@@dennisp8520 while yes she could have easily bought a cheap windows or chromobook she probably bought it to work with her iPhone or iPad. In my a opinion Apple should make a cheap chromobook style laptop. It would be perfect for people who just want to type and search the web. It could also have its own separate os. Anyway I went on a small tangent lol.
I attempted to sell my MBP16, but finally found out that I really appreciate the screen size, the speakers, and that it performs very well on daily tasks. If only it could be less hot in heavy task... so I have decided to keep it for multiples years until switching to mac that will in any ways be much much better than this m1 chip !
If your current mac is satisfying your needs, don’t get caught up in marketing hype. Run it until it is far too slow, or the OS can’t run the latest version of your applications, or it simply dies. Then is the time to change.
More power to you, nothing wrong with the 2015 models, a lot of my buddies actually still have a 2015 model because they love the all the extra ports that were on it :D
@@MrAwesomeDuncan I had a MacBook Air 2015 and tried to built it into an iMac 2008 casing and I destroyed it... seems stupid but it’s worked before with other stuff I’ve built an iMac 2009 into a 2006 casing and an iMac 2010 into a 2008s casing
Dude. Spreadsheets will work so much better on the m1. If you don't upgrade now, you'll lose all you're data, you're computer will melt down, you're city will get struck by a meteor, kaiju will take over the world, the sun will explode, the galaxy will be torn apart and the universe will suffer from an immediate heat death.
I really don't know why this 13,5 years old iMac is still working but it does😂 it runs zoom and safari without any problem but it's time to get a new one :D
Great video. I picked up a great deal on a base spec 16” MBP on Prime Day recently, so I could return it and get a specced out M1 for around about the same price which makes my decision much tougher. Now my choice is future-proofed chip and performance vs beastly screen and speakers.
I have it as well and I think this laptop will be good for at least 4-5 years. Don't forget that with this laptop we can run windows with all the apps natively and we can also run VMs.
@@wbae1340 well it's because I knew the things I mentioned before for a fact that are not going to work which is a big deal! and putting my hopes on apple to make most if their apps work flawlessly was not reasonable as it's the 1st gen, so I decided to buy the 16' and wait 4-5 years when everything will be baked pretty well and I do not regret for making this decision.
@@wbae1340 that's your opinion... In my opinion I made the right decision as I have the power without any apps or operating system limitations. If was thinking to buy 13' MBP then I would definitely wait.
I am waiting for the 16-inch Apple Silicon MacBook Pro, thank you very much. You are crazy if you have a 16-inch wanting to move to a base-model MacBook Air. If I were to switch, my mac of choice is a Mac mini. I just got a 2018 15” MBP with Vega 20 graphics. For me, yes, that’s not as good, but it’s powerful enough. If you have an Intel mac, wait a little bit and then upgrade once every mac is complete.
Most people that bought a intel macbook (i think) really needed a laptop for whatever reason, i had a discussion with my dad back in the PPC to Intel days, he bought a 2006 high-res powerbook g4, the last great stand of the powerpc laptops, 2 weeks before the introduction of the intel macbook pro, i asked him why did you do that? He told me that, buying a computer, is like getting on a train, do i take this one, which has awesome specs, but the later one may have even something better, and if you are in that mindset, you could wait forever, because the current models will eventually be replaced always with something better, he needed a laptop right than so he bought one. I think it was a great bit of philosophy from him. I have my retina from 2012 and it works just fine for me, i still get 4 hours of battery life on the original battery and it does all i could ever ask from a laptop so i will keep that thing around until its dead.
@@craighutchinson6856 ok lets say you do that. apple decide to drop support in mac os like they have done countless of times on many 1st gen products with in just a couple of years at least with the intel you can run windows or linux if need be. so if you sell the intel mac an pay $699 for a macmini than buy a macbook 16 for $1500+ if you dont sell the mac mini than you might be stuck with 2 paper weights. i get what you're saying but you have to look ahead when it comes to Apple an their 1st gen products
@@trustme2001 there's more tech illiterate people out here who believe apples an shill tubers bs than people who actually know about hardware and how the peths usually goes. the intel Macs didn't just get bad over night. I have a 2019 iMac 32gb ram i5 9600k rx 580x im not seeing any disadvantages by staying with what I have for now
The new M1 13" MacBook pro is quite nice but I am going to hold onto my 16" pro for at least another year. The performance and battery life on the 13" model seems to be outstanding but I prefer using the larger display. I also really appreciate having 4 ports rather than the two on the M1 13" Pro.
