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Siege MUST Do This To Survive 

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Siege needs a ton of work before it can be considered a truly modern game, that doesn't mean it's not impossible to get there. With a focus on new infrastructure from the bottom up, as well as modular design that can be applicable to a wide range of gameplay experiences, Siege can be a force to be reckoned with again, and it should be. Jocko yap • You're Not Getting Ahead.
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@worthlesschip873
@worthlesschip873 Месяц назад
After all these years you've still got the wit and intelligence to keep me coming back to your videos. Keep it real.
@GGE
@GGE Месяц назад
Console is a bit insulated from the problem. Without console we'd be totally screwed.
@SuperColtsrock11
@SuperColtsrock11 Месяц назад
@@GGEconsole is bad enough as is with MnK but yeah pc has it wayyyy worse.
@ShyNudist
@ShyNudist Месяц назад
​@@GGEYou're welcome, citizen.
@TerrorBeast96
@TerrorBeast96 Месяц назад
@GGE i play on console and it is pretty bad with MnK and Cronus. If you consider this "insulated" from the problem i cannot even fathom how brutal it is on PC
@Aalvye
@Aalvye Месяц назад
I think the solution is BattleEye needs to become BattleEyes
@lolcool8705
@lolcool8705 Месяц назад
true
@GGE
@GGE Месяц назад
Good point. We only have ONE BattleEye. Without depth perception detecting cheaters can be very difficult.
@h-aandle
@h-aandle Месяц назад
we need to become the battleyes
@Aalvye
@Aalvye Месяц назад
These cyclop eye, single vision come initiatives need to open their eye
@deathserpent9747
@deathserpent9747 Месяц назад
​@@GGEno no, we need battle *EARS* . with just the eyes we cant hear the cheaters coming
@NoNo-qt4ov
@NoNo-qt4ov Месяц назад
If this doesnt end in a KOTOR rant ill be bummed
@GGE
@GGE Месяц назад
There's a channel out there with a pretty good KOTOR video forget its name...
@NoNo-qt4ov
@NoNo-qt4ov Месяц назад
@GGE Yeah, maybe they changed their channel name recently or something... but idk. I've heard they're pretty cool, though, so lmk if you remember 😂
@Zed_Said
@Zed_Said Месяц назад
@@GGE if it's the Kreia one, the dude tries to defend loli in another video
@psychoexplosion9209
@psychoexplosion9209 Месяц назад
@@Zed_Saidwho?
@wlwww16
@wlwww16 Месяц назад
Don’t save her, she don’t wanna be saved
@GGE
@GGE Месяц назад
Fire
@Halfcertified
@Halfcertified Месяц назад
J cole?
@wlwww16
@wlwww16 Месяц назад
@@Halfcertified No
@discountdesiigner8455
@discountdesiigner8455 Месяц назад
@@wlwww16project pat
@pong_it7459
@pong_it7459 Месяц назад
It baffles me how little Ubisoft cares about the only game keeping their lights on at this point. I mean, Assassin’s Creed, Watch Dogs, Far Cry or even Just Dance have been utterly ruined😭😭
@m.a.k.dynasty4504
@m.a.k.dynasty4504 Месяц назад
Assassin's Creed is doing just fine for your information. New Far Cry projects are in development. I have no opinion on Just Dance, but the only franchise dead in the dumps on that list is Watch_Dogs, and rightfully so if I'm being honest.
@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062
@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 Месяц назад
Whats with XDefiant, The Crew 2?
@Angrynood
@Angrynood Месяц назад
​@@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 Crew Motorfest is just Crew 2 but Forza Horizon unfortunately. It looks great but... yeah. Not too innovative.
@snowcrow8784
@snowcrow8784 Месяц назад
@@m.a.k.dynasty4504how is it rightfully so? Ubisoft shit themselves on that one.
@mcneally7291
@mcneally7291 Месяц назад
@@Angrynoodit’s a car game what do you want
@xiNchainsx
@xiNchainsx Месяц назад
I'm so glad that i got to experience the old R6
@GGE
@GGE Месяц назад
Me too.
@joshwimbley698
@joshwimbley698 Месяц назад
Agreed haven't touched seige sense that one update when it allowed attacking operators to punch Mira mirrors and to punch mistro cams, I thought that particular nerf was harsh and then eventually realized there just gonna nerf everyone because it's like the hydras head, you cut one day another will rise up.
@jaysonclark2203
@jaysonclark2203 Месяц назад
Years 1-3/4 was peak Siege. Old siege was such a unique experience
@detcader_
@detcader_ Месяц назад
@@joshwimbley698literally it’s fucking nerf-whack-a-mole
@suorguy1183
@suorguy1183 Месяц назад
I remember how fun and goofy old siege was. Now its too polished in a weird way and the cheaters have gotten out of control
@Yee-eq1lv
@Yee-eq1lv Месяц назад
Even console sucks now. It feels like 75% of the players I encounter are ximing and apparently there is some kind of cheat plug in that just eliminates recoil.
