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Should the Maple Leafs entertain signing Mitch Marner to a long-term extension? How unsatisfied should Leaf fans feel after hearing the players address the media following another early exit from the playoffs? Bryan Hayes joins SC with Jay Onrait to answers these questions and more!

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@notesandfragments
@notesandfragments Месяц назад
Couldn’t agree more with Hayes. Been saying it for the last 3-4 yrs. It would be insanity to return with this same group, coaching staff, and Shanahan at the helm. Time for change.
@mattrix4200
@mattrix4200 Месяц назад
It's been insanity that we've kept this group coming back with the exact same 3 C's (core, coach & culture) for the past 6-7yrs! Are Leaf shareholders going to want any differences knowing full well that profits are skyrocketing with the individual success of Marner & Matthews? The truth is until we ALL STOP feeding this monster we can only point the finger at ourselves...
@people3865
@people3865 Месяц назад
​@@mattrix4200What individual success from Mitch? Sub 100 points?
@kurrentscom
@kurrentscom Месяц назад
@@people3865 Yes, he gets close to 100 points per season. That puts him in the top 10 to 15 NHL point scorers yearly. I'd call that success.
@danielmaloney946
@danielmaloney946 Месяц назад
It was insanity to hire Dubas, insanity to overpay all those forwards and build your teamaround offense like its a rec ball hockey league.....insanity to keep this together ,7,8,9 years...my question to leaf fans is ..WHY DIDN"T YOU SAY THIS FIVE YEARS AGO??? Its a business. If you keep buying it, they will keep selling it to you.
@mattrix4200
@mattrix4200 Месяц назад
@@danielmaloney946 that's what I *HAVE* been saying (sadly in the minority) for well over 5yrs now! The sad truth is the Toronto media and fans who only watch game updates (but not the games and especially not the playoffs) themselves actually believe that Matthews, Marner, Nylander & Tavares are ''worth'' these top salaried contracts despite their glaring weaknesses in the playoffs and in tight checking situations.
@bluetocop
@bluetocop Месяц назад
so fitting that talking about the leafs you have golf clubs in the background
@tonyk501
@tonyk501 Месяц назад
The so-called "Shanaplan" crashed and burned/died a long time ago. At this point, if Shanahan is not going to be replaced or moved to another role in MLSE, then that would speak volumes as to how MLSE really feels about winning a Stanley Cup in Toronto. Signing Marner to an extension would also be a psychotic move. The Leafs clearly have a dysfunctional ownership model, with far too many people given a say in the direction of that hockey franchise. Pelley needs to be given the green light to clean house, and also give the green light to Treliving to make bold managerial decisions. Shanahan, Keefe, the entire coaching staff, and several roster players all need to be dumped during the off-season, otherwise the Leafs will simply stage an instant replay of this season's first round playoff exit to the Bruins in less than 365 days from now.
@sempcast
@sempcast Месяц назад
My gut says Shanny falls on his sword 🗡️ on Friday, sorry guys it didn’t work out… he steps down/retires. He’s a HOF player, no big deal ppl still love him.
@WW3_Soon
@WW3_Soon Месяц назад
Because both Mitch and Tavares have one year left on their contract, they will run it back one more season!
@sniperovski
@sniperovski Месяц назад
The title of this vid is crazy after that series 😂
@MisterMister5893
@MisterMister5893 Месяц назад
How come nobody bust out laughing or at least a snicker when Mitch said people view them as gods?
@mattrix4200
@mattrix4200 Месяц назад
It's disgustingly true... they sell out every game and people go nuts when they break individual records. Even now, just go to any comment section of any discussion on the Leafs and see for yourself how many ''fans'' think they know what they're talking about when they say Marner, Matthews, Nylander & Tavares are GREAT players.
@Firearcher4
@Firearcher4 Месяц назад
What he meant is that no matter who plays on the Leafs, the fans love their team so much and treat the players as gods. Their expectations are high.
@MonstrousRingleader
@MonstrousRingleader Месяц назад
@@Firearcher4he also meant that leafs fans will still pay through the nose no matter what happens, does not matter what on ice product is put on ice. Ownership is sitting on the biggest cash cows in North America
@mattm6580
@mattm6580 Месяц назад
Hockey players are treated like gods in Canada be it Toronto, Montreal, or anywhere. They have statues of players at arenas. Hockey is life here. Enough with the fake outrage ok
@_AdaWRempe
@_AdaWRempe Месяц назад
i cringed so hard
@sabbya5655
@sabbya5655 Месяц назад
MARNER NEEDS TO BE TRADED NOW!!!
