Should Romex Be Stapled Neatly? DOES IT MATTER??

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We electricians hear about this phrase "do all electrical work in a workman like manner" from the NEC, so here's my thoughts about how it applies to the aesthetics of running Romex (NM cable).
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There are two schools of thought out there from a lot of electricians, have to think it doesn't matter what the wires look like because they're going to get covered up by sheet rock and the other half think everything that you do matters and that you should take pride in everything that you do. But I offer up a third option, take time and do things well but don't take so much time that you're wasting money.
A great electrician is somebody that can efficiently do correct work as quickly and neatly as possible. The reason people choose to hire professional companies because they can do amazing work in a very short amount of time, and because they've built a reputation on doing quality work. I'm from the school of thought that all of the work that I do needs to impress me. If it impresses me it will most likely impress other people. And the people that I want to impress or my customers, and inspectors.
When you just slap things together in a very sloppy manner it makes an inspector want to take a closer look at everything you do because they realize you are just a fast worker and you don't care about the quality of what your work looks like to others. So if you don't care about what other people think of your work you're not going to care what you think of it either. I think it's extremely important to care about the quality that you provide as an electrician.
Article 334 of the NEC talks about all of the different approved means of stapling Romax, and nowhere in there does it state it needs to be neatly stapled. The only mention of stapling is to make sure that flat cables are not stapled on edge, rather they are stacked on their flat edges on top of each other. This leaves a lot of leeway for strapping. This can cause a problem however because people tend to put far too many pieces of Romax together when running them through walls or securing them in groups. There is a rule for bundling conductors and you do have to D rate your conductors if you put too many of them together in any lengths exceeding 24 inches. Many people don't do this, and it's going against code when they do...regardless of how pretty it looks.
Doing work that looks neat is great, however, doing work that meets code is the higher priority. I do think both can be achieved, and that is what a great electrician should strive for.
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@jasonmeissner1711 3 года назад

Just passed my FIRST electrical inspection yesterday. I’m a homeowner who was able to pull the permit and do the work myself. The inspector asked if I did the work, and I thought he was going to nit-pick all my work since I’m not licensed. Instead, he told me my workmanship was A+. I did everything based on how you’ve done in your videos. Thank you for showing how things SHOULD be done.

@tedbownas2748 3 года назад

I've done my own work in my own home and for friends for years, and friends asked me to help work on a house they bought to flip this year. I've never been through an inspection before either, so I was a little worried. But the inspector was awesome; he pointed out a couple very minor things I had to correct, and he complimented me on neatness with cable runs, stapling, and the breaker panel layout. Huge relief!

@abdulelkhatib2674 3 года назад

thats great inspections always go good when your work looks neat no matter what

@spencerwyche2552 3 года назад

What state allows home owners without a master's to pull electrical permits?

@obsoleteprofessor2034 3 года назад

I did my first house at 16. The inspector, who was a career electrician found a few mistakes and gave me his copy of the NEC and told me to read certain sections. He said if he told me up front I wouldn't learn anything. The work passed 2nd inspection. My biggest job was a 100 unit complex and when power was turned on there were 3 faults...all caused by nails. One nail pierced circuits from opposite units and power was on in both with the main off in either. Lucky it was the same phase. The other nail sheared a wire in 2 and half the plugs were out.

@SuckMySweatyBallz 3 года назад

So I just finished wiring a new house and I didn't use any staples at all. I just ran the wires and left them where they hang. Everything ohmed out so we're running with it. Took 2 hours to wire the entire house. Phuck it muhahahahaha

@spitzmachine 3 года назад

NEC 110.12 supports your attitude, “Electrical equipment shall be installed in a neat and workmanlike manner.”

@DJAnthonyAlvarez 3 года назад

Learn this in my class first day lol

@DKhoe539 3 года назад

Correct my friend

@juanjuarez3694 3 года назад

Ahhh you beat me to it, lol

@justinandrade2299 3 года назад

This is one thing I always tell my helpers or "apprentices". It is CODE to do neat work. Other than that fact, it's a pride thing. It is just the fact that you can show your work, or know you did it right, and it makes you feel right.

@anthonyelectric6045 3 года назад

lol as I just was going to quote that phrase. 👍

@bradycarlson6061 3 года назад

Totally agree with ya. Making Romex look neat is probably one of my favorite parts of the job.

@ElectricianU 3 года назад

Me too =)

@thomasschneider1858 3 года назад

Doing it neat makes the inspector walk in and walk out.

@TheGalacticWest 3 года назад

Walks in. Makes U turn. Walks out.

@Master-ls2op 3 года назад

you also waste less material.... also saves time and money... its all in the prep... saves you when shit goes wrong.

@xtreme0915 3 года назад

Also makes troubleshooting easier as you can look at an area and actually tell what tf is going on. Or walking through on the rough and being able to see "Oh shit, I forgot to pull travelers" just because the box catches your eye. Not that I've ever forgot to pull travellers. Obviously

@treyhart6861 3 года назад

When the inspector walks in and the first thing he sees is a top notch, clean job, he will think the rest of the work was given the same level of detail.. When the inspector walks in and sees a jumble or wires, he thinks "what gems am I going to find today?!"

