Should You be Grinding for Luna's Howl In 2024? (PvE & PvP Review) | Destiny 2 Into the Light

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Today we're looking at Luna's Howl, one of the most anticipated weapons from Into the Light. We spent a lot of time on this one in both PvE and PvP and today we'll go over my god roll recommendations for both.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:22 Weapon Overview
1:46 Magnificent Howl (PVE)
3:26 Magnificent Howl Perk Combos
6:21 Incandescent
6:51 Incandescent Perk Combos
8:28 Other Damage Perks
9:10 Origin Trait
9:29 Subclass Synergy
10:25 PVP
10:48 TTK and Range
11:22 Magnificent Howl (PVP)
13:12 How It Feels In PvP
14:38 Precision Instrument
15:30 PvP Rolls I'm Looking For
16:23 Final Thoughts
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@lucienmoolman8017 22 дня назад

I love the the lore tab for this version of luna's howl. For those that don't know luna was a dog that got killed by the hive and you can see her grave at a vex gate on the moon. The lore tab for this version says that Shaxx gave Josef(luna's owner) a box with 2 war beasts puppies in it.

@augosyx 22 дня назад

I thought it was Valus Forge/Lord Saladin that gave him the 2 War Beasts.

@helleboreofficial4692 22 дня назад

I think Saladin gave Shaxx the box (can't remember), but I'm pretty sure his name was Joseph :0

@xLaniakea_ 22 дня назад

In the dialgoue when you go to grab lunas howl for the first time, isnt he talking with them in the hall of champions in front of your guardian? lol

@Lancersilva 22 дня назад

@@augosyxit was Saladin and Shaxx’ idea. Saladin got the pups, Shaxx delivered them.

@nenzonenzo 22 дня назад

Wow that so lame in a Disney princess kinda way.

@LordBruuh 22 дня назад

Yes it's worth it. Heal clip/incandescent is a workhorse for solar builds.

@nateklempner561 4 дня назад

Luna's Howl also has pretty good reload speed, so that helps with the Heal Clip procs, and Incan. needs no further explanation for how good it is in PvE. The other alternatives are either a sidearm that has no guaranteed drop source, so gl grinding that, or Abyss Defiant, which I dislike for the aesthetics. Luna's is just a fairly basic-looking hand cannon, so it EASILY can be thrown onto any build and look good with the right shader.

@dankerbell 22 дня назад

imma get it for pve just because it's prettier than zaouli's bane 💪

@JohnJohn-bz1lq 22 дня назад

Same

@sirjamjam101 22 дня назад

i think lunas is just as good in low content but for endgame (just a suggestion) zapulis bane is still gonna be better w EP

@chapman2001 22 дня назад

It’s so generic tho

@sirjamjam101 22 дня назад

@@afarbeyond hand cannons are the best in the game i don’t know what ur talking about “not using them for endgame”

@_chopper_ 22 дня назад

Yeah zaoulis bane is so chunky 😂

@andrew.7437 22 дня назад

I friggin love this thing on controller. I've always liked hand cannons but didn't like the recoil pattern of them aside from on 180s. Luna's Howl shoots like a dream for me- I just wish it could roll Firefly.

@IveBeenWithBruma 21 день назад

This is because hand cannons aren't flinch friendly. You occasionally have to ads to correct your aim with them otherwise bullet magnetism will not be in your favor.

@adonutplaysgames 22 дня назад

And people thought Heal Clip/Incandescent was not the roll for Luna's Howl. Ah, redemption. Feels good. Suck it doubters, YAAAH! Great video Mr. Cross.

@ImpetigoWoW 22 дня назад

Yup. Been wishing there was a Heliocentric hand cannon for PvE, and here came LH. Solo content is so much better on my poor hunter. Trash actually 1-taps, so if you're hurting you can save yourself with a little cover and a couple yeah mobs. I ran wayyyy too many solo que Onslaughts, but now she's mine.

@IveBeenWithBruma 21 день назад

Heal clip+MH is the better all around roll for pvp and pve while slideshot is better for dueling in PvP albeit a terrible gimmick in 1v insert number more than 1 here. Slideshot is good on paper but terrible in practice considering the current meta.