@babayaga4355
@babayaga4355 Месяц назад
Yesterday! They should have made a bunch of these moves after the Montreal collapse…..way too late, but better late than never.
@truenorth1355
@truenorth1355 Месяц назад
You can’t trade a god!
@leaf16nut
@leaf16nut Месяц назад
@@truenorth1355Because they’re invisible?
@truenorth1355
@truenorth1355 Месяц назад
@@leaf16nut awe! Are you still feeling bad? Just watch the oilers tonight! You can watch mcdavid light it up! We are so lucky to have him, I’m betting you wish you did.
@Droz75
@Droz75 Месяц назад
This issue arises from the fact that there are two dominant owners, Bell Media and Rogers Communications, alongside a minority owner, Larry Tanenbaum. The Leafs lack a decisive leader at the helm who is willing to shake things up. If it were any other team, heads would roll without hesitation.
@mattrix4200
@mattrix4200 Месяц назад
No. The MAIN issue arises from a city ''fan-base'' that gives TML enterprises record profits and then whines non-stop about their team not going anywhere in the playoffs. Do you think the shareholders care? Do you think Tanenmaum or Bell CARE how they make their money? No. You can't wait to get your hands on the inflated season tickets, to pay for the stupidly overpriced food & merchandise, so you can join the rest of the sold out audience in cheering individual trophy winners like Matthews & Marner... If you were making money off the obvious stupidity of the ''fans'' you wouldn't change a thing either. You'd put your best media spin on it, you'd hype it up, you'd make everyone think you're doing a great job to provide a winning team.
@sonic1957
@sonic1957 Месяц назад
Like a Harold Ballard Jr.?
@jason893
@jason893 Месяц назад
@@sonic1957 As bad as this management situation is I don't think anything could ever compare to how bad and insane the Ballard years were.
@agarcia9502
@agarcia9502 Месяц назад
I feel gutted for Morgan. He was the only honest one in the group, which is disappointing. John Tavares will go down as the worse captain in franchise history. He seemed in denial and clearly not a leader you can win with by any means. To regress that much at 33 is insane, but to utilize buzz words throughout his tenure makes it so much worse. They gave him captaincy as a ploy to sign here, while drafting a generational talent. Giving a nobody, literally a nobody in Dubas who hasn’t accomplished anything at the highest level this covenant talent pool makes me sick. He hired his friend to coach, gave everything and anything to 16 given his birth certificate, signed and gave picks away for rentals who has no interest in signing or couldn’t be sign due to cap hell he and Shanny created was like watching a bad movie. Keefe had no business being a coach this long. Even worse, the audacity of Shanahan to continue on with his failed plan and extending him was beyond the scope of insanity. Somebody from the MLSE board of directors, stop the madness. I know you guys have enough money to careless about this fuckery, but you own the team. Do something about it. Us consumers are dying here watching this team fail yr after yr. And for the love of god - despite thinking his a deity, move the FUCK ON from Mitch Marner. That alone, with salvage some hope from this fan base. Nylander and Matthews, god willing don’t follow the same path of decline as JT, only have 4 yrs left of prime hockey, hopefully more (JT traumatized me) do it right this time. Learn from past mistake and move on from false promises from this so called president of hockey Ops and I would gladly upgrade my cable and phone plan. Enough with the Gong show. Focus on winning a Stanley Cup. The Leafs are the most recognizable brand in hockey, disgrace by greed and bad decisions. 57 yrs. Enough is enough.
@Cfp-sx2vs
@Cfp-sx2vs Месяц назад
I'd say you don't have to worry about Nylander and Matthews falling off any time soon, Matthews has more talent than JT ever did so even out of his prime he can still be a 40+ goal scorer with a great 2 way game and Willy has only gotten better with age and the game he plays lends itself to longevity. I'd feel bad for Morgan if this dude actually showed up in the series though, outplayed by McCabe he looked nothing like last year Reilly
@GFY_FS
@GFY_FS Месяц назад
Phaneuf holds the spot of worst captain ever, Johnny isn’t taking that spot from him lol
@steve11263
@steve11263 Месяц назад
Leafs suck
@Cedisdead
@Cedisdead Месяц назад
I feel bad for leaf fans for how bad Morgan played, him and Marner is just trash
@armandolarade7861
@armandolarade7861 Месяц назад
As far as Keefe is concerned, the Montréal series should have been his death knell, he was outcoached by a rookie...we lost to our forever rivals and now, we can't even make fun of them because they can always come back with the fact that they came back from 3-1...