@TheGalacticWest 3 года назад

@@treyhart6861 not GC but don’t make money every time the comeback?

@FosterFarmsOk 3 года назад

I got in a habit and had my guys start labeling homeruns up in the attic. Makes it a lot easier to trouble shoot or add to the homeruns later on.

@awalllen212 3 года назад

At the very least number them ffs.

@1QMQY 3 года назад

Can’t say that enough to everyone that works in my surrounding area when I’m on a site. “TAKE PRIDE IN YOUR WORK”. That line that “who cares, no one is going to see it” is for HACKERS. One of the best feelings is when an inspector calls you to tell you or tells you at an inspection that they haven’t seen quality work like the one you have provided in a long time. Take Pride in Your Work. Great video like always, Love the work you put out & the RU-vid content. Thanks.

@1tallguy694 2 года назад

I am a mechanic and totally agree. Thanks for the videos dude! I'm wiring my own house with your help.

@Rorian5294 3 года назад

Any electrician that doesn't make their wires look neat probably bought their journeyman ticket up front, and I wouldn't want them back on any jobsite I work at. Take pride in your work, people.

@bbui1990 3 года назад

If you ain't gonna put your name on it .....

@HBSuccess 3 года назад

Always brother - 110%.

@anthonysmith9410 3 года назад

What do you mean bought their journeyman’s ticket?

@captaincanuck4576 3 года назад

Yeah that wiring is going to look really good under drywall. Conduit though is a different story,that has to look good.

@Hallo-yv1ks 3 года назад

Couldnt have said it better myself

@MarkLawry 3 года назад

I am not a licensed electrician, but I do some of my own simple work. A few years back when we added an addition on our house, the electrician asked if he could shut the whole house off to "clean up" the panel to make room for new circuits. Knowing he was coming, I took a "before" picture inside the panel. After he left, I opened it again and took an "after" picture. He had transformed a rats nest into a work of art. As an engineer, I knew how to make things functionally work, but I had never been shown how to do GOOD work. I have used those two pictures many times in classes I teach, to show students how to really "put your name on your work," in any discipline.

@bassntruck 3 года назад

As a fellow engineer, I rewired my entire house during a remodel as it must have been wired by a drunk hack. My local inspector came in and I passed with flying colors as he begged me to take up doing work in the area so his life would be easier. He ragged on how most of the people there were a hair above hacks who took no pride in their work and tried to hide issues all the time.

@fatherelijah1763 3 года назад

as another fellow engineer, not really never mind ☹

@NickFrom1228 2 года назад

@@bassntruck My dad had the same kind of experience, though he was the electrician. He was a master electrician that had gone off to do other things but would still help out with helping others wire homes. Union rules prevented him from wiring houses for people unless it went through the union and it would then be assigned to whomever was next on the list. So he used a workaround, but I digress. Anyway, whenever anyone who called for an inspection on work that my dad had done, the inspector (there was only one in this rural area for decades) would see my dads signature, sign off and leave. Wouldn't do more than look at the panel or something to see it was his work. Apparently in many ways, how you wire is like a bomb maker, its a signature that says who did it, at least in low populated areas like we were in. The inspector had commented to the owner of one of these houses that "I wish everyone wired like him. My job would be so much easier."

@bassntruck 2 года назад

@@NickFrom1228 I am also in a smaller rural area. Sadly, the inspector retired last year as he had been around for ages. The new kid that took his place knows next to nothing and is in way over his head. Being he knows and has seen nothing all he wants to see are stamped plans for everything. Want to build a 4x6 shed, stamped engineering plans. It is nuts.

@SIE44TAR Месяц назад

I’m also not an electrician, but I have completely gutted and rewired a house I bought as an investment property. It was my first, and the inspector was very impressed. Like you, I will eventually be shutting off the power to the 65 yr-old house we live in to gut and rewire it, as soon as the addition I’m currently working on is complete so we’ll have somewhere to live in the meantime.

@anrwhitehead 3 года назад

As a handyman, and a Jack of all trades, taking pride in your work helps out not only you but the next guy. I just started remodeling my house that was built back in 74'. they ran a constant hot to the ceiling fans in the bedrooms for a transformer on the wall to control the speed. As well as junction boxes everywhere in the attic to run power in a 1800sqft house on 20 breaker slots. Upgraded the panel to a 36 slot panel, as well as upgrading the outside to a 250A main. I has the inspector as about a few things and i had to let him know that it was to allow me to access and upgrade wiring as we progress through the house. my kids love the fact the can strip and sell the old wiring, and I'm going to enjoy the fact that the wiring is simple, and easy to read/follow.