@nobodycares3085 21 день назад

who was people? your family? your 2 friends? everyone ive played with is after that roll lmao

@adonutplaysgames 21 день назад

@@nobodycares3085 Lol guess you didn't see the replies to my comment on Cross' Luna's Howl damage test video. Quite a few people called the roll trash 🤷🏻‍♂ also, bit presumptuous of you to think I have friends 😂

@Multi212Sonic 16 дней назад

@IveBeenWithBruma I disrespectfully disagree. I need heal clip incandescent for my solar build because sunshot sounds ugly and I can't mute it. 😂

@ruddredding 22 дня назад

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@Alex-ug9wx 22 дня назад

You’re probably the only RU-vidr, out of hundreds I’ve subscribed to over the years, who can do an upload pretty much every day and I’ll still click on every one. I never get bored of your videos!

@RebelOfTheNorm242 22 дня назад

Facts. It really is his charisma. Dudes a charm

@justinlaw7915 22 дня назад

He's also extremely knowledgeable and will try new stuff that's not just meta.

@JohnSmith-uf3yn 22 дня назад

Glazing this unemployed 37 year old shill is crazy get a job

@thessaloniousbadonkious 21 день назад

@@justinlaw7915 Aztecross is many good things, but knowledgeable....ehhhhh.

@wookieehairem2557 22 дня назад

Your advice on how to get luna's/nf back in the day was what made me follow you, I never got nf (I did get close a few times) but your tips and encouragement made this non pvp main really try to improve and stick it out and while I mostly dislike pvp as it is nowadays that feeling of trying to get better has still stuck with me. Thanks dude.

@travissteele6239 22 дня назад

Ran transversive steps with the curated roll last night, loving it ❤ Logged 200+ kills

@findthereal12 22 дня назад

The funny thing is that OG MagHowl was really strong in PvE and slept on by most. It was like only hitting 2 precision shots gave a 50% boost in damage or something until you got a kill and could be continuously re-procced on beefier targets. People just focused on the Maghowl twins ruining Console PvP for months.

@IveBeenWithBruma 21 день назад

It wasn't slept on just over shadowed by better primaries/energy slots like Redrix Claymore.

@Alassandros 22 дня назад

I love 180's. They're the only hand cannon that feels good to me so having a hand cannon that feels like a 180 but hits like 140 is allowing me to expand experience a vit and I'm here for it.

@fringehouse 18 дней назад

got a SHINY Heal Clip/Incandescent roll last night as my second ever drop of Luna’s, couldn’t be happier

@RebelOfTheNorm242 22 дня назад

Ive fallen In Love with precision instrument/enlighted action roll Both perks just build on hitting an enemy. It’s a MONSTER of a dueling roll.

@BiGBoAb19831 20 дней назад

Same. I have that roll and it feels good

@EvilResidentXIII 22 дня назад

Its wild, I HC's are probably my least used weapon class and I landed a throwaway roll of this with heal clip & precision instrument and I've ened up using it in IB all week.

@melloman999 19 дней назад

I got exactly the same roll. But I didn't try it in pvp thinking it won't work. I'll try it tonight

@NYKgunna 19 дней назад

Appreciate the breakdown cross

@Mikoto_Suou 22 дня назад

heal clip incandescant lunas paired with the path of the burning steps feels really good in PvE

@mike00wazowskii68 21 день назад

You just became my favorite destiny player … eye of the storm precision instrument my god roll I’m lookin for

@Orivv123 22 дня назад

Encore + precision instrument is amazing !

@AeonsAegis 21 день назад

Precision instrument feels like old Mag Howl. Great video!

@QIDOM 22 дня назад

I’m not a crucible player and I’m not a HC user in PvP but I tried an eye of the storm/opening shot roll with hammer forged/ricochet rounds and I was actually doing great. It actually surprised me. I was on PS5 as well.

@Rain-uw3cp 20 дней назад

This roll is goated and no one is talking about it. Opening shot is fantastic on lunas, it’s the only perk aside from maybe slide shot that extends the weapons range, and gives an insane amount of aim assist. Eye of the storm also helps a lot in duels.

@josephparrino7563 19 дней назад

Exactly what I'm looking for, no luck yet

@stocktawk 22 дня назад

About to play for first time in weeks tonight. Can’t wait to see if I can get this to drop!