@fightgame321
@fightgame321 Месяц назад
i remember when dubas first did this there were GM's who wanted to remain anonymous but they all said the same thing you cannot win the cup and pay that amount of the cap to a few forwards
@WW3_Soon
@WW3_Soon Месяц назад
Including Brian Burke!
@Skynertia
@Skynertia Месяц назад
At this point the Leafs have to cut bait even if it means not getting full value. It's clear for both the player and the team that running it back should be a fireable offence. Whether it's a deal for a big strong underperforming D-man on a big deal, for a 2nd pair D-man and prospects+picks, or just for another forward in need of a change of scenery. Its clear that this team just doesnt work as constructed.
@WW3_Soon
@WW3_Soon Месяц назад
Yes, don’t resign Mitch but let him play out his final year of the contract. If his play slackens off, demote him to the fourth line or make him watch from the press box. If any other teams are interested in a rental, inform Mitch and he might remove his no movement clause and if he doesn’t, just relegate him to the press box so the fans can boo him.
@VangeliRock
@VangeliRock Месяц назад
I've tuned out to anything the players have to say. They don't got it, full stop.
@steverobinson8771
@steverobinson8771 Месяц назад
The top brass are gonna run it back for one more season of the Gods 🤣🤣🤣
@gdavho8778
@gdavho8778 Месяц назад
I can see them having secret ceremonies in their long Leaf robes.
@morgangentle1515
@morgangentle1515 Месяц назад
So many people pouncing on him by the way he played exactly get him out of here
@davidb.4623
@davidb.4623 Месяц назад
Signing Marner to an extension isn't as crazy as it seems, as long as the hockey world sees that value in him, and he has a ton of value. I would probably let the next coach make that decision. Maybe he can fix the post-season issues he's had. If I was the next coach, I wouldn't mind having a bit of say in that decision.
@dangraesser5341
@dangraesser5341 Месяц назад
Change whatever you want. The fabric of the team is the issue. They have zero killer instinct and accept losing as an option. Next year will end the same whoever they have.
@troublishone
@troublishone Месяц назад
This doesn't make sense at all.
@markfiori246
@markfiori246 Месяц назад
Makes perfect sense. They are celebrities. They wouldn’t sacrifice their face to stop a puck or break a leg or anything. They’d rather lose than win by any means
@troublishone
@troublishone Месяц назад
@@markfiori246 No hes saying its "the fabric of the team" and no matter who you have they will always lose. Which means trading the super stars doesn't matter, you still will lose because... They are Toronto? I don't know what fabric even refers to here. It's Literally just doomer drivel, and means absolutely nothing.
@gorillaglue99
@gorillaglue99 Месяц назад
@@troublishone you're right lol. it literally makes no sense. switching players will obviously change the type of players you have. he's basically implying that if toronto and colorado swapped teams, that Mackinnon would magically accept losing as an option. clearly markfiori is just as delusional.
@shredder5214
@shredder5214 Месяц назад
@@troublishonesome people are slow in the head
@WLUs1
@WLUs1 Месяц назад
Can we hire Doug Gilmour and Wendel Clarke for any of the management or coaching roles?
@Landis_Grant
@Landis_Grant 26 дней назад
Marner doesn’t want to leave his hometown Toronto and will resist a trade. Either the Leafs resigns him to Nylander money and term or they play hardball with him saying “we’re sitting you in the press box unless you agree to be traded.”
@IPv6Freely
@IPv6Freely Месяц назад
They should have given Rielly the C from the get-go, but after seeing him be the only one to not just ramble cliches I think it's even more clear now than it was then.
@WW3_Soon
@WW3_Soon Месяц назад
Leafs fans will continue to pack Scotiabank Centre to the rafters as long as Matthews and Nylander are on this team even if they stink in future years.
@bodechek
@bodechek Месяц назад
100% agree with Hayes. Time to move on from the core 4 players.
@mikeleblanc8323
@mikeleblanc8323 Месяц назад
I agree you need to make changes but I disagree about his opinion about Marner being the scapegoat. All the stars on this team sucks in the playoffs but 1 or 2 need to go.