@CU96821 3 года назад

Awesome, you hit the nail on the head with integrity and pride in your work! 👍

@markenna5955 3 года назад

The primary problem with our economy is the lack of quality in our products an services. We used to excel in the manufacture of superior products and workmanship. Thanks for being the exception and taking pride in your work, People like you will wake up others and we can prosper again

@DamionJR4923 3 года назад

There is almost no customer service anymore

@majstrujeme8352 2 года назад

With the exception of heavy equipment and aerospace actually no. Cars were crap cool looking but crap. Harleys Iconic but crap. Really no one would be looking for Made in USA prior to the flood of chinese products.

@JustLikeGreta 2 года назад

It's modern capitalism. If it's profitable, it's good. If it's more profitable, it's better. Damn the goddam morality. Greed is moral and greed is good. You can thank Ronald Fcking Reagan who (successfully) led the crusade to make greed a virtue. It's why everything you can see and touch is made in China and it's why healthcare can bankrupt you and destroy your life. And it's why there are 3 lobbyists for every Congress person. Vote Blue, ALL BLUE. Yes most Democrats are not much better but it's a start. Then get rid of the corporate loving greedy Democrats. You can't get rid of the stench until you unclog the toilet.

@caseycooper5615 3 года назад

Thanks for putting it so well. On my first job as an apprentice I ran cable to several Homeworks panels, ensuring everything was neat and clean, including the ledgerboard. My heart sunk when it was covered with insulation and drywall. Then I realized it mattered to me that it was done well, plus I had pictures. Even though it gets covered, I know I did it well. I've worked on many custom homes since then, where the homeowner visits. It matters to them the work looks neat and clean and gives them confidence in the installation. Ditto for the GC (although they also value work completed timely). Last bonus. Clean work is easier to troubleshoot. In fact, I've rarely had to troubleshoot clean work; gremlins seem to prefer bunched up wires, etc. Pride in good work means work that will give years of trouble free service.

@williamwinn2091 3 года назад

Love the attitude, I’m a electrician myself . It’s tough teaching the youngsters the proper way!!!! .

@illuzionz3404 3 года назад

I do HVAC and we come along and have to adapte to a lot of electrical work and we notice nice wiring and breaker boxes, it makes everyone’s life easier

@DT-kr1km 3 года назад

My first time really doing a lot of electrical work was when I finished my basement. My VERY picky friend taught me electrical and he was very specific so my sub panel, all my boxes, my feeder, the jetted tub cable, the speaker wires, the pellet stove thermostat wire, my routing, holes in framing, etc had to be perfect. The electrical inspector was very impressed and even said i should teach contractors how to run wire. I was very proud of that and I actually still today, 20 years later, fell that way. Just built my own house as the general, doing a lot of the work, including most of the electrical- other than another friend who was a licensed electrical contractor helping me a little. But that basement project still stands out for me.

@anttimaki8188 3 года назад

These US videos of fellow sparkies on the other side of world are fascinating. Different cables, different systems, different code, same workmanship. Good job man, neat stuff! Same principle apply here aswell; Your work shows your pride on what you do.

@johncantrell614 3 года назад

Pride in your work always produces the best work. Working quickly, but also neatly, says a lot about you, and even though it will be covered up later, those that do see it before then, like your boss, will remember it.

@thompsona10625 3 года назад

Agree completely! As a “do it yourself” guy, I have to impress my inspectors to pass inspection. In our area, the licensed electricians in the area are often sloppy but the inspector knows them and doesn’t look nearly as closely. Myself; however, has no flexibility extended to me so it must be right. I organize every wire, place them in the walls flat and untwisted, staple perfectly, and wind my wires within the boxes perfectly and when my rentals are inspected, the inspection says “wow!” and he then knows that I am meticulous. That earns me my “pass” and I have a product I can be proud of

@douglashernandez93 3 года назад

Neat is always Best. I like to use cable stackers when doing my Home run raceways with Romex. But the main thing for me is to secure my wires and keep them safely away from the others trades behind me. Sheetrock, cabinets, base and crown molding, even roofers. Good Job Man. I enjoy your videos.

@ElectricianU 3 года назад

I was going to talk about stackers in the video but I think it's best for the next one I do about Romex as a whole

@longshot7601 3 года назад

"...and keep them safely away from the others trades behind me." Damn plumbers. Turd chasers piss me off.

@wim0104 3 года назад

@@longshot7601 plumbers should go in before electricians. your enemies should be insulators, dry-wallers and cabinet-hangers.

@longshot7601 3 года назад

@@wim0104 On my jobs the electricians are there in the early phases all the way through the late phases. On commercial jobs the demo crew turns the site over to us we start laying out for switchgear and homeruns while staying out of the way of plumbers and mechanical subs per the MEPs. Other trades quickly find that they can work with me and I'll work with them or they can not. Some how things go more smoothly when they work WITH me. I'm always working with the GC so they tend to side with me.

