Should the Leafs be entertaining a Marner extension? | Jay on SC 

Couldn’t agree more with Hayes. Been saying it for the last 3-4 yrs. It would be insanity to return with this same group, coaching staff, and Shanahan at the helm. Time for change.

so fitting that talking about the leafs you have golf clubs in the background

The so-called "Shanaplan" crashed and burned/died a long time ago. At this point, if Shanahan is not going to be replaced or moved to another role in MLSE, then that would speak volumes as to how MLSE really feels about winning a Stanley Cup in Toronto. Signing Marner to an extension would also be a psychotic move. The Leafs clearly have a dysfunctional ownership model, with far too many people given a say in the direction of that hockey franchise. Pelley needs to be given the green light to clean house, and also give the green light to Treliving to make bold managerial decisions. Shanahan, Keefe, the entire coaching staff, and several roster players all need to be dumped during the off-season, otherwise the Leafs will simply stage an instant replay of this season's first round playoff exit to the Bruins in less than 365 days from now.

The title of this vid is crazy after that series 😂

How come nobody bust out laughing or at least a snicker when Mitch said people view them as gods?

MARNER NEEDS TO BE TRADED NOW!!!

This issue arises from the fact that there are two dominant owners, Bell Media and Rogers Communications, alongside a minority owner, Larry Tanenbaum. The Leafs lack a decisive leader at the helm who is willing to shake things up. If it were any other team, heads would roll without hesitation.

I feel gutted for Morgan. He was the only honest one in the group, which is disappointing. John Tavares will go down as the worse captain in franchise history. He seemed in denial and clearly not a leader you can win with by any means. To regress that much at 33 is insane, but to utilize buzz words throughout his tenure makes it so much worse. They gave him captaincy as a ploy to sign here, while drafting a generational talent. Giving a nobody, literally a nobody in Dubas who hasn’t accomplished anything at the highest level this covenant talent pool makes me sick. He hired his friend to coach, gave everything and anything to 16 given his birth certificate, signed and gave picks away for rentals who has no interest in signing or couldn’t be sign due to cap hell he and Shanny created was like watching a bad movie. Keefe had no business being a coach this long. Even worse, the audacity of Shanahan to continue on with his failed plan and extending him was beyond the scope of insanity. Somebody from the MLSE board of directors, stop the madness. I know you guys have enough money to careless about this fuckery, but you own the team. Do something about it. Us consumers are dying here watching this team fail yr after yr. And for the love of god - despite thinking his a deity, move the FUCK ON from Mitch Marner. That alone, with salvage some hope from this fan base. Nylander and Matthews, god willing don’t follow the same path of decline as JT, only have 4 yrs left of prime hockey, hopefully more (JT traumatized me) do it right this time. Learn from past mistake and move on from false promises from this so called president of hockey Ops and I would gladly upgrade my cable and phone plan. Enough with the Gong show. Focus on winning a Stanley Cup. The Leafs are the most recognizable brand in hockey, disgrace by greed and bad decisions. 57 yrs. Enough is enough.

i remember when dubas first did this there were GM's who wanted to remain anonymous but they all said the same thing you cannot win the cup and pay that amount of the cap to a few forwards

At this point the Leafs have to cut bait even if it means not getting full value. It's clear for both the player and the team that running it back should be a fireable offence. Whether it's a deal for a big strong underperforming D-man on a big deal, for a 2nd pair D-man and prospects+picks, or just for another forward in need of a change of scenery. Its clear that this team just doesnt work as constructed.

I've tuned out to anything the players have to say. They don't got it, full stop.

The top brass are gonna run it back for one more season of the Gods 🤣🤣🤣

So many people pouncing on him by the way he played exactly get him out of here

Signing Marner to an extension isn't as crazy as it seems, as long as the hockey world sees that value in him, and he has a ton of value. I would probably let the next coach make that decision. Maybe he can fix the post-season issues he's had. If I was the next coach, I wouldn't mind having a bit of say in that decision.

Change whatever you want. The fabric of the team is the issue. They have zero killer instinct and accept losing as an option. Next year will end the same whoever they have.