@kialljacobs8331
@kialljacobs8331 Месяц назад
Hayes is right. Brendan Shanahan needs to doing something. Give the leaf nation a step by step system and lets see if it works cause all this time he has been here, he shouldve gotten some Stanley Cups by now
@user-nb9od6dg4v
@user-nb9od6dg4v Месяц назад
Goaltender could have played that final puck off the corner boards with his stick before the OT goal ended the season! Lack of reflexes! Would have been a pivotal intervention!
@tmcleung
@tmcleung Месяц назад
There is no hope for this team as long as Marner and Keefe are here
@DanTesta58
@DanTesta58 Месяц назад
If Marner is "God" then he's responsible for a sharp uptick in atheism. Keefe looks like Barney Rubble
@almVancouver
@almVancouver Месяц назад
It's gone from playing for a cup to just winning a round (which they rarely do). To not drastically change the current model would be the worst sports business decision ever.
@ethanmackler1160
@ethanmackler1160 Месяц назад
The media is absolutely to blame/thank for a lot of people staying out of Toronto. Not all there is but incredible how they have no introspection at all. Hope you like Scranton Sheldon!
@thefozzybear
@thefozzybear Месяц назад
Marner and Tavares will refuse to waive their NMC, 1 more year of the core 4, after that Marner and Tavares can test Free agency market.
@billboggs6641
@billboggs6641 Месяц назад
I saw him coasting 10 feet behind Pastrnak just before the overtime goal. Was that the " no movement " everyone is talking about ?
@angrydalailama6089
@angrydalailama6089 Месяц назад
​@@billboggs6641ha! No - but it fits.
@davedavid427
@davedavid427 Месяц назад
Like last season's post-elimination comments, Rielly is the only one being real (or even close to real).
@Kyle-km4vr
@Kyle-km4vr Месяц назад
It’s so sad man all the fans want is for this team to Win it’s so sad man! We are tired of this..
@sniperovski
@sniperovski Месяц назад
Reilly ya got burnt bro!
@andrewaugustine1494
@andrewaugustine1494 Месяц назад
What if.... The Leafs as an organization doesn't prioritize winning the cup, but prioritizes profits instead... And its just us clueless fans who want whatever it takes to win.
@hockeyfan7100
@hockeyfan7100 Месяц назад
You just said it. The bottom line is profit - NOTHING else.
@troublishone
@troublishone Месяц назад
Deep runs and cup wins = more profits.
@crushdavis7048
@crushdavis7048 Месяц назад
If anything, MLSE needs the leafs to go deep to get them more money. The Raptors suck, the blue Jays for Rogers are starting to go south, and TFC has always lost money. A deep leafs playoff run helps offset all of that.
@burmesepython393
@burmesepython393 Месяц назад
Absolutely! He’s a god!
@morgangentle1515
@morgangentle1515 Месяц назад
Cowan will replace Mitch soon
@andrewaugustine1494
@andrewaugustine1494 Месяц назад
Domi already has pretty much
@oliverquach9614
@oliverquach9614 Месяц назад
Cowan is shorter and lighter than Marner.
@mattrix4200
@mattrix4200 Месяц назад
So you feel Cowan is going to sell you as much merchandise as Marner do you?
@Blake-jz5bh
@Blake-jz5bh Месяц назад
​@@andrewaugustine1494 no he hasnt
@stuffnsuch631
@stuffnsuch631 Месяц назад
Domis more overall impactful than marner. ​@@Blake-jz5bh
@MeatZer0
@MeatZer0 Месяц назад
Someone HAS to go. Marner, Shanahan. Just figure it out honestly
@jho9419
@jho9419 Месяц назад
Want to win the cup? I think a coach like Viktor Tikhinov and his system might be a good start.
@MidwestSportsMLBNBANHLNFL
@MidwestSportsMLBNBANHLNFL Месяц назад
WHY would they 😅😅😅😅
@Weezy-ov8ed
@Weezy-ov8ed Месяц назад
Shouldn't even be a question, sign him THE F OUTTA TORONTO
@PhiladelphiaCollins451
@PhiladelphiaCollins451 Месяц назад
Im so happy the leafs are in this dumpster fire 😂 Im sure steve dangle is losing his fucking mind and that alone makes me so happy lol
@billverge7822
@billverge7822 Месяц назад
Dubas will hire Keefe this summer
@diogoreis2240
@diogoreis2240 Месяц назад
Well said haysey b
@theshawnkelly
@theshawnkelly Месяц назад
Look, Marner did not have a great playoffs this year, but he’s been a consistent performer in many of the years prior. I’d much much rather see Keefe gone than Marner. Anyone could’ve coached this extremely talented roster to a playoff spot over these past few years. It requires a much better coach to actually get further than that though.