@turbodave231 3 года назад

I love the topic! I am an automotive instructor and I like your mechanic analogy. I am also one of those fanatical DIY guys who like to do their own Electrical work (and every other trade as well). Your advice extends way beyond the electrical trade. Professionalism and Integrity are hard to teach (but not impossible).

@GND3153 Год назад

Repair or renovation without tearing up the walls is next to impossible if all the wires are stapled down. I don't like working behind guys like this.

@gerhardschemel3565 3 года назад

I just cringe when I hear, can’t see it from my house, good enough for government work and other such gems. When I started in the trade and getting paid in 1979 you would have to fix your bad/violation work on your own time. Always take pride in your work. You might not be able to make it perfect but you can always make it right. I first learned to have pride in my work from my Grandmother. I would ride with her sometimes when she went out with a punch list or put finishing touches on the houses we built in Arizona. The trunk of her Lincoln Mark III had all manner of materials from chunks of drywall to paint wood trim electrical devices. Wow what a beautiful memory I just had. Never really realized how much she has been an influence on me. Love you grandma thank you RIP

@Sparky-2036 3 года назад

There's two different levels of government work, the good enough contracts and the contracts where we secure rigid every 12 inches with two hole straps and run additional grounds for every feeder conductor including the neutral.

@kenbrown2808 3 года назад

mine is "I can see that @#%^ from my house"

@kaceyjones7694 3 года назад

“If it doesn’t look good, it isn’t good” is what I tell all my guys.

@MrDarthbader 3 года назад

I'm so thankful I've been working under a jman that takes pride in his work. Our company as a whole (boss included) works "to get the job done." "stop spending so much time in the panel, just get it on the breaker." "why are you spending so much time doing math for this one piece of conduit?" ect. I fucking hate it. I understand our job is to get the job done, but let me make my shit look good, it's not going to take that much more time. I'm glad there are others who take pride in their work too, because I would have been long gone from the trade as a whole if that wasn't the case. We are dealing with pixies that love to start shit on fire, that should not be rushed. Fuck your profit, you'll still get it.

@RB-xv4si 3 года назад

And if it does look good, it still might not be good.

@RB-xv4si 3 года назад

@@MrDarthbader you sound like you work where I work now. That’s why I want to go union. They won’t complain about time if you’re legitimately doing quality work.

@RB-xv4si 3 года назад

@CrashyK 😂

@juanlara4127 3 года назад

do not stop making electrician videos brother thank you for all that you have done!

@غالبغالب-ق1ض 3 года назад

The best thing to get is that dewalt staple gun it turn a few hours job into like 30 minutes to an hours. Very beneficial

@huejanus5505 3 года назад

Which staple gun is that?

@MikeSully01 3 года назад

@@huejanus5505 DeWalt makes a romex staple gun. Runs on a 20v battery. I don't have it, as I'm a commercial guy, but I know a resi guy that has one and he says its awesome.

@spencerwyche2552 3 года назад

I love this staple gun,Milwaukee definitely has to step up their game.

@غالبغالب-ق1ض 3 года назад

Yes and deed don’t leave home with out it. It makes the job look beautiful. Worth every penny No more hitting the thumb and fingers lol

@3n82 3 года назад

@@spencerwyche2552 yeah Milwaukee loves to come late to the game and charge way more for a bulkier product

@murphydowning8812 Год назад

I watch this one video and it makes me want to see EVERYTHING you put out there! Integrity is so hard to find these days... Thanks!

@benfowler2127 3 года назад

I will never forget the day that an inspector came to look at this one house we worked on. He walked into the garage, and the first and only word out of his mouth was WOW.

@holyninja3 3 года назад

Love this mind set! Doesn't matter the trade, 9 times out of 10 I will always go with someone who takes pride in their work and does it right and neat than the cheaper route!

@aaronraufman8092 Год назад

I'm a fixer for our crews and our expectations are what you're describing but I have come to prefer using as few staples as possible (more stack-its!) and finding opportunities to keep slack in the lines; for all practical, functional purposes. I appreciate being able to make minor adjustments to an install without having to re-pull wires and remove a butt load of staples along the way, just because someone thought it looked nice.

@shaneoakley8757 3 года назад

Hell yes it matters. We are electricians not plumbers!!

@ElectricianU 3 года назад

hahaha

@chrisv4640 3 года назад

Easy sparky don't make me throw turds at you lol

@kaneikaika 3 года назад

😂😂😂

@jacobplank 3 года назад

I'm all about making Romex look good! Kinda like a neat freak lol. If I pull wire across a ceiling I'll find a route where I can run several others right next to it going the same direction. Usually I just don't cut across any which way, it's a straight line. And I feel good about it when I'm done! Just about everyone comments on how neat and good of a job we do!! Take pride in what you do and set a good example to the ones around you!! Thanks Dustin for all your videos!!

