I love that you put the consumer first in your reviews. A lot of tech youtubers forget how their audience actually uses laptops. Yes, there are good laptops for heavy gaming or content creation, but 80% of people are just googling things and watching Netflix. A good laptop has to cover the basics first, then add the fancy stuff for specialised use. Keep up the good work Josh!
Spot on, all the Apple fanboys claiming that a macbook can render videos 5 seconds faster and can do calculation 3% faster. For an overall coverage of usage an Apple product is nowhere near a windows laptop in terms of browsing, media and gaming.
Josh, you made your mother proud, I think this was a very fair and accurate comparison. We're a dual platform household with my wife using Windows machines exclusively (desktop and laptop) while I use both a Mac desktop and laptop, and a Windows PC for those mission critical applications that Apple either can't adequately duplicate or simply cost too much to change. I think it's interesting that HP laptops were the example of poor design/quality choices because I stopped using their products several years ago for those reasons, around the time HP acquired Compaq.
I'm an engineering student, if you came to my university you would change your mind about how rare people using convertible laptops as tablets are. I'm not saying we are more than ipad users, but it's VERY easy to find someone like me who like to have one single device to take notes at lessons and do some programming, or cad, or even video editing (take an Asus flow x13 or x16 for example, it can do everything I need with ease). I'm looking forward to see the new surface laptop studio 2, as it has the best form factor for what I do, and packs a lot of performance in a very reasonable size
I have to agree with this I think it's a lot more common now to see 2 and 1. The laptops I saw the most where macbooks and some form of 2 and 1. More common at schools.
Same here. I use a touchscreen with pen input while studying physics. Being able to type an assignment, & use a pen to draw sketches & equations all one a single device is so much better than switching between multiple devices. Then being able to take a break & do some gaming is a huge bonus. I like being able to get everything done on a single device.
@@shubhayughosh4016 Microsoft Excel advance features work with PCs, not Macbooks. This is huge for professional analysts roles. I was a former health insurance underwriter and I cannot imagine not using those advance features. Macros, Pivot table, Vlookup, ...etc.
@@akin242002 Ohh interesting. I have barely ever used Excel but always heard that if you wanna use Excel just get windows, but i never quite unedrstood why. Thanks :> Still, the parent comment talks about HQ free software..and i would wager macOS has lots of free knick knacs if you search online enough (like small menu bar tools)
I like your decision making process. A lot of people find it quite difficult to switch from the ecosystem they are familiar with but if you are able to get past that the logic you present here is pretty spot on.
You should also mention one crucial downfall of M series Macs: if any of your soldered components in your Mac fails when you're out of warranty you're pretty much screwed as they can't be repaired or replaced. This is also valid for some Windows PCs too with soldered RAM.
With the exception of the Dell XPS 13 9315, the storage is at least removable, so if the SSD fails, it's a job that doesn't require an entire (and expensive) motherboard replacement. That's exactly why I don't buy Macs and I'm going with the Framework Laptop 16 when it comes out for preorder.
@@allknightlong84 Given the high cost nature of Macs, the abundance of budget options on Windows, & the wide ratio of Windows devices to Macs, i'd say it's a little daft to draw a simplistic comparison like that. Also, my 16 year old Sony Vaio is still going strong, & i've seen older laptops out there too.
@@MangoReader it's very good. My old laptop with a trash celeron can't handle windows 10 at full speed at all, and original features, like the touchscreen won't work at all. After I installed linux mint, it feels like i bought it new (no lag, better battery, all functions restored (cuz correct drivers)).
Your videos are simple, clear, straight to the point. In addition, the amount of thougt and effort you put into creating this quality content is really helpful. People, take a moment to appreciate this man's hard work and good energy. Thank you Josh
I am a student at industrial design and I use a Mac. From my experience I can say that a Mac laptop comes with more quality of life benefits but there are a lot of apps, especially in engineering that are windows only so I would personally add the price of $130 of Parallels to the price of the laptop since I consider it a must.
