"SHUT UP KEIRA" - Keira Knightley on Ellen RANT😡 

you're pretty badass. good good.

U make good vid love ur humor

If anything men could complain that they are reduced to nothing but objects in these stories, things to obtain, fringe benefits. If you wanted to put a negative gender spin on it. Which would also be missing the point.

> profit

Red Pill Religion Lounge Now that I think about it, is there a proper guys films in Disney? And if there are I can’t even point one. While for Women I can mention about 10 if not more without researching.

"It's not right for [little girls] to [watch certain Disney movies]. Soon they start getting ideas and thinking..."

Bet she would ban Rapunzel as well

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Excellent inference, SYK! I would not doubt it!

She'll find a way out on her own just like she wants.

THATS WHAT I THOUGHT AHAHAH

Lonesome Doot those aren’t the things the feminists are objecting to.

hood lam agreed. but the things they object to aren’t as stupid as what the original comment suggested, and i chose to clear the record. nobody is objecting to courage or kindness. that would be awfully silly, i’m sure we can all agree.

Dark Star except they ARE against these displays? I get it not wanting the "marriage is the best thing ever" to be the primary message of a movie or book or show or whatever, but the problem here is that these feminists ignore everything else that makes a movie good, and only focus on the parts they don't like or disagree with, claiming that they are 'problematic' and 'terrible'. Cinderella, The Little Mermaid, Tangled, Aladdin, Mulan, Beauty and the Beast, Pocahontas- all these movies aren't simply about how marriage is perfect. They are about the importance of strong will, kindness, acceptance for others, courage, selflessness, improving yourself and become a better person, not losing sights of the important things in your life, etc. Marriage is simply the reward for all these things, and whether you agree or not that marriage should be the ultimate reward is really up to you. You don't agree with it, I don't agree with it either actually. But what's important is this is what marriage is in these movies; rewards. Not motivation, not want, but the reward for all the bad things the characters have been through. So the problem here is not that feminists believe that marriage and finding love true shouldn't be the ultimate reward, the problem is that these feminists choose to actively ignore all the things that lead to said marriage of the characters, and consequently ignore all the self-improvement and heroic acts these characters do for themselves and for the people they love, which are arguably the two main messages of those Disney films. Improve yourself, be a good person and always cherish your loved ones IMO are almost always present in Disney movies. So when a feminist ignores ALL the hardships the character went through just because they disagree with the end result and straight out gets the movie's plot all wrong, of course we won't take them seriously. They are ignoring the messages of the movie and greatly reduces it to the portion they don't like, which isn't even significant to the movie at all.

Not to mention.... her voice is currency for a transaction.... “you can’t get something for nothing” the witch says....

and at first she didn't even really wanted to give it.And we should not forget that for "a weak woman" she SAVED him ! And in the book she loves him so much that instead of killing him to survive, like her sisters wanted,she KILLS HERSELF with the knife they gave her JUST so HE will stay alive and happy with his fiançée (another,nice,girl who knew him longer than Ariel).

Danyne S but seeing the man is part of what motivated her so much, right? i remember the villain talking about how surface men don’t like a girl who talks a lot. she was clearly thinking about him when she made that decision right? i haven’t seen the movie in a long time.

I just bash her for not reading the flipping contract before she signed it. XD

She just wanted to chill on a beach frfr, Eric is just a bonus

Solomon Dow not really, they’re complaining about certain princesses. That’s kinda clear.

Solomon Dow Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

Lah Deedah "acting"

Hypocrisy is an unspoken prerequisite for SJWs and Fauxminist Feminazis.

"Solomon Dow not really, they’re complaining about certain princesses. That’s kinda clear." Hahahahaha, I am sure Knightley and Bell appreciate your cherry-picked selective rationalization. It falls right in line with how "only certain" Islamists/Muslims are dangerous, so to avoid falsely accusing and appearing "racist", we should ignore them ALL including the ones that really are a danger, and OPEN THEM BORDERS! I don't give a fuck if it's "certain princesses" - Knightley and Bell are hypocrites. Especially since their "reasons" for banning/boycotting those "certain" Disney films are not even valid. They don't even know what the films REALLY promote or convey - they just take one aspect of the entire movie and pervert it into some big bad thing that drives their own propagandist agenda.