@paullester59 3 года назад

Work is your signature. It is your calling card. I thought I was one of the few. Great video

@dougbourdo2589 3 года назад

Absolutely Spot On attitude. I visually inspected my home as it was being built. The electrical and plumbing work were works of art and solidified my confidence and satisfaction the the work that was done. Since, I have recommended the Electrician and Plumber MANY times to people who were building. The quality and neatness of the installations are truly examples of the professionalism of the installers. It also raises the intrinsic value of the structure. And, YES, inspectors DO take notice.

@Clyde1996 3 года назад

Your NEC code 334.30 is very similar to our CEC code 12-510(4) "Where cable is run to a switch or a receptacle specifically approved with an integral enclosure incorporating an integral cable clamp, the cable shall be supported by straps or other devices located within 300mm from the switch or receptacle wall opening and there shall be at least a 300mm loop of unbroken cable or 150mm of a cable end available on the interior of the finished wall to permit replacement." Our code for workmanship is 2-122 "The mechanical arrangement and execution of the work in connection with any electrical installation shall be acceptable." I always enjoy watching your videos, interesting to see the differences and similarities between the different code books.

@banjotramp1 3 года назад

"Can't see it from my house" is an expression I often heard on the job. And this was as a carpenter who did work that was the walls, not hidden inside. Also had the chance to do some very high quality work. Much more satisfying.

@HamiltonMechanical 3 года назад

okay I was not expecting the disappearing beard man...

@ElectricianU 3 года назад

hahaha, old recording that needed one more segment - it bugs the hell out of me too...but it is what it is

@nickg1307 3 года назад

@@ElectricianU I would have rerecorded it 😂 the break in continuity is distracting 🙃. That's just me, I however agree with this and just about every other point you make! Also the phrase it is what is, my journeyman taught me that when I would spend too much time trying to make something perfect that will never be. It is what it is 🤣

@andrewalexander9492 3 года назад

@@ElectricianU So you cut corners and used mismatched footage instead of putting in the extra effort to make it look good. ;)

@aaron74 3 года назад

@@ElectricianU No way you could have re-done the "......BUT....." that you did in the older footage. That had me laughing.

@TrailTrackers 3 года назад

@@ElectricianU : LOL... If you really want to fuck with peoples' minds, instead of saying, "It is what it is", just say, "It's what it's". I'm telling you, say that to somebody who ain't expecting it and their eyes cross, head cocks to side and you can just see the wheels madly grinding away while they work that shit out in their heads. LMAO...

@kevinsturges466 3 года назад

Not an electrician, but I’ve watched a lot of these videos done by professionals in all the trades. Helps me learn when I need a pro I know if their a “pro” or a hack. To many times before I’ve had “pro” work done on my house and had no idea if it was being done correctly. Turns out, roof and windows were not. Unfortunately around here it seems like just that mentality, “they can’t see it, don’t worry, skip it,” especially when the place you buy from is not the installer. Simple things do matter. Besides, I always looked at neatly stapling and supporting anything in the walls, especially electrical or water pipes is going to help a lot preventing a screw or nail from giving a person a big headache in the future.

@skylerchesnut1777 3 года назад

Doing it right and clean always matters no matter what trade or what task. Taking pride in your work is becoming a fucking lost art. Appreciate what you do man keep it up!

@242sp 3 года назад

You're right on this, every true electrician or electrical engineer is OCD about things like this. I was facilities maintenance for 20 years in a machine shop, the second I opened a service cabinet to check something electrical you could tell if an electrician or a hack was in there. I wish I would of went into electrical when I was younger, I understand it pretty well and have had college courses in HVAC but always liked electrical. I appreciate your channel a lot, always good information. ( for a whipper snapper ) .

@_Rikk_ 3 года назад

been a neat freak bout this for a few decades....even map it on paper.... nothing like a guy reaching out to 15 years later and thanking you for doing such a neat job...he was doing a renno and expanding the electrical.. not to mention when it comes to inspections the inspectors come in and are out in half the time because they do not have to try to figure things out....

@tailong4047 3 года назад

I just took a online electrician course I just want to tell you how much I appreciate your time and videos. I have learned slots Thanks bro. You’re a badass in the trade.will keep on learning from you don’t stop doing what you’re doing now. Loving it. Thanks bro

@realityquotient7699 3 года назад

Yes. Having spent over 20 years as a pro trucker I can tell you that professionalism in all areas tends to coincide. You see a messy truck going down the road there's a high likelihood that inspecting it will reveal mechanical violations. A neat truck is less likely to be in poor working order.

@lunam7249 8 месяцев назад

i ❤ the 18's looking like a christmas tree

@minefreak2000 3 года назад

Not an electrician (yet) but have run many many miles of cat 5e/6 Ethernet, Including 15 km in a single building, and I finished with every single one in neat line with each other. Got a call a couple years later from another tech working on the same building after a small fire, said I made his life almost too easy, and he had to stall a little to make the pay worth his time. I'm with you man, I wouldn't feel right leaving a mess.

@theysrone 3 года назад

I have been looking for this very instruction on cable securing without reading the code. Thanks for the video!!!

