Shirley Phelps 'Evil Angel' | Louis Theroux | BBC Studios 

thats why they are always smiling, they will always be in pain because deep down they know what they are doing is wrong

Red State with John Goodman.

Exactly what was I was thinking. When she starts talking her face changes, full of pure hate. Disgusting.

Oh shut up

@@samson5791 what’s wrong with you?

Probably. She herself admitted that she changed her mind after her multiple online Twitter debates. The exposure to multiple point of views actually helped her see the truth. Louis is such an exposure.

Shirley lost Megan and Grace. No sympathy whatsoever. Shirkey gloats and laughs when other mothers lose their babies to cancer, or fires, or wars. She celebrates it as Gods judgement. Karma is a bitch.

ThePlataf I agree, but seeing her experience that karma did make me feel for her. It is Karma coming back to bite, she is a broken woman in the most recent documentary.

100%

That woman is saving her children from this world and all his evil.

As Napoleon Bonaparte said: "Never interrupt your opponent when he's making a mistake." If some idiot like Martin Bashir had conducted this interview he'd interrupt every 3 seconds and we'd never get to hear this woman make a fool of herself.

I've always said this. Hes not threatening whatsoever and ppl let their guard down and dig their own grave !

*root

Explain the Socratic method please Gandhi

@@Barkmann94 yes please

looking at their eyes and foreheads and hair would suggest inbreeding

statistically, at least one of all those kids has to be possibly gay. bless that child's heart.

Why actually? Their parents are all lawyers, so they were pretty well off, no alcoholism, no stds early on. And once they leave they are media heros having fled from indoctrination.. and they easily can make a dime off of that... Also it's interesting for party small talk. I've grown up in a loony cult myself, and it was very instructive. Any kid losing their parents at a really age or having alcoholics as parents could have it far worse.

Histo Logie Nice whataboutism, money does not automatically equal happiness. These kids have zero freedom outside of religion. Being raised in a cult and having alcoholic parents are both bad ways to grow up.

@@histologie4140 "Any kid losing their parents at a really age or having alcoholics as parents could have it far worse" Surely such a comparison is simply a game of one upmanship. We can always find worse injustices but to say such things discount a lesser injustice is simply dismissing the issue. It's like saying you shouldn't feel any sympathy for someone getting robbed because another person got murdered.

When I heard that im like yes thats exactly what your supposed to do🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Yeah I mean, if they think all other people are already doomed, and they don't want to win them over, why don't they just stay home?

It isn’t the point for hardcore Calvinists

No, that's not their job. Whether people like it or not, the WBC is carrying the words in the bible exactly as they are stated.

But it's actually to point out how evil everyone is while at the same time highlighting how perfect they are.

Exactly

Ah but did she take it up the tailpipe?

She changed.

Because they are sexually repressed.

Projecting most of the time

Yes, I would have lost it right then and there had I been the reporter!

Damn I just posted the same comment. Although I figured I couldn't be the only one to pick up in the kids name.

@@aberamagold7509 😂😂 i've just done the same

Making fun of children great job there pal

LMFAO

The irony is that she's a civil rights lawyer and her father was a civil rights lawyer who would tackle trials that could get him lynched.

Man i love these ancient comments. EPIC FAIL lol i have not heard that in ages

@MrJobofo Yeah dude

I grew up in Topeka, where they are based. Fred Phelps was a lawyer involved in many civil rights cases. He actually did a lot of good there. Ironic, isn't it? Grace, Megan and Zacharias Phelps-Roper have all left the church. I remember them standing at 21st and Gage picketing, or picketing various restaurants for having employees that WBC thought might be part of the LGBTQ community. Disgraceful.

She's a lawyer? Epic fail

The way she just sighs in exasperation like, "You've got a lot to learn kid. God hates gays, Jews, and the Swedish."

That's not the same thing at all, and in any case isn't the argument she's making; if you watched the rest of this doc and other features on them you'd know this. Her church has perverted the (already pretty screwy) theology of the Bible and he's absolutely calling it out.

Not taking her side, but for the sake of argument, why did he create hell?

But god does create evil, it's even in the bible

it does contradict the ten commandments and many other commandments...as God is the one who makes Law and that is how he is Worshipped, not by men legalizing all abominations, perversions, oppression, harmful relations and depravity.

The Law of Moses did not just contain 10 commandments. There were hundreds. Here's one: *“Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."* (Leviticus 18:22). Of course, Christians are not under the Law of Moses but God's ways do not change. Hence, we have the command to Christians: *"Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men... will inherit the kingdom of God."* (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).

@@ElectricEarth Quoting bible verses as part of the Commandments given to Moses by God, is honestly the most laughable thing I have ever seen... Also, there are thousands of things that are prohibited in the Old Testament that we disregard today. So what makes the issue of homosexuality that much more important than other orders given by God. Like not being able to wear two differing types of cloth...

@@rmx6737 There were about 613 commandments that made up the Mosaic Law. There were 10 basic commandments. Some Laws are not applicable because they were unique to the environment in which the Jews llived (such as prohibition of shellfish and pork as food). We are not under the Law of Moses, we are under the Law of Christ but there are similarities. You should read what he taught and what the Apostles were inspired to write. Then obey it.

