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Short-seller Chanos on why he's shorting food delivery company Grubhub 

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Jim Chanos, Kynikos Associates founder, joins ' Fast Money Halftime Report' to discuss why he's short food delivery company Grubhub.

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18 сен 2019

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@scottjacobs255
@scottjacobs255 4 года назад
I don't necessarily agree with all of his positions but he does amazing, clearly communicated, fundamental analysis.
@tommathew7684
@tommathew7684 4 года назад
A recession is nowhere as deadly as massive rent increases. Massive rent increases are coming to Queens, Brooklyn, Bronx and Staten Island. Many of these chains will kill each other.
@be4unvme
@be4unvme 4 года назад
why do do u say massive rents increases are coming when rents are starting to cool down in nyc
@aloaloalo8142
@aloaloalo8142 4 года назад
Really? Its been the best time to move yo NYC in YEARS!
@danielsciarra6869
@danielsciarra6869 4 года назад
Every time I see his name I hear that quote " Jim Chanos makes money once a decade "
@ZombieLincoln666
@ZombieLincoln666 4 года назад
That's not even true though lol. It's just butt hurt Tesla fanboys making stuff up. They literally say in this that he's long the market
@rogermenezes
@rogermenezes 4 года назад
A Chamath classic :)
@mooremax
@mooremax 4 года назад
His 25 year track record is 26.9%/year through October. The model is 100% short, 200% long, and if you choose good enough long-term shorts, that makes for pretty cheap financing..... (i.e., getting paid to borrow).
@ramayan5186
@ramayan5186 3 года назад
I like his opinion about predictions for market and stocks. Great guy with Down to earth attitude.
@mojo5851
@mojo5851 4 года назад
nailed it
@chova1123
@chova1123 4 года назад
Indeed
@trader96.
@trader96. 4 года назад
Damn! I wish I bought puts back when I watched this video..
@jaysprezz7733
@jaysprezz7733 4 года назад
2 Problems with these food delivery services. 1. The restaurants could start doing it themselves. 2. Amazon could come in and obliterate everyone.
@georgesamaras2922
@georgesamaras2922 4 года назад
Amazon may deliver groceries although the margin on delivering low value items are not great for end consumers. Who would pay delivery for a bunch of brocolies vs ordering food for a week, and with freshness and all you don;t want to overstock your fridge. Also food gets cold. They only guy actually could have an edge in delivering food fast is musk. Imagine autonomus teslas using tunnels and heat from battery to deliver food warm, fast, even then you need high value food such that trasport cost is like 10% of total cost or it doesn't make sense. Valuetainment guy talked about private chefs idea. Maybe combine the 2 and have some business although its tough. Name the stock TeleGordon or something, watch robinhood traders flow :P. Or maybe deliver the food with drones.
@laylaw1507
@laylaw1507 4 года назад
$$$$$....45% drop today.
@bigjohn7451
@bigjohn7451 4 года назад
Short sellers ..bad is good..and 10 year bull market..bullshit..several drops in market since then....remember ..just last December
@brendansmith7842
@brendansmith7842 4 года назад
Lol the stock tanks as he talks. Easy $$$
@abel3619
@abel3619 4 года назад
I support his decision to short grubbub. Not tesla tho
@MrBlueTimes
@MrBlueTimes 4 года назад
I agree hopefully he's seen the writing on the wall about shorting Tesla.. glad to see he's moving on
@ZombieLincoln666
@ZombieLincoln666 4 года назад
@@MrBlueTimes I doubt he's moved on
@Raison_d-etre
@Raison_d-etre 4 года назад
Maybe he'd heard something through the grapevines. 43.3%. Probably covered his position afterwards. I caught some of that.
@CarlosFlores-qc7bs
@CarlosFlores-qc7bs 4 года назад
Ok. As of Sept. Grub hub has stopped highing couriers in one of the bigest Markets, San Francisco. Post Mates, UBER eats and Caviar are still taking on delivery people via there app. No one is using there app/service.
@zakiadam3717
@zakiadam3717 4 года назад
Thanks to covid -19 All delivery services are working good.
