Should You Buy The IONIQ 5 Or The Mustang Mach-E? 

What about the range?

@@level5detail I assume you live in a hot climate environment

@@ll2k89 California 😁

@@level5detail How people look at you? I saw 2 in LA so far and they stood out from all the same looking Cayenne, Range rover, G-wagon Suvs. I bet you get more attention than G-wagon.

@@sebastian3004 I can definitely confirm that! I drove it around Miami last night and it caused some serious rubbernecking. It is definitely an attention getter, if that's what you're looking for.

I ordered a mache mid Oct. just checked the order status over the weekend and saw the msrp increased by 2k. Ford should have honored the original order price.

Mustang looks way sexier

Ioniq 5 definitely isn’t as cool though

It’s not easy to get an ioniq 5 either

@@lfhao7969 I test drove one and could’ve bought one yesterday they had them on lot . Mach e’s you can’t get right now for less than 53k on the standard and can’t even test drive them . The factory stopped accepting orders

Free charging for 2 years?!

@@Mbl2ss yes you get 2 years free charging with Electrify America which gives you 10-80% in 18 mins too so awesome

@@pm9079 omg that's amazing. I was looking into this or the BMW i4 and maybe tesla 3 (v unsure of this one) and how does the 7500 reduction work? First time buyer here!

@@Mbl2ss basically the government will match up to $7,500 of your federal taxes,

Congrats on the new car! One of the most important factors for me when it comes to picking a car is the sound system. How were the speakers in the ioniq 5? (bass? volume? etc.)

Hard to say when you see it standing alone it does look like a smaller car. When I see it next to the Mach e in next to the Tesla model three I’m surprised again at how large the ionic five is. The shape of it reminds me of an 80s hatchback and I guess that’s why I think compact car when I see it but it’s actually a pretty decent size.

I agree, the Hyundai is a lot lower cost.

Now imagine if the Mach E was built by US union workers instead of Mexican workers and that price difference will jump much more...

Did you try CO dealers? Some were honest about not having adm when I emailed almost all of them

@@AlumarsX I live in California. Most are charging a $5k+ up charge as a "market price." One example is $48,520 MSRP and a $55k "market price."

@@AlumarsX I live in CA. Here is an example from a dealership. MSRP (sticker) of $48,250. "Market price" is 55k.

@@BrianHoJazz I know, I live in KS and was also considering purchasing out of state so I emailed a bunch of dealers in TX, IL and CO. Half of them told me they don't charge ADM. There's a list of the dealers that don't charge extra on the ioniq forums

@@AlumarsX - which forum? I’ll investigate more.

It took Tesla a couple years to nail down a consistent iphone/car experience. I wish all the luck to Ford.

The phone as a key is one area that needs improvement. I purchased a key Fob after 2 months of ownership.

Yeah, you don't sit in the frunk, you want that extra space inside where you sit.

Yes, I think with seats down the Ioniq 5 has significantly more space inside.

The mach E is 1.5 inches longer, has significantly more trunk space, and interior space, and has a larger battery. The specs are on their website

I live in Arizona and found one dealer in Arizona - Sanderson Ford - that did not charge a markup. Ordered a MME - GT PE from them. Now waiting for a delivery hopefully by June. All other Ford dealers here here have markups of $5k-$15k.

I think both cars look sexy AF. Mach-E is more traditional Sexy and the Ioniq 5 is more futuristic Sexy. I honestly think you can't go bad with either car. For me it would come down to which lease deal would be better of these two. Which can I get a better lease deal on.

@@laloajuria4678 i believe they already have another channel. I am following it.

​@@laloajuria4678 We've already launched a general EV channel (ru-vid.com/show-UCEIqn38lVkFOtzwTK-d1o3w ) and we're planning out some content for that. Our Mach-E channel can also keep us quite busy with the updates the Mach-E is already getting -- not to mention the fact that Ford has plans to greatly increase Mach-E production and improve it every year.

I drove both and ordered the Ioniq 5 without any doubt... the ride of the Mustang was hard, didn't like it at all, also the many features of the Ioniq and the lovely dual screens and the head up display, make the Hyundai such a pleasant car to drive

I would highly recommend the Hyundai over the ID4.

Me too! I ordered the ID.4 Pro S AWD, but I’m cross-shopping the IONIQ 5 and EV6 now that they’ve arrived. One of the dangers of the 8 month wait to deliver, I suppose. The heated windshield is still the “killer app” for the VW, but I’m waffling.

Ioniq 5 is a much better car than the id4. It shouldn't even be a question (having driven both extensively, bought an Ioniq 5)

@@guybrushthreepwood3002 Thank you for the reply. I haven’t been able to test drive the IONIQ5, but I suspect I will agree with you once I have. I don’t think there are any available in WI yet, and the closest appears to be 118 miles away. It might be worth a road trip.

