So many people have asked about this so here is what I believe the bible teaches. Please provide a HEALTHY and RESPECTFUL comment below! Love ya and let me know your thoughts!
THE BEAT by Allen Parr Thank you!!! As a woman who has recently announced being called into the ministry of preaching, I have greatly wrestled with this. My upbringing is such that women preachers were not allowed at all. However, I knew that the Holy Spirit had guided me into this calling. It 100% was not a calling that I was thinking of doing on my own. No, I am not to be a pastor, at all. A minister? Yes! Thank you for the sound scripture references. God bless you and yours.
THE BEAT by Allen Parr I struggled with this because my grandmother Pastored after my grandfather passed... but when my uncle/ her son "came on over to the Lord's side", she passed it to him and has not interfered with how he has and is currently pastoring. However, according to scripture, I do agree wth this entire video.
THE BEAT by Allen Parr hey man great videos they have really helped me out. Just a question though I’m confused on your definition of logic bc I thought logic wasn’t based on feelings rather it is based on facts and evidence or at least should be when used correctly. Anyways a repose would be great.
I have learned that most of the time even when I think I’m not going to like God’s ways, I end up finding joy in the way he created things to be. I can rest in the fact that his ways are perfect, even if they may not seem to be to us at first.
I wish that Women would get this! As for me, yes, I would LOVE to be a Pastor! However, it does not matter what I want, only what God wants. Thank you for this Video!
Acts 2: 16 No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: 17 “‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. 18 Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. 19 I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and billows of smoke. 20 The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord. 21 And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’[c]
You are so right and that's the kind of a lady I'm looking for but needs to be led by God who joins me together with her Matthew 19:6 God bless you precious
@@biblicalbee2082 I like what you said at the end about being brave by submitting to the word. The hard thing in the matter is a lot of women have trouble following the word of God and submitting themselves unto their own husbands as unto the Lord. And what that means as unto the Lord, is as long as their husbands are in line with the word of God and leaving her correctly according to the will of God then she can follow up under her husband's leadership which God ordained him to be the man of the home from the beginning of time. And husbands need to love their wives enough to die for them, just like how Christ loved the church enough to DIE for them, and gave HIMSELF for us. Ephesians 5:23 25
@@jeffreymartin5386 : If men were really loving their wives in the privacy of their own home and respecting their wives in public and in front of their children , then women would fall safely into their husbands arms submissively. I grew up with a dad who did not do this and my mom was still submissive to him .
Living in the day and age we are in now and being a child of God myself I find it soo humbling to be beside my husband. I would never want to have authority over my husband . He's the head of our family and I'm his helper. We walk beside each other. Helping each other as God designed us to be. Thank you Allen Parr, you brought that out soo beautifully.
Aww, what a blessing as the Lord has tempered your heart. God’s order is always perfect and although many believe and do otherwise, He is the same today, tmrw and forever.
After reading the Bible in its entirety . I believe it clearly states women should Not pator over men . At any time .... can they do other teaching for the kingdom of God yes . Please dont be scared to teach the truth about Gods word . We dont have to sugar coat anything for anybody.
I just found you today. I've listened to quite a few videos already and I CAN'T BELIEVE I'VE FINELY FOUND SOMEONE WHO I AGREE WITH BIBLICALLY!!!! So refreshing!!! You are thorough and clear. This is soooo needed in this day and age!!!
The bible distinctly says that a woman isn't supposed to have authority over a man. In Revelations, it says not to add on or take away from the word. I am a happily married female, and in recent years, I realized their are things the Almighty God has reserved for the male only. And I am absolutely 💯 in agreement with that! 😊❤
As a female and I have absolutely no problem submitting to Gods word and what it actually says. I’m very glad you stuck to the Bible and spoke the truth. This video was very helpful thank you.
@@celticmist14 Whether he did or did not is not a reason to cite for why women today cannot be leaders/pastors. Christ was a JEW, followed JUDAISM to a TEE going so far to wait until 30 years before he began his ministry. He did not marry but I don't see anyone using that as reason why a man should not marry today for obvious reasons. The problem today is that MANY MANY people like Mr. Parr and others here have taken Paul's instructions to the church in HIS TIME and made them LAW for our time. In the process they have done a great disservice to the body of Christ and have removed the HOLY SPIRIT as the TEACHER for us today whose job is to LEAD US INTO ALL TRUTH. Clearly there was STILL MORE TRUTH to be revealed after Christ left and I could assure you, there is still MORE TRUTH to be revealed today. See my comment above for more insight on this topic.
@The bible approves Abortion Supposedly but killed Christians, Jews, and Blacks. He banned books that disagreed with his position. That’s the point I’m making.
We should be bold with the Word and not confine with the world, nothing should astray what the spirit teaches in the Word even if it's against our beliefs, or in contrast to our fears.