@GGE
@GGE Месяц назад
Love games. Hate gamers.
@lichh4054
@lichh4054 Месяц назад
It's a skill issue brother. Are there ximmers? Yes, but they are far and few between these days. Most people don't want to deal with mouse trap. Also recoil really isn't hard, just practice pulling down.
@jamesjackson7324
@jamesjackson7324 Месяц назад
Yes, console is just fine. Xim and/or cronus players are 100% beatable and not compatible to wallhacks and aimbot. Console is actually popping off and carrying the siege brand right now.
@tommythamert5735
@tommythamert5735 Месяц назад
Ximming isn't too bad right now. Ranked 2.0 and toxicity are easily the biggest problems on console.
@Ssian_
@Ssian_ Месяц назад
​@@lichh4054 dude There is no way a account with 10hr playtime with zero recoil on the f2 And are on diamond There is a lot of cheaters on console
@doogong
@doogong Месяц назад
I'd like to see more scenario-type PvE missions, like trying to attack a site that's got pre-placed defenders and gadgets
@polinttalu7102
@polinttalu7102 Месяц назад
Yeshh, a coop scenario like Outbreak would be dope
@GGE
@GGE Месяц назад
Yes please, with some dialogue between the ops that would be fire.
@moparguy1995
@moparguy1995 Месяц назад
I’d love to hear Ella and Zofia telling one another to F off in a match lmao
@takingday
@takingday Месяц назад
maybe playing out different scenarios not to dissimilar from when you had to play article 5 but better AI and more scenarios not to dissimilar from the old R6 games but with more character interaction/story I can imagine Securing a file and fight off enemies while waiting for reinforcements/evac , protecting(maybe interrogating ) a prisoner/informant and being able to move them to different areas to protect them maybe the AI have to refined where you are , maybe scenario where you have to find and kill a target Etc. their is allot that could be done and it would be a decent bridge of content for people who enjoyed the old R6 games and those the enjoy the siege enjoy together.
@Angrynood
@Angrynood Месяц назад
​@@takingday I miss the old situations. The biggest thing for me was that I learned the map layouts through them. I think they could something like that again
@ryanretrogamer7
@ryanretrogamer7 Месяц назад
I remember back when casual was a game mode where we had time to mess around and be stupid. But now the rounds are so short that rushing is the only thing that you can do. I mean, we used to go from spawn all the way to site by crawling! Today, you can’t even make it to the doors to enter the inside of the map without time running out!
@onkarpalav5257
@onkarpalav5257 Месяц назад
The biggest problem with siege cheaters is that among all the games that have cheats siege might be the easiest to hide the fact that you are cheating (provided that you have a good fundamental understanding of the game). I have played last season almost daily and thought wow i didn't get as many cheater but then towards the end i started getting the RP reset popup because there were cheaters in my prev games. Also I'm a plat player and what you said about not knowing that you died because you made a mistake or because the other guy is cheating is such a big hindrance to improving at this game.
@Underqualified_Gunman
@Underqualified_Gunman Месяц назад
You can feel though when someone is cheating since they play in ways that screws up the intel asymetry. Way easier to see in replay.
@R41NB0
@R41NB0 Месяц назад
So basically we need them to make a new game
@DerekBennett-pk4nu
@DerekBennett-pk4nu Месяц назад
And I’m not sure that making a whole new game will even solve the problem
@R41NB0
@R41NB0 Месяц назад
@@DerekBennett-pk4nu If they use a more modern engine it might, part of the problem is that the engine siege used is old as hell. But yeah, it wouldn't really do too much unless there was a solid anti cheat. But even then, the really good ones are extremely invasive which raises privacy concerns
@alexkim3794
@alexkim3794 Месяц назад
Yeah basically overwatch 2.0 without boing what overwatch did
@R41NB0
@R41NB0 Месяц назад
@@alexkim3794 why Blizzard thought they were cooking with that was beyond me
@irishijo1
@irishijo1 Месяц назад
I think if Ubisoft took the lessons they learned from the most recent Prince of Persia game, and translated that to some of their other titles like Rainbow Six, they could start to pull back people. Make a $30 Single player experience with the Rainbow name on it, put in some of the characters we know and love from Siege, and give it an interesting story, and they might have something. R6S has some really talented and interesting writers on their team, and they have some really talented designers making tools and gadgets and weapons, a SP game would be a great place to just go hog wild and test these things they always wanted to
@KingDracSiege
@KingDracSiege Месяц назад
They need to bring back stat bans. No one should have a 3.0+ KD in ranked. Even the game’s top pro players have KDs around 1.5-2.5. It would be so easy to ban anyone with a 4.0+ KD.