@Styyy
@Styyy 4 года назад
Customers are wining in this they get discounts on food and saving fare to go to restaurant i believe only the losers are investor in these companies and Restaurant owners
@be4unvme
@be4unvme 4 года назад
just on the wining these perfectionist customers demand is making restaurant abandon the services
@Styyy
@Styyy 4 года назад
Luis Capellan Customer are always R I G H T 🤫
@dogestranding5047
@dogestranding5047 4 года назад
The investors are the owners of the business. Why should they lose just to benefit customers?
@daves7079
@daves7079 4 года назад
This whole business is a scam
@francsimari
@francsimari 4 года назад
Business Plans Gone Wrong
@FitnessPlanB
@FitnessPlanB 4 года назад
IM SHORT "JIM CHANOS" THERE IS BIGGER DEMAND DAILY FOR FOOD ESPECIALLY IN INNER CITIES AND STATES THAT HAVE LEGAL MARIJUANA DISPENSERS (AKA MUNCHIES). THIS GUY IS AN OLD FART PAST HIS TIME. FOOD DELIVERIES OR ANY DELIVERIES ESPECIALLY ON THE SMALL SCALE WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE AND GAIN MARKET SHARE FROM HEAVY TRANSPORT.
@ArendJanV
@ArendJanV 3 года назад
Me too! My opposite Chanos fund is up year after year.
@dzerres
@dzerres 4 года назад
shorting should be illegal. If you don't own a stock you should not be able to sell it or trade it.
@CoffeeRoamer
@CoffeeRoamer 4 года назад
grub hub can make tons of money with the traffic and app users... come on what better is amazon doing???
@nolanabell703
@nolanabell703 4 года назад
Ask him about Tesla 😆
@adamc2320
@adamc2320 4 года назад
He opened at $280 on that trade so it's worked out for him
@andrepoon
@andrepoon 4 года назад
Adam C Yep... and he has already covered his position... making short sellers who listened to him saying Tesla will go to zero and bunch of literally “Poor” suckers
@benjamin7114
@benjamin7114 4 года назад
@@andrepoon The price still went up to $350 after he bought so anyone who still followed his recommendation may have gotten at a better price . Stop being a bitter fanboy
@andrepoon
@andrepoon 4 года назад
@@benjamin7114 I'm not bitter... just talk to me in 12 months time! The stock Tesla is grossly undervalued... happy to wait
@ryandavies6243
@ryandavies6243 4 года назад
@@andrepoon Tesla is worth 0 😂
@FeatureRequest
@FeatureRequest 4 года назад
Jim Turbo Chanos
@mezzmarr1209
@mezzmarr1209 4 года назад
He’s probably not a customer.
@Sesamestreet9080
@Sesamestreet9080 4 года назад
I think it has to do with them being heavily in debt and making no profit to losing money
@js-cj4vi
@js-cj4vi 4 года назад
You are a low iq dumbfuck
@qwertyqart
@qwertyqart 4 года назад
So, this is Chanos. yeah, i agree with Chamath about him.
@jimbagss
@jimbagss 4 года назад
Grubhub will go bankrupt because of people like me in a small town i "worked" 27 hours one week and got paid $418 only took 20 orders. explain where Grubhub is profitable
@FitnessPlanB
@FitnessPlanB 4 года назад
You sound like a indolent millennial. Thats not bad for a side gig.
@FitnessPlanB
@FitnessPlanB 4 года назад
Try post mates it's better but all these delivery companies will only grow exponentially
@thevinceberry
@thevinceberry 4 года назад
that's $15 an hour, not bad for a side gig
@mezzmarr1209
@mezzmarr1209 4 года назад
Grubhub will change the business model of restaurants. In the future, restaurateurs will build non-dining room restaurants in industrial parks at 1/10th the cost per foot of high visibility retail, their margins will increase by incentivizing take out menu rates as their labor costs are reduced by 50% without waiters, busboys and others.
@tonysimon6312
@tonysimon6312 4 года назад
Mezz its already happening in Australia. 1 industrial unit ( 1 owner ) is opening 4 different restaurants, 4 different websites, same staff, with the costs of 1industrial unit. If one of the brands goes bad, they pull down the website and try another brand. Its a shame that the rents and overheads restaurants and cafe's are becoming too much. Its 1 more social activity gone. The delivery companies are the nail in the coffin for seated venues. At least people can spend more time at work now, and spend more time eating in front of the TV.....