Love this comment, perfectly summed up my thoughts on this matter

@@D0MiN0ChAn Agreed. I'm a cop and I deal with domestic abuse victims all the time and the hardest part of the job is seeing people, both men and women, be stuck in horrifically abusive relationships but not be able to break free because they feel there's no support available. Bullshit like this only makes abuse victims feel like it's their own fault they are in that position and don't deserve anyone's help and that even if they did ask for it, no one would listen.

Hey Ho Yes!! THANK YOU!

I grew up in one and nothing gave me more comfort than Cinderella and Rapunzel growing up. Sometimes dreams are all you have, not boldness, bravery and strenght, just hope.. (though these characters are all of that anyway). Not everyone has the privilege to be able to base themselves in Elizabeth Swans of the world :\

@@ceecee867 This is exactly why I hate people like Knightley and Watson. They were born into money and privilege and have lead lives of fame and stardom. They have never felt any form of societal oppression and have the audacity to sit there and lectures others about what it means to suffer and face adversity. Absolute disgusting self-important brats.

I was too busy being mesmerized by the songs and animation. But that's just me.

I don’t remember wanted to be a fish after watching findet nemo

For me it was 10% 6-year-old power fantasy about being the prettiest, nicest, most special girl in the land, 10% wanting the animal friends, and 80% ogling the pretty dresses

I always thought the exact opposite of what most feminists think - that to get a 'prince' I have to grow up and improve myself to be best I can be. But hey, earning things for yourself? Why do that when you can scream SEXISM over and over?

Steve is Dead i’m sorry what?

I don't remember Ariel ramming the busted up boat into the sea witch, killing her, while Eric played there helpless, saying her name 4 times watching her fight the sea witch.

@@trumpydog9441 She saves him from the first shipwreck. And she literally couldn't do anything to help during the last battle. She had been turned back into a mermaid by that point.

@@KirstenMarie_MS3 her motivations for rescuing Eric were 100% selfish and had nothing to do with her feelings towards him. She was obsessed with having legs. Notice she was always cheering to discover new things but when it came to Eric she was always on the fence. In fact she never really showed any true emotion until Eric announced his engagement to the sea witch. Her motivation went way up after that, knowing she now had competition for her new life. Eric's motivations had been clear. He wanted to find her. And her motivations were clear. She wanted legs. While both of them performed heroic actions, motivation and reason have to play a part.

@@trumpydog9441 How do you come by the idea that her motivations were completely selfish? Unless you figure that she thought he could somehow give her legs. Although she would most likely know that such a thing would be impossible for him, as nothing more than a human. But, since this is a movie we can never know for sure what her true motivations were. But, in the original Hans-Christian Anderson tale she is already said to be in love with him. (I agree that this "love at first sight" cliche is a problematic element.) She also completely selfless. In the end she has an ultimatum, kill the prince or turn into sea foam. She sacrifices her own life because of her love for him. She clearly shows emotion toward him from the beginning. She is visibly enamored by and infatuated with him when she first sees him, going so far as to point him out to Scuttle. She shows fear when he is drowning. When he is helping her down the beach, she looks back at Scuttle and gives him an enormous smile (I think) because she is so happy to be with him. She is incredibly excited to go on the carriage ride with him and thrilled when he finally learns her name. And, if I remember correctly (which I may not since it's been something like 15-20 years since I last saw the film,) there is a scene where she stares longingly at him from her window on the first night while he is outside playing the flute. Although, in the grand scheme of things, there is no wrong way to interpret the movie. Everyone is going to interpret it differently. I'm just curious as to how you've come to your conclusions.

Multiple times for that matter. Once from the shipwreck and got him out of that hypnotic spell from Ursula (or, Veronica as she named herself). 😂

Yes. Especially when Disney takes a dark story and puts a positive spin & ending to it. Fairytales are dark and usually gruesome stories.

@@AriThecraftydragon right! Disney made this HAPPIER na stall managa Ed to find flaws in THEIR version???