@el222
@el222 Месяц назад
Players showing their true colours including the coach. They will never win because they dont have a winning attitude and takes zero responsibilities.
@ilkkak3065
@ilkkak3065 Месяц назад
So did Matthews get concussion in games 2 and 4 ...?
@Marixa1979
@Marixa1979 Месяц назад
It was an allergy to playoff hockey.
@koshka02
@koshka02 Месяц назад
Its annoying to hear Tavares and Rielly talk as if they just lost the Stanley Cup Final. Its Round 1. You guys are nowhere even close.
@andreleblanc7616
@andreleblanc7616 Месяц назад
Is the golf bag behind Hayes a metaphor for the Leafs?
@haysbrickell9579
@haysbrickell9579 Месяц назад
Does Marner really need to go? maybe Will Toronto be closer to winning the cup without Marner? probably not Regardless what changes may be in the offing, Toronto likely will remain a very good tier 2 team in the EC for the foreseeable future.
@lesevesel2898
@lesevesel2898 Месяц назад
Ideally, they should just let Marner play out that last year (along with Tavares) and then trade them both away in December before the roster freeze.
@gdavho8778
@gdavho8778 Месяц назад
Well if he's a god he doesn't need money.
@Diademic111
@Diademic111 Месяц назад
if any of them truly loved the team or the city they would stop holding the team for ransom and accept a deal that would allow the team more flexibility to sign other players to put them in a better position to win
@kurrentscom
@kurrentscom Месяц назад
So, when your employer tells you that he needs to cut your paycheck by 25% to make his business more competitive, you'll accept. Am I right?
@Diademic111
@Diademic111 Месяц назад
@@kurrentscom there are plenty of stars in the NHL who have accepted team friendly deals to make their teams more competitive... these people make millions, you comparing that to the average person's willingness to take a pay cut to help their company prosper is absurd
@jamesdecember7323
@jamesdecember7323 Месяц назад
It's a ways away according to Reilly.
@monroefuches2707
@monroefuches2707 Месяц назад
Paul Marner sez: "I'll let MLSE know who's going to get traded where. We are Gods"
@tylerjohnson8973
@tylerjohnson8973 Месяц назад
If ur gonna trade him, then yes sign then trade but nothing else
@mateoruddock3056
@mateoruddock3056 Месяц назад
I think what ppl don't understand is its their decision at the end of the day not there's or anyone else's lol
@user-md8mr6ll6z
@user-md8mr6ll6z Месяц назад
Say no to Marner the "God" lol.
@user-ic1gn5bw3q
@user-ic1gn5bw3q Месяц назад
Ask yourself Marner or Domi and Bertuzi. Easy call Marner can drop it on anyone's stick miles ahead of both Domi and Bertuzi.
@js09js09
@js09js09 Месяц назад
Matthews not admitting what his injury was seems very suspicious. Is he afraid that he will look bad by admitting his injury? Maybe it wasn't that serious and he could have played through it. Maybe that is why he doesn't want to admit his injury.
@ginor8416
@ginor8416 Месяц назад
Florida and Boston handled the Leafs too easily in the regular season and in the playoffs. The writing was on the wall for a first round exit. No one has all the answers. But we do know that 50M for the core won’t work in a cap era
@xmohawkx985
@xmohawkx985 Месяц назад
GODS?! Really Marner? Bit full of yourself there especially after that piss poor performance for playoffs. not even a leafs fan but he's overrated AF. 3 points in playoffs? he's maybe a $6M player at most.
@gianttunafisher
@gianttunafisher Месяц назад
not even worth 3 ..get rid of the scared little boy !!
@Blake-jz5bh
@Blake-jz5bh Месяц назад
​@@gianttunafisher not true
@PN-lc3yd
@PN-lc3yd Месяц назад
ask darren dreger if paul marner is okay with it.
@gcmgome
@gcmgome Месяц назад
The problem Brad Treliving faces is a bit tricky. Mitch Marner has a full NMC while the ideal solution would be to trade him in the off season for team needs. If no contract deal is reached, he could walk into the sunset for nothing as a UFA at the end of next season. Marner holds all of the cards unless it is made clear that he is not in the team's future plans. Losing him for nothing to free agency is an undesirable outcome but not near as undesirable as continuing with a top heavy, playoff inept cap structure. Treliving needs to play hardball here. If Marner does not waive his NMC to facilitate a trade, the only choice Treliving has is to let Marner play his final contract year without an extension.