Yes also for students of microbiology, many programs in that field are windows-only. People with mac laptops sometimes literally needed to work together with people who had windows laptops to get the exercises done
What is the specific life of quality with a Mac, what we experience as windows users over and over again is that single macbook guy always finicking with settings to get things running. This happens without exception. Sometimes it is the wifi beamer he cannot connect, then he cannot share content in zoom or teams or any other app for that matter, or they ask for dongles that they forget to bring this day. and many many many other things.
I prefer a macbook for daily use. The portability and build quality is unmatched in my opinion. The one thing I absolutely hate about Windows and Linux laptops is power draw when unplugged. But I prefer having a Linux PC as a desktop computer.
A Macbook wasn't an option for me because of its terrible docker performance. I have to use x86 docker images, and my Linux laptop is way more performant than a M2 laptop by far. I ended up choosing a Thinkpad which isn't perfect, but doesn't have major flaws. And more important, it has a very good Linux compatibility.
My prob with Linux (Ubuntu, at least) on a laptop is the battery life, so I have to live with Hyper-V or remote desktop to an Ubuntu old desktop pc at home.
I’m fortunate enough to own these two specific models. I had my MacBook Pro before owning the Asus Zephyrus. I’m really happy with my MacBook Pro for productivity (analyzing data, making reports, programming, etc.). However, at some point of my life, I did not realize that I would need another operating system for specific Softwares during my engineering studies, so I had to get the Asus. Both computers are very powerful and do the job they are intended to very well. Both have pros and cons against each other, but I think the question on whether to get a MacBook or a PC should be based on the user’s needs and main purpose for it. Main point is, define what your needs are and then get the most appropriate computer for those needs.
Do you know if Macbooks have dished key caps, similar to Lenovo's high end laptops? I've never even seen a Mac in real life, and live far from an apple store.
Indeed, for 700-800$ band, you may easily find a PC laptop having an Nvidia RTX graphics card and 512 GB SSD. Besides, finding free software is very easy for Windows. New Intel and AMD Ryzen processors are also good. However, Apple M1-M2 chips are still very good for power efficiency, having very long battery lives.
Your channel is awesome bro! Such detailed explanation, extensive research, and paying attention to what the people really want and need. Keep up the good work bro!
I have many times planned to buy a Macbook. The difficulty of working with files on a MacBook stops me. I use TotalCommander all the time. I also noticed that there are programs(with whom I sometimes work) that are still not available on M-series processors. I'm also annoyed and repelled by Apple's petty deception --- they put slow memory or slow Wi-Fi or a slow card reader. Now they have put a very good screen, BUT they have added a “bangs” before and put a screen that is slow in response. Apple does some things great, BUT at the same time it does terrible things. He talks about the premium nature of his products and at the same time uses frankly old or bad components. Yes, those very expensive configuration fees. That's just terrible. And again, a deception when frankly slow memory is installed on the basic configuration.
100% agree that working with files and folders is a pain on Macs. Made worse by window management. The entire UX just feels tedious compared to windows.
If you need to manage files with 3rd party app, then the whole concept of the system is bad. Moreover, if you REALLY want to do that, there are plenty of apps that are on par or better, than Total Commander. Same principles, same shortcuts too. What is slow memory? Like you want to tell me you are going to notice difference between a theoretical 3000 MB/s (or faster) and 1500 MB/s when in reality, those are valid only for large streams (big big files) and most of the time you get 150 MB/s for smaller files on any SSD? Come on.
@@ZhuJo99 There is a comparison test and this test proves that the memory is slow in the base configuration. Apple's file system is disgusting and not active user friendly. Very serious backlog from Windows. Apple focuses on bloggers and photo and video content creators. The rest of the customers should suffer and suffer ... This extremely unpleasant attitude causes disappointment, misunderstanding and a lack of desire to use Apple products. Arrogance, arrogance and contempt from Apple .....
I feel you... Wtf is this Apple CloudStorage BS... They are obviously trying to get rid of the competition by putting physical restrictions on them so that we can all use iCloud Drive...
I was using the MI air 2 laptop before I switched to the 2023 MacBook Pro 16 inch. I don't mean that the MI one wasn't good but I chose Apple because of the productivity it offers and also the sleek appearance it owns. Although my current Macbook is equipped with the M1 chip it doesn't make any capricious difference with the M2 chips.