I was led to Jesus Christ by a woman pastor. I'm so glad she answered the call to be a pastor. I was suicidal at that time I met her, 20 years ago, and now I have a husband and a family of my own. She started pastoring at 15 and now is 80. She has led many to Christ. I believe it's the Holy Spirit in her that brings the harvest. God bless!!
That's amazing she led you to Christ and many others. That is a mandate by God regardless of gender. However the "office" of pastor is for men and men only. She would be to also teach you and others that she cannot hold the office of Pastor, but she can exercise her gifts of the spirit. Titus 1:5-9 and really close attention verse 16. Go back to the fall Genesis 3 and understand why God created order. This is not a man versus woman or men or better than women, this is a God in His holiness giving us roles and responsibilities in HIS kingdom. I hope your husband is saved and both of you are in the Word of God. I will be praying for you in your walk. (Please note this is said in a conversation tone, not argumentative.) Also, 1 Timothy 2:8-15 is helpful and gives clarity.
I know of a lady who goes to Pakistan to preach. I think she is about 80 yrs old. I have no doubt the Spirit of the Lord is upon her. As a matter of fact. I just watched her on TV today....Dec 27th. ...and she ROCKS. God bless her and her daughter.✝️
God is not gender prejudice, neither is the BORN-AGAIN REGENERATED MAN; the fallen UNREGENERATED UNREPENTANT man is; Many people here are either not born again or don't read the bible AKJV. THEY LISTEN MEN AND READ THEIR WRITINGS. GOD HAS HIS OWN WRITINGS AND PLAN.
I am 11 years old and this channel has helped me alot , I give thanks to GOD for allowing me to see this channel and thank you MR Allen parr for being a true person and not a prosperity peracher aka false prophet.
jocelyn carillo What a dumb fucking question. Do you only want people in here who agree with you? Do you want no challenges to what you believe? Christianity and other religions have perpetuated misogyny and unequal treatment of women. I don’t buy into your bullshit and I speak out against it. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Hi Allen, I’ve been watching your videos for a while and they are so helpful to me. You have an amazing gift from the Lord. Thank you for making these videos. God bless you!
These type of experiences will keep us MARGINALIZED. After reading from Bible, I started questioning everything that is not proper in the Church. Although I expected change but there was none, instead ignored and cut out. For years and years, I followed to honor and submit to the authority, but now I realize it was a huge mistake, as we are not to please people, leaders, pastors ,but God alone.
My grandfather was a preacher for around 50 years..my grandmother was like a rock to him supporting him as he preached to the church..without her i dont know how he could have done it..they were a team.. He preached his last message in a chair and died from heart disease 2 days later... She was his support.. What a great woman of faith she was. I long to see them again in glory. My grandma was a great woman and supporting wife.. We need more of that in this life
@@deborahadeniji808 in the new covenant of Jesus Christ it is back to Genesis 1:26 for the regenerated born-again man only, therefore women don't work alongside men as some in the false religion of CHRISTIANITY would like to have it. In Christ men and women work together in spiritual dominion with Christ the only SUPREME HEAD of the church; they are not over each other as was created by their fall in Eden Genesis 3:12-16 akjv.
saint of jesus Christ I disagree. Some people think they have to say that. There’s a difference. Bcuz people say that men have to be the head all day long but what we actually see happening in life is the opposite. Women are the head and doing everything. While men are doing nothing but chasing their egos, trying to look like strong capable men. So if the man is the head, is only bcuz a woman is casting that illusion, and even then, he is still not the head, bcuz his wife or gf is doing it all. His mother or daughter is doing it all. Women somewhere are doing it all and he is really doing nothing.