@pattran3030
@pattran3030 Месяц назад
Not necessarily. If the Leafs do decide to move on from Marner, then he runs the risk of not getting an 8 years contract which he can only get with the team he is signed with. I don't see Marner making $11M when he's 34 so it would be worth his while to maximize his earnings by accepting a trade.
@stuffnsuch631
@stuffnsuch631 Месяц назад
Just bench him until he's ready to leave.
@gcmgome
@gcmgome Месяц назад
@@stuffnsuch631 - Treliving playing hardball can take many forms with civil discussion about the realities Marner faces taking precedent. If that fails, benching should definitely appear on the discussion horizon. Marner is heading into the last year of his contract and if Toronto does not extend him, or if he refuses to waive his NMC, any reduced role with the Leafs will have an enormous impact on his future earnings. My fear is that Treliving caves and extends Marner because he is taken in by his plea to stay in Toronto.
@ZZ-950
@ZZ-950 Месяц назад
Yes 8 years at 14 million get it done Leafs. Guaranteed cup win for sure
@allyngraham6952
@allyngraham6952 Месяц назад
Fire Shanny and coaching staff. If you cant trade marner, let Tavares and him walk next year and use the cap space to round out roster
@mister_floppy_hockeyhighlights
@mister_floppy_hockeyhighlights Месяц назад
Can some one please explain to me why mitch isn't worth the money he got?? The guy has played amazingly even in the playoffs! Just look at his career playoff stats he's got the most points out of any active leaf, has more hits and blocked shots then nylander, best +/- out of the core 4, has the same amount of penalty minutes as nylander, plays in every situation because he has good hockey sense and defensive tendencies. I say he's definitely worth the money and he's the second best player on the leafs besides matthews.
@kstorontorealestate
@kstorontorealestate Месяц назад
Shanahan needs to go. He started, built & endorsed this mess
@mattrix4200
@mattrix4200 Месяц назад
The first ''part'' (getting Babcock & Lou Lamoriello) seemed to be the right move... then he drank some stupid juice and let go of Lou (who would've known how to handle the contracts of the Bieber Buddies properly!), he hired Dubas (with ZERO NHL experience as a GM), he by-passed Mark Hunter (a PROVEN NHL scout, talent evaluator, and assistant GM), and then gave Dubas the green-light to write blank cheques in the cap-restricted era of the NHL!!!
@steverichard2786
@steverichard2786 Месяц назад
😂 Absolutely extend Mitch God like Marner 👍
@ryann1080
@ryann1080 Месяц назад
Insane entertaining a contract extension. Trade him or let him walk.
@marie2274
@marie2274 Месяц назад
God Marner.. Good Grief a bit of a narcissist. If all the Leafs players look at themselves as God's, Leafs are in trouble.
@thewilsonhockeypodcast
@thewilsonhockeypodcast Месяц назад
Morgan says that they are close but seems so far away... my gosh. I love the Leafs but the players are now admitting that they are a long way away from winning a cup...
@MILSPECMOM
@MILSPECMOM Месяц назад
No. No they should not.
@user-eq7db2bb2u
@user-eq7db2bb2u Месяц назад
If he likes the organization so much he should re-sign 3 years 3.5 million AAV 😄
@RickyLangley
@RickyLangley Месяц назад
HOW MANY GOOD DEFENCEMEN GET WE GET FOR MARNER?
@Blake-jz5bh
@Blake-jz5bh Месяц назад
Look it wont matter how many changes are made idk what it is with this team but ive lost faith we will be a cup contending team anytime soon how many different cores have we had since 1967 ? None of them can do it , wont make us any better to lose one of our best players for nothing so if you cant get a dmen or a goalie for marner it would be dumb for the leafs to move on from him
@TheViewer3009
@TheViewer3009 Месяц назад
No. Get a legit goalie and a d-man who's solid in his own end and can add some offense to the mix.
@kieranmills1548
@kieranmills1548 Месяц назад
I like the guy, he plays well enough but not for that amount of money, I would resign for less money but not the same amount and not more. I would resign him for 5 to 6 million, cut his pay in half maybe more, if he wants to resign to that amount great if not that's fine too.
