone who thinks he's above pettiness and drama and played the victim, as per usual. He even brought up anxiety and health issues, as always, because it makes him appear vulnerable and relatable. Playing the victim is the best way to avoid criticism. It's very manipulative.

Shane wasn’t saying “he deserved to be called a predator. That’s humbling.” He was saying “its terrible what happened but it’s good that James learned that he’s not indestructible.”

I mean humbling someone “you ain’t all that” vs “you are a PREdaT0r” hmmm 🧐

This statement of his has caused me to lose all respect for him. And I’ve been a fan of his since I was about 14 and I’m 22 now.

@@morgankay2471 I hope u stop defending him aka shane he doesnt deserve it I've been his loyal fan of 6 years since this week. So trust me I've seen a lot and know a lot and I gotta say what ppl say isnt wrong. I used to be like we all make mistakes but then realized its repeating issue with them two mostly jeffree so imma just say hope he gets humbled...no both him and jeffree as james was falsely accused and ridiculed for things he didnt do. Hes not perfect either but again you know he was a kid when shit came out from years ago and ik me being 16 I didnt know much of anything about respect that I do now. Anyways I'll end this thingy by saying when jeffree and shane fucked up ever they were as old as james if not older by then they shouldnt be acting like children and hiding from there mistakes.

but he did what jeffree did and make this sick DUO

Isn’t that what being in the beauty community means?

Nah, you can do only 5 looks and release a palette, but as long as you're in drama, do some makeup, and want to be in the beauty community, you in the community, lmao.

@MB are you saying men shouldnt be in the Drama community

MB go off sis

He's involved because he mirrors Jeffree. Jeffrees staff don't get involved in this shit because they keep their mouths closed and don't have an opinion on record Shane on the other hand will tweet and make drama series about Jeffrees current thoughts. I hate people like Jeffree who think they rule communities

This. THIS.

Not only will his actions and words put him in the spotlight, but people will always look over at him when people he associates with do something bad. The stuff being brought is significant. Being avoidant and/or leaving does not help at all.

Well you don't know everything that happens behind the scenes. You don't know the people who gossip to everyone including Shane because they can't keep their mouth shut. You don't know how many youtubers who were never seen with shane on social media dm constantly back and forth with him. You don't know how many people purposely give shane tea about the beauty community because they know he's close with jeffree and will tell him. In some way they try to get to jeffree or they try to get tea back from shane about him (his friends) and jeffree. U don't know how deep Shane is in it. These tea/drama channels literally make a summaries of videos on the internet. It's hours of work but it's still not that deep. Still many drama/tea channels are invited to these famous youtubers lavish parties. Do you know how many of them are lowkey friends or families or how much they are involved with some of these famous youtubers ? No, again you don't know everything. Ps: I'm not defending Shane. I just think it is stupid when someone blatantly says that I never do sth about a situation when I'm not obligated to tell and show you everything that happens in my life. That's just a fact.

He’s giving me therewiredsoul vibes lol. Chris said the same shit about the drama community while previously stating he wasn’t apart of it. Shane is acting like he can leave the beauty community when I’m pretty sure he said before he didn’t consider himself apart of it. Smh.

yuri periodt 🙌😌

No, because Shane never accused him, Jeffree and Tatai did, also, you all are bat shit if you don't think James Charles had a huge ego and also made many problematic situations.

@@divaducks he is not saying that shane accused him he is saying calling the matter a piece of humble pie is ridiculous there is more ways to humble someone instead of watching them get accused of a criminal offense

divaducks I agree James had a huge ego. However, pushing him to the brink of suicide wasn’t the correct way. Shane never directly accused James. However, by saying he agrees with Tati is basically supporting the claims she made in her video. James definitely had a problem with his fame but it is a very serious thing to accuse someone of being a predator; especially without solid evidence. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

divaducks yes James was problematic but what they did was wrong and that’s including Shane. James has matured I can’t say that about the rest of them.

Jessica James attempted😭 this is so freaking sad, I would be the FIRST one saying JAMES DONT DO THIS! I LOVE YOU AND I CARE! YOU WILL MAKE IT THROUGH THIS! IVE FELT THE SAME WAY, ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS BATTLE!🥺🥺

EXACTLY. people were literally calling for him to be put in PRISON !!

If shane genuinely thought that James was a predator though he had good reason to push

@@stankatbarrell9878 There was and still is no proof James is a predator.

itsmaya someone he trusted as a source told him that this was the situation.

Waiting for someone to make a conspiracy video using Shane’s format

Doge from San Antonio haha yesss

Or he couldn’t handle the hate because it takes him to a dark place? It’s all a matter of perspective

Alana Pradhan yeah like how it took James into a dark place?

Alana Pradhan He can always turn on the light 💡

Where jeffree ends up being bumped by a car and eventuallt plays football? :D

Raven Lozo yessir

Why is this quote so accurate?

Raven Lozo you mean a bus*😍🥰😘

Who’s gonna be Cady

When actually he drove him to near suicide

But it’s okay, he was just humbling him by calling him a preditor

Alice May My my you have a bit of an ego? Don’t worry, I’ll bully you until you want to kermit sudoku, no need to thank me just doing ma job 😘

Right!?! How ironic

I don't even like James at all, but bro did Shane sound super condescending when he said that lmao.

exactly like you couldn't have handled it a better way? damn

19-year-old is not a kid.

@@LL-wu5ui not a kid but still a teen as in nine teen this is an almost 30 year old man

@@LL-wu5ui if you can't drink you're a kid

LL: yeah, but its still TERRIBLE that they did it to james. the age in this situation doesnt matter, no matter how old you are. if it happened to a 40-year-old woman, and she wanted to commit, it would still be the same issue.

Mia Bolland lmao same ive unsub to both if his channel. I’ll subbed to him back once he made ammends, if he ever did. There’s a lot of good youtubers with small followings like Tippy and Macdoesit that are actual good human beings with great humor! Ain’t nobody got time to support those negative ass youtubers😂

YESSS he’s like ahh this is gonna give me health problems and anxiety but does this stuff to James like wtf?????

yep”empath” my ass

EXACTLY. He still read james to filth in this ugly statement.. yet he gave jeffree the fucking pass YET AGAIN simply because “he’s jeffree” ... oh and essentially called tati “that bitch” for popping off in her bye sister video.. disgusting

holly c did you not see how toxic he was before? He’s better now. That’s why.

James is the one being sensitive and having a big ego.... not shane

Alyssa Ortiz shes my mom! Like, honestly when she made the apology video about the FISH SHE GOT? Holy shit. That was THE most genuine apology I have ever seen.

Dont jinx it...

I love Jenna and still don't understand how people tried to come after her because the fish video a while ago

@@deborahv.3402 What happened?

Déborah V. Jenna’s apology video about the fish thing was the most genuine apology I’ve ever seen on RU-vid