Showdown: 2022 Piaggio BV 400 vs Suzuki Burgman 400 

Wish I had the $10k! I'd get one.

So true!

Got mine in May and I am OBSESSED. It's a luxury scooter , for SURE! 😏🛵😎💅🏾

@@noisepuppet You can find an used scooters with low mileage at an affordable price.

what kind of scoot do you have?

Yes, try a Suzuki Burgman 400...you will love how comfortable it is lots of power too

Consider the Piaggio BV400 too if you don't like the Jet Ski styling of the Burgman.

Yup same here, but I bought a Piaggio BV400. My cruiser was just too much hassle in town (weight, heat, shifting gears all the time).

vespa is garbage

Why.. genuine question..?

@@seanandersonbey3768 Dead easy to ride, easily manoeuvrable, comfortable and practical. Eat up the urban commute, happily sit on the speed limit for longer journeys, bodywork does a surprisingly good job of keeping you warm, dry and clean of road grime on the way to work. It's not the same as a motorcycle but not that different, a different flavour if you will. All most of us need, if ego isn't part of your motorcycle recipe, a well looked after scoot will keep the the commuting drudge miles off your big bore toy, maintaining resale and keeping your servicing bills down. Problem is its hard to walk past the scoot once you're an owner. Just plain fun mate, give it a go.

Idem

aye bro what's the top speed of that sucker? is it freeway worthy?

@@dank9288639 it'll run 90+ mph on flat ground, ive had it to 105 down hill , but i did modify the CVT a little. cruises highway speeds without a problem.

Nah...it was just edited out...for 'marketing purposes'...obviously.

Now 20 months old and 14000+ ks on the clock and I still love this scooter. No problems encountered, 12000 k tyre change to Michelin citygrip2’s full day touring at speeds up to 140kph are easy and at 5ft 11in (180cm) and 94 kilos I have never had any problems with comfort either. True it would be nice to be able to move my feet to a different position but this scoot is more comfortable to ride long distances then any bike I have owned in my 55 years of riding. Only my 08 Yammie Tmax was maybe better

@@garyvandersluis2368 175 and 95 here. Looking at the specs, BV400 is on the heavy side. They say the seat is high, too. Is it difficult to control in really tight traffic? How likely are you to drop it?

@@enginerikli5895 It's high but I don't have any problem getting my feet on the ground . I've never come close to dropping it. As to weight I believe it's lighter than most of the other 400's

​​@@enginerikli5895Doesn't feel heavy (low center of gravity) and is almost like riding a bicycle to me. 5'11" and 30" inside leg and can get my feet down no problem, but not flat foot. I have no worries about dropping it whatsoever.

Beverly is outstanding, 350 is best size

the storage space is considerably smaller

Why? You can't buy them...

True. At least most of the graffiti and the very visible homeless population and tent cities were edited out...

Only 1200 miles? I'd hope it would have zero problems 🤷🏻

​@@mig50cchahahaha

The BV400 is just as capable as a motorcycle out of town too.

Depends on the usage The large wheels do go a long way in the Scooter vs MC gap. @@robrenwick4591

I had this problem with my BV350, it was an easy fix. The thermostat housing is made of plastic & mounted to the metal head of the engine so in time the heat warps the plastic housing causing the coolant to leak. I simply removed the thermo housing & applied some gasket sealant & never had a problem again 👍

@@Reano29s Great tip 👍. I wish I knew, I miss that scoot.

@@cribs4551 Yes they are a very versatile machine. I too sold mine & missed it so I have just put a deposit on another one, Hence why I am watching scooter videos again 🙂

BMW little storage space.. it's a Kymco engine made in China with BMW stickers for BMW price . Taiwan engine made in China by Loncin

@@karlbel4992 Not a first for BMW. The Xmax is pretty interesting 🤔

@@ONEly-uc4et That's true. I use Forza 350 white 2022 just for hobbies. I agree Xmax and Forza are the best choice for me. ADV only for passion Forza for reason. The 2 best sellers in Europ Forza and Xmax. In Thailand Forza Forza and Forza.

