She is probably one of the big reasons why soooo many little girls wanted to become a gymnast after the 1996 Olympics. She's a legend in the sport and her grace, humility, artistry, determination, among other things are some of the reasons why people love her!! She lead the way for Carly, Nastia, Shawn, Gabby, Aly, Jordan, Simone, etc. Respect for this legend!!
@@andreataylor4483 that’s why she’s so awesome, because to look at her she always had a fragility about her, looked shy and demure but was definitely a fighter
she dodged a major bullet not having to go to that sh*tshow of an olympics, but yes, with her, they would have easily gotten bronze at least. what a disaster
They could have also used her leadership and competition focus. People usually forget that during compulsories, the Mag 7 almost fell apart. Bars was so-so, and beam was nearly a disaster. Kerri Strug was unusually shaky. Amanda Borden and Dominique Dawes had noticeable troubles. Jaycee Phelps fell. Shannon Miller was up next and showed what steely nerves looks like. Close to perfection. It seemed like the entire team let out the breath they’d been holding, and Moceanu was solid anchoring beam. They did well through the rest of compulsories. And then they Lit. It. Up. in team finals. ❤️
Her opening mount and dismount are gorgeous. Her wolf jumps are perfect. Not so many gymnasts can do a perfect one like hers. And her turns are the best. I've never seen her flinched on her turns. I'm quite sure she could have done triple turns perfectly if she had wanted to. She is one of my favorites of all time.❤
This lady is definitely one of my favourite Gymnasts.🎖️ She comes across as being a decent humble person also.💜 I sincerely hope that she is well...21 years on.👍 Sent from 🏴
Always liked Shannon. She was with her coach since age 8. I didn't know she tried out for the 2000 games. She will always be my favorite gymnast! So talented, so many medals.
@@2010hotmale2010 I think they’re right, this routine performed as intended would be a 9.9 I think? Pike and wolf jumps were Bs in this code, and combined with fronts (Ds) they got .2 in CV. So an E dismount would be the extra tenth she needed for a 10. But was she even training it?
Looking at the mess of the USA team in Sydney, it seems that Shannon could have contributed on beam and bars. Cleaning up a few things, and this could have been a great routine. Shannon does well with international judges due to her clean form.
Dustin Gabe Shannon was rock solid in team competitions. She did not have a reputation for errors under pressure. You want a hit set you put up Shannon Miller. Wrists, elbows, back, ankles-doesn’t matter. For the record, I’m not saying that is right but that’s the truth of that time period.
Dustin Gabe you’re assuming she will be doing these exact routines? I think they would have adjusted to work the code. But hey guess what??? We will never know because it was decades ago and Sydney gymnastics was unfortunately a flop.
She is a serious contender for an individual medal in the Olympics and she's showing difficulty she didn't have in her peak. If you count success by medals then yes, I have to agree, most gymnast are not as succesful at their 25 as they were when they were 17 (exept Chusovitina and Tweddle). But helping your team is a success as well. And after all is not only about the medals, the love for the sport and competitions is enough to keep someone competing
Amy Chow did the same thing I remember them saying back then she had only been in the gym like 2-3 months prior the olympic trials and she got on. Speaking of Amy she like Dawes, never got their dues, both very underrated gymnasts
Totally agree. Miller is the American Gymnast that everyone loves. She was so different from any other of her era, beautifully classical and stylish. What a star, and now has turned into a SUPERB commentator who should easily replace The evil NBC trio.
Miller 2000 trials BB front tuck mount (D) pike jump (B) switch leap ( C) back dive to hdstd w/ ¼ turn( C) front tuck (D)- wolfe jump (B) FF step out -(B) layout ( C) - layout (NV duplicate element ) Back dive to handstand w/ ¼ turn (NV duplicate element) Valdez (A) 1/1 turn (A) Sissone (A)- tuck jump (A) Round off(B)-double tuck(D) Value Parts (Chronological): A: valdez B: pike jump B: wolfe jump C: switch leap C: back dive to handstand w/ ¼ turn D: front tuck mount Special Requirements: Acrobatic series minimum two flight elements FF step out -(B) layout ( C) Gymnastics series of two elements Sissone (A)- tuck jump (A) One mixed gym/acro (no Group 4 or 5) switch leap ( C) back dive to hdstd w/ ¼ turn( C) One turn on one foot minimum 360° 1/1 turn (A) One gymnastics leap w/ large amplitude Sissone (A) One movement touching beam with torso Yes Dismount at least C, minimum D in EF. double tuck(D) Extra Ds/Es:(0.2) front tuck (D) double tuck(D) Connections:(0.7) front tuck (D)- pike jump (B) (0.2) switch leap ( C) back dive to hdstd w/ ¼ turn( C) (0.2) front tuck (D)- wolfe jump (B) (0.2) FF step out -(B) layout ( C) - layout (0.1) SV: 9.90 pts.