The modern feminist idea of “strong and empowered” female characters are Mary Sue’s who are immune to failure and are naturally gifted at everything without having to work or struggle for it because...plot. 🙄

Mind's Eye for me it’s not about empowerment, it’s about the illusion that romance and marriage is some kind of ultimate goal that makes life awesome. even though the females characters don’t necessarily start out trying to find it, they all do. it’s about selling the idea of marriage as the best thing that can happen to a girl. it’s not even that bad a message, my problem is that they’re all like that. love is nice but it doesn’t = happiness

@@darkstar4494 might be misreading your comment but what's wrong with romance and getting married . I get that's there's a lot of Disney movie with people falling in love but what wrong with characters wanting to find love. I don't want to get married or be in a relationship, but I love watching romance and reading about it in books.

and people are too stupid to listen to the details of the songs-especially the very obvious even if super well written and sung "part of that/your world" I mean if Eric was average joe and after what went on prior she would've did the same thing and even if she wasn't in love with him a deal would've been made. Cinderella like actually being with the prince and thus becoming royalty in the end is like a reward for the absolute pile of misery and hell she was put through. Meanwhile today everyone's gotta have a top 40 hit song on repeated ad nauseum that even if sung well lacks substance entirely without the right visuals (especially Moana's which has zero impressive visuals to back her up unlike frozen 1-2 at least giving us that much). Heck even "bare necessities" of jungle book makes a lot of things possibly very clear, to the point where while i hate disney's live-action remake chaos going on, that remake had a better ending in my opinion.

You mean Mackenzie Foy ?

@@kpencil859 OMG I love her!

Imagine that, a modern day young lady like the classics and understands the message behind it. KK will probably avoid MF as much as possible.

Robert you’re right, she isn’t trying to find romance. but the romance and marriage prospect are still rewards for her actions regardless. they are shown as awesome things that allow you to live happily ever after. there’s no such thing as happily ever after.

@@darkstar4494 there's no such thing as happily ever after? I mean geez man point me to the talking rats then. or the hot redheaded mermaids. or bossy dragon women. or fairies that grant your desires. dadgum fake happiness ruining my immersive animated films. the only realistic story is berserk where everyone dies and everything sucks then you die and suffer in death eternally as the rotting cherry on top. *linkin park blares in background*

@@undyingrevenant2734 no, there’s no such thing as happily ever after. That doesn’t mean we should all be miserable nihilists. The good or bad isn’t the point. The point is that life doesn’t freeze in place, it’s always growing and changing. There is no finish line for relationships or anything else in life.

@@darkstar4494 Simple is best in children's stories. There is nothing wrong with such stories ending in "happily ever after". There's also nothing wrong with Cinderella geting "rewards for her actions" (actually, that's a good thing in stories with moral lessons).This modern dumblogic that we have to SHOW all of the "grey areas" to kids or they'll "get the wrong idea" holds no water. This is a completely fake "concern" to have.

@@vlo4829 we disagree here, but there is nuance. I suspect what you mean to say is that the concern I expressed isn’t needed to achieve my goal, but you don’t really know my goal anyway. Regardless we don’t have 100 years of experience trying it my way to be sure. However, consider the most recent deal toro Pinocchio movie, in which everyone eventually dies. It’s still simple and kids understand it. So that’s what I prefer to expose my kids to. I would point to societies full of people who believe there is a happily ever after when they die. Where did they get that idea? It’s more complex than just childrens stories. this relates to religion also. And I believe this way of thinking leads to lots of social problems. anyway I appreciate the point you tried to make, which is that it’s nothing to worry about. If you want to maintain the status quo, I would agree.

They're jealous they didn't have a strong work ethic like Cinderella

Yeah there’s a video talking about how everyone victim-blames her and I can’t remember what it’s called or who made it but it had a lot of good points

@@anniej844 I think it is called Cinderella: Stop Blaming the Victim by Screen Prism i believe

Blondi Bombshell yeah that’s the one! Thank you!

And between being physically and mentally strong, being mentally strong is better: it will really help you in life and in situation where you can't beat your abuser.Plus she didn't had a choice;she was probably abused since her childhood and if she left them then she would had a really hard time to survive.She even COMPLAINED sometimes.

