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Shapeoko Pro versus Shapeoko 4 - 

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Having redefined the Shapeoko lineup, Carbide 3D now offers you a choice between two outstanding machines. Which one is best suited to your wants or needs? The Makers Garage with Kevin and Winston detail the similarities and differences in the two machines.
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@Model_Student
@Model_Student 3 года назад
Wow, Kevin is an unbelievably good host. How he remembers the overall agenda and individual talking points is crazy.
@cerberus333dog
@cerberus333dog 3 года назад
Glad to see Winston as a partner in the Shapeoko group. He is a valued voice in the cnc community.
@woogaloo
@woogaloo 3 года назад
Great comparisons and SWEET SHIRTS! I really wish I had opted for the S3 XL rather than the XXL that I currently have. I don't use the extra capacity and could really use the space in my shop. Hindsight I guess...! You are correct in saying "be honest with yourself" because I knew I probably wouldn't have needed the extra size especially with my first machine.
@iwannaratrod
@iwannaratrod 3 года назад
Having both myself, I agree. With my Pro I'm more diligent on making sure my linear rails are clean and lubricated with way lube after every use. But I just ran some aluminum plate on it and the Pro ate it for dinner even thought I wasn't running optimally with a mist nor single flute. My SO4.....I just kinda run harder than I did my my SO3, but not as hard as my Pro, then just shut it off and walk away for the night. :)
@nickjm007
@nickjm007 3 года назад
Great video. Very helpful. You folks are really stepping up your content to match the quality of your products. Keep up the great work!
@alberto15x
@alberto15x 3 года назад
Winstoy, i remember when you made a video about threaded inserts in the top (shapeoko 2 cnc kit video) lol i also did it the same way 😄
@iwannaratrod
@iwannaratrod 3 года назад
Same for my SO3. My second revision had them in from the bottom as do my SOPro. :D
@zimotech
@zimotech 3 года назад
I was thinking about buying a shapeoko pro and I love inlays very much but I can't seem to find any example projects anywhere, are inlays possible with shapeoko or is it just to hard?
@rockylewis118
@rockylewis118 3 года назад
Where can I get that table to hold the Shapeoko 4xxl
@ThomasBFishing
@ThomasBFishing 2 года назад
What table are they set on? I like that set up
@Mir_Man22
@Mir_Man22 3 года назад
Doesn´t make the use of belt for movement of axes Shapeoko less precise in positioning the tool?
@funman11895
@funman11895 3 года назад
Any side-by-side comparisons of machining aluminum? I’m particularly curious about surface finish from higher rigidity in the Pro
@vinceramirez4463
@vinceramirez4463 3 года назад
Surface finish is night and day in consistency with the linear rails on the Pro
@williamwhitworth5483
@williamwhitworth5483 3 года назад
The more important question is: where do I get those shirts?!?
@codefeenix
@codefeenix 3 года назад
No link in description to your website? :(
@jordanlee4279
@jordanlee4279 2 года назад
can either machine create 3d products? what file type does this machine use?
@lucasbraithwaite6852
@lucasbraithwaite6852 3 года назад
Odd question: Carbide 3D, where did you get this table in the video ? I just bought the 4 XXL and it looks to be exactly what I need!
@carbide3d
@carbide3d 3 года назад
Lucas, we have a whole video on tables. These are included in the rundown. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vtQ0giXzga0.html
@DADT12
@DADT12 3 года назад
Very cool comparison!! Thanks for the video. Wish I would have waited a little to get either one of these instead of the 3 but then I would have had a hard time deciding which one to get. I do have a question for you, what table are you using for both machines??
@carbide3d
@carbide3d 3 года назад
Hey Juan. The tables are here. Each machine is on two of them placed back to back. I really like these tables for their build quality. - Kevin. www.amazon.com/Seville-Classics-UltraGraphite-Workbench-Organizer/dp/B074WL437T/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=seville+bench&qid=1620393318&sr=8-5
@GregCormier
@GregCormier 3 года назад
@@carbide3d Slick desks. They are 48" wide, the SO is 50" wide. Any concerns here? Official support answer is not recommended.. I want the Winston answer.