I stumbled upon your video while searching for information on my old Dell XPS 9530 and I must say, it was a pleasant surprise to see straightforward and honest reviews on laptops now these days. Your review was insightful and informative, and I appreciate the effort you put into providing a detailed overview of the product. However, I think it makes a lot more sense to hold onto old laptops as long as possible and upgrade them (if they can be upgraded) as needed. As someone who is still using an XPS 9530 after almost 10 years, I can attest to the fact that these machines can still perform well for everyday tasks such as office work and even some CAD and engineering work.
I sent my laptop in for a battery replacement battery thru Dell a year ago, which was too much at around $350 (expired warranty and w shipping ), but still better than buying a new laptop. I can second upgrading your current laptop however you can
Software/OS reliability is a key too, small reference case yes, but varied brand/component PC's here at work are more reliable in this regards vs the Macs in work environment here. The Mac's can't run any hardware machines either, so service more basic needs too, which is a good thing as that would cost money in errors and productivity. OS basic software stability is a basic I feel.
Josh I really appreciate how you focus on the basics and help people like me get past the analysis paralysis rabbit hole that is laptop shopping. I need a portable machine to compile and run an Unreal game in active development while away from the office on a business trip, but I also want that same machine to be lightweight and comfortable to use on a plane or from a cafe for writing code and docs and emails for hours. Once I make up my mind I'll use your affiliate link and make your mom proud.
Thanks for another great video, Josh! I'd really like to see a Linux laptop comparison on your channel some time. Tuxedo, System76, Slimbook, Purism, Juno, HP, Lenovo, Dell might be some contenders.
For upgrades a cheaper gaming laptop is great, you can add memory and storage. I am happy with my Lenovo Legion 5 Ryzen 5. Good battery life and good performance.
I don't like the idea of soldering the SSD on to the motherboard. I absolutely wll not buy any laptop with the soldered SSD. So I'm stuck with Windows laptop lol.
Of course, it is worth mentioning a very large amount of various and FREE software on laptops with Windows. Personally, I do not want to pay for programs and applications when there are free ones.
From a Mac user that never spends on programs and application's: it's simply not true that you have to spend in order to get programs. For almost every program you can think of there's an open source alternative that's at the same level if not better than the paid counterpart.
@Ivan Piri The problem is that some of them, like GIMP, have had trouble getting Mac developers, so the macOS ports are often running via Rosetta 2, don't run properly, don't run at all, or worst of all, are discontinued. Another example would be some FOSS IDEs.
what about the people like me who use laptop for watching videos and web browsing rarely use laptop for gaming should I buy Mac or a window laptop. I just only need a really good display and speakers under 1800 dollers.
Thank you. One important aspect not mentioned. Ecosystem and related learning curve to switch it. If somebody is comfortable with windows and used it for years, switching to mac could be painful at least 1st few weeks. Also applies vice versa.
Sure the Apple chips are amazing, but if you want a decent amount of RAM and SSD, it just gets way too expensive and you basically don't have anything under 1500-2000€. I'm really happy with my Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 ProX with 6800HS/16GB/1To, great 3k 120Hz screen and good build quality / keyboard trackpad. I paid 1200€. I don't think I could get anything that comes closes from Apple at this price point.
I don’t care. It one time pay. It pays itself by one invoice (or even less, depends on the configuration). Than it earns money for more time than any PC. And after 4 years or more, you will still sell it for nice money. Heck, I sold my 2015 MBP 13” for 350 euros few months ago. You will have a hard time to sell PC that is 3 years old. And as I said, it pays itself by one invoice. Then it earns money. Heck, my main computer paid itself 50x over it’s lifetime (since 2018) and it was way above 2000 euros. So I don’t give a shit.
If you are wondering, I’m a web developer in Slovakia, so no huge income in comparison to ie Germany. Not bad, sure, way above the average, but still. Say something above in between 2-3k euros
@@ZhuJo99 For a professional use, things are obviously different, but still, I like to pay the right price. I don't see how I would significantly benefit from the extra money needed for a Macbook. However, I did spend a lot of time finding the right Windows laptop for me.
Tomatot - What is the fan noise like on your Lenovo? Specifically the pitch? Some laptops have a really high pitched fan almost like an jet engine. Not a white noise type of whoosh. I can’t use laptops with a high pitch fan.