And they still are, the only problem is that they also had strong and noble male characters. Feminists can't stand that. Men HAVE to be either monsters or useless, and females cannot learn to be strong and wise through their experiences, they need to be inherently perfect. There is no room for emotional growth and learning from mistakes in the feminist agenda, either women are shown as perfect and virtuous or it's an oppressive chauvinistic piece of propaganda.

It’s funny to me once she gets legs.... Ariel barely pays attention to Eric.... not to mention she already wanted to be on land.... bitches who whine about her I am pretty sure have never been held by a hot dude....

So true, I'd have to honestly say ESPECIALLY "Little Mermaid." It didn't even MATTER if you were male or female, or whatever. She wanted to be part of that world, and she would've did it eric or no eric at some point. She views him as an "average joe" like "your a good guy" and ok yeah she has a crush but the "kiss of true love" is literally just movie magic and luck. The actual actions of Ariel are a result of feeling unloved a little, "grass is greener on the other side" and a nice touch of wanting more and/or a different life. Ursula just took advantage of the timing. Unlike say Moana who while her quest is noble her top 40 hit tells us nothing we didn't already get from the storytelling prior. Also, for female empowerment, it's like 1/3 about Maui's redemption arc and makes her people look lazy/stupid and also has magical water plot armor mary sue nonsense.

@@TheAmateurEditor I mean the true definition of the term is equal rights for men and women. Men still have some issues as well (ex. "Be a man" not being able to show feminine attributes and intrests.) It's just some people have twisted the concept into something else. And the loudest people are always the example. Positive or negative.

@@TheAmateurEditor That's why they are remaking all their classic movies.

Amen

Cinderella never once waited for a man to save her. She snuck out, met a guy at a party she crashed literally under her stepmother's nose, ran out on the guy without giving him any contact info, not even her first name, and figured she'd never see him again. She got saved a little by male mice, but she wasn't expecting that.

Alia- and to top it off, she didn’t know she was dancing with the prince. She didn’t find out til the next day and it floored her.

Phil Lewis she’s lion-kin and Kiera is trying to change who she is.

Let's hope she doesn't read it because she might not get trolling...

Yes! A group of my classmates once did a project on sexist stereotypes in Disney movies, and they said this about Cinderella. Their main comment for almost each film was "girl waits for a man or needs one to save the day or get what she wants, movie has sexist undertones". It was honestly painful to listen to, especially since they got some plot elements wrong or didn't think things through. For example, they had an issue with the fact that Rapunzel did mostly traditionally feminine things while she was in her tower... What else was she supposed to do? Axe target practice? Spitting into a vase? Wood cutting? Her living space and home situation didn't allow for more than tranquil activities that wouldn't catch any outsiders' attention. Plus, Rapunzel might have done feminine activities, but she was damned good at them. Candle making, sewing, baking, reading about certain disciplines, they were all life skills that she had mastered over the years. I'd bet she could have made a living with them. But no, they're bad because they're stereotypically women's work. And God forbid she needed an extra push in the form of a man to disobey her manipulative mother and make her dream come true.

And it's not even like the princes where interestings ! Also no girls that i knew where waiting for their prince to come and save them after watching thoses movies,nor do they tought the girls were "weaks" and needed to be physically strong and "need no man".

I think they find the love and marriage endings to be iffy. There is no such thing as happily ever after but apart from that, if the Prince wasn't there, Cinderella was about a woman who persevered

What Keira Knightley says before cameras and what Keira Knightley actually does in real life do not have to be the same, you know? She's probably long forgotten about this interview.

@@PasserMontanus then she lacks integrity… that’s not complimentary for her character

Alia haha yes... and the reward for the young woman is romance and marriage and happily ever after, regardless of whether that was her initial goal or not. it’s still shown as the ultimate reward and transformation of your life. my issue is that there’s no such thing as happily ever after. being in love or married doesn’t make life any better

Yep,bottom line,leftists and feminists are just really really super terrible despicable people.

she's much harder working than Tiana if we consider Tiana wasn't abused all her life, but rather encouraged to be strong by most that cared about her (if my memory doesn't fail me).