@scottkintgen7797
@scottkintgen7797 3 года назад
What is the price of the pro. And where do I fine one
@eyeofamon
@eyeofamon 3 года назад
Why 33 inches, though. That's just a weird dimension. The natural size would be to accommodate a 2' x 4' sheet of plywood like is common from the home centers.
@jnick67a
@jnick67a 3 года назад
Any idea when the bit setter will be available for the Shapeoko 4?
@carbide3d
@carbide3d 3 года назад
The BitSetter for Shapeoko 4 should be available in the next week.
@b3forgeandbladeworksjarred675
What is the table that you're displaying these on? I'm looking for an appropriate work bench for when I order mine.
@carbide3d
@carbide3d Год назад
This video has all the info and some options. Carbide 3D - Table Talk - Where to put your CNC ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vtQ0giXzga0.html
@krtwood
@krtwood 3 года назад
The Pro should get the HDZ stock for more differentiation.
@christopherinserra3825
@christopherinserra3825 Год назад
What table is being used to display both CNC's. Looking for something just like that for my set up.
@carbide3d
@carbide3d Год назад
Seville Classics tables from Amazon. They were about $200 each, and they're great.
@c21delta94
@c21delta94 3 года назад
If I buy the Shapeoko4 can it be upgraded later to the pro version?
@carbide3d
@carbide3d 3 года назад
Right now, we don't have any plans for an upgrade from SO4 to SO Pro. The costs end up being really high.
@jim6402
@jim6402 10 месяцев назад
If I’m looking at your 4 pro do the belts stretch and if so do you cover them if they need to be replaced Also is there a time limit on the software or do I own it when I purchase every year
@carbide3d
@carbide3d 10 месяцев назад
If they fail under warranty, we'll replace them. They are consumable on a long enough timeline, but they're cheap and easy to replace.
@a.j.montie1083
@a.j.montie1083 Год назад
Definitely going back and forth between brands for my company. Would love to demo and video an honest review. US. based cabinet maker / furnisher.
@carbide3d
@carbide3d Год назад
AJ. Check out our new machine: Shapeoko 5 Pro. It’s the best in class machine and package. The 4x4 might be right for a cabinet builder. Also go to My.Carbide3D.com We are the best CNC partner in the business. And I suggest you vet that remark by checking out our community, the Unofficial Shapeoko Facebook Groups and other consumer directed sites. There you’ll find real customer experiences unfiltered from us. “Who” the company is matters for your CNC success. We believe in who we are as a company.
@SlonUtubes
@SlonUtubes 3 года назад
I love the tables they are on. Who makes them?
@carbide3d
@carbide3d 3 года назад
All of the extrusions are custom-made for us and then machined in-house.
@colinfein4331
@colinfein4331 3 года назад
@@carbide3d What about the tables they're sitting on?
@SlonUtubes
@SlonUtubes 3 года назад
@@colinfein4331 Yes that is what I was asking! I have the pro already The Extrusion table is nice
@olavodias
@olavodias 3 года назад
I believe this is the one: www.homedepot.com/p/Seville-Classics-Ultragraphite-Wood-Top-Workbench-on-Wheels-WEB484/303068669
@adrianuselvers5284
@adrianuselvers5284 3 года назад
Can you put the new belts with the wider wheels on the “old” XXL?
@carbide3d
@carbide3d 3 года назад
Adrianus, both of these machines are new architecture and not backwards compatible with the Shapeoko 3. Both launch videos for the Pro and Shapeoko 4 are linked on the end of this video. Click one of those cards for more info.
@anotheryoutuber_
@anotheryoutuber_ 3 года назад
where there is a want, capitalists or makers wont delay...