Nope, just bought a 16inch. M1 is just not gonna cut it for ML engineer/ coder and other users. The amount of hassle you have to deal with is just too much at this point. Benchmark is just not representative, stop using benchmarks and video editing tests to represent the whole demographic. If you are just a video editor, light laptop user, you can do it on any laptops, just go buy a M1 air. If you are not, buy an intel Mac. stop spamming how M1 is beating the intel chips. M1 is the future, but it is not mature enough for everyone to use. This is an excellent video to show those who are spamming these benchmarks are wrong, they are just misleading people onto the hype train. Wait for M1X or even M2, now there is absolutely no problem just stick with intel Macs.
I bought a 2020 imac 27" with the i7 10th generation 8 core chip. THe only reason I brought it was because my 2013 iMac was struggling with final cut pro, and I needed an upgrade badly (or so I thought). As it turns out, the 2020 iMac I got is only a little better than the 2013 iMac I had (and in fact seemingly a little worse with logic pro X). Needless to say I'm greatly dissapointed that I didn't wait for the iMac 27" apple silicon models to come out. What's doubly disappointing is that given how the silicon macs are running roughly the same price as their comparable intel macs, I suspect the ressale value of intel macs is going to completely take a dump. So I 'm stuck with this iMac for at least 3 years. The only bright side is that by the time I'll be willing to fork out a bunch of dough on an upgrade, the new models should be amazing.
The M1 chip is great but I love my 2018 MBP 15” with the exception of the butterfly keyboard. I don’t want a 13” but I can tell my MBP is rapidly depreciating but I’m in that “wait and see territory”
@@youngjacuzzi3676 I kept having problems with the keyboard so they gave me a new M1 pro 16”
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No thank you. I am happy with my mbp 16” with docker support. Also I can develop C# with bootcamp. Its not for real “pro” software engineers. I will wait docker and bootcamp support till 2nd or 3rd arm based chips.
I’m with you on that. Was really hoping for a spec bump for the Intel 16”. Now that there wasn’t one...as each week passes by I think the chances of such get less and less. By the spring, I think we will see what happens on that front.
Intel Mac's can still boot into full Windows 10 which is nice for some stuff, also if you just bought a Mac go return it and get the new processor because the Intel ones will be unsupported in a few years, even if Apple supports them it doesn't mean people will still be making software for it. I bought my Mac in like April so I can't return it, but I love it so I'll just keep it until Apple stops supporting it. Buttttttttt I really like that I can boot into full Windows 10 also and it's very fast, with the M1 I'd be giving that up.
If you own a 16 inch mbp dont trade it in. Even though the m1 chip outperforms the cpu, the dedicated gpu of the 16 inch mbp still outperforms the m1. Also if you're a "pro" user 16GB ram is a bare minimum requirement and many people will need 32gb or even 64gb. Also lots of people are having issues with non native applications. Wait a few yrs to iron it out.
Keeping my 13" 2020 MBP because the money I spent for 3 years of AppleCare+ is down the drain if I trade. I don't do video editing and I don't game, so I can survive without the M1 for a while. Also, go to eBay right now and search 2020 13 inch MBP. Prices are already plummeting. 😱
Very true. But anyone trying to sell intel Macs in a year are going to be disappointed. The resell market is going to disappear. New ones are already being discounted locally. I held onto my PowerPC when Apple switched to intel and I couldn’t give it away
@@gokuafrica that’s subjective, most people see the benefit of these two super powerful ports compared to the older slower albeit more varied out the box ports. Esp if u don’t mind a nice dongle or two
I bought my 2019 MacBook pro a year ago and couldn't be happier, i only use it for light web browsing and writing audio tracks, movies etc and it works flawlessly and quietly. I get the new M1's are super fast but how fast do they need to be to do basic things, I can still do anything I want on my old 2013 MacBook air. I will happily use my 2019 MacBook pro for another 5 years and then maybe trade up.
I currently have a mid-2014 15” rMBP with Dual Graphics (16GB Ram, and 512GB SSD) that I bought used in 2016, and I just got done replacing the battery two days ago as it was getting old (over 900 cycles on it). I also recently put on new thermal paste, and from time to time have used a can of compressed air to keep it relatively clean of dust. It still functions perfectly as a laptop, and even with photo editing, it still works for my uses. While I do think there’s a definite case to be made for those who have older machines, I don’t feel the need to make the jump quite yet.