I have an old macbook pro and hp x360, needed to upgrade and went straight for HP Envy with i5 12th gen, 16 gig ram, 500 gb ssd with rtx 2050, face login with ir camera, sleek metal body, Oled, comes with tilt pen with same price as macbook air m2 after sale discounts, so much better value and great experience!
I used Dell and Asus laptops for the last 15 years. I recently bought an M2 Air…and it’s a world of difference. Just as an example I was traveling yesterday, working remotely at different locations, did 2 one hour zoom calls, came home, continued working and was still at 52% battery by the time I was done. Basically a full work day and the lap top was ready for another day. There’s no noise from fans, the cam is great, and it just looks great. Pretty happy with the switch.
It honestly does not matter which one you go with. However, with the new M architecture from Apple, Virtualization can sometimes be a problem for AARCH64/ARM64. From a developers perspective, macOS is amazing, even though it is a subset of Unix, I much prefer open source Linux variants like Ubuntu or Fedora. I think most people from what I remember in my computer science program used a Mac or a PC with Linux on it. They are all great machines.
As a long time Windows laptop user once I used Apple silicon laptops that was the game changer. Great performance, battery life, amazing screen, best in class touch pad and quiet!
I need a laptop that is light, good at doing basic tasks, has seamless operation, and can integrate easily with my iPhone. I guess I’m going to get a used or refurbished MacBook Air.
I just don’t agree with the suggestion that “everyone else” should go Apple. Full disclosure - I am a long-term Apple user who is now for the first time in some time actually thinking about going back to Windows. Many people will be used to using Microsoft software for documents and spreadsheets - the main use for the vast majority of laptops after web browsing and videos. There is just no doubt the MS software is the best - or at least the most mature. Certainly better than pages etc and google docs etc. There is also no doubt that it that software subpar on Apple products. Even worse so if you want onedrive integration, as so many businesses now require - it is absolute rubbish on Apple - this is coming from someone who uses this all day every day on an M1 Max. Granted, that is partly because of Microsoft has not yet caught up - but it won’t because Windows is its main business. Lots of other developers are struggling to make their software run as efficiently on Apple - a good example is Adobe (Adcrobat DC is still hella slow!) Combine that with Apple making silly decisions eg no external drives to be able to host cloud storage - ridiculous when you consider how expensive Apple storage is, and that it is not upgradeable. So yes if you have a lot of money to spend, Apple will work just fine, probably - or possibly. But should that sector buy Apple? Ridiculous to suggest that is their only realistic option. Sounds a bit shill-ish I'm afraid
Most often: once you go mac, you don't go back. Such was the case with me aswell especially after M1 chips. Bought base m1 air and boy this is still the best purchase I ever made. Runs anything thrown to it as a fullstack developer (2-3 servers , multiple browser tabs, slack, few docker instances, etc) and its 8GB RAM surprisingly never runs out of memory for my use. And then its battery that almost runs 2 working days between charges. I don't know any windows laptop that could do the same at such price point and feel as sturdy at the same time.
OS is more important. You should get a laptop that will best support your OS of choice. For me this means full AMD PC for Linux. Bought Yoga Slim 7 Pro and I don't regret it.
Right like the reason why I bought a Mac is because I’m a musician and I need my music production to just function. I don’t want to mess around with drivers. I just need my stuff to work. I wouldn’t necessary recommend a Mac to everyone but if they need something that just works, I would recommend a Mac.
What more can give me MacBook than my HP pavilion gaming which price is about 600$ ? The price of a zen book 14 with 16 gig of ram and 512 ssd and same display resolution is like basic MacBook Air and ram and ssd are upgradable. Except battery life no real advantage of Mac over it and with both can do everything I need.