@TDubz4 22 дня назад

Super solid review

@djberzerk 22 дня назад

Don’t sleep on encore!.. got a fullbore ricochet encore precision instrument role with a range masterwork...feels great and that 71 range is icing on the cake!

@BayouRambler 22 дня назад

I got the exact same roll! Already have over a hundred kills with it in PVP. I'm still grinding for that slideshot / mag howl....but if I don't get it for comparison reasons...I'll be happy what this roll does for me.

@iamboringvideos6832 22 дня назад

Atm i got encore incadescent, but hopefully i can get better one soon

@DrMetalpin 22 дня назад

Yep. That’s my roll. Great in PVP.

@digizilla164 22 дня назад

@iamboringvideos6832 don't sleep on incandescent ive gotten so many extra kills from that perk in pvp.

@KingConan 22 дня назад

Just got one with hammer forged…66 range, 67 stability. Loading into IB now 😁

@Anchor-Supreme 22 дня назад

My best guess for an enhanced Mag Howl is just a small stat boost, probably to either Stability or Range. Given how powerful the perk is, I doubt they’d go as far as to give it more stacks on difficult targets.

@fitupan9474 22 дня назад

they'll probably just up the max stacks just like explosive light

@madcheshire240 22 дня назад

Loving the new Luna's. Already have more than 5k kills on my Incandescent/Heal Clip roll.

@shogubei 22 дня назад

This only solidifies my love for Luna's Howl. I love how the gun feels as a PS5 player, i got the god roll on PvE and might grind for the PvP rolls too.

@rebishaz 22 дня назад

I was waiting for this vid! Thanks cross

@Seven-Lights 21 день назад

Something I want to mention about enhanced incandescent that isn’t mentioned enough, is that additionally to increased the amount of scorch stacks, the tick duration of incandescent scorch get increased, as well as the tick delay. For example, with regular incandescent you get a large initial burst of aoe damage, then a tick damage number, but that number slowly goes down before the effect wears off. With the enhanced perk, scorch last longer and the tick damage decay decreases at a slower rate. This also means that the stagger capabilities of incandescent scorch also increases due to the duration increase.

@traviswoodruff2963 21 день назад

The encore/precision instrument roll I got has been my favorite roll in pvp so far. It made pvp fun for me now which is rare for me nowadays.

@xThatGamingCouplex 22 дня назад

Literally my first (and only) Luna's Howl shiny has Slideshot/Magnificent Howl & Heal Clip/Incandescent. Let's goooooooooooooo.

@AllShallFallX 22 дня назад

Been loving encore mag howl

@scwintz101 22 дня назад

last night i got a shiny luna with slideshot, mag howl, harmony, enlightened action, richochet rounds, armor piercing rounds, fluted barrel, and hexagonal rifling. stability masterwork.

@TsuriaDragon 22 дня назад

Subsistence and incandescence is a fun combo to use great for add clear 😄

@JH-vb1wo 22 дня назад

I think Lunas is fine on smaller maps but on large maps it struggles a lot and I decided to use austringer with eye of storm zen moment and crimson and those 2 hand cannons can do well from farther ranges and tons of accuracy compared to lunas. Lunas I for some reason have trouble hitting rapid precision shots I’m jus not big on the 180ish feel. Not a bad hand cannon at all but when you look at all the hand cannon options we have that is also craftable it’s hard to chose Lunas over those

@yankeesusa1 20 дней назад

I just got a subsistence and incandescent and didn't even know it. Can't wait to try it with solar class.

@alexmurillo6468 21 день назад

Got a shiny with slideshot/eots & pecision instrument. Feels great!

@CptJackMySparrow 22 дня назад

PVE: sub/incan PVP heal/kill clips have been my go to rolls

@Diitttoo 22 дня назад

With xür sellinf hawkmoon this weekend, would you recommend buying it? Or stick with luna's howl?

@cameronalt190 22 дня назад

I actually got the heal clip/incandescent roll not too long ago. Feels good so far.

@anthonyreyes6883 22 дня назад

I have a full bore high cal roll with slideshot precision instrument and a range masterwork and it’s the best feeling hand cannon I’ve used

@FYATroll 22 дня назад

I do wanna say that harmony is solid as we get more and more high ammo economy specials. For instance, using something like tusk of the boar as your "primary" and then swapping to luna's for orange bars with harmony is better than people think. I use this roll on kept confidence for pve.