SageofTool it’s not that cinderella is waiting for the man as much as the fact that the man comes along as a solution to her problems. yes she was the catalyst for her own story whic is great. i’m not a feminist. i’m pointing out that the romance and marriage and happily ever after are still portrayed as her ticket to emancipation. what would have happened if the prince hadn’t taken a liking to her? also, there’s no such thing as happily ever after. love and marriage don’t make you any happier. but you’d never know that from watching old disney movies.

I'm proud of the director, too. It's a rare feminist who can admit to being stupider than a child.

Glad that little girl talked some sense into her dumbass mom lol

@J Do same

I second that notion! Ariel gets way too much hate!

Me too She’s my favorite My daughter will be named after her

You mean sexist? Other than that you’re absolutely right, feminists are very hypocritical

Colette's husband took credit for her novels, and he cheated on her first so she figured 'oh, ok, you wanna have sex with other women? I will too, then". Women couldn't easily divorce their husbands back then so she was basically stuck in a marriage she didn't want to be in. And are you honestly comparing ADULT movies to children's movies? No one is showing their child any of these adult movies, she was talking about CHILDREN'S movies and the messages she believes are wrong in them.

Sakura Kasugano I am well aware of Collette’s life. I admitted to leaving out context and simplifying things. And Keira is doing the same thing. I am also well aware that there is a big difference between kids movies and adult movies. Again, simplifying and leaving out context. I know that I did that. Like Keira.

In the Duchess her character was also trapped in a loveless marriage, RAPED and abused. That's a pretty big thing to 'leave out' to get your point across for her not agree with the message of a DISNEY movie.

Nah

Sakura, you missed her entire point.

JumbleJammyJokes YES

Let Your daughter be a furry!

KK: No

Yours is too :)

Well to be fair to Frozen, the "love at first sight" song was put in a bad light, as it makes the larger point to not give everything to someone you barely know.

I don't think there's a single child that isn't like 'NO' when Ariel gives her voice up. It's clearly not meant to look like something she should be doing, regardless of the outcomes. Is indeed weird she is ok with Frozen when is pretty much the same thing on this aspect. They commit mistakes and do things they absolutely shouldn't do, but it all turns out well in the end (though I would argue Ariel is less 'harmful' since her mistake is made to be much more shocking and is, obviously, totally unrealistic lol).

Elvick not the sole reason, but he’s clearly the catalyst. if it weren’t for him, why hadn’t she given up her voice already at that point in the movie?

Dark Star because she wasn't desperate? You didn't watch the movie did you? At the beginning of the movie Ariel didn't sing with her sisters and instead went out with to a wreck to collect new trinkets from the human world. When she was attacked by the shark her bag and what did she do? Instead of running away to safety she DOVE to get the bag away from the shark's teeth even though she could've been easily been bitten and even killed by the shark. She chose her passion over her own life. In case you didn't notice she loved the human world so, so much she was willing to put her life in danger just to save some items that resemble the human world (which is NOT a good thing to do, but that's not the main point here). When she saved Eric from drowning, her immediate thought wasn't to make a deal with the devil (Ursula) to see him, if anything she was content with the statue she got of him. But then her father found her lair and instead of being a responsible father and talking to her about her unhealthy obsession he DESTROYS everything in the lair, the trinkets, the jewellery, the music boxes, the statues- everything. Everything that resembled the world she oh so loved so much and spent SO much time collecting (and probably even endangered her life to get) were gone in mere minutes or even less. How can you not realise that she was devastated at that and not because she wanted to solely see Eric? She was broken, she was hurt, she was angered, and her father didn't try to do anything to comfort her. She was in a vulnerable state of mind that Ursula took advantage of. She told Ariel she could find a way to escape her father and see and interact with the human world, and in Ariel's anger and despair, she agreed to give up her voice. So no, while Eric was a catalyst for the trade, he wasn't the sole reason.

@@Zarastro54 yeah, Elsa called that out to Anna in the movie. I remember

JustinB6699 come on that’s not fair, she’s talking about later when her child is old enough to make informed decisions. at age 3, the parent has to make judgment calls on a hundred things every day. this is ok, this isn’t ok. children depend on their parents judgment during this period.

dO IT! ill watch it!

i'd definitely watch that!

yess! cinderella saved herself. love the part where she said "Bruno. Yes Bruno. Quick, get Bruno, get Bruno!"