Shannon in my opinion was a strong letter to Syndey, she had a UB and BB routine that to be honest were incredible and she was a girl with too much elegance, I love her routines, without a doubt she would have contributed a lot to the United States team
@@2010hotmale2010Apparently Beam's start value was due to some composition issues she was not aware of. She probably had skills in her repertoire to fix that with proper consultation, and the full-in dismount would have helped in that respect. However, because she started the comeback somewhat late, the leg events fell behind a little too much (contributing to that vault injury). Would have made a nice pair with Atler, who could still do well on the leg events but had issues on Bars and Beam.
Basically there were huge problems with the routine construction... Even if they had received the credit they were looking for, From what I can tell, this still would have only had a start value of 9.9... Then when you factor the judges didnt credit "The Miller" move with what they were expecting, and throw in the huge balance check after the layout, 9.287 is a fair score. Basically Nunno was not good at understanding the Code of points. If he did his research, he would have found that shannon needed an additional D skill that doesn't count for bonus under this code... And there were Many other potential combinations She could have attempted to start from 10... I love Shannon And I know she is loyal to Nunno, But at this point in her career she needed different things out of a couch. She needed somebody to help strategize and work the code to build smarter routines...and she needed smarter training to avoid injuries... she waited too long to comeback. It was too late in the game at this competition to do any of these things.
I think Boguinskaya also made a comeback as well. She was absent for a couple years and returned back into top form by 96 making a splash at Europeans, qualifying for the 96 Olympics where she made the all around and vault finals. Had she stuck her second vault she would have medaled
It’s very challenging for female gymnasts to adapt their routines to their physical changes and to remain competitive. Shannon has a very different body here than she did in Atlanta, which was different from her childlike body in Barcelona.
That's true, Khorkina is the only all around medalist over 20 I can remember. There were others too, like Tourischeva but that was when gymnastics was a totally different sport. Hatch and Bhardwaj (one of my all time fav american gymnasts) are indeed rare examples, same goes to Tweddle but there are other cases as well. Zamolodchikova for example definately reached her peak at Sydney and she never had the 2000 success but she was a rock for the russian team when they didn't have lots of depth.
@Titannu Like I already said Chusovitina is not an all around gymast like Miller. She is only a vault specialist which is totally different. Actually in her prime she used to be a floor specialist too and a decent all arounder but she is not even close to either of those things anymore and hasnt for many years which only proves my point. Hatch the other oldie who made a successful comeback (for her) was also a vault specialist.
True. I got the impression with Miller she was dreaming of 1992-1996 level glory again and it was never going to happen. Then again I could be wrong and she was just hoping to help a weak U.S team. I forgot Beth Tweddle but she always kept competing so wasnt making a "comeback" at an older age per say. Khorkina did win AA silver in Athens but was a shadow of her old self, was lucky the field was super weak was probably overmarked due to name and robbed a more deserving gymnast.
I wonder if Shannon considered going to another coach when making this comeback. Just because its pretty remarkable how long she was with Nunno. Many gymnasts switch at some point
In her new autobiography, which im reading now, she says that she was only going to make a comeback if Steve Nunno would coach her. In fact, her husband at that time had to move to Houston for his med school residency, so it would have been easier on her marriage to train with a club in Houston.
+kras118 As smart she is/was, Miller had horrible judgment in sticking with Nunno. She won medals in spite of him, not because of him. His routine construction cost her even more success in 1995, 1996, and 2000. She should have never been struggling to find a consistent 10.0 SV on FX in the 96-00 COP even with injury limiting her available skills to choose from. The front double full in 1995 and double layout in 1996 were clearly never going to be consistent elements and were not worth the risk. And, the order of passes and several of the combinations he chose throughout that quad were asinine. Whip + BHS + Tuck Full-In; Rudi + BHS + LSO; Tuck Full-In; Whip 1/2 + Front Full + Front Tuck with D level dance elements (Cat Leap Double, Popa) would have been a safe, consistent routine using skills and combinations she had done, and done well. Meanwhile, she should have perfected one of the Phelps, 1.5TY, or DTY by Atlanta since she had been training them for 3+ years, and her UB routine should have never relied on a double layout for a 10 SV. In 2000, he failed her on VT and BB. It was evident from fall 1999 - Sydney team finals that these were the two weaknesses of team USA. A 1.5TY + Phelps would have been a great addition to the lineup, and while I realize her injury prevented her from training this event, it was clear she was maxing out at Hristakieva + FTY. I can only assume he was also under the false impression that her 2nd back dive 1/4 on beam was considered a back dive 1/4 + hop 1/1 pirouette to handstand, and in the COP as an E level skill, costing her .20 in SV on that event.
The judges were very stingy with Miller's beam performance here, in my opinion. The score they gave her was quite low for just that one balance check. The remainder of her routine was graceful, elegant and flawless. I think she should have had a 9.6.