@user-th4ir7qm3q 22 дня назад

Got the shiney, small bore, appended mag, eye of the storm, mag howl, subsistance and incandescent.

@Djoki1 22 дня назад

First shiny, second or third drop ever got me a subsistence/incandescent roll. Been some real good fun on solar hunter. Still gonna hunt heal clip/incandescent as solar hunter needs more healing. Still can't get used to 180 recoil @140rpm though it's just weird.

@josephatkinson6280 22 дня назад

You don't need more heals on solar hunter if you know how to build it lol I can keep restoration and radiant up every single encounter in pve. Add wormhusk or assassin's cowl and you're even more set.

@Arvynm 19 дней назад

somehow heal clip + desperate measure is really good with ember of benevolence ability build, it really give you ability to spam nade, melee, and ability on warlock, perfect pair with verity brow exotic

@zak2986 22 дня назад

I don't use hand cannons in pvp, but i got a shiny drop with kill clip + eye of the storm so I played a couple iron banner games with it (on controller) and it felt pretty noice. 👍👍

@JJHype 22 дня назад

You can also run Traversive Steps on Warlock to refill mag without reloading.

@darksteeldemon7751 22 дня назад

I have two for PvE. Incandescent/Heal Clip and Discord/Harmony. I think the Discord/Harmony roll is odd, but still fun with something like lucky pants to just pop off on a group of spread out adds. Kills refill the mag and you do increased damage. Feel like what The Last Word should be for PvE.

@Itzaraya1 22 дня назад

I got a 66 range heal clip/prec inst and its by far my favorite roll

@HAWKER37 18 дней назад

I have a full bore accurized EotS and MagH roll with a range masterwork. It performs exceptionally. Getting two stacks of magnificent Howell to kill into Shots is not that bad. You just have to be mindful of your magazine and even in the comp playlist it happens often enough to make a huge difference.

@HAWKER37 18 дней назад

I meant ricochet not acc

@mybags_a_dragon 22 дня назад

Enlightened and incandescent is what I finally got over the shax drop

@BirdMoose 22 дня назад

The other benefits of precision instrument is that it counters healing/ overshield use, and can secure the 3 crit when experiencing range falloff.

@kidd_hidro 22 дня назад

I have a smallbore richochet slide shot opening shot range mw and I love it so much

@alkaztgaming9835 21 день назад

i landed a heal clip + incandescent while watching this. thats a sign. im keeping it lol

@Username18981 21 день назад

Love heal clip incandescent with a precious scars titan. Solar juiced up banner of war and explosions

@Ynot2711 22 дня назад

How will they retroactively enhance/make stuff craftable? Will we auto have the patterns or have to refarm for red borders?

@A_Gent_Agent 22 дня назад

I have a Luna Howl with encore and mag howl - it's pretty damn noice!

@iponce2 22 дня назад

my second luna's drop was a shiny with subsistence incandescent. It's def a "me" roll, my most used legendary is a long arm with sub dragonfly lol. I like this gun a lot, but I'm sure thats also partly because I never had it back in the day

@R377R0 22 дня назад

Been chasing this roll. 2500 waves and I get garbage.

@emmo00x 22 дня назад

@@R377R0 wait u can track how many waves of onslaught you have completed??

@iponce2 22 дня назад

@@R377R0 I feel this. I've got like 3 shiny successions and they all have 0 good perks lol. difference is im not chasing that gun at all. keep grinding man, I think this gun is great

@PronouncedX 22 дня назад

Enjoy that shine brother! What an amazing drop, 100% a great combo and pick! You deserve it man, yuhhhhhh 🤙🤙

@Xeriark 22 дня назад

I play on m+kb and I still love Lina’s Howl as it stands rn. Feels super consistent

@Dbc349 22 дня назад

I have a heal clip Luna’s Howl and I love it with my Starfire Protocol Build.

@Mythaldin 22 дня назад

Been loving my heal clip/incandescent. Never got the crafted Zaouli's Bane, so i've been using Epochal Integration instead. While i like it, I don't care for stats for all. Hopefully I'll get a shiny one eventually.