@eduardodedios8213 3 года назад

Big props to you man, wish there was more people with that integrity and work ethics.

@cliffmongene3374 Год назад

Good Job that has always been my philosophy as my Dad said do it right the first time you wont have do it again boils down to taking pride in your work and yourself

@davidjensen4654 3 года назад

As a superintendent who hires electricians, nothing makes me happier than seeing neat parallel lines of romex and a well made up panel. Yes it all gets covered but a neat job speaks volumes about the man pulling the wire and the product he provides to the homeowner

@martinblank4250 3 года назад

Absolutely. Quality mentality and workmanship MATTERS.

@byteblaster_ee 3 года назад

From the Network Engineer part of the house, THANK YOU. This always make our lives easier.

@kin9karn4gw 3 года назад

im with you. Take some pride, sometimes you cant always make it look awesome but where you can you should. I walked around a job with the home owner today after i finished the panel and he was pleased.

@DrD6452 3 года назад

On the first day of my grade 8 industrial arts class way back in the early 80's the first thing my teacher said to the class was "Never hand in a project and ask is this good enough?" If you're asking that question then that means you can do it better. That has stuck with me ever since and no matter what I do when I'm finished I ask myself "Is that the best I can do?" If the answer is no then I continue working on the task at hand until it is. I do low voltage installations and it drives me crazy when I have to sort out a rats nest of ethernet cables that someone just throws up in the ceiling or in a wall cavity. Any job worth doing is worth doing right or don't do it at all.

@SIE44TAR 3 года назад

My 8th grade IA teacher told us on the first day of class the highest grade he would ever give on a project was a 95, because he believed nothing was ever perfect. On a wood shadow box project he gave me a 95-1/2. That was 45 years ago and I still aspire to that level.

@kalebjohnson8506 3 года назад

If you don’t have the time to do it right the first time, why would you the second time?

@rcolina9253 3 года назад

Congratulations on your channel, my son started working with me 1 week ago, he had never worked electricity and he showed me one of your videos on how to be an electrical assistant and I have seen some other videos and in many things, I agree with you, Regarding this video, I always fight with the people who work with me and I say to them, I don't want to see a plate of spaghetti in the attic, inside the walls or under the house, we are electricians, we are not cooks, it is very satisfactory when an inspector says excellent work just seeing how the work is organized, when everything is in the order it is more difficult to make mistakes and it is easier to locate any fault, good work

@willschultz5452 3 года назад

I agree! My OCD kicks in 😂. And yes inspectors are definitely impressed! It takes me a little longer but it looks nice and professional.

@jordanharvey2163 3 года назад

In any trade , if you call yourself a " professional " you must conduct yourself in a professional manner. That includes your work and work standards. So I applaud your attention to detail. You are why so many people will put in the extra work to make it presentable. I've always looked at any job I do as a first impression and a sales pitch to better jobs in the future.

@joelbarton136 3 года назад

Thank you brother for that! I feel the same way. Wish everyone else did!!!

@tylerbesuyen6889 3 года назад

Thanks for making these videos! I'm a few months into my apprenticeship and you videos are really helping me. My journeyman is super ocd about clean work so it's a habit for me now

@pauldietrich6790 3 года назад

The fella that wired my breaker box....I really don't want it covered...it's literally a work of art! and so easy to tell if there is a problem/trace/fix...and add more if needed. ( never had a problem though...done right the first time! )

@Thomas63r2 3 года назад

I'm not officially an electrician, but craftsmen everywhere get what you are talking about. I'm a car guy, built a few cars - I love it when I'm at a show and someone comes by and slowly takes it all in, and then says: "wow, incredible attention to detail." I have rewired cars just to get rid of the who gives a shit bundle of snakes - it also makes any future work and diagnosing so much easier. One of the reasons I do my own plumbing and home electrical is precisely to get the beautiful layout. Maybe no one else will ever see it until I move to another house, but I enjoy looking at fine craftsmanship.

@smartchip 3 года назад

Let's say I have learned having a right attitude is key, I charge a fair price for a good job, I also remember well the box and conduit conductor calcs in class in North America, also back home in the UK select n erection methods in the on site handbook, really good advise, if you work at it, you become better over time, be a good electrician, discovered Mike halt when I was doing the regs in North America, helped me, Thank God,

@Aepek 3 года назад

Dustin, I was taught, that whatever gets covered; will be uncovered at some point.....so make it look good & functional😉 Like making things look good, if that’s running romex, or doing plumbing work; regardless if gets covered up, I make sure it looks good & works “well” together. Also, imo, spend few extra bucks for nail plates for your electrical & plumbing work (last thing you want is someone doing finishing work & sinking a nail/screw into the wires/pipes you just spend installing & then having to “repair” them). Happy Holidays (can’t believe thanksgiving & Xmas here already)✌🏼

@bobwalsh57 3 года назад

It matters - good video. Pride in one’s work flows through everything you do.