I just bought my 13 inch MacBook Pro in 2019. It works perfectly fine. I’ll wait until the third generation Apple Silicon MacBook. That’ll give Apple time to iron out the kinks.
I reluctantly bought a 16” MacBook Pro undervalued when my 13” kept bricking when doing (BASIC iPhone quality) video editing. My workflow is almost all apple products (logic and final cut) with some light sheet music creation, nothing too intensive. When I saw the performance on the mini, I sold my old 16” (for a profit!) and bought the base model mini and it does everything I need. I didn’t need the graphics or anything fancy on the 16”, but felt like I had to get it just do some light editing because the 13” was so terrible at it. If you’re like me, and have a 16” simply because basic tasks in things like final cut and logic/GarageBand were too intensive on your old machine, and you don’t need the upgraded graphics, MAKE THE SWITCH! I have 0 regrets.
I don't think the top spec intel macs are going to depreciate much, due to the number of people that still need to run x86 software. (Virtualization, windows, docker, etc.) That said a lower end intel mac (say a 4gb air) is going to drop in price more significantly and fairly soon.
I got me a Macbook Pro 8GB 512GB M1 and it is hands down the best apple device I have ever owned! I unboxed it with 69% battery and used it 2 days without having to charge it once...
Yep, I had a couple trade estimates and I would take a $300-$400 hit for my five month-old base i5 MBP 13”. I would just stick with it until the redesigned MBP with second-gen M-Series chips and upgraded display will be announced.
@@knivesandfire1 Since it depreciated so fast initially, I imagine another year or so won't do much to the trade / resale prices. We can just keep getting the frankly still excellent performance of the 2020 Intel until the replacement comes out, then trade in at roughly similar losses to what we'd get if we sold now. Coming from a 2011 MBP 13, I appreciate just how good the Intel is.
That is very interesting. I have the same computer but I doubt I would be able to sell it for that much now. Just curious, did you have any issues with the Butterfly Keyboard? I have already had two fail.
I've never purchased an Apple computer. But the 5 year old Dell laptop I use for my business needs is ready to be replaced. It's slow and the keyboard sucks. So the new Mac Mini M1 looks very promising. All I need is the cheap one. Add a low price monitor, keyboard, and mouse and it still looks like something I would purchase. We will see.
@@leopoldbuttersstotch6060 Like he said in the video, gonna take a financial hit but it’s not too bad :) not like I bought a high end Mac and it’s being out performed by an M1 :)
@@leopoldbuttersstotch6060 definitely I would be very upset haha I thought about asking bestbuy to allow me to return my Mac mini but with their customer service I know it would be a hard no.
I think the problem is not to get the last hyped version of Macbook but are you still able to do what you used to do with your current Mac. If yes, continue to use your old Mac. No need to change. If not. Take the last one. Computer is computer.. It must be used for tasks... If you can do it with a 1990 Mac, don't see why you would change for a new one.
I think there are some situations where it might make sense to go from a 16" to something like an M1 MacBook Air. Some people presumably bought 16" models for the better performance, but find the size and weight to be a negative. Sure, the M1 version of the 16" will probably be amazingly fast, but not everyone needs to wring every bit of speed out of their computer. For some, it might be that the M1 MacBook Air or 13" MacBook Pro has now reached the point where it is more than fast enough, and people would rather have something smaller and lighter.
I took my 2019 Macbook Pro 13 (i5/8gb/128gb) and traded it in and got the new Air M1 today. So far I am quite happy with it. The keyboard is nicer, the display is nice, the speed is phenomenal, and I cant get over how much lighter this Air is. I wanted to dump the Intel Macbook before the prices tanked and it was worthless. Glad I did. Thanks for your insight on this stuff. Yes, the air may be an entry base model, but for what I do, it works fine. I rarely edit videos, and mostly do web searching, video watching, and do office documents.
I just sold my 2020 MacBook Air (core-i5) to SellmyMac for $695 and bought the base model MacBook Air with education pricing for $900. I think the $200 hit will be worth it. I especially hated the fan noise all the time as well as the crappy battery life. Thanks for the great content!