@@stevenjudd2383 I'm seeing some listed at wi dealers as "in transit". So it might not be long if you're willing to wait a bit.

That's temporary. But yeah it's stupid

@@megaroeny do you just go around copy and pasting? Explain how its temporary in any way, shape, or form? They have no fucking batteries to sell cars, you need to build plants to manufacture batteries or have some serious suppliers that would rather supply you instead of some other company. but ya only temporary for 3 years until they get that going

Not sure where you live but if you are in Metro Atlanta most of the dealers have them.

Sorry to hear that. I was lucky to be in one of the states that has it. You could work out a deal for MSRP via email if you are up for the drive. You can get then to send you the contract with the manager's signature to ensure that there won't be any surprises when you get there. I love it for what it is, but it's definitely not perfect either.

You are correct on the charging.but the hda2 is on the sel trim. This is my car in the video that Kyle is testing and it does have highway drive assistant 2 with lane change.

@@jeepsandevs486 good to know. Thanks. I was based on the info from Hyundai website. Does yours have 360 camera? I'd assume the auto lane change is based on camera system

@@dearbulls it does not it's based on the radar

That's temporary. But yeah it's stupid

They said not available in Georgia until June, I just bought one, they are rolling into dealers.

what states are they available in?

@@AGDesigns123 AZ, CA, CO, CT, FL, GA, IL, MA, MD, NC, NJ, NM, NY, OK, OR, PA, TX, VA, and WA

@@FreddyRozen wheres HI (hawaii)?

ID4/Polestar both look bland

The Mach E GT only gives 5 seconds of max performance while the the Kia EV6 GT-line (not the full GT) already gives mid-low 4 second acceleration without nerfing the performance...

Naive question, I suppose, but did you manage to find one in the Seattle area without markup?

@@wegtennis8740 no, but I did get them down to a couple of thousand over MSRP. They started at 5k. The demand still out strips supply, but I have a hunch that supply will ramp up quickly. BTW rear wheel drive models are actually in inventory at some US dealers.

good choice ! I've had mine for a month and LOVE IT !

@@DanAchatz1 did your Ioniq 5 arrived and how was it so far?

@@maga6319 not yet. The truck driver shortage is delaying shipments from the port of Portland. They are hoping it will come in the next couple of days.

Today, the Hyundai Ioniq 6 can charge from 0 to 80% in 18 minutes, gets a summer range of 361 miles, and many more 800-volt chargers have been built. Your future is much closer...

I’m really curious about the upcoming Polestar 3.

@@cypvh74 It'll be expensive. BMW X5 pricing. But it'll be nice.

Disagree totally. Tesla is so much better as a whole.

This is a great thread start, but I want to hear WHY you each think so! I’m debating both of them and need all the details

@@midnight121190 here are my reasons: If you care about the range, my Ioniq 5 RWD gives me 488K every time I charge it to 100% but when I charge it to 90% I get a minimum of 430 to 450KM. I paid for it 55K after rebates included taxes in Canada and I can charge it in between 18 to 28 minutes from 10% to 80%. If you want to pay around 89K + taxes then you can get Tesla Y and it gave you the same or maybe less KM range. However, Tesla's software is unmatched in the market other than that Inoiq 5 wins it for me. 40K price difference is a lot for a lot of us. I am sure others may disagree but this is my personal opinion and experience.

@@ferooz303 thanks for replying! I definitely see the range, charge speed and apparently the ride comfort (what do you think btw?? Comfy as claimed?) as all being a huge plus to the ionic. I’m honestly surprised and excited by how many people say the Hyundai has the best ev ride quality. I have a Tucson now and it’s loud and not overly comfy - though it wasn’t at the same level the ionic is lol. The ride quality on the m3 I test drove was one of the things that stood out. My main issues are the storage size and charge network. When we camp or road trip… we don’t pack light and the Tesla has what seems like a TON more room. Two people can literally sleep in the Tesla comfortably with the climate control running only losing minimal power overnight. It’s tempting. So it’s more expensive (about $15-25k here too) but it also seems like a way bigger car with a better charging infrastructure). Going from Washington to Colorado with a Tesla, no problem. Same trip no Tesla… looks challenging or slow at best right now. The ionic’s 2 years of free charging is tempting though. There are literally great points to both.