Reuben Kim Makes you wonder what would happen if the kid grows up to be a stay-at-home-mom.

Good band name. The Their Empire.

Joel Klimkowski If I may respectfully about Incredibles II; consider this: (warning: it's a bit long!) I thought the movie tied up Mr. Incredible's conflict with heroism and glory/duty-before-others, and thus forced him to come clean to his family in a respectful and introspective manner. He wasn't perfect, but he chose to do better for the kids and his wife, but chiefly, this was HIS decision. He gained agency. Sure, it was subtle, but I liked that it was a key conflict. Mrs. Incredible proved that she was a mom first. She wasn't swayed by the villain's ploy to seperate her from her family, but she also got excited and sidetracked; still, she was always a mom first. I REALLY liked the little details, like the initial argument at the dinner table about what's right versus fair. I liked how Mr. Incredible felt like he'd gotten sidelined AGAIN, and he sorta was, due to all the destruction he caused in his hero days. Frozone and Mrs. Incredible were deemed "presentable" with no regard for what kind of crime they were fighting; it seems there is always spin when it comes to bringing back superheroes. I wish Evelyn could have functioned more as a reflection of the world from the first Incredibles: "We don't need superheroes, we need COPS. You can't abandon reality for your dreams about self-sacrifice--that's how my dad died." Something like that. She definitely needed one more rewrite. Her beother could have served as an excellent reminder of compromise: he is all about giving people hope, she is stuck in the gritty past, and they are BOTH understandable. The ending was kinda eh as well, but that's my biggest complaint. I love both movies. tl;dr - I liked that Incredibles II was about the family coming together to help each other AND Mr. Incredible finally came to terms with his own flaws. It could have been better, but as it is, I don't think it's on the same underwhelming level as something like Finding Dory. But that's just me!

Holy heck, this was awesome to read, took the words right out of my keyboard!

Yeah, I am disappointed, too. Her and Julianne Moore. I love them but not their politics

"how dare you help me open doors! are you trying to enslave me into the patriarchy just because I broke all of my arms?!"

No, I don't think so. Those women pretend to be feminist, but they even don't know what feminism is. They are ignorant and simply hates men. Basically, the definition of feminism is "sexual equality". But those people don't want this, they just pretend to be more important than men. I'm so disappointed. :/ Sorry for my english. 🙇

@Ariés Woodion Sorry! But you mean egalitarianism. Feminism has become nothing more but an anti-male and white bigotry.

They have people holding signs on those shows that say "clap" and "laugh" not even kidding.

@@arieswoodion1251 modern feminism is a joke. im a woman and wouldn't call myself one. not with todays wave of it!

this!!!!!!!!!!!! I remember thinking EXACTLY this as a child. How cool and different it was that it was a girl running after her love interest and fighting with all she had for it. Only to grow up and see people were shitting on that as well. Oddly enough they're doing what they say they hate the most: trying to control and judge women. So is not ok for a girl to fight for love, as is not reasonable and safe. Nor is ok for a girl to be passive and helped, because that's not 'strong'. Hell, now what.. Usually the role-models they approve are the ones that have the privilege of being brave and bold (a.k.a weren't abused all their lives, but rather encouraged to be outspoken) to achieve what they want that doesn't include another person. So girls have to be exactly what they want us to be in the name of their beliefs and ideologies, wich is what they truly care about, not individuals. God forbid they have children with different thoughts that can ruin the image they want to portrait..

Fuck, we bounty king now

Thank you for this. Most people don’t understand that and it’s a shame.

Hold on to those memories. *misty eyed* :)

no sob stories ,,,,just posts

Lockheed - acid doesn’t really do that, but thats funny

it is the balliest of the disney animated films. it was aLMOST perfect too, if they stuck with the "gargoyles are all in quasimodos head" route they seemed to have been going. but nope they didnt' stick the landing there. the rest, they got the feels down just right so its almost pefect to me. and "hells fire" made me giggle with glee as a teenager. disney had balls!