Can we hire Doug Gilmour and Wendel Clarke for any of the management or coaching roles?

Marner doesn’t want to leave his hometown Toronto and will resist a trade. Either the Leafs resigns him to Nylander money and term or they play hardball with him saying “we’re sitting you in the press box unless you agree to be traded.”

They should have given Rielly the C from the get-go, but after seeing him be the only one to not just ramble cliches I think it's even more clear now than it was then.

Leafs fans will continue to pack Scotiabank Centre to the rafters as long as Matthews and Nylander are on this team even if they stink in future years.

100% agree with Hayes. Time to move on from the core 4 players.

I agree you need to make changes but I disagree about his opinion about Marner being the scapegoat. All the stars on this team sucks in the playoffs but 1 or 2 need to go.

Hayes is right. Brendan Shanahan needs to doing something. Give the leaf nation a step by step system and lets see if it works cause all this time he has been here, he shouldve gotten some Stanley Cups by now

Goaltender could have played that final puck off the corner boards with his stick before the OT goal ended the season! Lack of reflexes! Would have been a pivotal intervention!

There is no hope for this team as long as Marner and Keefe are here

If Marner is "God" then he's responsible for a sharp uptick in atheism. Keefe looks like Barney Rubble

It's gone from playing for a cup to just winning a round (which they rarely do). To not drastically change the current model would be the worst sports business decision ever.

The media is absolutely to blame/thank for a lot of people staying out of Toronto. Not all there is but incredible how they have no introspection at all. Hope you like Scranton Sheldon!

Marner and Tavares will refuse to waive their NMC, 1 more year of the core 4, after that Marner and Tavares can test Free agency market.

Like last season's post-elimination comments, Rielly is the only one being real (or even close to real).

It’s so sad man all the fans want is for this team to Win it’s so sad man! We are tired of this..

Reilly ya got burnt bro!

What if.... The Leafs as an organization doesn't prioritize winning the cup, but prioritizes profits instead... And its just us clueless fans who want whatever it takes to win.

Cowan will replace Mitch soon

Absolutely! He’s a god!

Someone HAS to go. Marner, Shanahan. Just figure it out honestly

Want to win the cup? I think a coach like Viktor Tikhinov and his system might be a good start.

WHY would they 😅😅😅😅

Shouldn't even be a question, sign him THE F OUTTA TORONTO

Im so happy the leafs are in this dumpster fire 😂 Im sure steve dangle is losing his fucking mind and that alone makes me so happy lol

Dubas will hire Keefe this summer

Well said haysey b

Look, Marner did not have a great playoffs this year, but he’s been a consistent performer in many of the years prior. I’d much much rather see Keefe gone than Marner. Anyone could’ve coached this extremely talented roster to a playoff spot over these past few years. It requires a much better coach to actually get further than that though.

Players showing their true colours including the coach. They will never win because they dont have a winning attitude and takes zero responsibilities.

So did Matthews get concussion in games 2 and 4 ...?

Its annoying to hear Tavares and Rielly talk as if they just lost the Stanley Cup Final. Its Round 1. You guys are nowhere even close.

Is the golf bag behind Hayes a metaphor for the Leafs?

Does Marner really need to go? maybe Will Toronto be closer to winning the cup without Marner? probably not Regardless what changes may be in the offing, Toronto likely will remain a very good tier 2 team in the EC for the foreseeable future.

Ideally, they should just let Marner play out that last year (along with Tavares) and then trade them both away in December before the roster freeze.

Well if he's a god he doesn't need money.

if any of them truly loved the team or the city they would stop holding the team for ransom and accept a deal that would allow the team more flexibility to sign other players to put them in a better position to win

It's a ways away according to Reilly.

Paul Marner sez: "I'll let MLSE know who's going to get traded where. We are Gods"

If ur gonna trade him, then yes sign then trade but nothing else

I think what ppl don't understand is its their decision at the end of the day not there's or anyone else's lol

Say no to Marner the "God" lol.

Ask yourself Marner or Domi and Bertuzi. Easy call Marner can drop it on anyone's stick miles ahead of both Domi and Bertuzi.