@lotuswings 3 года назад

Hey, brother! Thanks for uploading again, love the videos, I binged them before I started the trade and they've given me a headstart. You should make a tips and tricks video! Like how to make wires into a pretty joint, all the little things that green guys like me learn with time. Like a rapid fire video. Anyway, thanks again!

@TrepedatiousTrex 3 года назад

As a marine and boat electrician for a yacht company that builds 40 to 90ft motor yachts and competition fishing boats, we all take pride in making sure our wiring is top notch, I can run upwards of 40 seperate cables in a loom behind cabinets and alongside the hull of the boat in places no one may ever see till it sinks, but I know that the people working after me will know that they have no worries of things not working correctly or that there’s no worry the boat will have problems later down the line because we obviously took the time to both wire the boat correctly but I clearly know where things are going when my loom has no wires crossing over or any wild tangles. I wired my bathroom almost the same way abs once I get my hands on the rest of my house I’ll do the same because I CARE, abs it’s MY HOUSE, now at least I know if anything needs to be done I have no worries in finding anything

@slimthug131 3 года назад

Hey buddy first time coming across your videos I just want to say thank you for making videos that aren't boring and easy to understand I graduated from a 4-year trade school and it was the worst educational experience of my life

@yonatantaque4482 2 года назад

I enjoying all you videos!! Thanks a lot.

@jccbsl1 3 года назад

This discipline applies to low voltage systems as well. I encounter alarm and access control panels all the time that I refer to as rat's nests. Do they work? Most of the time, but at the very least it makes things a challenge to troubleshoot. Fortunately, I had a mentor who insisted I take the extra time to do a "neat and workmanlike" job. I've had more than one inspector comment on my installs and usually one quick glance and they don't see any need to check my entire job. Nice to hear somebody preaching this concept.

@mr.fredricklawngtawnghedav5094 Год назад

Excellent advice sparks

@blainelanders2361 9 месяцев назад

Dude. Thank you. As a simple cave-man home owner, I have added some of my own outlets and switches over the years. I try very hard to follow NEC scripture and I think if you honor that and realize that in this country, we have the oversite on how things are done and no excuse should be required to follow that and make it all as neat as possible. It is these things that increase the safety in our caves, where our families live and spend most of their time.

@joeolejar 3 года назад

My career was in telecom power. The standard always was that conductors or cables would be laced to the cable rack in neat, parallel rows. As I neared retirement installations went to raceways with cables laid haphazardly in a trough. The worst thing about that is that communication cables and power cables were intermixed which drove me nuts. We would get a "so what" from commercial electricians who left exposed conductors at power panel connections. Our contracts with them included terms that there would be no "shiners".

@jonesgang 3 года назад

That is why most skilled electricians are perfectionists. Those just learning the trade needs to learn those skills. When I first started my boss did not want to see the romex not following the wood. No diagonal runs. Yes you use up more romex but in the end, but it all looks amazing. We did a lot of residential homes for a military base and we had a blueprint for each style house of how the circuits were run. I still have those prints and if I eve have to go back I will know exactly where to look for a circuit, no guessing what wire was doing what. Yes it takes a little more time but quality of work is of utmost importance. Do it right, make it look good, and make your life a lot easier.

@peepeepoopoo1399 3 года назад

I’m an HVAC tech. I am grateful when you guys don’t just leave cables laying around.

@drewc3651 2 года назад

I completely agree with you, your mind can rest easy knowing you did a great job. I come behind some shitty work and curse the prior electrician up and down! Great vide, by the way. There are some jack legs out there that feel like you're talking directly to them, lol☺

@juantrejo10 3 года назад

That’s what I learn in this trade . take pride in everything u do and it’s crazy cause I heard it from u to .great job on the video buddy .sick videos

@yangly4702 3 года назад

As a cable technician that works near electrical (in basements mostly) I can appreciate a good electrical system install. I also take pride in how i do installations, and I always check the sticker on the breaker to see what electricians do the best work! Makes it easy to decide if I need work done who to use.

@BuddhaKat1 3 года назад

I'm not an electrician, but I have OCD whenever I do any electrical or plumbing work. I once installed a 17kw, whole house generator and the city inspector told me that he has never seen a contractor do such an excellent job. I did everything by myself, including the installation of the propane tank and underground gas lines. 7 years on and not one problem.

@ddelano7408 3 года назад

The insurance inspector, that came to inspect our new house, looked at the wiring and said to me "Your electrician was pretty anal"! I said "Thanks, that was me." Many years later the town electrical inspector came to inspect my generator installation said he was very impressed with the installation and all of the wiring including in the service panel. He had never seen such a neat job by any electrician. Each wire in the panel and outlet boxes has a number tag. I have an excel spreadsheet inside the main panel that lists every wire in the house so down the road someone else can come in and trace any wire. I am not an electrician but I did take the apprentice training course and apprenticed for awhile before being laid off back in the 70's. Since then I became a EE and worked in the defense industry. Keep up your great work!