I absolutely agree with you the Bible is so clear but we like to change it to how it suits us.. Thank God for wisdom thank you for your channel shedding light thank you for doing God's work
Thank you for this video...I have been trying to figure some of these things out thru scriptures and seeking the Lord. This has definitely helped me by giving me more wisdom, knowledge and understanding and confirmation 😊
Thank you for addressing this topic!! I am a woman, and I am a Church of Christ Christian yesterday a friend of mine and myself we had this discussion she became upset with me I shared with her that I do not find, nor have I read anywhere in the Bible where a woman pastured the church. God has set a standard of order and an example with Adam and Eve the man Adam came/was first with or before Eve arrived that is the order and standard that we are under. not to say that a woman cannot teach she is to teach biblically to save the soul and bring to salvation that soul. like Priscilla and Aquilla but not to Shepard Gods people. if we even look at the examples of Shepards in the bible they are men that Shepard a flock or herd of people the congregation. that's the example that we have it not a position where the example or roles changes if it where God would have had it written in the Bible to tell us or show us. he has vision and fore sight. and his vision did not and has not changed we like to make things comfortable for us. even though a woman may have the gift of spreading the word she is not the Pastor of the flock of God. if she is and or was God would have told us so or had given us examples. men where sent out to lead and grow the church in the new testament
The Judge was the primary pastor/shepherd of God's people during this time period. Full essay read time: 12 minutes free postable here (In case the reader in unaware, the word pastor and the word shepherd are the same word. I prefer shepherd, because it has obvious meaning to the average person.) Major modern English translations like the NASB use the phrasing ...whom I commanded to shepherd My people... In all places where I have walked with all Israel, have I spoken a word with any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people, saying, ‘Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?’ -excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 NASB translation Some believe that pastor (or shepherd), is a position that was created in the New Covenant. This is not true. In the Old Testament shepherds are mentioned multiple times. Often in a negative way. “My people have become lost sheep; Their shepherds have led them astray. -excerpt Jeremiah 50 For an entire chapter on worthless shepherds, the reader may check out Ezekiel 34. When the shepherd over Israel died, the people went back into sin. That is because the Judge was the most important spiritual leader of this time period. But it came about, when the judge died, that they would turn back and act more corruptly than their fathers, in following other gods to serve them and bow down to them; they did not abandon their practices or their obstinate ways. -excerpt Judges 2 Deborah, full essay read time: 12 minutes, free, postable
Allen, I enjoy your channel and you do a wonderful job at approaching different issues in the church. Thank you! This is a contentious subject that quite a few denominations struggle with and have capitulated to in this area. I’ve gone through Bible college at ACU and even at the university level there are those that believe it is ok for a woman to pastor. I know that you mentioned that it is your personal opinion and I’ve approached this from my personal opinion and the biblical text, in its context! Such as you do Allen. I’ve come to find that those that believe a woman can pastor say the same, it is “our”opinion that a woman can pastor and that your missing some of the history as to what the Apostle Paul was really saying about a woman’s role in the church. Unfortunately what has happened is feminism and progressive (ism) has taken a foot hold in quite a few denominations. The Apostle Paul takes it all the way back to the garden of Eden, Adam being formed first and then Eve being created from his rib and so on... It is very difficult to reach those that believe a woman can pastor even men that ordain or allow women to pastor, you cannot reason with them even with the Bible and it’s immediate context and the cannon of scripture as a whole. Anyhow great job Allen! Have a blessed day!
I can use that same garden of eden story. Man was created first. He was given the word first. He was suppose to protect first. Eve was created second. The serpent came to the younger one spiritually. Adam stood by and allowed his wife to be decieved, then when busted by God, he blamed both God and the woman. Thus the reason women were encouraged to learn the word of God deeply, and why when no man is willing to do God's work properly, God will use a Woman. Oh and God did not use a man to create His Son. Now once you all move past the SOT (sex organ theology), then some of the stupidity and apostasy many Male leaders have allowed to creep up in the garden, can start to be destroyed with the help of wise and learned women.
Very well said! As someone who was raised to be a strong independent woman, I agree 100%!!! Woman are just as important as men are in the Church. We are just different and have different roles. I wish society as a whole would embrace our differences and celebrate them.
@CuriouStan 1st Corinthians chapter 14 verse 34. Read it in your Bible and then get back to me. If you go by the Bible you'll see. If you go by opinions then you are on your own
@@dougsmith9352 What are you even talking about? Are you trying to say that women and men aren’t equal in worth? Tell me how the verse you’ve referred to runs opposite to that idea.
@@dougsmith9352 1 cor 14:34 is speaking about tongues and prophesying in tongues, that what the while chapter is referring to in regards to edifying the church understanding of unknown tongues but you do have a point about the specific verse its really not of context to what Paul is speaking about in the chapter if it not referring to tongues alone, what do you make it out to be?
The majority of churches in seattle are run by women pastors which are all liberal churches which are also pro homosexual and pro transgender believes and pro abortion which all of these subjects are sins!
I would like to start by saying I appreciate your willingness to discuss difficult things. Open dialogue always brings clarity in my opinion. That being said, I would encourage you to research the original language used in some of the scripture you referenced. For example, you referenced the use of the pronoun “he” when describing the qualifications for overseers and deacons. If you look at the original Greek text, there are no pronouns used. The pronouns are simply added in to allow the verses to make more sense in the English language. I’m not suggesting translators shouldn’t use pronouns when translating, simply that those added pronouns are not a sound argument to support men only as head pastors. Also, maybe take some time to look into where the role “pastor” comes from in the New Testament, In my research I have found there are no specific examples of a head pastor in the 1st century Church. The closest roles found would be an apostle, disciple, or maybe some one that is prophesying. Women are specifically stated to fill all of these roles. (Junia, pricilla, Phillips daughters, lydia, Tabitha etc.) You could potentially argue that the role of Elders or Deacons would Translate to a head pastor, but I would be willing to bet the your Church has a separate role for elders, deacons, and pastors. (Not the mention the fact that phoebe is specially referred to as a deacon in scripture) When it comes to this topic, there is not one clear answer. It seems almost like scripture is contradicting itself, I believe it seems this way because of our limited context. In these instances I have found it helpful to read the unclear in light of the clear. There are some truths that are repeated and highlighted to many times in scripture that you can’t ignore them, I believe we should read unclear scripture in light of what’s clear. Jesus loved each of us so much have his life to be with us, when he went back to heaven he gave us the gift of his Holy Spirit. In Christ, there are no Jew nor gentile, no slave nor free, no male nor female. When you look at scripture through the undeniable lense of the gospel, things that seem to contradict each other start to make sense.