Those details are in their website. www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/showdown-2022-piaggio-bv400-vs-suzuki-burgman-400

So long as it’s post 2013 don’t hesitate with the BV350. They are a fast, good handling, comfortable, economical, scooter capable of Freeway and Suburban use. You won’t regret buying a BV350

@@garyvandersluis2368 Yeah, it's a 2015 with less than 2000 miles but it's two hours away. He just lowered the price to $3500. Maybe I'll go look at it this weekend. The price still seems kinda high.

@@marscruz Not by my standards, that seems a very reasonable price for a low mileage BV . But the $A is only worth $US.75cents I sold my 2016 BV 350 13000 miles for $A6000 and my BV 400 cost $A12240.Hey you can always negotiate.

@@garyvandersluis2368 I just talked to the guy. He's a truckie and on the road right now. I'll get a chance to look at it in 4-5 days when he returns home. He bought it for his wife and they moved out of the city and it's not much use on his 8 acres in the country now. A new 2022 BV400 goes for $7200 here in the states. He has a Givi trunk with LEDs and an slip on Malossi can that he says saves 7kg. Less than 2000 miles sounds good.

@@marscruz It sounds great! My 350 had an Akrapovic can on it and a Malossi variator and I thought they gave me an extra 3hp and a weight saving of about 5kilos. Just my humble opinion but I don’t think you will be disappointed if you jump. Let me know what you think after you have had a ride and if you buy it. Good luck!

Also, I lived in the LA area well over 20 years and never heard or saw anything about the old zoo. That was pretty cool. Historic.

Very much so!!!

Nuovo Beverly 400 … ottimo compromesso ed unica con nuovo motore interamente riprogettato

@@liberals_destroy_everythin2497 lol fuuuck

Poverty porn is a low class activity.

Actually, it’s quite fun! I’ve been doing it since 1989.

I thought the same thing. With the help of RU-vid video (there’s several of them) I replaced my own. I’m not a mechanic. All for the price of a belt. I did buy a torque wrench. But I use that all t he time now.

You're probably thinking of the Burgman 650. The 400 is no different than any other scooter. On the 650 the entire bike and engine need to be torn down.

A 400 engine will be a lot less stressed than a 250 at highway speeds, so...

Had motorcycles for many years, but these bigger scooters are more practical and more fun as far as I'm concerned. 'Wish id discovered them sooner...

theres too much left to be desired with the xmax. i have the 2023 and its lacking in just about every department.

Try one. You will b surprised.

I rode a burgman 400 yesterday for the first time and love it. Now looking at getting one to tour up to Scotland on.

@@neilwiddison6529 You r going to love it.

Depends on what you mean by "value." Way too often riders confuse horsepower/torque/speed as value, where the only thing that matters is how fast you can go or how strong the engine is. This just isn't the value of a scooter. Can you go pick up some food in your motorcycle? There's basically no storage on most bikes, but generous storage is standard on a scooter, and usually enough to fit all your gear. How much maintenance do you need to do on your bike? Scooters frequently only need oil changes and tires, and those tires last a lot longer than sports bikes and never requires chain cleaning. Changing the belt is really easy and affordable. Does your bike come with a center stand? Can you attach a top box to it? Do you have to worry about gear shifting or can you just concentrate on the ride? Scooters value comes from how out-of-the-box useful and easy to care for they are, not requiring extra work to make them that perfect commuting tool and great second vehicle. The word "practical" is a dirty word in American powersports today, but it was why I started.

​@@ezekieloruvenAll very true and twist n' go scooters are just much more fun to ride.

Actually, you're wrong. The Hurd report noted that lane splitting is actually safer as you have much less chance of being rear ended (especially important in these days of rampant cell phone use by drivers). States other than California are now allowing lane splitting and filtering, but no-one forces you to do it. I commuted on California's freeways for many years and was only side-swiped two or three times (once or twice deliberately), but never came off the bike and no damage done to the bike. On balance, I think lane splitting is a good thing, but car drivers must be educated to accept it.

I park mine inside the hotel.room on bottom floor

But you'll be unpleasantly surprised when you take it in for routine maintenance 😅