I think people don't truly understand how deeply traumatic pregnancy/child loss is especially at the point she was pretending to be. Not only do you have the trauma of something dieing inside you and it rotting inside you (yes the baby decomposes and its a noticeable amount even after 2 days) at the point she was saying to be it's not just a heavy period in the toilet you have to get induced, labor and birth your deceased baby. You leave the hospital with no baby, you still have to go through post partum healing from a birth you don't have a baby from, your body still produces milk for a baby you will never feed, your body is forever chnaged and you are left with permanent reminders of your loss. I've known many people who have mourned the loss of their babies their entire lives onward literally until their own passing. It's deeply traumatizing and not something that's a joke or a "social experiment"
Ironically I can't connect with people period ever since I had my miscarriage last year, whether online or in real life. Just because you can express empathy does not necessarily mean you're invested or connect. But hey I guess that' strategy to shock and lose dead weight, get attention and make her true fans pay. I think she's smart enough to grasp how disgusting this was, it's just she doesn't care and is making it clear that the only people who matter are the ones who pay for her paytreon and she doesn't care about anyone else in her fanbase they're deadweight to her. There's only a handful of youtubers that I've given money to and it was only based on the quality of their content that I thought should be rewarded because I actually really get annoyed when they talk too much about their personal lives and click off sometimes. I'm just here for the content.
As someone who has also had a miscarriage I don't think people with sensitively with losing a child should be clicking on videos that literally say "I lost the baby...", kind of a hot take, I know.
Pregnancy loss is so traumatic. Going through postpartum without a baby is the most confusing and sensitive time. I've just experienced my 4th loss. I hope that those who feel this is a subject worth joking about, never end up actually going through this- because it destroys you.
I'm so sorry for your losses. I'm an unfortunate member of the bereaved parent club, myself. I was the same age as this girl (20) when I lost my first-born child. I even looked a lot like this girl at the time. The whole "joke" was incredibly tone deaf, heart breaking, and downright triggering. Tasteless.
@@joequagmire4565 what point? I never watched her. Never even heard her name but just by knowing that she did, I can that she shouldn't have done it. I don't need to be in a parasocial relationship to understand that pregnancy and lose of child is hard.
@@joequagmire4565 I didn't know who this lame girl was until I watched this video, the "joke" was not funny and yes, the people defending are most likely the ones watching her. So they do in fact have a parasocial relationship with her. Most of the people who think what she did was not funny and was in bad taste are people who don't watch her videos. They do not have a parasocial relationship with her. So her whole "social experiment" was a fail. All the "experiment" proved was that her and her fans are not funny (bad sense of humor), not intelligent, and probably not the best people morally.
@@Grey-ln1bz Or...people have a higher tolerance to this kind of humour and it has nothing to do with parasocial relationships. You just want to throw that word around because it's a buzzword lately.
And the worse thing, it wasn’t even a good “joke”. This event is the humor equivalent of jumpscares in horror movies. It was not scary, just unexpected. It was not funny, just shocking.
Exactly. You CAN joke about sensitive topics, but you need to give the subject matter the respect it deserves, tact, and, I don’t know- an actual punchline or something? It takes a bit of skill for a comedian to do so ethically.
@@HavianEla word for word. The amount of people calling her a comedic genius… I’m sorry, how is this girl any type of genius? Specially a comedic one? 😭
I lost two children. One from ectopic pregnancy and from complications after birth. This is so insensitive and beyond cruel. I still mourn the lost of my babies even it has been 11 years ago. I am lucky to have a healthy now 11 years old girl but I will forever miss my kids who didn't had a chance to live and be loved.
Oh god I’m so sorry for ur 2 losses, I’m sure if they survived they would have been great and you would have been a great mother to them, again I’m sorry for ur loss and take as much time as you need, it can take 50 years to get over them but that still wouldn’t be a problem to anyone❤
Oh my god, i am so sorry that happened to you. I hope you have been doing well and coping, you deserve so much love and happiness and i hope you get that man, please stay safe and remember you are loved
Thank you for not aborting! I’m so sorry that happened to you, but I’m so happy to hear you gave that innocent baby a chance. ♥️ I hope you continue on your journey of healing. If you haven’t, lean into Jesus.
I feel like only a family member or a stalker would care enough to pay $50 a month to learn “sensitive information” about someone. And $300 a month?! Does she have a cure for cancer or something? I’m sorry but absolutely not😂
I’m very glad someone else used the “pick me” to describe her. It’s exactly what I thought. She either has some serious issues or is just extremely immature still.