Thank you for explaining this all so clearly, and for biblically backing it up. I always want to be certain not to offend God, so going to scripture for answers is a must. I also don't believe women should be senior pastors, or even pastors in a church, because the head of a woman is a man. The head of man is Christ and the head of Christ is God. So this is the order God has set things up, and we all must follow it. Thanks as well for clarifying that women are not banned from teaching God word at all, just in the way of pestering over a church and being lead, as that is for man only. Excellent teaching.
What are your thoughts on a female being a minister being under a male pastor? Preaching the word, visiting the sick and shut in. She's not leading because she is under a male pastor technically. What are your views?
I respect what God wants from me. I am a nurse and I use that as my ministry. I would love to be a pastor, but I know my God given place and I cherish it. Keeps me and my family safe.
Please PRAY about it, if God has given you the gifts of ministry you may be being called by the Holy Spirit to be a pastor. PRAY boldy and use discernment there are plenty of cases in which women have churches as Jesus has disciples. We take the gospels as word of God however the context of the time is that women were not educated equally and therefore the women did not write as men did. However women had churches, were deacons. and scripture even points to how women and men have to have a different role in church because of roman law: 1 Cor 34: 'Women[a] should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.' notice how it is not his Law(mosaic or God'd Law which is capitalized and the government or roman law is not.) I also want to mention some senior pastors who had their own church, Aquila and Prisca.
My sister, if God has called you to Pastor you are a pastor whether you want to or not. If you don’t do it you’re being disobedient. Now with that being said, what would that look like for you? It means God has placed people in your life that he wants you to minister to. It doesn’t have to consist of a formal platform. When you open your mouth, that spot where you stand becomes the pulpit. It may be for a season and a reason God chose you to pastor/mentor those few. That’s what pastoring is. God bless
This is spot on with what the bible says! Well done, brother Allen, for sticking to biblical truth! For me personally, I would never want to be in the role of pastor. There is SO much responsibility as well as emotional and spiritual strength needed for that job. People, pray for your pastor!!
Maaaaaaaaan listen. I tapped this video quick. I'm the worship pastor and I have always wondered about this lol. I'm ok with what your saying! Because you were able to back it up with scripture. It's all good. I just want to serve God and the people!❤️
Felecia Harris God bless you Sister Lord Jesus touch Felicia in a mighty way Lord lead her in truth Lord bless this lady as she spreads your word thank you Jesus we ask this in Jesus mighty name amen
I'm sure you are doing a PHENOMENAL job as a worship leader. Once again, it's a tough subject. It really is and I wrestled with it as well. Sometimes I wish we could make the Bible say what we want it to say but we just can't. You keep lifting up God's name in praise! God bless,
Felecia Harris “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.” 1 Corinthians 14:34 KJV
When someone says “I feel”… That is not applying logic, that is Emotion. Logical thinking is helpful when Reading the Bible to discern what God is telling us.
@Soupmaster101 Heather is quite right. Logic is "Reasoning assessed according to strict principles of validity" (Oxford Dictionary) It is not about feelings. YHVH expects us to use our minds (Genesis 2:19, Isaiah 1:18)
There is no subject that riles up the Feminist Christians more than this. They are welcome to call us “sexist, misogynist, patriarch, chauvinist” all they want but they are also welcome to look at the evidence in the Bible which is plentiful and unambiguous. The point here is not to ask “What is fair for women and men?” But rather “What is the best order for the sake of the greater good-the spiritual health and doctrinal integrity of the church?”