I have two MacBook Pro 15s, 2014 and 2015 and the plan is to wait for a MacBook Pro with AS that has a better CPU than the M1, and at least four ports and option for 32 GB of RAM or more. I then plan to sell my 2014. I still have a Late 2009 iMac 27" (great screen) so will have two Intel Macs and I also have an Intel desktop so I can run macOS in a Virtual Machine. But yeah, I don't need a large number of Macs when AS is the future. I need to get rid of my PowerMac G5 one of these days too.
Great video Luke. A point that a lot of reviewers aren’t looking at is the future resale of the 16macbook pro. The MOMENT the Apple silicon 16inch comes out, everyone who has paid up to $7000 (AUD) for an Intel MacBook will a device worth almost nothing. Selling it now for a M1 MacBook, sure it’s a slight downgrade, but I believe people should take the opportunity to get some money back on the intel MacBook before it’s too late!
My early 2013 MBP on Mojave still runs all of my apps in a mostly satisfactory way. I've still ordered the Air 16/512GB M1 because I think it'll be significantly faster than what I'm using just now.
I continue to be astonished by Apple’s resale value and demand. I just sold my Late 2012 iMac for 1/3 of the price I purchased it for within 24 hours of posting. Judging by the amount of inquiries I had, I probably undershot the price. If you have a MacBook from 2019, you’ll be fine to hold onto it.
you still are forgetting screen size and for many that is important. I still use an old 2011 Quad i7 just for the matte 17" LCD. If I could trade even my 17" for a 10X faster 13" I would not do it. I want my 17" display. I also want a laptop that I can replace the HD in. My 17" uses SATA and most of the newer laptops use some form of PCIe and can be upgraded. The New M1 are, you get what you bought and nothing more. External storage is easy with the Mini but not with a laptop. I also need to run programs that lost support in 10.15 or above. Another reason not to get the M1.
The reason the new M1 Macs look exactly the same as the Intel ones is so they can shift the Intel Macs that haven't sold yet to suckers who don't know what they're buying.
Good vid. I feels that the choice on the field of "desktop mac for pro" is more difficult... The new MP 2019 is completely out of budget, the MP 2013 is cool but you have to expand it with costly Thunderbolt devices, the MP 5.1 is expandable, cheaper (?) but it start to feels a Powermac G5 to me 😏 I have to buy a solid budget Mac for the archive and some Final cut 4K editing/export but it's not clear what to buy in the 500-1000euro area
Replaced my 13" 2015 MacBook Pro for the Silicon MacBook Air. ZERO regrets. This thing is absolutely amazing. Fanless, quiet, runs super cool even if you're editing 4K video, all day battery life and all this for $699 after trading in my old MacBook Pro. Never realized how terrible Intel processors were until I got my hands on one of these
I too had bought an i9 16" MBP five days ago just before the event lol! because my 2011 17" failed and I always need to have a beefy laptop with me... no regrets at all, gonna be using it for around 3-4 years until these apple silicon macs mature to the point where every software which I use on the daily basis will be available to them!
I heard they upgraded the Mac Mini the same day my $1099 Mac Mini arrived. I wouldn’t trade it because I’m a programmer and have my own business and it’s easier to sync with my MacBook Pro 13 inch. I’d have to replace both and the compilers I use may not work yet on M1. And I already decided on the $1099 Mac Mini based on what my needs were at the time I bought it. It may be faster (as people telling me to upgrade has told me), but I don’t see a reason to just trade in my MacBook Pro I just bought this time last year. It still holds its usefulness to me.
I understand the excitement over the new M1 MacBook computers but if there is nothing done about Bootcamp its a non-starter for me. I do too much work on Windows that does not have a Mac version to their software.
I purchased my 16” MBP (i9, 32gb) in February. M1 still can’t keep up with my beast intel MBP. I’ve also been gaming very often in bootcamp (COD warzone, pubg) running at steady 75+ FPS on an external monitor. I also have the option to purchase an eGPU in the future and keep the machine up to date. Silicon macs do not have the luxury to do this: No Bootcamp, No eGPU support.
I almost bought a 13 inch $1800 macbook pro a week before the M1 keynote, because i legit didn’t know when the apple silicon ones would come out. Thank god it was out of stock.
I'm still leaning toward the Intel Macbook. I'd rather sacrifice batt life and thermals for stability. Give the Apple Silicon 4 years and I'll be ready to shift. That's when the chip is optimized and MS hopefully caved in to getting Windows on board with ARM.