Hopefully she doesn't end up the subject of one of the true crimes I watch a bit too much. The irony of talking down to your parasocial fans when the most parasocial ones are likely to be nutjobs. One of these days her unfunny jokes if going to enrage one of the crazies. Honestly, I have zero understanding the "influencers" provoking strangers on the internet when history has shown us again and again how these things can end.
I’m not even offended, and I couldn’t tell it was a joke, because it wasn’t funny. I’m saying this because I’m shocked by the amount of people calling this girl a comedic genius. This is eight grade tier humor. This is taking an obviously offensive idea and executing it. When people talk about good humor being unexpected, they are rarely talking about “plot-twists”, and more often about subverting a topic you don’t think could be funny, into a joke. Like I said, this change in the course of the events is not geniality, it’s shitpost meme page worthy. This is the humor equivalent of jumpscares in horror movies.
There are just certain things that you do not joke about. If the “joke” is at the expense of other people, it’s not a joke. Miscarriage is one of the most traumatic things a woman can go through. Everything about this entire situation is just disgusting.
although it's been more than 1Oyrs passed my own .... loss .... seeing things like this still hurts when it's made fun of or taken lightly or *AS A JOKE!* 😤
That’s disgusting I lost 2 babies to miscarriages. One in February this year I was 4 weeks in and I thought it was my rainbow baby… I lost my first one in 2022.. it’s not something to joke. It’s painful and it’s so hard.
I can’t stand people doing this when there’s a lot of women out there wishing to be fertile or like me wishing to had been able to see their child came to life.
Bruh...That's sick- I don't care if it was a joke or anything, but to me that was sick- I fear I would lose a child so much when I become pregnant. And I want to have a kid, but with how this world is so f*cked up I'm waiting until I'm financially and mentally stable enough to have a kid. But the reason I fear so much is because my size. Some women who are shorter have a harder time getting pregnant and even birthing the child and have a higher risk having a miscarriage- And I fear it all. I fear even getting pregnant because...I wouldn't know how to act...I wouldn't know if I should be happy or sad or what- It's such a scary time to experience- It's just sick because my 2 aunts I have one can't/is struggling to even get pregnant and her sister, got pregnant, but lost the baby. The one who lost a baby she still cries to this day about losing it and she lost that baby 3 years ago. So no this is something that should never be a joke- It's traumatic enough to even know you're pregnant it's such a vulnerable time and it's even worse when losing the child- Some people are so f*cked up- That was sick...not even funny I never laughed once at this- I'm....just very disappointed in her and how very immature she is-
This sort makes me think of Sam & Nia Rader (family vloggers who were recently featured on the Ashley Madison Netflix documentary) who made that staged “man tells wife she’s pregnant” video and then faked a miscarriage. They really seem scam-y putting out their new book along side the documentary and trying to restart their RU-vid career
I used to be similar to this; very edgy and nihilistic. One day she will grow up and realise an attitude like that is only hurting herself and pushing people away and ruining her character. Having edgy jokes isn’t original or lasting, people will remember a good character way way more.
Postpartum depression is hard and scary I got it after my second baby so I start taking medicine and having epilepsy and being bipolar doesn't make it easy with 2 kids under 2 😢😢
Nothing shocks me about attention seekers who manipulate people for money. What does sicken me though, is the amount of people who know this yet still financially and emotionally support her, yet abuse those of us who think it’s morally corrupt. Make it make sense!
I was subscribed to her but after the video I subscribed immediately. It was so tone deaf and insensitive to people who have lost babies or can’t even conceive children.
My mother experience child loss before I was born, and then something did not make light of even women who want baby so badly. It shouldn’t be made up at all like you never do that on peoples anxiety because it will put them in serious episode of them, not trusting people.
Wow I’ve been watching her for years. She’s absolutely hilarious. Never thought she’d do something like this. Just goes to show how synthetic a person’s online character is
after my brother was born, my mom had postpartum depression. it was alot for my family. she had to stay in the hospital for 2 weeks, while i was in 2nd grade. hearing this makes me feel that caroline thinks pregnancy is a joke, and that there are no consequences after.