Matthews not admitting what his injury was seems very suspicious. Is he afraid that he will look bad by admitting his injury? Maybe it wasn't that serious and he could have played through it. Maybe that is why he doesn't want to admit his injury.

Florida and Boston handled the Leafs too easily in the regular season and in the playoffs. The writing was on the wall for a first round exit. No one has all the answers. But we do know that 50M for the core won’t work in a cap era

GODS?! Really Marner? Bit full of yourself there especially after that piss poor performance for playoffs. not even a leafs fan but he's overrated AF. 3 points in playoffs? he's maybe a $6M player at most.

ask darren dreger if paul marner is okay with it.

The problem Brad Treliving faces is a bit tricky. Mitch Marner has a full NMC while the ideal solution would be to trade him in the off season for team needs. If no contract deal is reached, he could walk into the sunset for nothing as a UFA at the end of next season. Marner holds all of the cards unless it is made clear that he is not in the team's future plans. Losing him for nothing to free agency is an undesirable outcome but not near as undesirable as continuing with a top heavy, playoff inept cap structure. Treliving needs to play hardball here. If Marner does not waive his NMC to facilitate a trade, the only choice Treliving has is to let Marner play his final contract year without an extension.

Yes 8 years at 14 million get it done Leafs. Guaranteed cup win for sure

Fire Shanny and coaching staff. If you cant trade marner, let Tavares and him walk next year and use the cap space to round out roster

Can some one please explain to me why mitch isn't worth the money he got?? The guy has played amazingly even in the playoffs! Just look at his career playoff stats he's got the most points out of any active leaf, has more hits and blocked shots then nylander, best +/- out of the core 4, has the same amount of penalty minutes as nylander, plays in every situation because he has good hockey sense and defensive tendencies. I say he's definitely worth the money and he's the second best player on the leafs besides matthews.

Shanahan needs to go. He started, built & endorsed this mess

😂 Absolutely extend Mitch God like Marner 👍

Insane entertaining a contract extension. Trade him or let him walk.

God Marner.. Good Grief a bit of a narcissist. If all the Leafs players look at themselves as God's, Leafs are in trouble.

Morgan says that they are close but seems so far away... my gosh. I love the Leafs but the players are now admitting that they are a long way away from winning a cup...

No. No they should not.

If he likes the organization so much he should re-sign 3 years 3.5 million AAV 😄

HOW MANY GOOD DEFENCEMEN GET WE GET FOR MARNER?

Look it wont matter how many changes are made idk what it is with this team but ive lost faith we will be a cup contending team anytime soon how many different cores have we had since 1967 ? None of them can do it , wont make us any better to lose one of our best players for nothing so if you cant get a dmen or a goalie for marner it would be dumb for the leafs to move on from him

No. Get a legit goalie and a d-man who's solid in his own end and can add some offense to the mix.

I like the guy, he plays well enough but not for that amount of money, I would resign for less money but not the same amount and not more. I would resign him for 5 to 6 million, cut his pay in half maybe more, if he wants to resign to that amount great if not that's fine too.

"LIKE A GOD"??? He thought it through and still said it!!! He almost believed what he was thinking of saying and said it so convincingly? Haaa his face showed it's not believing his BS...Where's your head at man!? By the way where was Reilly this plaoff round? Good injury prone goalies can't get you far in the plaoffs either. Coach outcoached for consecutive years x5. No doubt the leafs has come a long way however to progress from this level change is mandatory. Bertuzzi out...Marner out...for BLOCKBUSTER TRADE! Older defense players out...goalies situation is a ginormous black whole...Robertson is a power play sniper that should be played as such. Set him up for one timers for God's sake. Nobody wants to shoot on the powerplay? Can't score if you don't shoot!!! Ovechkin only had one move...shoot on net and look where that got him. 2 power play units with 2 shooters...Matthews 1st line with a playmaker to set him up. 2nd power play unit Robertson with playmaker to set him up for the shot. All we have seen is over playing the puck, over handling the passing, turnovers and NO SHOTS ON NET!!! OVER & OVER AGAIN & AGAIN & yet Keefe continued to play overplay the same 1st powerplay unit all year round. REMARKABLE how nothing changed but expectations to do better. CHANGE or DIE and they CHOKED & DIED AGAIN! Surely reality must sink into the stubborn minded in the Leafs organization this time around.