@mattrix4200
@mattrix4200 Месяц назад
And how do you plan on resolving the issue that his other ''Bieber buddies'' (Nylander & Matthews) will suddenly feel ''less motivated'' with their effort after Marner is gone? I don't think you realize how crappy this situation actually is and what type of toxic culture Dubas created on this team. No coach, no GM, no management team has more power in Toronto than the Bieber Buddies until they're ALL gone.
@kieranmills1548
@kieranmills1548 Месяц назад
​@@mattrix4200 Nylander & Matthews are both great players who have issues ( less so Nylander) in playoffs with new management this can be fixed, Tavares still has one year left on his contract and is up there in age and so keeping him for less is a non-issue, as long as we build a team, not Matthews in but Woll, Matthews, and Nylander building out from there with new coaching and new management I think it will be fine. Getting rid of Auston Matthews the best goal scorer in the league right now and Nylander the player who scored us the most points in the playoffs would be the wrong move, yes they have issues but issues that can be fixed with new players, new management, and new team culture. fixing them is better than trading them to fight against us. besides the underlying issue is cap space with Mitch Marner gone and John Tavares's contract pay being reduced next time he reigns and the cap going up soon enough the power and leverage they hold will be heavily reduced. So maybe I don't know just how bad the situation is but at least I'm thinking critically about the future and not making poor decisions based on emotions.
@diggydiggz9787
@diggydiggz9787 Месяц назад
"LIKE A GOD"??? He thought it through and still said it!!! He almost believed what he was thinking of saying and said it so convincingly? Haaa his face showed it's not believing his BS...Where's your head at man!? By the way where was Reilly this plaoff round? Good injury prone goalies can't get you far in the plaoffs either. Coach outcoached for consecutive years x5. No doubt the leafs has come a long way however to progress from this level change is mandatory. Bertuzzi out...Marner out...for BLOCKBUSTER TRADE! Older defense players out...goalies situation is a ginormous black whole...Robertson is a power play sniper that should be played as such. Set him up for one timers for God's sake. Nobody wants to shoot on the powerplay? Can't score if you don't shoot!!! Ovechkin only had one move...shoot on net and look where that got him. 2 power play units with 2 shooters...Matthews 1st line with a playmaker to set him up. 2nd power play unit Robertson with playmaker to set him up for the shot. All we have seen is over playing the puck, over handling the passing, turnovers and NO SHOTS ON NET!!! OVER & OVER AGAIN & AGAIN & yet Keefe continued to play overplay the same 1st powerplay unit all year round. REMARKABLE how nothing changed but expectations to do better. CHANGE or DIE and they CHOKED & DIED AGAIN! Surely reality must sink into the stubborn minded in the Leafs organization this time around.
@Intelpol-fz6hs
@Intelpol-fz6hs Месяц назад
Kinda harsh crowd in here. BUT: 2017 glad to be there vs Washington. 2018 Kadri suspended against Bruins. 2019 Kadri suspended again Bruins. 2020 didn't qualify vs blue jackets with Muzzin hurt. 2021 Hyman returning from injury & Tavares rocked by Habs Perry. 2022 G7 lost to TB with no scoring. 2023 R1 win against a bad TB goalie showing. 2024 G7 OT loss to Bruins on weak defensive play by Marner, Rielly, Samsonov? Hot goalies every year except last year, hmmm.
@gameimprovements4347
@gameimprovements4347 Месяц назад
Excuses excuses
@Clue96
@Clue96 Месяц назад
It’s the playoffs.
@mathias2410
@mathias2410 Месяц назад
Players comments are like the village idiot is the PR person.
@rona6063
@rona6063 Месяц назад
Once again Mcdavid and Draisaitl are killing it. Its so unfair.
@Marixa1979
@Marixa1979 Месяц назад
And yet, next season, there will be Leaf fans again, trying to say that Matthews is the best player in the league, definitely better than Drai.
@jamesmarks4361
@jamesmarks4361 Месяц назад
They should focus on getting a better goaltender
@davidrichardohara
@davidrichardohara Месяц назад
I"d rather chase Steve Stamkos, who if i Understand, if a free agent.
@garymurphy4063
@garymurphy4063 Месяц назад
Let him walk.Not worth the money, he got no heart, get someone who wants to win..
@JustaComment93
@JustaComment93 Месяц назад
No
@rodhagerman7309
@rodhagerman7309 Месяц назад
no
@user-tr4jj9pt7x
@user-tr4jj9pt7x Месяц назад
Decisive action? The team is owned by Bell and Rogers. In what other universe would this happen? Decisive action should have been taken after the Montreal debacle, but no three more chances and counting. This series wasn't lost on Saturday. It was lost last week and we're still all waiting for the "next moves!" What a joke. It's definitely not about winning or even competing, for goodness sake.