@karelknightmare6712
@karelknightmare6712 Месяц назад
Definitely it would also be easy to let player set personal black lists and stats parameters to choose with whom they play. Others may not care but I think many would love to choose not to play with 4+K/D and low commendations.
@allancoelho6905
@allancoelho6905 Месяц назад
That should be a working system, assuming it only tracks players that are at least above 50 ranked matches in a season, but remembering it's Ubisoft we're talking about, I get this feeling of distress because if it comes, it'll probably be vulnerable enough to be easily bypassed and it wouldn't work correctly anyway, giving bans under false positives
@karelknightmare6712
@karelknightmare6712 Месяц назад
@@allancoelho6905 that’s why personal is a solution to the permanent ban issue. Players who would set ban parameters would have to wait a little bit more because of the matchmaking. Though I think many people would choose to wait a little more to have a ‘clean’ match. And cheater would still have the opportunity to play.
@allancoelho6905
@allancoelho6905 Месяц назад
@@karelknightmare6712 remember it's Ubisoft, their execs are dead set on killing any franchise, or live service they have
@KingDracSiege
@KingDracSiege Месяц назад
We shouldn’t expect a new siege any time soon. Ubisoft is skirting bankruptcy and their leadership wants open world slop
@mason3079
@mason3079 Месяц назад
Why does everyone forget that this was said in 2016 during operation health. “We have 10 more years of content left” it’s getting to the end of sieges life, let it die. They’re going to release v2 anyway.
@lususnaturae881
@lususnaturae881 Месяц назад
In point 2, I'm hearing a lot of excuses for why Ubisoft can't get rid of cheaters. When TF2 who has had a far older code base, a FAR smaller team working on it, and far more bot problems has actually done the "Treadmill work" and managed to improve the game massively in a matter of days. But Siege can't. Right. I should lower my expectations for the company who are selling me garbage and continually making micro-transaction content in a broken game. Obviously, this isn't an attack on the devs, they cant fix shit without manager approval, and fixing the cheating problem isn't yet profitable enough for them to be told to do it, that's why. It has nothing to do with these excuses listed in this video. If there was ever a true code vulnerability, exploit, etc. that let people give out store items or alpha packs, THAT would get patched out in no time, obstacles like "Small team" "Old code base" and "strategic planning requirements" be damned, Because it would affect the bottom line. Your lack of enjoyment in playing the game does not- the revenue comes from the whales who will spend 500$ a month to get every cosmetic even if ranked is unplayable. Moving onto point 3 and The excuses made for their lack of communication being "Oh well they don't get good feedback" so what- the answer is to not ask for feedback at all? To just do whatever the fuck they want, ignore what people don't like about what they do, and keep truckin along after having proven they don't know what they're doing? Like they have been when they WERE getting feedback? The number of times a patch said "We know people won't like this change" or something in the same vein is STAGGERING. Yet they're surprised they get "bad" feedback??? They do dumb shit like nerfing an operators gun because his utility is too strong. We got the LMG meta because "You're playing the game wrong" was how they balanced it. You could go on and on. Love ya G but you're defending indefensible crap. You're coping so hard you're suggesting they're going to do some revolutionary pve gameplay with "AI" off the most vague of vibes, when they removed T-hunt for no reason. AI is not going to save the game, it's always been a dead end and there is zero communication about them having anything like this in the works. You're even making excuses for why EXTRACTION failed, dude come on. It was a bad game, it wasn't circumstance. This entire video feels less like a attempt to inform someone of what Siege needs to do to survive, and more like a defense of the company. Not even just the devs- you're literally doing the "Leave the BILLION dollar corporation alone" meme. Why?
@kerolazuan14
@kerolazuan14 Месяц назад
And dont forget the cheaters need to buy accounts to cheat on repetitively. Cheaters are some of their 'whales'
@slyr0980
@slyr0980 Месяц назад
@@kerolazuan14 Tarkov is also a prime example
@m.a.k.dynasty4504
@m.a.k.dynasty4504 Месяц назад
Extraction wasn't a bad game and the reason why development stopped had nothing to do with performance but the game's creative director leaving the project.
@GreenHop3z
@GreenHop3z Месяц назад
I have a love/hate relationship with Siege but next to DBD, it is my favorite multiplayer game simply because i have always loved its mechanics, characters and vibe. I wish it the best and i really want it to be succesful because, although sometimes it can really be a pain in the ass, there is no other FPS I would rather play
@Nazinsky
@Nazinsky Месяц назад
Same, and I love dbd too, but both have these problems surprisingly
@Spacey_E90
@Spacey_E90 Месяц назад
we have the cake but we dont have the fork or the plate 😔
@GGE
@GGE Месяц назад
I'm going to eat cake
@Skusty
@Skusty Месяц назад
Great yap G! Even if you don't face cheaters a lot, they muddy the waters like you said.