Season1 better2 Next time you express yourself make sure you at least have a vague idea of what Biblical doctrine is. The Bible speaks of roles, you seem to ignore that and give a verse that has nothing to do with the subject. Unless your 9 years old; I’d understand. 🤷🏻♂️
Season1 better2 Ignore te word “role”, but you have to discard the term “trinity”. They’re marked concepts. If the Bible says women shouldn’t be an authority over men in church all you have to do is obey. It seems it’s you who wants to twist scripture. 1 Timothy 3 gives the requisites for elders, it refers to men. If you say it applies to women you’re adding words that aren’t there. Then you are what you accuse me of. Stick to your own claims, will you?! 🤷🏻♂️
Isaiah 55:8-9 New International Version 8 “For my thoughts(A) are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,”(B) declares the Lord. 9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,(C) so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.(D)
As a woman living near San Francisco where all the roles, genders and values are blurred and consumed by chaos; thank you for providing Gods word in a clear and inviting way. ~blessings
@@marfialennox2642 I also live in the area. Idk why people make it seem like it's "that bad" here. God is omnipresent. He's just as much near and IN San Francisco as He is anywhere else. I'm not discounting the other comment, but we need to speak truth about this. God is very much here, too. Amen.
One issue I have is, when a man needs counsel, how can he go to a woman pastor? I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that. A man would be better off talking to his wife, rather than to another woman, especially one who has not been called or qualified to be a pastor which no women is. There is a woman "pastor" at our church and I cringe every time she gets up before the congregation. Beside the fact that I Timothy 2 says it is not allowed for women to preach, I Corinthians 14:35 says it is disgraceful or shameful. Enough said.
It isn't that simple. I post on such matters. I have a postable short essay on Deborah (the Judge). I believe the gender matter was settled with her. God wanted to do that early on. Even before the people sinned and asked for a king, that is a man, to rule over them. So even before God was 'rejected', as the scriptures say: ...but they have rejected Me from being King over them. -excerpt 1 Samuel 8 Also a much shorter post called 'Complementarianism' can be pasted up if requested by anyone. It is certainly a false teaching.
Amen! I remember being offended by being told "your feelings don't matter," but I have been convicted from the Word and seeing how this created a slippery slope.
The same reason a man would. God calls everyone to serve him, if we don't do it, who will? Christianity is all about your relationship and connection with God, it's not based by gender at all. Which ever way you choose to serve God, he supports you. No where does it say women can't preach, or men have to preach. It's based on the male led society in thoes days, that's why we assume men have to lead the church.this is really based on the fact that can women preach to men? Because in the video, the man gave an example she can preach over the children's church, or a live session, etc. But not in a senior pastor church or congragation. So what is it? Can women preach , but not to men, or is it that women can't preach at all? until God himself a says women can't preach, that's when I'll change my mind. God gives both men and women gifts to serve him in any way and if thoes gifts happen to be to preach, so be it.
@@Galatians360 but God has called female pastors. It's not about gender, it's about what you are preaching. It's still the same word from God . A woman doesn't translate something wrong to it. Whoever can carry the church so be it. Joyce Myer is an amazing female pastors, I actually understood more from her. If God calls you he calls you
@@Galatians360 Albert of course I know God doesn't value women any less, but the fact that Adam was created first, and women second, doesn't have anything to do with how the church is ordered. Women aren't " acting like men" when they preach they are just doing what anyone would do. God has order and gives specific orders in the Bible, however he never mentioned that women should not preach. There is a place in the Bible where it says women should be silent, but that was from that scriptures writers understanding ( I think Peter). Ok if women should be silent, then how come women can preach in children's churches, that's contradictions your own words!!!!! Btw just because Satan approaches even first and was persuaded and tricked, is PURE HUMAN NATURE. if someone told you to not eat something, but didn't tell u why, or anything about it, its PURE HUMAN NATURE TO BE CURIOUS. Heck even also persuaded Adam to eat it too so what do u say about that. I appreciate your side of the argument, but u gave no viable eveidence to counter what I said.
@@Galatians360 I respect your opinion, but in order to be a pastor, you must preach as we all know. Of course women can preach, but they can also pastor. I am not anywhere trying to put words in your mouth, but the Bible is very clear about how things are supposed to run. And God doesn't joke about the church, therefore he wouldve been extremely specific on who he wanted to lead and preach the church. But he wasn't, because it doesn't matter what gender does, it's about the word you are learning, not who's mouth it comes from. All female pastors were called from God to lead Thier church. Trust me if God didn't want women to preach eh would've said so, and would've told thoes female pastors otherwise 😊
Acts 2: 16 No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: 17 “‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. 18 Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. 19 I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and billows of smoke. 20 The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord. 21 And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’[c]
@@shinritee432 you have itching ears The word of God is clear about that women are not to be pastors here 1 Timothy 2:12 and here 1 Corinthians 14:32-35 and in many other scripture. Women will prophesy that does not mean we will preach it means: Definition: proph·e·sy /ˈpräfəˌsī/ Learn to pronounce verb say that (a specified thing) will happen in the future. "Jacques was prophesying a bumper harvest" in 2 Timothy 4. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Thank you for this I been seeking the Lord about this subject and he led me straight to 1 Timothy 2:12 then I found your video thank you for going by the scripture
A visiting evangelist to my area told us how people kept asking him, "Are you a pastor? A teacher? An evangelist? What are you? He responded, "I don't know. I just do the work." Serving one another in love is our greatest calling to one another, and humility and prayer is vital to knowing our calling.