@danielmaloney946
@danielmaloney946 Месяц назад
On a related note - McDonald's has decided that profits are no longer their main priority - and they have decided to reward their loyal customers- especially the ones with no power to stop themselves from eating McDonald's - by simply doing whatever these customers tell them to do - even though the franchise has never been more profitable, because those obese every-day customers DEMANDED it..they'll get NONE of their demands ,Hayes, until they stop buying the product.
@stogienightclub3074
@stogienightclub3074 Месяц назад
The leafs can't win with Marner on the Team. He shits the bed when it counts. If you want to win games that don't matter he can get some points.
@rodn5616
@rodn5616 Месяц назад
Sign God Mitch to a 2 year without a no trade clause and then trade him.
@petey757
@petey757 Месяц назад
Looked upon as gods😳
@mikepittock9772
@mikepittock9772 Месяц назад
Marner needs to go!!!!
@hafizshariff6710
@hafizshariff6710 Месяц назад
Send this so called "God" out of town
@100Crackfist
@100Crackfist Месяц назад
I always find it funny that whenever a player calls out the media coverage of this team, the media feels like how dare they lol. You can’t ignore the ridiculous amount of coverage of this team, I’d love to see the media own their part in adding to the pressure on players. They are human man, getting trashed in every article for days, weeks, months has an affect.
@brtv9909
@brtv9909 Месяц назад
Not worth the cost.
@gdavho8778
@gdavho8778 Месяц назад
Thanks but no thanks.
@wealthygypsy416
@wealthygypsy416 Месяц назад
12 goals in 7 games 1/25 on the PP they don’t have enough star forwards 😂😂😂 No way he’s removing his NMC, you will lose him for nothing next year which is hilarious. Rebuild coming soon
@anikinkhan
@anikinkhan 9 дней назад
Hell yeah they should be entertaining it. They should be kissing marner's ass right now. Talking that they want to sign in long-term. Everything under the sun to make him think they want him. Signs a new deal without no trade clause. Then trade him.
@pc3666
@pc3666 Месяц назад
Mitch is a narcissist
@NoBodyWhizPurs
@NoBodyWhizPurs Месяц назад
There was only two, real major issues that the Leafs encountered.. 1. Our Lack of Team defense was an issue in the first few games vs Bruins.. (that is a coaching issue) he has not been able to get this team to play proper defense the entire time he has been here.. That difference, could have gotten us one or two more games before our back was to the wall.. This is a FACT...... 2, Our Powerplay.. Not adjusting our powerplay to an entirely new zone entry and attack is again ( COACHING )... This team should have raced to the blue line with speed and chased a dump in,,,, then force point shots while crashing the net... They failed to adjust and we missed out on maybe, 15 more goals which would have ended this series... In Every other area, the Leafs matched or exceeded Bruins play... How do we know this --(((we went to game Seven OT)))... DEFENSE & A PP ADJUSTMENT was the difference.... OVERTIME IN GAME SEVEN.... Only because we played two very bad defensive games!! Thats what killed us and that is COACHING... No One player could change that... Period This Team Is Close.. THis is NOT AN EASY DIVISON.. The Finals have come from our division every season for how Long????? TEAM DEFENSE would have been the difference the entire time but weve never seen it until the last 3 games this series!!! FINALLY THE LEAFS PLAYED SOLID TEAM DEFENSE.... WE SEEN IT MATTERS but then again (coaching failed to adjust the PP).. that is your difference Folks.
@Marixa1979
@Marixa1979 Месяц назад
1. The team defense was exceptional considering the players that Keefe had to work with. They didn't get blown out in any of the games, they were in all of them. The Leafs defensive core is garbage, there isn't a single defenseman that is considered a top 2, and Morgan is a marginal number 3 at best on any good team. 2. The powerplay is full of players like Matthews, Nylander and Marner that are more interested in getting paid than sacrificing to get team success. It's on the players for lack of production, not the coach.
@wbj2000
@wbj2000 Месяц назад
No way ... forget it. Its time to send the "Gods" packing.
@petermozuraitis5219
@petermozuraitis5219 Месяц назад
4x7 mil, to retain him then Trade asap
@kurrentscom
@kurrentscom Месяц назад
He's already under contract for the coming year. There is no retaining anything.
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