@ThtSunbreaker 21 день назад

Incandescent heal clip my beloved

@lyrictdk 22 дня назад

Granted I didn't try it in pvp, I gotta say that Luna's on m&k just feels right to me, I did a run of Pantheon with it, sunshot, and the neomuna one and Lunas was by far my favourite feeling of the 3

@Jwebbplayz 21 день назад

I have that roll for sidearm also but one of the devs need to tilt it up and drop the rear sight animation as it’s tougher to see enemies or getting higher accuracy shots.

@savagestrong9734 22 дня назад

I use Luna howl with heal clip and MH on solar hunter with celestial nighthawk. It feels awesome on hunter solar subclass

@Enynra 22 дня назад

I got a solid one that's not shiny. Full bore, ricochet, slideshot, precision instrument with a range masterwork

@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 22 дня назад

Also Mag Howl gives crazy damage fall off. In PvE and PvP it's nice. You get into a more medium range engagement to get the initial stacks then once you've got them you can play a bit more at range. Even more range (for the first shot) with Slideshot or Encore.

@7z181 22 дня назад

Yes because of the synergy of mag howl with subsistence and slideshot.

@DermyOP 22 дня назад

got the shiny with slide, mag howl, heal clip and incandescent. It’s super good but I’m not really great at pvp so I doubt I’ll see it’s full potential

@jdjamiso1 22 дня назад

If you're using Mag Howl, you should almost Always go for the 2 tap. If you're running a damage perk for a 2 head 1 body set up, you might as well just use Kill Clip.

@12345pph 22 дня назад

But what set mag howl apart from killclip is that it don't have a timer and you can swap between weapons

@everythingtankpit 22 дня назад

Sound logic if every engagement you take is a 1v1…the amount of team shots in any lobby is insane and the amount of 1 tap kills I’ve picked up following my blueberries or the amount of times I’ve helped a blueberry win and not die by hitting a 122 is pretty substantial it may not be as clip worthy or satisfying as a 2tap but it can def still help swing engagements/matches. Its literally a bow headshot with no draw time for doing what you’d normally do anyway

@imberaeris6768 22 дня назад

Discord is a fun sleeper pick with mag howl. You have to swap a little more but it’s super easy to build a 10 stack.

@KayronTho 22 дня назад

I got this on a shiny roll that I’m eager to try out in PVE.

@Actual_Proof 22 дня назад

small bore-high cal-heal clip-precision instrument-range mw on solar with radiant and benevolence is my go to after trying out so many rolls.+frostees & radiant dodge (on your mark to help lacking handling and reload), thank me later x

@TheShelton78 22 дня назад

Imo the best perk combination on Luna is Encore with Precision instrument. Just a great synergy

@scotts6067 22 дня назад

I will get it but I have pulled Not Forgotten out of the vault so I’m not going to lose sleep chasing LH.

@brandonspeed 22 дня назад

I've got an encore precision instrument roll, and while I've got a 2.6kd on controller, im awful on Mnk, but using this and midnight feel so good (probally the 100 aim assist i got 💀) It definitely has me enjoying hand cannons like i used to

@kyleczapinski8746 22 дня назад

Am iissing something on ember of benevolence? In the video he says, and the texts says something different then in game. Does it work on giving yourself those things or only teammates? In game it says giving your allies those things so im confused

@RuiNDieM1988 22 дня назад

Bungie was pretty generous with the curated Luna's Howl so if I don't get a shiny God roll I won't sweat it too much. That said I do hope my luck improves because I haven't even got a base Luna God roll and I've only got 1 shiny all week (Full Bore/fluted barrel, High cal/appended mag, Discord/enlightened action, and Kill Clip/Desperate measures, and a stability masterwork. It's not awful by any stretch but it's not what I'm looking for.

@TheWittingJoker22 22 дня назад

Shaxx gives you really good one after finishing its quest (smallbore+ ricohet rounds+ eye of the storm+ magnificent howl+ handling MW)

@SpudzMcKenzy 22 дня назад

One of the biggest reasons I don't use hand cannons is because of their animated diagonal kick (outside of 180's). It has always messed with my aim and threw me off. I'm grateful to have a hand cannon with an animated vertical kick. Maybe I'm an outlier in this, or I'm a complete numpty, but whatever. This'll be one that I actually try to farm for and try to use.