Kinda harsh crowd in here. BUT: 2017 glad to be there vs Washington. 2018 Kadri suspended against Bruins. 2019 Kadri suspended again Bruins. 2020 didn't qualify vs blue jackets with Muzzin hurt. 2021 Hyman returning from injury & Tavares rocked by Habs Perry. 2022 G7 lost to TB with no scoring. 2023 R1 win against a bad TB goalie showing. 2024 G7 OT loss to Bruins on weak defensive play by Marner, Rielly, Samsonov? Hot goalies every year except last year, hmmm.

Players comments are like the village idiot is the PR person.

Once again Mcdavid and Draisaitl are killing it. Its so unfair.

They should focus on getting a better goaltender

I"d rather chase Steve Stamkos, who if i Understand, if a free agent.

Let him walk.Not worth the money, he got no heart, get someone who wants to win..

No

no

Decisive action? The team is owned by Bell and Rogers. In what other universe would this happen? Decisive action should have been taken after the Montreal debacle, but no three more chances and counting. This series wasn't lost on Saturday. It was lost last week and we're still all waiting for the "next moves!" What a joke. It's definitely not about winning or even competing, for goodness sake.

On a related note - McDonald's has decided that profits are no longer their main priority - and they have decided to reward their loyal customers- especially the ones with no power to stop themselves from eating McDonald's - by simply doing whatever these customers tell them to do - even though the franchise has never been more profitable, because those obese every-day customers DEMANDED it..they'll get NONE of their demands ,Hayes, until they stop buying the product.

The leafs can't win with Marner on the Team. He shits the bed when it counts. If you want to win games that don't matter he can get some points.

Sign God Mitch to a 2 year without a no trade clause and then trade him.

Looked upon as gods😳

Marner needs to go!!!!

Send this so called "God" out of town

I always find it funny that whenever a player calls out the media coverage of this team, the media feels like how dare they lol. You can’t ignore the ridiculous amount of coverage of this team, I’d love to see the media own their part in adding to the pressure on players. They are human man, getting trashed in every article for days, weeks, months has an affect.

Not worth the cost.

Thanks but no thanks.

12 goals in 7 games 1/25 on the PP they don’t have enough star forwards 😂😂😂 No way he’s removing his NMC, you will lose him for nothing next year which is hilarious. Rebuild coming soon

Hell yeah they should be entertaining it. They should be kissing marner's ass right now. Talking that they want to sign in long-term. Everything under the sun to make him think they want him. Signs a new deal without no trade clause. Then trade him.

Mitch is a narcissist

There was only two, real major issues that the Leafs encountered.. 1. Our Lack of Team defense was an issue in the first few games vs Bruins.. (that is a coaching issue) he has not been able to get this team to play proper defense the entire time he has been here.. That difference, could have gotten us one or two more games before our back was to the wall.. This is a FACT...... 2, Our Powerplay.. Not adjusting our powerplay to an entirely new zone entry and attack is again ( COACHING )... This team should have raced to the blue line with speed and chased a dump in,,,, then force point shots while crashing the net... They failed to adjust and we missed out on maybe, 15 more goals which would have ended this series... In Every other area, the Leafs matched or exceeded Bruins play... How do we know this --(((we went to game Seven OT)))... DEFENSE & A PP ADJUSTMENT was the difference.... OVERTIME IN GAME SEVEN.... Only because we played two very bad defensive games!! Thats what killed us and that is COACHING... No One player could change that... Period This Team Is Close.. THis is NOT AN EASY DIVISON.. The Finals have come from our division every season for how Long????? TEAM DEFENSE would have been the difference the entire time but weve never seen it until the last 3 games this series!!! FINALLY THE LEAFS PLAYED SOLID TEAM DEFENSE.... WE SEEN IT MATTERS but then again (coaching failed to adjust the PP).. that is your difference Folks.

No way ... forget it. Its time to send the "Gods" packing.

4x7 mil, to retain him then Trade asap