From what I know (and in no way am I trying to say that I know a lot), some people look at their pastor/s, feel convicted, and think "I want to be a pastor!" Sometimes that's not God's plan for them (as in my case), and sometimes it is (like in the case of one of my uncles). (Btw sorry for any grammatical errors.)
for me God is looking for people who will serve Him, if someone will volunteer himself to serve Him, di you think God will says no? as Jesus said pray to the father to send more workers to harvest the fields? #justforme
Well taught Pastor, beautiful exegesis of truth from the Word. This message needs to be heard publicly on every channel worldwide. Men that are Pastor's need to lift their voices like a trumpet and stand for the truth, and stop being the tail...God, man then woman
I stumbled a cross some of your teaches weeks ago and I know that your wisdom and understanding didn’t come from you but the Holy Spirit for my wisdom came the same. It is always good to see the spirit working in others. Keep up the good work Pastor.
she was Paul's boss, was oftem mentioned before the husband and corrected apollos as well. Great leader... Phoebe deacon, Junia Apostle, Priscilla co-worker in Christ
@@19Ivano75 3 Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus: Romans 16:3. No where does it say she was Paul’s boss a pastor or a teacher of the Word. She was a helper. Stop adding to the word of Gods will remove you from the book of life.
@@sophiacherrington6765 Wrong dear sister, Junia was Apostle, Miriam was Leader, Debora was Judges, Magdalene was the first Preacher, Philip's doughters were prophets, of corse they were not allowed to speak in public nor to learn to read the Scriptures, but does make things better? If so let us come back to slavery, which is what too many people in power would like.
One of the only RU-vidrs I know of that consistently approaches everything Christlike and honorable to the body of Christ. RU-vid is not an easy thing to do and you do it well! Thank you
I have skipped past this video for months because I, quite frankly, was scared of what I might hear. lol I attend an assembly and serve where the senior pastor is a woman (so are 90% of the elders). I've been there for 9 years and serve different auxiliaries, but have been on the fence lately about this topic. I, taking my information from God's word, also have come to the conclusion the role of the senior pastor, as God intended, is reserved for a man. Thank you for clarity. I agree with you. Our assembly is on the brink of merging with the assembly the pastor's husband pastors, and he will be assuming the role as senior pastor.
34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. 1 Corinthians 14: 34-35 This scripture is speaking on orderly worship.
I have to agree with Random Person's comments. Women should support a man in the Leardership role and should not be positioned in a role of a Pastor. I am not talking levels here were you have Jnr pastors Youth Pastors Assistant Pastors and Senior Pastors. To me a Pastor is a Pastor. You are either called by God or appointed by men. The set up of your congregation my sister is in question. You have too much of women there is your Assembly occupying the role set apart for men. No hard feelings though, there is an increasing need to repent and search for God across all denominations these last days. We have messed up the act of true worship by violating scripture and trying to justify our fall through human wisdom.
Brother Allen I think you are sound in your teaching. But I have encountered a lot of women who want to bring feminism into the Church. If you mention this topic you are called a misoginist and it usually quickly goes downhill from there. Thank you for being courageous enough to tackle this subject as not many will.
Yep, that has been my perspective as well. People appeal more to their emotions than anything else and that is what I wanted to guard against. So far the comments have all been respectful. Thanks Wayne,
There is a strong spirit of rebellion that has come into the church in this way. God's order is crystal clear and not argued by at all by serious scholars. The problems come from people simply not accepting what the word of God says.
I have recently found your page and appreciate your content. Interesting how you can say that the verse about women being quiet in church was probably more specific to that particular church and circumstances surrounding it but then generalized other passages.
Actually, the position of senior pastor is not even scriptural. The bible states clearly that there are to be more than one elder leading the flock. ELDERS SHOULD SHEPHERD GOD’S FLOCK. (Acts 20:28; 1 Pet. 5:2.) The word “shepherd” is the same as “pastor.” The work of pastoring is shared by the elders. It is impossible for one man to adequately pastor a church this large. The ministry of pastoring involves doing what a shepherd does for his sheep: He knows them (John 10:14); he leads them (John 10:3-4); he feeds them and guides them into the rich pastures of God’s Word (John 10:9; 1 Thess. 5:12; Titus 1:9; Heb. 13:7); he guards them from wolves (John 10:12; Acts 20:29-30); he seeks the lost and straying sheep and helps heal their wounds by getting them restored to the Lord (John 10:16; Ezek. 34:4-5); he corrects the erring or rebellious (2 Tim. 4:2); he equips the flock for maturity so that they can serve the Lord as He has gifted them (Eph. 4:11-16).