@@ElectricEarth How is the dietary prohibition unique to the Jews' environment? And what is the difference between the 'Law of Moses' and the 'Law of Christ'?

One of the sons did too...

Megan, Grace and Zach have all left the church. 20 members have left since 2004, I believe. Could be wrong though. Might be more by now.

@@mariahclaar7915 Josh also left the church.

Read "unfollow". The biography of Megan Phelps-Roper. Just finished it...an eye opener...

Lindie Theunissen I agree it’s a great read. I appreciate how Megan owned the truth without trashing her family.

“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.”

@@AvatarOfBhaal OOOoo, tou che

@@AvatarOfBhaal that's good, I like that one

Hahahahahaha!!!

She certainly seems to be a smiley ass mf 😂

Honda and other corporates are only 'vocal' in countries where it's legal. In China, Russia, the Middle East etc... They don't advocate anything

SP Who’s gonna tell him how gay sex works

LMFAODSOS

I believe she said "tail-pipe" .....

@@Moamanly she did

I found that part quite funny 🤣

Very True! It's not right.

Jesus Christ would've called them hypocrites, and pharishees.

They even picket at children's funerals. It's vile.

Yes it does.

Yeah…. That part left me feeling uneasy.

😂😂😂

Yeah that's my thinking as well. With that much hatred he had to have been dealing with some homosexual feelings of his own.

Apparently. Dorothy lived in Kansas? Jeesh!

like the bloke in American Beauty!

You think he was blow jobbing on the side?

like shirley's hair. conditioner.

Actually its a positive sign that radical people like this exist. It shows 1) society is very tolerant 2) this family are seen as completely crazy which means most people are rational and compassionate

It's like they skipped anything Jesus ever said and took all the hate elements from the bible especially from the old testament and twisted all that as their hateful messagw. God is Love and Jesus told love everyone despite are they sinners or not and we all sin once in a while. Christianity is all about love and forgiveness.

It's all bollox anyway

They're like the opposite of most other Christians. They ignore the second half of the book. Hey look, this book has all the answers. Just don't read that bit!

Insulting people.

Just to simply warn people that their sin is taking them to hell, according to them.

@@TheGreekPianist They should have just done a letter drop and taken the rest of their lives off.

Alienate wider society so as to isolate their own members, thus making them easier to control. Standard cult tactic really.

To offend everyone as much as possible and the gaslight them into thinking they just aren’t understanding the word of God

Yes, I saw that. Shirley, who openly gloats when other people's children are murdered or die of horrible diseases , has lost 4 of hers, but they're still alive and thriving. Such is her devotion to this insane cult that she cannot allow herself to have any communication with them, or to meet her grandchildren.

Is this on RU-vid?

I can see Jane Lynch too

Isnt it frances mcdormand? Let me google...

Jane seems the better choice considering their personality.

J Kasule I punch her straight in her evil face if it was my family funeral horrible woman deserves to be locked up

At the time, Shirley was like the PR person of the WBC, she appeared on many shows like Howard Stern or Tyra Banks so she likely has been asked a lot worse but probably has to answer every question that gets asked so it doesn’t seem like she’s dodging. Fred is the leader and so he doesn’t feel like he has to when he has Shirley to do the interviews for him. Fred was also very old when this was shot.

Honestly, same. You don't disrespect my loved ones, especially the dead, and expect me to show mercy

Oh no we got a couple of tough guys here

@@ghengiskhan9308 Are you the emperor of Mongolia?

Such irony

You are judging them by saying that. We are all judged and we all judge by necessity...and God in fact commands us to judge people, actions and relationships by God's laws...God didn't command us to submit to straying desires, societal misguided fashions and just integrate with a corrupt society. The prophets were sent to change people's beliefs, actions and relationships...not to fit in with the corruption. 'Judge not lest you be judged' is not an absolute....rather it falls into the general by which the specific is intended/applied. Society needs law and order and thus disputes are settled by judgement as are infringements of the law. If you strip away Divine Law...then society still needs organization, limits and laws...so then it will turn into man-made law and people will still be judged by it, as they are. But this is related to the deviation of Paul who told people to abandon Divine Law (contrary to the command of Jesus who commanded people to obey it, but even Paul clearly opposed homosexuality) and yet submit to the laws of the Roman polytheist occupiers! Utterly ridiculous and a clear violation of monotheism, prophetic message and Scripture.

Usually the case. People like this bring others down to feel higher I'm sure. That being said, am I doing the same thing by saying this?

Everyone uses this scripture incorrectly. It sounds simple but it actually has a serious legal connotation connection the manners of judgement. We are to judge in accordance with moral principles, Christian moral principles or bluntly God's principles and not judge by our subjective standards. Read closer into this and you'll find Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for making their own additions to God's laws whilst dismissing others entirely. Read closer. There is a right way and a wrong way and that also concerns own's position. Certain judgments are only given to be made by certain persons by authority, not everyone can just judge. Everything lies in the detail.

"He among you who is without sin, let him cast the first stone" is another good one.

Always to Christians though... Never seen him hang with a Muslim family and constantly challenge their beliefs.