I recently had to make this decision for myself. - Musts for me were a large screen, high resolution, mini-led or oled. My usage case is what you refer to as the basics. Price was next big factor. As much as I loved the 16" MacBook Pro, I was firm that I wasn't going to pay $2500. In the end, I picked up Samsung's new Galaxy Book3 Pro for $1500. I've been very happy with my decision. The biggest weak point from my perspective, were the speakers. However, I mainly use it in my office at home, where I have access to my nice headphone setup. - With that being said, I'm super happy with it. I really love the keyboard. I had a Yoga in the past, and the shift key was a different size. I didn't think it would be a big issue, assuming I would get used to it. Boy was I wrong. It caused constant issues while typing. Another thing I've been really happy with is the touch pad. Palm rejection has been really good. It's huge and tracks perfectly. I've also enjoyed playing around with Windows 11. I had been in the Mac world for the past 2 years. So it's been fun seeing how things have changed over the years (yes for the better, in my opinion).
Personally I came up with 15 reasons why PC is better, I will paste the text here to read for you and others Just Josh. Reasons why Windows is better than Mac OS. 1. There’s no option in the finder window for documents. Not even in the custom side menu options for the finder! 2. Macs are more expensive than Windows PCs. 3. You can game on Windows and get more games on Windows! Steam, Epic, EA. 4. The minimize, maximize, and close option are on the left instead of the right. Plus, the close button doesn’t really close, the real way to close is you have to top bar and click the application name and then press quit which is irritating! 5. Intel core i7, i9, xeon, and AMD Risen R7, R9, and thread ripper give more performance and are better than Apple M series ARM processors. 6. You can customize a PC by adding more ram, changing out the GPU, CPU, hard drive, the motherboard, the power adaptor, and even adding a DVD drive! You can’t do any of these on Mac with there M processors. 7. There are more options on Windows PCs. Dell, HP, Lenovo, Asus, Acer, and many more. Also more options of how powerful it is. 8. There are more freeware programs available for Windows. 9. Windows has a big backwards compatibility! DirectX is supported a lot because Microsoft made it. Got old games? DirectX 1 to 11 is all there, just instantly accept the installation of it. 10. The Apple mouse is kind of odd. One click, no second click, no wheel! 11. There are more developers on Windows and thus more application programs are available on it. 12. There are no USB3 inputs on Macs. Sure the Mac mini, but that’s it. All the other Macs only have thunderbolt4 which uses the same technology as USB-C. So you have to buy a stupid add on just so you can use an external hard drive or hook up a printer or anything else! 13. Windows has snap so you can snap your applications to fill screen, left, right, 3rd of screen and other options. Mac doesn’t have that at all! 14. PCs offer more options to select your device’s screen size, resolution, thinness, touchscreen capabilities, port types, and color. 15. PCs have more ports in general. USB3, USB2, ethernet, HDMI, display port, and more USB inputs than Macs have ever had. Spec for spec, PCs are ALWAYS CHEAPER!!!
MSI Sword owner here. Actually, a white keyboard is the reason I bought this machine in the first place. I just love white machines and software because I work in a well-lit room, and there is a lot of light around me, so a glowing keyboard isn’t necessary for me. Upgraded SSDs and RAM already and use it for 2D- and 3D animation as well as some gaming in the morning. The speed of the fans is adjustable, so there are no problems there. I rarely travel, but a 42 cm (17 inches) built-in screen comes in handy when I do. I worked with Macs previously for creative tasks. They’re fine. But I’d rather keep my PC laptop-I’ve got all I need. High performance and acceptable mobility (as mentioned, I travel rarely). Also, a black keyboard is not for me. If Apple makes white keyboards... I might change my mind in the future.
I'm actually the perfect person for a Mac, an academic who mainly uses a browser, Office, and music streaming. But, I don't want to get stuck in the Apple ecosystem. I went from Surface Laptop 1 to ThinkPad X1 Nano. I decided I wanted something bigger for side by side documents, so I bought a ThinkPad Z16 from the Lenovo Outlet to join the Nano. For $1100 plus tax, I got 32GB of RAM, a 2TB SSD, switchable graphics, and the 4K OLED screen. This is certainly overkill for me, but I think I'd rather have a computer that easily can do more than I need of it now, and doesn't slow down on those occasions when I edit photos. I like the ThinkPad keyboard and the trackpoint. I have a dock with a power button that turns on and off the laptops, so it works pretty well. Should I just have gotten a 15 inch MacBook Air? Probably. It would have better battery life and no fan noise. But I don't like the Mac keyboard, and I don't like the notch and menu bar.