@@midnight121190 I am not an outdoor person however, I recently took a 6 hours road trip with my buddy who has an Audi E-Tron SUV 2021 and I can tell you with confidence that in 6 hours I hardly noticed if I am tried or not. The drive was smooth and the seats are great. Storage is the same inside I think however, Tesla has more storage in the Frunk. Electrify America is everywhere nowadays and the charging was very convenient. During my trip, my buddy had to charge twice for our 500KM trip while I only charged for 8 minutes once. I agree Tesla has a great charging network however, there are a lot of charging stations for none Tesla cars, especially in the USA. By the way, IONIQ 5 is one of the rare cars that has an adapter that can power your camping gears and even power your house for a few days. At the end of the day, it is a personal choice and how much you are willing to spend. I am happy with what I got and I highly recommend this to all my friends. It is a car that whenever I park people always come to me and check it out because of its special design and look ;) Best of luck!

I drove a Mach E, and I thought the one pedal driving experience was horrible. It does a weird thing near the end, and then the brakes grab. You should drive a Chevy bolt in low, If you want to experience how smooth one pedal driving can be, especially when coming to a complete stop. Silky smooth. Ford has some learning to do

Considering most people finance on 5-6-7 years, and you can remove the oil expense from their weekly budget, it makes tons of sense. I can afford a lot more car I'd I'm not spending on oil/oil changes (especially that here in Quebec where I live electricity is both very green and very cheap). My car is paid off. Just with the payment on my wife's car and the money we spend on oil weekly, we can more than afford the payments on 2 new ioniq 5s! That's not counting on the big back amounts from our current cars

It would be bad ass to see a race between all of these cars. KYLE MAKE IT HAPPEN.

He did this! And they were so similar it was weird

Yes, you can switch it to dark. That's what I do.

@@NightRidah777 you can even program it to have dark mode in the evening and white mode during the day, as you wish !

Unless you’re driving 400km a day without stopping that’s a LOT of extra weight to lug around everywhere you go. Sounds like a hybrid is a better option for you and a ton of other people…too bad there aren’t more high quality plug in hybrids (small batteries mean more cars can be built, plug in ranges suit most people most of the time - and of course you may be different)

What do you like about it better than ur model 3???

@@thomasbrown7328 primarily the quieter ride. The build quality seems better as there is much less wind noise at high speeds . And the interior is much better looking. I also prefer the information display on the driver side as well as the easier to use large center display. However I do miss the Tesla supercharger network when road tripping with the Mach E. If I was driving cross country I would prefer taking my model 3 or my Ford Explorer.

Actually mountain driving doesn’t seem to impact range as much as speed does. With regenerative braking going on I’ve averaged about 4 miles/kWh when driving 60 mph on Colorado mountain roads.

I own a Chevy Bolt and Mustang Mach-E First Edition. The one pedal driving is slightly different but it does change depending on the driving mode you choose on the Mach-E. the Bolt can be stopped faster with 1 PD when using the steering wheel mounted Regen brake. I am so used to both cars 1 PD. It really is a non issue as they both are great. anyone complaining is overly nitpicking in my opinion. No regrets in owning our Mach-E. we have had several OTA updates that have improved the car in many areas, including charging curve, brake feel, Sync 4 features and getting rid of minor bugs. I still get people going wow what a great looking car. Can’t say the Ionic 5 has a any wow factor but certainly is another great EV!

@@adamhofmann2769, I guess we agree to disagree. I’m guessing if you ask people that are detail-orientated, and are regularly exposed and USED-TO having smooth one pedal driving of Tesla or Bolt, they will most-certainly find the one pedal driving of the Mustang annoying. The shutter is unnecessary, and should be corrected

@@tjam4229 after I received one of the software updates, the braking including Regen 1 pedal driving is now perfect. Do you own a Mach-E T Jam? If so what model?

having to turn your head away from the road in the Mach E... is a bad idea. I prefer the 2 screen lay out by far and trust me, those 2 screens give all view, features and data you want (and then there is the head up display, which is great as well)

That’s snow. 🤣

It feels like a big hatchback, cause that’s what all these are.

Yeah it sits super low, but like you said, the driving experience super nice. Buttery smooth.

Did you decide?

how were the speakers in the ioniq 5 vs the mach e? (bass? volume? etc.)

The interior od the ev6 is trying to hard. It looks great from the outside though.

I have a Mach-e GT. I wish it had the features of the ionic 5. It I didn't get 13.75k off with all the tax credits + incentives I would have gone with something else.

Sportier, rather than comfortable is what I've heard

What?

From kia ev6 motortrend first drive : Kia estimates a 5.1-second 0-60-mph time, likely conservative given the 4.4-second sprint our test team recorded from an equally powerful Ioniq 5.

Ioniq 5,kia ev6 and mustang mach e are my top pick in this segment.

Nope

The 2021 does at least in Quebec it does adds a 13k rebate in Quebec. 8k provincial 5k federal

Yes, I would.

Yup, that’s my thought. Unfortunately RWD on Limited is insanely hard to find.