@nickr5658
@nickr5658 3 года назад
I’m sure there is a way. The shapeoko 3 works great. There are ball screw upgrade kits out there for the shapeoko. I’m not sure why they used belts? Maybe for the dust?
@ClintonCaraway-CNC
@ClintonCaraway-CNC 2 года назад
@@anotheryoutuber_ that's absolutely true. When the Pro and Nomad were announced in September 2020 the first thing that was said is the Shapeoko 3 isn't going anywhere. Fast forward a little over a year and they are phasing it out Fast!!
@ClintonCaraway-CNC
@ClintonCaraway-CNC 3 года назад
I love the Shapeoko Pro. I have really enjoyed it.....so far it has exceeded all my expectations!! The HDZ/ spindle upgrades are a massive improvement. The HDZ should be standard on the Pro and option for the 4.
@firstcome5740
@firstcome5740 3 года назад
What software do I use for it?
@carbide3d
@carbide3d 3 года назад
Either machine comes with Carbide Create for CAD and Carbide Motion for CAM. You are set to go with the software package included with the machines.
@radhikaravi6549
@radhikaravi6549 Год назад
Placing titles of these models on the screen and during closeups would help
@wesleyallen5312
@wesleyallen5312 2 года назад
Where do you buy those tables?
@carbide3d
@carbide3d 2 года назад
They are from Amazon. Here’s more info. The link for the Seville Tables is in the description. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vtQ0giXzga0.html
@KPhil2713
@KPhil2713 3 года назад
I'll add yet another request for info on the tables these are resting on 😆 We all want to know where to get those tables to put our CNCs on!!!
@olavodias
@olavodias 3 года назад
I believe this is the table: www.homedepot.com/p/Seville-Classics-Ultragraphite-Wood-Top-Workbench-on-Wheels-WEB484/303068669
@KPhil2713
@KPhil2713 3 года назад
@@olavodias nice find! I guess they stacked them back to back.
@olavodias
@olavodias 3 года назад
@@KPhil2713 yes, I saw another video (first look at the shapeoko pro), and at 2:38 it’s pretty clear they are using two tables. I got the XL, looking forward to start using it 😬
@carbide3d
@carbide3d 3 года назад
Table Talk: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vtQ0giXzga0.html
@bryanharness1122
@bryanharness1122 2 года назад
Struggling to decide on a pro from you guys or the onefinity. Being new to the game it's a tough decision 😪
@carbide3d
@carbide3d 2 года назад
If you look at the total of what’s offered, it shouldn’t even be a question.
@carbide3d
@carbide3d 2 года назад
My.Carbide3D.Com
@bryanharness1122
@bryanharness1122 2 года назад
@@carbide3d like what for example? I'm a total newbie to cnc. I run a metal shop with manual mills. So I get rigidity is key and looking at machines the ball screw of competitor stands out. The linear rails on yours looks good also on pro but the belts i dont care for. I'm really struggling to see the difference that matters I guess. I like yours has the waste table included. And I like the competitors easy tear down. I want a good product to produce good results for all my followers and customers. Seems your competitors are taking all the influencers and providing them these machines and their taking them for some reason. When Myers switched over I was shocked so I wanted to just ask and see what your all take on it. I'm sure either will work for me but I don't want to regret this purchase....like anyone I'm sure. I need to go visit someone with one of your machines.
@bryanharness1122
@bryanharness1122 2 года назад
@@carbide3d btw @samcraft is a awesome guy he also said to go with you all so I am leaning that direction now. He pointed out the integrated level bed which I hadn't thought about. He deserves 👏 from me. 😄. Anyways hopefully I'll have one soon. Thanks for the response @carbide3d
@ezekielswiss5956
@ezekielswiss5956 Месяц назад
So this machine used to come with the router and now it does not? Plus its 100 dollars more.