I just don't like the user experience on MacOS tbh. It's not as customizable operating system as Windows 10. And I'd have to either emulate Windows bc I'd be stuck w an ARM chip, and Linux on ARM sucks rn afaik. KDE Plasma & other distros are v Mac like, but with more customizability. (And the headaches of using linux lol)
I agree 100%. I never really liked the macOS workflow or the need to pay for tools just to make macOS usable (like Bartender to overcome the notch issue or Magnet to get proper snapping support). And then there's now the lack of Boot Camp support and Linux support being still not quite ready yet. Those are enough deal breakers to not buy Macs for me.
Biggest issue for me when switching from PC to Mac was the key mapping for development work. Such a pain. Still, build quality is so far ahead of any PC Laptop and is worth the price.
@@Laurzure Maybe, My expereience is with HP's and Dell's which are trash after 3 years. (probably by design as it aligns with local tax depreciation schedules). I've a mid 2015 MacBook Pro which is as good as the day i got it. My son had an Asus (12 months before the battery failed) and a Lenavo which to be fair held up ok for a good 5 years.
I went from a Macbook Pro to a PC laptop, and am now considering returning to Mac. My Dell Inspiron 13 7000 ran alarmingly hot from day 1 and the fan noise is super annoying. The other thing I didn't expect was the very poor sound quality of the Dell speakers. My phone provides 3 to 4 times the volume. It makes watching a movie very frustrating on the Dell. I completely agree with what you said about the importance of getting the basics right. It's essential! However, how much RAM do I need? My previous Macbook Pro froze up with 8G during an Apple operating system update (those updates seem to occur way too often). But then there's the service that Apple provides... I can't decide! It's giving me a migraine!
I have my IMAC since 2015 and we are in 2023 and my computer still running strong no problems. I cannot say that about previous PC I have owned almost all of them crapped out after 4 years of ownership. Yes Mac is more expensive but you get FREE operating system updates. They last twice as long without have the same problems as PC.
Yesterday, I bough an Inspiron 16 with 16/1T for $699. The equivalent in a MacBook Air 15 M2 is an additional ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS. How does one justify that?! 🤦♂️
Review on build quality, comfortable and look good, the percentage of people using tools for content creation are small niche, Windows laptops have variety of brands, the deeper your pocket the better you get and the real productivity you produce for the real world
For me, using Apple products is a no-go until they start working with Unreal Engine, even though I'm very interested in the M2 chip. Without that compatibility, I can't use the software I need for my work.
I tried Chrome, Linux but still went back to Windows every single time. I haven't tried Mac, I don't use an iPhone. Thus, I am not sure about the learning curvy of Mac.
Really, really, clear and hugely useful informed and informative exposition. Above all, concise and to the point without the usual garble of technical numbers, data and performance statistics which mean little of nothing to of us that actually need advice rather than endorsing preconceived ideas. Many thanks, Josh. From a truly confused place, I had made up my mind which to buy by the end of the video. 👍😃
Thanks Anthony. Your comment means alot. It's a delicate balance to communicate in a way that is easy to follow but also at times has the necessary data as evidence of what I'm saying
or you can have the best of both worlds - a hackintosh :P (typing from one lmao). get the highest end best built windows laptop (XPS 13 in my case, i love the unibody aluminum & carbon fibre), install macOS ventura, and now I have the world's only mac with a 4k touchscreen. heh. everything works perfectly too! dare i say, faster than windows ran on this even.
I think I’ve seen the perfect laptop that you and all of us are looking for. I believe we would greatly appreciate a review of the new Lenovo slim pro 9i. I can’t get it until you approve of it. It’s not officially released yet though
@@JustJoshTech If you get a chance, please check out the Lenovo Yoga 7 Gen 8 14" AMD 7000 series. On paper it ticks every box for my needs, but I haven't seen any reviews of it yet, & I'd be keen to get your view.
Great video. You forgot to mention that MacOS isn't compatible with most of the world. PC runs everything. Mac is so restricted that it's better to get an apple and run windows on it
I use a m2 mac mini for daily use tasks and media consumption and a pc gaming laptop the Asus g14 2022 edition he is showing in video for gaming and productivity work works great for me!