She missed the front tuck mount + wolf jump combination (slight hesitation). Because of that the initial wolf jump counted as part of the "interior" of the routine rather than part of the mount. When she performed her front tuck + wolf jump combo later, she also missed that connection (again, slight hesitation... the judges were being brutal). It wouldn't have counted even if she made it: they wouldn't have factored in the second wolf jump. So that's already 4 tenths in connection bonus she missed. Plus the minor errors with the rest of the routine... Yeah... It was a fair score.
Routine was out of a 9.8 and the big wobble after the 2nd layout was at least a .4 deduction plus small hop on dismount .1th so she's down to a 9.3 already
I forget what exactly happened, but I recall nuno forgot about some rule and they omitted an element which caused her. 5 tenths. In hindsight it could have been fixed if she did another miller.
I totally agree with a lot of the other comments. Talk about being shaken up before competiting! ...that would unnerve any performance. I wanted Shannon at the olympics more than anything.
Umm, what she means is that Galiyeva's family was one of those relocated from Russia to Uzbekistan during the Stalin era to maintain Russian cultural dominance throughout the Soviet Union. That's what she means by saying that she was born is Uzbekistan but was ethnically Russian.
@gymnfanus19972000 actually true that is a good point. I guess she and Hatch are the only two gymnasts (atleast that I know of unless there are more) that returned after long retirements to do better than ever. Thanks for pointing that out. Still I think it would be almost impossible for an AA superstar to do so.
You can, because one is a mount described as a front tuck onto the beam (and described in the section with other mounts) and the other is just an acro skill already on the beam. But I don’t think she would have been able to repeat some of the dance elements like she did (é.g. The wolf jump)
@moopoo66 she was not really coming back since she was never retired. In 2000 she was coming back after almost 4 years off and 23 years old. It wasnt the same.
The score could be easily explained by someone simply looking at the Code of Points and calculating the SV, rather than making wild guesses. Front Tuck + Pike Jump = D + B = 0 (required D) + .20 CV (generous of the judges to count that skill as a pike jump considering how far she was from meeting the skill's requirements) Switch Leap + Back Dive 1/4 = C + C = .10 CV Front Tuck + Wolf Jump = D + B = .10 + .20 CV BHS + LSO + LSO = B + C + C = + .10 CV (lucky to have not received enough deductions to cost her the bonus entirely) Back Dive 1/4 + 1/2 Pirouette in Handstand = C = 0 (repeated element, not eligible for any bonus even if she had done this in combination) RO + Double Tuck = B + D = .10 + 0 CV (minimum of 3 elements required for a dismount series to earn bonus) SV = .20 from elements, .60 from connections = 9.80 SV Had Nunno read a COP and realized the "Miller" was not (and never has been) a real element and was thus considered a Back Dive 1/4, he could have easily found a substitution to get her SV to 10.0. 1) I would have changed the pike jump in the mount to a beat jump, sacrificing .10 in difficulty for the better execution. (9.70 SV) 2) Changing the switch leap to a straddle jump would have earned the same .10 CV, while leaving the switch leap open for a 2nd connection. (9.70 SV) 3) A switch leap + B level jump (Straddle 1/4, Split 1/4, Wolf 1/2...) would then earn an additional .10 in CV (9.80 SV) 4) A D level jump after the switch leap (Switch Side, Switch Side to prone, Shushunova 3/4, Wolf 3/4...) would have earned the entire .30 in bonus she would have needed (.10 for the D, .20 for the connection) (10.0 SV) Other options (some needing to be mixed or added to get the .20 missing) included: 1) Beat Jump + Shushunova 3/4 (.30 total bonus) 2) A RO + BHS + Double Back (.30 total bonus) 3) Switch Side to prone (.10 in bonus) 4) Wolf Jump 3/4 (.10 on bonus) 5) Front Aerial + Shushunova 1/4 (.10 in bonus) 6) Popa + Beat Jump (.30 total bonus)
Additionally, the deductions in the exercise include: 1) .05 - .10 for the leg position in the Pike Jump 2) .10 for the arm bends on the Back Dive 1/4 3) .20 for the bobble on the LSO 4) .10 for the dismount That's already a 9.30 and she could have easily been hit more severely for the LSO, losing ~.30 and thus losing the .10 CV for a 9.10 total score.
Hi there, Was a D required/free in the AA and then two required/free in the EF? Just like in the 96 code? So did you need, essentially .9 in bonus and 1.0 in bonus in the AA and EF, respectively? Also, I think CC was 0.2 in the COP.
Notice she did the "Miller" differently this time around. She held it for two seconds. She never did that before. I think they probably intended on resubmitting the skill.
I do believe Svetlana Horkina (forgive my spelling, I don't remember exactly how to spell the last name) competed in three olympics, I do believe. At any rate, she was 27 at the 2004 games and got either bronze or Silver in the AA, which is pretty legit.
@tmwalkerm They actually said that Steve Nunno thinks that if she hits perfect she could go 9.8. If she would have hit all of her connections it would have been out of a 10.
except for Svetlana Khorkina. she was in 3 olympic games all of which she received a medal. 2000 was the rough olympics due to the vault controversy but she came back for her third in 2004 and ended up taking the silver in the all around.