Megan left the church and so have some other people.

They are in a better position than those children left to the corrupt pollution of the media and evil education of STate schools etc.

Poor kids waiting to be groomed by you, most likely.

Not gonna lie Im British and when I first read it I thought that

Rather, the evil state shouldn't have custody over children...the man-made law celebrates mass-murdering unborn children and turning them into transgender etc...maybe you shouldn't have custody of children, you sure you are doing good for them? Based on what?

damn false teachers i hope god saves them too

did you just reply to your own comment?

Kaleb Malanin Jesus made a new man (or people) out of two peoples, the jews and the gentiles. in a way, christians are the true jews, for not all born of israel are israel. i like you comment though, thanks

Lies.

Oh fuck yes either that or Ali G

They the same dude anyway

Oh, so God sits around in heaven despising homosexuality, according to you. Why? What is the purpose? There is so much violence and hatred and sickness and poverty going on in the world, but God has time to despise homosexuality? And you have time to report on his opinions. Meanwhile millions of children are going to bed hungry. Maybe both you and God could do with a re-alignment of priorities.

@@janetkizer5956 I mentioned it just to clarify my statement so that people knew where I was coming from. Homosexuality is discussed in the Bible and I can't change that. No one should be pressured or forced into agreeing with God's view and I'm pretty positive that God doesn't condone a war being waged on homosexuality by Christians. It certainly isn't winsome.

@@fennecfox9490 it's all very well to say that no one should be forced to agree with God's supposed opinion on homosexuality, and to claim that his opinion doesn't mean people should hate actual, real homosexuals. But in fact people have been forced to agree with God on this point, to the extent of being hanged or burnt at the stake, and not all that long ago, either. And even today gay people are executed, or sent to prison, or forced to undergo various barbaric methods of so-called "treatment". And all because of a few lines in a book written centuries ago. To just brush all this off with a statement like, "well it says so in the bible" is unspeakable. The bible was written by human beings, and human beings can be filled with hate and bigotry that should not be treated with reverence and allowed to continue to influence people for thousands of years, as those ugly quotes have done.

@@janetkizer5956 The unspeakable things that people have done over the years, and even continue to do, actually go against the message that Jesus preaches in the Bible. And the Bible is the Word of God. Anyone can take a verse from the Bible and use it to justify awful acts of hatred and oppression that God hates. And that was what I was saying in my original post, that God does not hate the homosexual, and disapproves of vile acts of aggression that so-called Christians perpetrate upon folks that do not obey God's law. Romans does talk about homosexuality as something that God does not condone. And of course not all people are going to take that to heart. But the fault is with the people who claim to love God and continue to abuse those they disagree with, not with the Word of God. And that was what I was talking about in my original post.

Shirley is not innocent. She had a choice. 😊

No, she exerts power and control over her family and her sect by that hatred

Gabriel is from the bible

Pervs

LMFAO 🤣

Hobby that makes them a lot of money somehow

Shame there is no such thing as a soul

Really hope this is sarcasm

@@Chloe4656. no it's not sarcasm. It's been a church millitant I admire Shirley.

@Sharing God love no god does not hate homosexuals Abraham pleaded with God before he rained burning sulphur down on sodom he said if I find any righteous I will spare it but none were to be found so no god does not hate them if they repent he hates the act

I hope you are joking. Otherwise get well soon.

You're a heretic

Sadly people do live with people like this

I wouldn't be surprised if them kids turned out to be extremely mentally disturbed and ending up killing themselves or something

I think you mean faith and not belief. But yeah it's crazy that in 2021 people still spout this crap.

Lolol. Yeah. Jesus was real. Sure.

These lot are the least Christian people I've ever seen.

Wrong, God commanded people to judge actions, beliefs, people and relationships by his laws. And it isn't about speaking for Christians it is about speaking truth, judging with justice and submitting all opinions on all matters to Divine Law. Man-made law, man-made philosophy, ideology and culture is the root of all evil and oppression in the world. God doesn't love everyone, he hates most people because of their disbelief, polytheism, atheism, sins, corruption etc...And God commanded us to love and hate based on his criteria, laws and guidance...not our own emotions and opinions wrongly adopted from a corrupt government, society, media and mis-education system.

Anyone that says God is love has not read the bible. Do you say that an abusive parent is love also?

Well to be fair, the Bible says far, far, FAR worse things than that.

Didn't she say "tail hole" which is even funnier?

Everything she says here completely contradicts the Bible.

im a gay guy and I laughed .hehe,

Louis: "What proof is there that God hates people and hates the world?" Fred: "I'm not going to answer that as it's a stupid question, if you don't know the answer then you're an idiot" You can just tell these people are full of hate and anger and will insult you if you dare to challenge them. They are the least Christian people I've ever seen. But remember, Jesus would still forgive them so we must try to not judge them for their behaviour, although it is easier said than done as none of us are perfect.

it is it's just not that big of a deal as someone who would be gay...from their point of view

@@streetsking1 Wrong. Its exactly the same. Scripture says anyone who has broken one law has broken them all.

Someone like you a 'religious person' might seem over the top to me, someone who is not.