Should You Mist During Fruiting? 

I have been thinking about this myself.

I'm from NC also what time of year did you spawn your cakes outside? Spring summer fall? I'm on the coast.

Boone NC is practically a rainforest .. perfect conditions up there on them thar mountains

I once tried to colonize a grain jar sealed with only a micropore tape for air exchange and what happened was the growth stalled after 20% colonization stopped for a whole week sk I opened it to let the air out and let the lid covering but not sealing and 3 days later it was fully colonized.

@@dadz6364 sounds like cobweb mold lol

Happy to hear that! 😊

All the free fruiting videos on there do not even require an account to view :) almost 40 free vids on there now!

I actually just put some maz to agar yesterday, nice to hear something about them. 👍

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I recommend just misting the substrate top, avoid misting the sides as it will encourage side pins. Thank you 😊

Thank you 😊

yeah a tub-in-tub setup works great for keeping humidity, but I don't like to use it because to me it ruins one of the main benefits of using a shoebox, which is form factor. To circumvent this, I now simply apply a proper casing layer and it has been working extremely well.

If it looks like how I say it should look in this video, you will be fine: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7HbHcI511ks.html

They take 2 weeks or more to colonize the grain just wait

If it’s pooling it wouldn’t hurt to.

Best advice is to let them fruit where they are. You can add some coir over them to keep moisture. But you risk contamination big time trying that. Trichoderma actually lives in most soils.

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@MycoSage I don't understand Colorado decriminalized. Mushrooms, why can't you teach people how to do it safely? I love your content and I wanted to ask you. Have you ever tried growing mushrooms in animal feed corn? I tried last year and it's Did really well the only way I'm growing them now. It work, so good.

I tried that approach on my first channel. I thought honesty was the best approach but nope!

I mist throughout the entire fruiting process .. once sub is 100 percent colonized I mist with a fine mister all the way through to harvest... iv never had a problem with aborts

Just mist and then fan to help evaporation thus keeping your humidity up

Really only after the first flush (and a little after the second) as subsequent flushes will be much smaller, AKA less mushrooms=less water out of the sub.

@@MycoSage Thanks ! 👍

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Where did you get it? You live outside usa?

Depends on genetics and harvesting methods, I like to harvest the first flush at once, even if some mushrooms are not fully mature. This way I get a more uniform second flush.

I don’t dunk, I simulate rain through heavy misting. Also cuts back on side pins this way as you don’t get much water down the sides, I cover it in detail in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MmVxBm6SxMQ.html

Ratio is most likely not the reason why it stalled. It doesn’t make much sense. There’s a ton of other possible factors though. Yes you can.

Yes they’re aborts

I know with dunking they say 6-24 hours but your method I don't know but still water can attract bacteria. How are you growing what Tek?

@@becky2235 I submergeed the cake for 20 hours

Never. In short, forget about heat mats.

I thought automation would be cool but I'm now thinking doing it myself is best. I can see when to mist, and can see when to stop to maintain ideal conditions. I can give fae, then mist to glisten. An automated system can't look at surface conditions to be able to tell when ideal conditions are met. Surface conditions are not necessarily represented by humidity levels. My humidity is always 95% except when fae is introduced, but then jumps right back up. I still mist when surface conditions look dry(aka when there is no glistening) I actually ended up never using the humidifier. It never turned on. But if I didn't mist, and just went off the humidifier, ideal surface conditions would never have been met, so I'm thinking it wouldn't work. (Idk because I went for surface conditions). The humidifier is if humidity is constantly dropping or really low, misting gets those droplets on top. If your humidifier is maintaining droplets on top, but also allowing those droplets to evaporate/ get absorbed. Then yeah, it will. But I think in this case it's easier to do it yourself. I think it's very important to have high humidity, but also have that process of glistening beads till gone, wait a little, then make glisten again and repeat.

Basically you won't be able to tell until you do it. There is no "set it like this and forget it" imo. If there is, it'll take a lot of work to figure out for your location. Your gonna have to constantly watch it till and change it till the automation is doing what you want. But you won't be able to have sensors tell you that, it's your eyes. If you can get it to reach ideal surface conditions, then allow that to evaporation, then ideal surface conditions again. Then yes it will work. But I think it's a lot easier to do it yourself. If conditions change, you can change your habits, with automation, youd have to redial it. Which is way to much trouble. Imo.

@@harshmoor2280 thank you for the info💯

Cubes are big mushrooms so they certainly do require far more water than say pans or tamps

had cambodians and mobys in one bulk sub after thinking spawn colonization had failed it has colonised 70% in 2 days. im not sure whats going to grow but the grainspawn dried out near enough. no visible mycelium.. the bouncback is incredible since adding it to bulk.

You are not wrong.. be careful with random advice

No unless it’s really dirty for whatever reason

I recommend just heavy misting :)

@@MycoSage Thanks, I hate opening the tubs but I will to mist them

Yes and no, you are right, and I also mention this point in the video (aka that bigger pinset=more water needed). When they are still pins as shown in the video, yes they will require more water than a tub with a sparser pinset. However, once the pins start to mature more, they will maintain a better microclimate than the tub with a sparser pinset. Thus, they will be much less likely to dry out than the sparse tub.

And as long as your grow is dialed in properly, you should not need to mist at all. The reason I need to mist a lot is because shoeboxes are not neglectable in my environment, the rH is too low and I leave my window + circulator on, leading to greater evaporation. But in most cases, up till the first flush misting should not be necessary.

Tap water. If your tap water is hard, then distilled is the way to go.

If necessary.

I don't believe they're made up of different species. Just different genetics. Where liquid culture or agar wedges are actually a clone of one specific fungi or mycelium. Some people believe it makes a difference, they could be correct. I've always grown from spore syringes so idk. I know the spore syringes I made were very close to equal to the ones I bought. Everyone left you hanging for 3 months, so figured I'd try to answer. I'm no mycologyst, but have been playing with fungi for over a decade. Fun fact: when I first started I was growing gt in the basement of a party house. The kids/teens left clothes in the basement that got damp. Before long there was long skinny mushrooms growing everywhere. To look at them, you never would have guessed they were gt.

Cheers, I do private mentorship and I would like to help you thru that but I have not grown it before. But it should in theory be similar to cinctulus. If you’re interested in a private session anyways you can send me an email (in description), and I will send you the details.