I noticed in the video he kept using the term senior pastor. So I don't think he is exclusively referring to one person but a team. But either way it's clear from the scriptures he presented the roles of men and women on this topic.
Paul says in his epistles that women are to remain humble and silent. It's to maintain order. If women want to lead than they are subject to ALL THE REQUIREMENTS men have had to do to attain their positions mentally and physically, without complaint, assistance from a man or special womens rights.
Super accurate comment. True and soud. However, it misses the main concept of the video ya know... So why throw it out there? Elder or senior pastor, Scripture simply makes this a male role. Just try and stick to the discussion and don't get tangential.
@@pastorsouther "It is an honor for a man to cease from strife: but every fool will be meddling." Proverbs 20:3 Meddle MED'DLE, verb intransitive 1. To have to do; to take part; to interpose and act in the concerns of others, or in affairs in which one's interposition is not necessary; often with the sense of intrusion or officiousness. I have thus far been an upright judge, not meddling with the design nor disposition. What hast thou to do to meddle with the affairs of my family? Why should'st thou meddle to thy hurt? 2 Kings 14:10. 2. To have to do; to touch; to handle. meddle not with edge-tools, is an admonition to children. When the object is specified, meddle is properly followed by with or in; usually by the former. The civil lawyers--have meddled in a matter that belongs not to them. MED'DLE, verb transitive To mix, to mingle. He meddled his talk with many a tear. Webster's 1828, Meddle: webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/meddle
Amen, Brother Allen! Just because women are not necessarily called into Pastorship does not mean they aren’t called into a different type of ministry. My Pastor’s wife is the Lead of the Children’s Ministry of which I am apart of. God bless women who have been called into Christian ministry by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
I dont think so . Seems pretty clear in the bible to me . But I do believe women ministries are so wonderful . Very much needed ! To teach young women how to be a women , helping each other raise children , be good wife's etc. And just a women's bible study and stuff . But no women don't need to lead Great video !
Linda Saffles yes ! And there's nothing wrong with that . It does. Jot make us less than men . We have different yet very important roles . I wish people could understand that so they could be better at serving the Lord and his people properly . Instead of trying to everything men can do . The world as well needs stop claiming it doesn't need men and realize that we need each other ! Without both roles , you can have one really messed up child
Ondrea Torrence Interview 11 : Woman's ministry in the Church - English version / Prophet Kacou Philippe. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9jRkzZ5-uWA.html
I really appreciate this video. I’m a woman who gets to speak in our church regularly but our church reserves the lead pastors role as a mans role. In no way do I find this diminishing to women but in order with Gods word and design. God uses me in so many other ways and I’m so thankful he does. Thank you to the men who lead our church.
Found your channel today and mannnn this is a serious blessing! I’m seeing all the titles and idk which to go through first lol - May God continue to lead you in true wisdom that only He can give - blessings from Trinidad 🇹🇹
I am really grateful as ordained in office I still need to know more am in worship, and as worshiper I think it is very important to study everything concerning leading a worship team what i must do because i was looking over internet for someone to explain this but thank God that i can come across a teacher am willing to learn more not to old to take more in especially the word of God and teachings. so was very well explained thank you🙏
In the verse I have provided below, Paul clearly refers to Phebe as a "Diakonos" in Greek. I have also attached the Greek (strongs concordance) definition of the word "servant" (Diakonos) in that verse to help understand. Women can absolutely do these things, and Paul makes it clear. Hope this helps! Romans 16:1 [1]I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea: Greek: διάκονος Transliteration: diakonos Pronunciation: dee-ak'-on-os Definition: Probably from διάκω diakō (obsolete to run on errands; compare G1377); an attendant that is (generally) a waiter (at table or in other menial duties); specifically a Christian teacher and pastor (technically a deacon or deaconess): - deacon minister servant. KJV Usage: minister (20x), servant (8x), deacon (3x). Occurs: 31 In verses: 29
Though I respectfully disagree with some of your finer points I greatly admire your zeal for The Word. Never lose that appetite for the wisdom and knowledge of The Most High. Be blessed, brother! 👍🏾 (Matt. 5:6)
Thank you pastor Alan for your videos I just found you today 3/16/23 finally someone that is teaching the truth and not afraid to step on toes when needed with love and compassion
Friends help!!!! I can't find a church that does NOT have a female pastor or a church that does not teach lgbt "doctrine". I've tried 3 churches but they judge my past of sin and trauma. I've emailed several churches to speak with the pastor for spiritual help and no ones responding. How do I find a church if there's NO churches? How do I find Christian friends if I can't attend a church??
If God kept for himself 7000 who have not bowed down to Baal in 1 kings 19:18 , then there are men and women around you who are truly living and serving God. Pray that God may direct you to them for he orders the steps of the righteous man.