@charlesabuah2331 22 дня назад

You're not alone. Many players, especially those using a controller, find it hard to use handcannons for the reasons you mentioned. The 180 RPM hand cannons have always been an exception, so it's great that Luna's Howl is back as a 140 RPM hand cannon with a precision frame.

@idjit3697 22 дня назад

Mine rolled with Magnificent Howl & Eye of The Storm

@JT-ih2rx 21 день назад

I got one with hammer forge, extended mag, slide shot and howl with stability masterwork would that be good?

@Puncils 20 дней назад

Thought I’d share I just got my first shiny lunas.. it has eye of the storm and slide shot in column 3 and magnificent howl and opening shot column 4 :))) range mw

@AnonymityIx 22 дня назад

that's so weird. I love the way luna's howl feels on M&K and I never used it previously. I see youtubers love guns like sunshot though and I absolutely hate the feel of that weapon. I guess it all comes down to preference. I'll keep doing work with it

@matthatter3353 17 дней назад

Supposedly there’s been more testing on PI and it doesn’t really do much for anyone higher than 5 resil. I think it adds with extra damage not even a meter in range while still needing 3 crits

@alexandersveryown4760 22 дня назад

It's the first HC with HC & Inca, I think? So it's worth it for me. Sure, I don't NEED heal clip, but it's nice to have.

@DanteDH2 22 дня назад

I personally hope they add magnificent howl to eyasluna, it would be such a good combo especially since they did the same thing for d1 hawkmoon and eyasluna (making them both look similar and have somewhat the same inclusion of perks)

@dakotaharmon9843 21 день назад

I got the slideshot maghowl for pvp just trying to get healclip incandescent for pve.

@walrusdojo 22 дня назад

A Discord/Harmony roll pairs so well with an Auto/Recombination Mountaintop. Add a Rampage/KillingTally Hammerhead for a monster loadout all from free, approachable content!

@FluffyFlounders 21 день назад

Try subsistence / incandescent, its a great combination but it starts to struggle in harder content.

@Quote_ation 21 день назад

Only got one Shiny so far, and I got Heal Clip/Incandescent!

@Baconator1560 22 дня назад

I suck using hand cannons. My go-to loadout for crucible is Suros Regime and Shayuras Wrath. I then have Actium War Rig with 92 stats.

@vincethegreat3066 22 дня назад

Probably impossible for me to get 5 red boarders for a zaouli’s bane so this is going to be my go too Solar HC. I’ve gotten some nice shiny rolls but still hunting for that Heal clip + incandescent roll with a reload master work.

@IhasCaramel 22 дня назад

So back then, when I had both NF/LH like in opulence we found out the og magnificent howl was good in pve because of the constant precision damage once you had the perk going. I figured the new one wasn't going to be a nice addition to pve.

@Zakharon 22 дня назад

Do not ignore subsistence + incandescent for pve it is pretty good

@COREcasual 22 дня назад

All I wanted was a heal clip/incandescent roll because I only play PvE...it took over 60 drops for me to finally get that roll.... but the range is crap lol... so back to the grind

@Spatan295 19 дней назад

I’ve been trying forever to get heal clip/incandescent. Best I’ve gotten is enlightened action/incandescent. I like the second roll a lot, but the first combo has been impossible for me. He’s so frustrating.

@Yeezus04 22 дня назад

Got one with slideshot and pi with hammer and high cal feels amazing I prefer pi over howl cause I also play a lot 3v3 since howl is way better in 6v6

@Phoenix13Fury 22 дня назад

Idk man, I got one with discord + heal clip on 3rd and incandescent + kill clip in 4th and it's amazing. However I have yet to use it in PVP, and I'm a controller player...I am now inspired 😎

@DanielMorales-jm3ll 22 дня назад

I still wanna see some magnificent howl damage testing with 10 stacks and lucky pants

@jubal1131 22 дня назад

Heal clip has been one of the rarest perks I've ever seen (or haven't seen) on a weapon roll. Out of about 2 dozen drops, I've only had one drop with heal clip one time. 😭

@IveBeenWithBruma 21 день назад

I got the dumb roll of hc+mh but will most likely never use it since I have better hand cannons prepped for final shape like the explosive+KC drop mag Kindled orchid I've saved since black armory.