Water cooled gaming pc -for games and windows only programs and the aesthetic of a custom water loop. MacBook pro -portability, music , movies, web browsing and as a back up if my pc goes down.
I get a macbook m2 pro 2 days ago from my company after I changed my job position to the developer team. After two day I can tell about pro's and cons which I have noticed so far. The fact that there is no fan noise is one of the biggest benefits for me. But why the heck is the window management on macos is so complicated, was my first thoughts. I think after some time i will get used to it but after 20-25 years of windows it is very hard. So I can recommend for students buy a macbook air and get used to it as early as you can.
@@proksalevente Thank you. I have already heard about Rectangle and also Spectacle but unfortunately I have not found the time to try it out yet. I just asked chatgpt again what the differences are and was going to try spectacle. However, it seems that spectacle is no longer maintained actively.
I agree. I go back and forth between a Mac Mini desktop and a Lenovo Win 11 laptop at the office. Win 11 out of the box is much better with window management. But I finally got used to using Magnet and now have those key combinations down for much more efficient window management on the Mac.
@@CycleDoc675 I am cycling to between a managed HP laptop and the "light managed" MacBook at the moment. Office work like webex meetings and E-Mail management I have to do with the HP. I have also a 5 years old Acer Aspire and two external monitors. When I connect the mac over a Dockingstation with my external monitos, which have "only" full hd resolution you can see a huge difference. So I am thinking about to replace the two 24' monitors with a 32' 4k monitor. But I have to check the Acers max. resolution because 1920x1080 would be very bad solution on a 32' monitor/display.
Other stuff I like about Macs: thermals much better, fan noise non-existent, better keyboard, a better trackpad, ecosystem, ease of use to repair (5 Apple Centres within 20 miles), better performance per watt, quality; my last three Lenovos BSOD, my MB Pro 15 is 6.5 years old and still going as a desktop with my MB Pro 13 M1. Also, prefer software and mac)S versus Windows, though W11 is much better than W8 and early W10. Easy win for Macs, and I use both.
@@andyH_England Thermals and fan noise are not something I'd consider a win for Macs unless they're being compared to the worst or old Windows laptops. There's quite a few Windows laptops that have a fanless design, and some (like gaming laptops) that have very powerful cooling. The trackpad in Macs is probably about as good as the best Windows laptops, but it is not better (I'd probably call it a tie between the Surface Laptop 5 and a new Macbook Pro). Ecosystem - depends on what you're using it for, I'd probably consider Macs better for graphic design and medical imaging software, about the same for most other things, and a loser for gaming. Ease of use to repair? are you kidding me? Louis Rossman will probably tell you they're the worst for ease to repair, they seem to be increasingly designed with a view towards forcing you to get a new laptop rather than having it repaired, and if they can be repaired it will be at a high cost - definite win for PCs there (check the Framework laptop). Performance-wise they're not as good as a Windows gaming laptop if your needs require high performance. I'm forced to use a Mac because of work so I have experience with both OS, prefer Windows 11 - might be down to my software needs.
QVC is advertising a 2023 Apple MacBook Pro 13" M2 256GB with Accessories and Voucher today October 29, 2023 for $$1,579.98. I have a HP desktop and a HP 17 inch laptop. I am not spending a lot of money to purchase an Apple. I hope the Sony M5 Noise Canceling Headphones go on sale this Black Friday 2023 at Best Buy because they currently are too expensive at $399.99 at Best Buy. QVC and HSN has some great Black Friday 2023 sales on Apple 13 inch laptop. However, I would prefer a 16 inch larger screen Apple PC.
I disagree about the content creation as the NVIDIA RTX laptops are better for content creation in terms of speed (well, depending on the type of content you're creating the RTX machines might not be necessary. Like if you're not doing 3D rendering then the mac might be the right choice)
Thanks for dropping by. We only use the best here ;) btw something random.... about 18 years ago, I opened for you guys in a nghtclub in Sydney, Australia
As a Content creator and gamer, I'll have to choose both of them, for the mac is because of the reliability of the system and how you can work without being plugged in. For the windows is because the games are more compatible with the system and as you said, to be able to upgrade any of the components.