Idk if the pic of her hand over mouth smile in front of the ultrasound photos at 2:53 was meant to troll us but isn't the girl in the pic katie bowman who developed the algorithm for the imaging of the first blackhole back in 2019 lol
Say you are a manipulator narcissist without saying you are manipulator narcissist ... "yeah I will make you feel empathy for me but this Isn't real and completely your fault that you involved yourself In It" ok whatever Caroline
Why were ppl subscribed in the first place? She has seemed weird and rude from the start ,imo. She is making a joke about losing the baby😮! Looking around the house? Why would ppl like her? I'm confused. Am I the only one who licked up on her being weird in the VERY 1ST VIDEO?!
I was expecting the video to be a joke when i clicked on it, but since it was played straight i bought it. While i couldn't empathize what she was pretending to go through and therefore don't feel totally betrayed, i don't think i can stay subscribed.
This makes me a bit sad. I will struggle to conceive in the future. I'm trying to take it as it was meant, a joke. But it's not that easy. When I hold my goddaughter, it feels like my heart just shatters into pieces because I know she is not my own and now there is a lot of uncertainty about my ability to conceive. It hurts a bit to empathise with someone and get excited for them just to be duped. Joke's on me I guess.
This is rather sad. I had a miscarriage and don't give it a lot of thought, because it actually is truamatizing. For me, it was the situation I was in as opposed to the loss. For people actively trying to get pregnant and have pregnancy loss is a really messed up thing to joke about. I'm all about joking to make light of bad things, but she was just being insensitive
wait did she post the photo at 2:54 as her own? It's a picture of a scientist who is excited over a new find I believe and the screen has been alterted
I watched her for years and based on the context of all her previous videos, I never believed she was pregnant. Her videos have never been serious so I don't really understand the hate she's getting.
It's disgusting. Personally, I've never been pregnant, and never lost a baby. I do however know that I could potentially never have a child, and if I did get pregnant, I would likely lose it before it came to full term. So even never have gone through this personally, I am disgusted with her 'art' you can't call BS like that art, I'm sorry but you just can't. Art is to show a piece that will be beautiful, resonate with people, be inspiring, and everything in between, not make a mockery out of the empathy of the humans that watch your content (her not you obviously) .
Well comedy dark comedy is subjective but to say it's funny to all is not true. Some people were actually facing that dark thing you just made funny ...like that guy who joke about SA when there is actually people who are subject to it. SoNO TO such creators. Not everything is funny to EVERYONE expecting that is funny.😊
You can see at one point how obvious her fake belly is. But yeah this is just a bad taste joke thats not even a joke best it can be is trolling bad trolling at that.
I feel like the only inspired part of her "prank" is the debrates that have stemmed from it. Some people at the end made some pretty interesting points, but that is of their own creation and interpretation. For all we know, the woman is a shallow troll who "thought" of an idea to get attention, aka a way as old as time itself for a lot of women, and threw it at the wall to see if it would stick. A similar consideration could be made for some modern art like the banana duct taped to a wall or the picture of the Campbell soup can. Even though some of the defenders had really intriguing thoughts on her "experiment", they might as well also be interpreting a picture of a can of soup. At the end of the day, it can be considered art with the true intent only being known to the creator, maybe. Still, imagine if at the end of your favorite movie, book, or media the creator had decided to fill the ending up with a ramble about how stupid you all were for caring about the narrative and characters. Congrats, you've made some kind of point, to some people. But it's made the world just a bit shittier than it already is, and you could have just as easily made the same point in 1000 different ways that didn't result in vulnerable people feeling ashamed, hurt, and humiliated. There's plenty of racist, ped***illic, anti-LBGTQ art out in the world, would you defend the integrity of those pieces simply because it is art? So, the bit was one that has been done since the beginning of time (a fake pregnancy for attention), hurt people to prove a point that could have just as easily been done with a fake CGI dog or something, and the punchline demonstrated very flawed logic in that this would only rope in the most unhinged followers to her Patreon. I would just as soon (as in never) give her a dollar as I would give a dollar to the prankster who punches strangers in the back of the head or people who try to prove their point (ie protest) at funeral services.
To clarify- I don’t think this is funny. However, I also don’t think it was meant to really be funny. It’s quite an interesting experiment if you step back think about it. BUT I will say she should have carried this way differently than she did. Saying she “lost the baby” was pretty messed up. She could of titled the video “I was never pregnant: explained” I’m sure people would have still been offended. Which is understandable.
Honestly, the situation it’s really not that kind of funny when you think about this and a realistic situation and people experiences though. And this isn’t funny. It’s very sad and traumatic for people. 😢