@carbide3d
@carbide3d Месяц назад
Other than temporary promotions, we have never included routers with the machines. We did decide to include the BItSetter with every Shapeoko 4 and that increased the price. (This is the only price increase we've done, even though costs have skyrocketed over the past few years)
@My-ASMR-Life
@My-ASMR-Life Год назад
I want the Pro but I cannot afford the price. 😞 But it sounds like the Shapeoko 4 is about the same?
@carbide3d
@carbide3d Год назад
They are both very capable machines. What material will you primarily be cutting?
@My-ASMR-Life
@My-ASMR-Life Год назад
@@carbide3d I would like to eventually cut more than wood. But wood is what I will first be cutting. I ended up buying the Shapeoko 4 XXL. Is there a way to get files for things I want to make all ready to go? Just upload the file and hit start and it will do it? I really need to get some files that I can sell the product. Thank you for your help. I really appreciate it!
@davidsalvagni3462
@davidsalvagni3462 4 месяца назад
What size are the machines here?
@carbide3d
@carbide3d 4 месяца назад
XXL of both machines.
@firstcome5740
@firstcome5740 3 года назад
At 1:46 where could I get that plastic at?
@carbide3d
@carbide3d 3 года назад
We have a variety of plastics and other materials available direct. That is a block of HDPE. shop.carbide3d.com/collections/materials/plastic
@firstcome5740
@firstcome5740 3 года назад
@@carbide3d I just looked and I was wondering do you have anything that is around 8x8 1.5 inch thick for the HDPE Sheet
@290592kresten
@290592kresten 3 года назад
i Hope i comse to EU some day
@chrisj9008
@chrisj9008 2 года назад
So xcarve with all the upgrades vs the pro...
@bentebrunsvelt319
@bentebrunsvelt319 3 года назад
I Like machine Why not ofline work with usb drive
@langrock74
@langrock74 2 года назад
You can hook up a Raspberry Pi and call that 'offline'. CNCjs is a solid option to control these kinds of CNCs.
@cheesefries7436
@cheesefries7436 Год назад
More videos from the guy on the right please!
@carbide3d
@carbide3d Год назад
Machining Textured Knife Scales from Richlite ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_FBOmfTzdMU.html
@SpwnDragn
@SpwnDragn 3 года назад
lol I feel jipped, they didn't mention the s4 was coming out when I ordered my xxl. 3 weeks after getting my xxl it comes out.. :( oh well still love the CS from this company.
@nickr5658
@nickr5658 3 года назад
I doubt these upgrades will make much of a difference for most people. It’s a starter cnc. If you stick with it you will want to upgrade to a much higher end cnc at some point, not a shapeoko.
@SpwnDragn
@SpwnDragn 3 года назад
@@nickr5658 very true. :)
@homezero
@homezero 3 года назад
Hmmm... So the only differences are the Linear Rails and the End Plates of the side rails? Maybe something about V-Wheels? Not a major difference.
@nickr5658
@nickr5658 3 года назад
Yep, not much of an upgrade. They are being smart business people and making an “new” model so they can raise the price. This is how you stay in business. The shapeoko is an awesome first cnc. When Winston is taking about more precision in the 4 I would really want to see him prove that. There are many factors that control precision and repeatability and a cnc this light weight it will be very hard to keep repeatable dims and tolerances.
@zgemboBA
@zgemboBA 2 года назад
No chance to get it from some European partner?
@carbide3d
@carbide3d 2 года назад
From Italy: www.3ditalyshop.it/?s=carbide
@coulterjb22
@coulterjb22 3 года назад
Goodbye SO3 from 2015….hello pro!
@jEdwinJames9675
@jEdwinJames9675 3 года назад
Be nice if you could actually buy the PRO. What a bummer.
@longliu2901
@longliu2901 3 года назад
I have a shapeoko 3, and i dont think it is worth it is.
@mihaelmiles7184
@mihaelmiles7184 3 года назад
How much I can get profit if I have CNC business monthly?
@bentebrunsvelt319
@bentebrunsvelt319 3 года назад
I dont no😒😒wishful i sal buy!! Need pc with in garage 🙄
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