@trocha419 3 года назад

I 100% agree. We just remodeled our warehouse office and it was just a mess of wires that had to be sorted and traced to make sure the right wires for the outlets and recessed lighting were moved or terminated.

@lemleykaleb 3 года назад

It’s weird how I’m seeing this video today after re-doing my shop. I was literally impressed how nice my breaker box looked today in the house from the past electrician. It was literally perfect lol I’m always ocd about everything even if I’m covering it up. Why not take the extra time to make things neat and enjoy what you’re doing it’ll always be worth it in the end

@MrRogsmart 6 месяцев назад

Old school. Take pride in your work. Thanks Justin.

@BigmoRivera Год назад

Keep Up The Good Work ⚡️My Dude!!😉👍🏽

@robertcookjr6100 3 года назад

Exactly, yes neatness counts in all trades. It shows you are a true professional

@TampaMaximumMike 3 года назад

Romex is the brand name of a non-metallic (NM) sheathed electrical cable made by Southwire Company rather than just a cable type. Other companies make the same type of sheathed wiring but cannot call it Romex. Making it look neat reinforces that idea that the customer is paying a professional.

@markryan3995 3 года назад

Totally agree with you. It doesn’t matter if anyone will see it or not! Attention to detail on whatever you’re doing!

@HBSuccess 3 года назад

When I was 20 (40 yrs ago) an “old-.timer” who mentored me told me “ if it looks good, it’s probably going to work good” Took me a long time to realize why that advice is always true. Greenhorns and hacks don’t know how to make anything look good. That part takes a master workman.

@coreyfliss6303 3 года назад

I was always taught a maximum of 2 romex wires (14 or 12 awg) stapled on the flat no closer then 1.25 inches from the stud/joist edge with insulated staples. The insulated staple is VERY important, not to meet code but to help prevent issues with modern arc-fault breakers!

@Richard-lionhearted 3 года назад

Here in Canada you can staple the first Romeo and tie wrap wires on top , and I label each wire as to where it goes …. Nice and neat and pretty to look at , also here usually panel are in basement so not dry walled on top of them , good work isn’t a extra it’s not being a chop electrician

@jon4715 3 года назад

You're 100% right on about this

@randythompson5061 2 года назад

Thank you for this video. It is exactly the way I feel about it. And I have taken crap for it in the past. But I don't care. I do it to the best of my ability for all the reasons you stated. It's good to know that I am not alone.

@jonanderson5142 3 года назад

I seen someone say if it's not done nice he probably bought his license to start with that how I started never been good at testing in my youth 😂 but 30 years later I'm usually get my approval over the phone they the inspectors know my work passes every time... very proud of that...👍🇺🇲

@b.powell3480 3 года назад

All electrical/electronic work should be done in a workmanship like manner! In other words, do the layout/dressing of wires in a professional manner! Great video!

@Redeemyrrh 3 года назад

Dude you’re legit, thank you for these vids, I hope God blesses your hands and the work you do - future electrician

@willschultz5452 3 года назад

I like to use the staples with the little blue plastic insulators on the staple. Just a little extra security.

@matttheis3651 3 года назад

Totally agree with everything said. As a auto tech for many years, I hate when I come across something that you can tell the previous guy didn't care about. If I can tell someone was in there, then they didn't take enough care.

@stephenalexander6721 2 месяца назад

I used to teach apprentices. Something I repatedly told them was 'neatness counts even if you're working in a trench.'

@benitocamela5632 3 года назад

Your channel is fuckn great man lol on halloween was my 2 year mark doing residential thanks for your help

@BxR_Synerggy 3 года назад

Noti gang here! Keep up the great work my dude

@4220greengates 3 года назад

When I was installing small business PBX system..as a telephone employee in the early and mid 60’s.. I was trained to do it very neatly..45 degree corners..clamps equally spaced and to sign your name or initials to the board on which it was mounted. Nothing worse than to have to shoot a case of trouble when the wiring is a rats nest. I always took great pride in my work..do it right and you will not have to do it over. Of course, it’s not the 60’s or even the 70’s any longer..so to see someone with dedication and pride in their work, is rare..unless they are craftspeople and laborers from another company.

@sanozatsho 3 года назад

the neat work would make future remodel easier I imagine.

@sirnatanielson 3 года назад

I was fortunate when I started my apprenticeship and was trained by a few guys who were hardcore about quality of work. So I learned early how to make my cables neat and tidy. There was a point where I found that if I just tried to "slap it in," i actually went slower than if I just did quality work. Basically, i had to try to do crap work. That was a revelatory sign for me early on.

@PhilosopherKing73 3 месяца назад

Started my career as a utility worker for Pacific Gas and Electric. We did everything that lineman did but in underground vaults in downtown San Francisco….including lots of lead cable splicing. Every splicer I worked with did his best….because someday, years later another guy is going to go int that vault and you want them to say “Damn, whoever did this was GOOD”…