I sold my 16" to get the base cheap Air. I'm very happy. The spare money can fund an iMac upgrade in a years time - considering the price of a 5k screen I think this is a wise move. I'll have a powerful 5k iMac, + an awesome portable. I feel this is about the same price as a powerful 16" MacBook Pro.
Sold my 16'' i9 in late october betting on this M1, I had bought it new for 2850 euros and sold for 2500. Went for M1 Macbook Pro 13'' with 512/16GB for 1750 euros. Now I have same performance (I don't really care for screen dimension), waaaaaay longer battery life, completely silent machine so my wife is not annoyed in night time rendering, and a bunch of money.
I’m waiting for a BIG Macbook Air. As in 16” narrow bezel screen shoehorned into smallest possible body, 16 GB RAM, M1 (or better) chip, 1TB storage, and no touch bar. More battery would be nice, but not necessary. I’ve got the upgrade funds locked and loaded - just need Apple to bring out this config and I’m ALL OVER IT!!!
My mom actually bought a MacBook Pro 16" right before the event. However, she wasn't interested in performance at all and just wanted a big display. I couldn't convince her to buy a used 15" model or put a monitor on her desk.
Bought a Macbook Pro 13" in October. Heard about the changes and couldn't miss it. You have a 14-day window to return, I took advantage of that and back went the brand new Intel Mac. M1 Macbook Pro arrives tomorrow!
I’m trading my MacBook Pro 13” base model and upgrading to a 16” MacBook in December. This video was so helpful. As a video editor, I need the 16-inch Pro for the bigger screen and better performance. And honestly, until the apps all adapt to the Apple Silicon chip, I am perfectly fine with waiting a few years until the work out the bugs and compatibility with Adobe.
202x Intel MBP user here, I probably will get an Air for my home use, but as a backend developer, there is no way even for apple to fulfill all the missing instruction sets from x86. (If they do then it’s defeating the arm simplicity design concept. ) For someone using Nodejs as an example, it is a complied (done by nodejs team) language from C, that just means the instructions that they used in C were fully supported, for other older/prime languages this will not be the default case. Also, I think I can say for most enterprise developers here that Arm is not going to replace x86 anytime sooner for lots of reasons. Plus I don’t think Intel can’t make a similar structure to boost x86 efficiency.
The only thing stopping me from considering the current-gen m1 MacBooks is port selection on the device. Only 2 ports is seriously a low number for this kind of laptop. Maybe the next get MacBooks would have more ports and that's when I would consider upgrading
There is more to it than performance. They also have to run what ever applications you need to run. To talk about dumping your Intel Macs this soon doesn't make sense. If your system is doing what you need it to do, there is no need to replace it.
If the performance is about the same, and battery life is longer, still worth selling the less portable, hotter, noisier and shorter battery life Intel macs, like right now. You know what will happen when the M2 16" Macbook comes out? The Intel 16" macbooks you bought for $4000 will go for about $1500.
I have the i7 Mac Mini, 32gb, Vega 56 eGPU. I was about to sell it and get the M1 Mini, but the only thing holding me back is the lack of a dedicated GPU and imagining what the M1X or M2 SoC’s will be like. I want stronger graphics performance and more memory. If and when Apple releases an M1X or M2 with dedicated graphics, 12 cores and 32GB memory I’m all in then. Just have to be very patient for the next system releases.
I'm switching my 2018 15" MBP to a M1 13" MBP because I couldn't really stand how big the 15" MBP is. I work at an investment company, and I used to love the extra screen real estate so much, but it starts to get annoying with how heavy and how big this laptop is. My current workflow pretty much supports compatibility with M1 chips as most of my work are done in Google Drive. Office will also be supported on M1 chips, and some popular apps such as Superhuman is currently working on this as well. Also, Magic Keyboard is such a blessing, I would love to ditch the butterfly keyboard once and for all.
I don't give a shit about value depreciation because I never sell my laptops lol. I'm a proud owner of both an Intel 16" MPB and Apple Silicon MacBook Air. Best of both worlds.
I’ll be in the cold hard ground, before I let go of my MacBook Pro 15 inch 2014. We’ve been through too much together, still rocking Mojave too.. if i have to wait a couple of more seconds to do tasks..so be it . Love the tech you already own
I sold my 2019 MacBook Pro 128GB that I bought in feb 2020 for my M1 MacBook Pro. Benefits outweighed the costs, my machine that I bought 9 months ago was two models old and would be worth peanuts in a few more months!