It's only controversial because too many men and women see these words and interpret them to the extreme, thinking the verses are saying men have all the power and women should be kept silent. Those who believe them to that extent support their arguments without acknowledging the verses and passages that also acknowledge women's value and that call husbands to love their wives as Christ loves the church. What's interesting to me is how even in worldly relationships, the joys and tensions of abiding by God's intended structure -- or not -- do in fact still reflect the Bible's truth! I have always been somewhat amused or saddened by the fact that if only people could understand and pursue this structure as it is intended, it would really become a win-win-win situation!
You have a huge amount of respect from me for taking up this *very controversial topic* . Thank you for not sugar coating anything from the bible and only speaking the Truth . We need that .
Acts 2: 16 No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: 17 “‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. 18 Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. 19 I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and billows of smoke. 20 The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord. 21 And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’[c]
@@shinritee432 This does not say that women can be pastors it says that both man and women will prophesy as in Definition: proph·e·sy /ˈpräfəˌsī/ Learn to pronounce verb say that (a specified thing) will happen in the future. "Jacques was prophesying a bumper harvest"
Acts 2: 16 No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: 17 “‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. 18 Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. 19 I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and billows of smoke. 20 The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord. 21 And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’[c]
As a Christian woman I agree with you 100%! (Our opinions are not necessary to the Bible tho) I loved the part on importance of roles. A dollar bill and 4 quarters look different, and yet their value is the same!
But his opinion is that woman is not a senior pastor, but can be junior pastor. Him and Frank Turek. So do you agree with that or that it is for men only?
This brother has been blessed with such a gift with relaying information out in an informative and respectful way while still being able to be convicting aswell, I believe women shouldn't be senior pastors either but women play such a pivotal role in the body of Christ, but I love seeing men and women of God standing up for there faith despite culture and using the scripture to prove there point and not just there feelings or experience
Allen, you did a wonderful job in handling this sensitive issue according to the contextual truth of scripture. It’s wonderful to hear sound doctrine when it’s rarely preached these days. May God continue to bless you’re ministry and you’re family.
Man, I love the way you teach! You have helped me understand scriptures so thoroughly that truly strengthens my faith and relationship with God!!! Thank u brother Allen!!!
Hi Allen! I was always taught that a woman couldn't be a pastor. You've given me something to learn more about. I had always assumed a pastor was a pastor whether senior or not. Thanks for this!
If you are actually working on a PhD I suggest you read this academic journal: www.cbeinternational.org/resource/article/priscilla-papers-academic-journal/bible-teaches-equal-standing-man-and-woman It explicitly explains how the bible actually does promote woman leaders. Most of our errors in understanding come from not understanding the original Greek or Hebrew
In Rom 16:1-16, Paul greets by name ten people he identifies as colleagues in Christian ministry. Seven of the ten are women: Phoebe, “deacon of the church of Cenchrea” (16:1) and “leader16 of many, including myself” (16:2); Junia, “outstanding among the apostles” (16:717); Prisca, “my fellow worker in Christ Jesus” (16:3; cf. Phil 4:3); and Mary, Tryphaena, Tryphosa, and Persis “worked hard in the Lord” (16:6, 12). First Corinthians 16:16 urges believers “to be subject to every fellow laborer.” First Thessalonians 5:12 identifies “those who labor among you” as “those who are over you in the Lord.” It cannot be stressed enough that Paul is not simply listing these women as believers, but as ministry leaders. Paul greets many believers in this passage, but describes as ministry leaders only ten people, and seven of those are women. The three men are Aquila, Andronicus, and Urbanus. The first two are listed with their wives, highlighting their shared authority. Paul’s naming such a high proportion of women leaders in an open society is unparalleled in the entire history of ancient Greek literature and suggests a level of female leadership in the early church exceptional for its culture.
My first response to this "controversy" is that the Bible is VERY CLEAR about our role in loving others, so if is person's response is vitriolic about this issue, they should really look at themselves and fix that issue before anything else. Second, if a person does think this is wrong, don't attend or support that church/YTchannel/WS and PRAY that the HOLY SPIRIT will convict hearts if necessary. And move on to those Biblical commands that are CLEAR. Going to those in need of salvation through Jesus Christ kinda comes to mind....:)
I appreciate you talking about this subject. It’s something I have wrestled with because I could not understand why many female pastors said they “felt called to preach” (I am referring to being the lead pastor) but scripture said something different.
This one is tough for me because I have a female pastor in a tiny church and when I tell you that she speaks right to me 😣. I really see her as a mentor, as a spiritual big sister. I agree with the Bible of course and now I’m looking to step away from that church.
I totally agree with everything you said! Woman can have an important role but we can’t be lead pastors! I’ve always wanted to oversee young women! Children, teen and young women ministry. It wouldn’t feel right overseeing men.