Before you even tested , the left side silver one looks so much prettier than the right white one. Why’s the enclosing (screen and keyboard’s) gap so big? And then I saw the Apple logo. 😂 id choose the Mac cuz it looks so much better
Your delivery is so rehearsed and artificial, I was reluctant for the longest time to subscribe. But you nailed this video so hard, I mean... I'm absolutely not an Apple fan. I only use MBPs at work because my employer makes it mandatory for the engineering staff. At home it's always a desktop PC and not because I'm a big gamer or anything. But recently I've been researching for a new laptop and I'm so demoralized by the PC offerings that I've seriously considered getting a MBP. Something I never thought I'd do. Ever. Your video really helped. I subbed. :)
maybe a word about second hand macs... the new M chips mean more people are upgrading and there are some decent cheap old macbooks... this one I'm using is 2015 mbp, which is still great.
Im a muscian who is constantly on the road traveling for work. I have a newer Alienware laptop and honestly, its great and easy to use but frustrating i cant use it on airplanes or vehicles... it literally has to be plugged in at all times or the battery dies super quick or the CPU crush in a DAW while un plugged makes it impossible. Like i said, great for gaming and portability but i always have to search for a plug in or else i know the clock is ticking. Looking into these M1 mac book pros or even maybe wait for the new M3 later this year. My worry is, switching over
I agree with much of what you're saying. I do believe apple gets it almost all right, though, that the right to repair/upgrade was a subject that you could have addressed. You mentioned the upgradability for Macs as the one time you can do so at purchase, but not the upgradability options for pc's throughout their life, plus the right to repair at reasonable prices. Personally, I'm a Mac person because of the ecosystem. But my 2016 macbook pro had so many issues with the keyboard and then the battery and costs to repair were crazy. So switching to a pc has been much easier. I got a free laptop (the mac was free too btw) from my office and just fixed it up with more ram and SSD, a new battery, all for less than $200. That is for me the biggest issue today with Apple. It calls for a complete conversation in itself. Right to repair.
Well I hate to blow money. I live in Canada and went on Best Buy, for info. The cheapest Mac laptop was a 3-year-old Air for $1300. A comparible Windows 11 (newer?) laptop (same memory, SD, and screen, and an i5 (inferior to M1?) was $699.
Josh, how would your recommendations change with the rise of cloud gaming? For example, I’m all in on the Apple ecosystem for music production and occasional gaming via Boosteroid. Feels like cloud gaming services opened up the gates to a stable gaming experience with the Liquid Retina screens
I came here expecting a biased video and biased comments in the comments section. I'm actually very impressed by the video. It seems to be very informative, without being overly biased. I'm also impressed the comments section seems to be fairly respectful and filled with well thought out comments, instead of openly vitriolic commentary.
This guy is great at giving a balanced opinion which is rare these days as normally its like mac is the greatest thing or the worst thing...no different laptops for different people
Generally agree, except for the speakers. So long as you can hear what another person is saying in a video call that's all that matters. Any self respecting person claiming to enjoy good sound would laugh at the sound quality coming from any laptop speaker. Do yourself a favour and get some quality cans instead with a USB DAC. Although I agree the MacBooks are the best quality built laptops around, lately I've been leaning towards Frameworks laptops do to the DIY nature of the product. Only real issue with this laptop is the screen, which appears to be behind the times. But adding your own memory, storage and configuring it how you want is a lot cheaper than on manufacturers' PC offerings and a hell of a lot cheaper than the Apple price gouging for upgrades. Only other issue with the Framework is the battery capacity, which is low for non ARM laptops. Not to mention the additional costs one needs to incur on the Apple side to run Windows programs. And how about old software on the Mac side that was optimized for Intel based Macs. As an example, using a perpetual license version of Photoshop or Lightroom and refusing to switch to subscription based versions due to the licensing differences. I want a MacBook that offers a reasonable option for upgrades or reasonable upgrade prices from Apple, a touchscreen and not have to incur expensive software upgrades in order to use Windows programs. The closest I've seen from Apple are refurbished models offered on the Apple store. BTW, another thing in favour of MacBooks you didn't mention was the lack of useless bloatware that comes on many PC laptops.