@laxlyfters8695
@laxlyfters8695 4 года назад
@@tonysimon6312 awesome comment! I think this needs to happen in order for rents to lower. That model you mentioned is brilliant. Also to chime in here in Los Angeles strend vending is legalized and there are even street vendors that appear on the on demand delivery apps.
@be4unvme
@be4unvme 4 года назад
@@tonysimon6312 4 different restaurants in 1? so basically 4 shitty ass restaurant in 1. why not just settle with 1 and be really good at it
@tonysimon6312
@tonysimon6312 4 года назад
@@be4unvme I'm not saying its my preference, but that is the way restaurants are going. Those 4 shitty restaurant are now taking 100k a week, with no wait staff and factory rent ie. that's about 25% of retail rent. The 1 "really good" model you speak of is not sustainable for the operator any more. Greedy land lords and delivery demand has killed the "really good" industry and turned it into the "try to survive" industry. The consumer has decided that they would rather eat at home and are happy receiving the meals after 30 minutes on the back of a motor bike and still accept the quality. In Sydney today, I know of cafe's that are taking 25k a week and are considering closing their doors because they are losing money. I would prefer 4 profitable"shitty ass"restaurants than a broke ass "really good" one
@be4unvme
@be4unvme 4 года назад
@@tonysimon6312 oh really? did the owner tell you that himself? cut the bullshit
@NoobTradingNQ
@NoobTradingNQ 4 года назад
why would grubhub want to be profitable right now. look at amazon i bet he was saying the same shit back when it was also 60 dollars
@1pgeorgy
@1pgeorgy 4 года назад
Dream
@ZombieLincoln666
@ZombieLincoln666 4 года назад
Dumb analysis. Amazon was also cash flow positive
@royreyes8422
@royreyes8422 4 года назад
jan 29 2020 Tue $57 looks like hes covering this bounce time t load up
@nordtaka6456i
@nordtaka6456i 4 года назад
us. heve. Problem. EXPORT. Then. QE. make. import. more. all. push. forex. high Any. External. Shock Do
@pkasb90
@pkasb90 4 года назад
If they aren't making money how on earth can be trading at $62?
@amabdall
@amabdall 4 года назад
@@jorgearellano9204 P/E 218!!
@pkasb90
@pkasb90 4 года назад
@@amabdall ... writing is on the wall. Sell while it's still at $62.
@echochoi
@echochoi 4 года назад
LMAO
@dividendincome9685
@dividendincome9685 4 года назад
Do the opposite of everything Chanos says and you’ll become wealthy.
@ArendJanV
@ArendJanV 3 года назад
After China and Tesla, another horrible call from Jim. His arrogance keeps getting him in trouble.
@italianadventurer1157
@italianadventurer1157 2 года назад
aged not well
@VGSoundFX
@VGSoundFX 4 года назад
Completely disagree with his statement. There are so many worse tech app stocks and ipo’s. Grubhub makes a profit. Uber is losing billions a year. Food delivery future looks good as well
@aklar_45
@aklar_45 4 года назад
I wonder how much they lost shorting Tesla
@adamc2320
@adamc2320 4 года назад
He's up money on that trade, he opened at $280 a number of years ago. As you can probably tell the stock has gone pretty much nowhere since 2016.
@aklar_45
@aklar_45 4 года назад
@@adamc2320 still they have to pay interests so its hard to say
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 4 года назад
Probably made a killing. Depends when he bought and if he sold yet. I assume he could have sold at that low. If he shorted from near the top, wow.
@petecheng1
@petecheng1 4 года назад
Uber buying them at $70/share, Chanos must be crying... not his fault.
@RotimiOrimoloye
@RotimiOrimoloye 4 года назад
I've seen this clown that calls himself a journalist bring up Chanos (and vehemently defend him) in several interviews with guests talking about Tesla (Carl Icahn, Chamath, etc). Why on earth will he not ask him about his position against #Tesla? If he is not a paid tool? Soul-less journalism!!!
@jesselivermore2291
@jesselivermore2291 4 года назад
tesla is going sideways and soon to go down, its garbage.
@RotimiOrimoloye
@RotimiOrimoloye 4 года назад
@@jesselivermore2291 Just keep repeating that to yourself. Perhaps if you do it long enough, it could actually come true.
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