@GGE
@GGE Месяц назад
No doubt!
@orcaofmordor
@orcaofmordor Месяц назад
So the discussion on the single-player tactical command aspect and the reference to Republic Commando immediately made me think of Rainbow Six Vegas and Vegas 2 and how they did really well both giving you the "boots-on-the-ground" view with a protagonist shooting bad guys, but also made it so that you could maneuver your squadmates and think a little bit strategically. I think the most impressive thing is really just how simple it was- it was slick and easy to issue commands, usually only requiring a button or two, but it also encouraged you to think tactically so that Michael and Jung don't get downed and then you have to take the engagements and risk your neck to save them. There was always a feeling of immense satisfaction from taking a quick moment to recon the area with the snake cam, pick out targets, decide your ROE and then pick how you want to enter the room. Their AI is fairly impressive, especially for 2006-08, and they can handle themselves without ever feeling like they're overpowered or useless. Obviously, it's going to be a bit different with Siege because there's so many different gadgets and interactions between them, but I feel like Ubisoft could lean into something like that for a solid singleplayer experience with Siege if they wanted. However, the question of "will they?" is a different matter entirely.
@GGE
@GGE Месяц назад
I believe people in the studio would like to work on it if they could.
@orcaofmordor
@orcaofmordor Месяц назад
Then I do hope they get the chance, because I love this game and I want it to thrive, and I do agree that a singleplayer experience would be a great start for that. Ubisoft has the blueprints, if they're willing to look back at their games from yesteryear. I don't envy these devs one bit but I appreciate what they do, and I hope they get the chance to work on something they feel is worthwhile.
@htctatoo100
@htctatoo100 Месяц назад
Great Video as always G ! Another thing I would like to mention here is how terrible the Ubisoft servers, the launcher, and the live service actually is. This game can't get the improvement as it should when even the main company could not provide the resources, the infrastructure and the manpower for this game. This game is so fun, but what's the point if you can't get in to the game itself ? 9 years of using their live service models, yet me and my friends still have random times that could not connect to the server at all, even when the server is not down. Sometimes just one have infinite loading/ connection problem, and the very next time the same thing happend to another friend. Countless times of us doing their troubleshooting steps, verifying files, Uninstall/Reinstalling the game, searching for online solutions, Flush DnS, internet caches, etc. No solution, didn't work. And everything turns normal again the next week. The back end framework was terrible. Not to mention the autoreply customer services. You spend most of your time waiting for reply and yet still get the same AI responses. We really love this game, and we know how much struggle the Siege devs have to go through. But we just can't be struggling to connect to servers while not thinking how much money Ubisoft gets from us, while not improving their client and provide more support to this game.
@GGE
@GGE Месяц назад
I considered asking why Ubisoft Connect was such a mess in Montreal last year.
@Deadlyvoltage3
@Deadlyvoltage3 Месяц назад
They’re re not doing any of this and they’re gonna survive anyways
@jamesjanik5878
@jamesjanik5878 Месяц назад
R6 was the greatest game I ever played. Friends and I had the best time ever playing that game. Sad to see it die
@GGE
@GGE Месяц назад
It can still make it!
@goblindan2555
@goblindan2555 Месяц назад
Whole lotta negative Nancy's, keep your head up G
@jediritterger
@jediritterger Месяц назад
Thats why i'm so glad Hunt showdown moves to a more current Engine version. At some point adding more sauce to the spaghetti won't cut it, and the more sauce you add the more of a mess it's gonna be untangling it later on
@KingdomOfDimensions
@KingdomOfDimensions Месяц назад
I really hope the hunt devs make good on their promise of a better anti cheat for the next engine, cause that game's not far behind siege in cheater population from my experience.
@uontap
@uontap Месяц назад
I love how your focus with cheaters is on self assesment more than them cheating, if you know the anti cheat is not good you start thinking every good player is cheating and even the good matches leave you disappointed. For example, in CS2 whenever you die to a weird play you automatically assume the person is cheating because the anti cheat is non existant, but in VALORANT you look at how you played it and accept the fact that you got out played. Security of knowing there are no cheaters is as important as the anti cheat itself. Great video and awesome points you brought up!
@mofochezcake4790
@mofochezcake4790 Месяц назад
They don't have the tools but they sure as hell have money to buy them
@alexkim3794
@alexkim3794 Месяц назад
I think part of the reason ubi took so long to redo the frame work of the game is because i guessing ubi thought it'll be a game that'll last for few years and just a filler game untill they make a new R6 PvE game. So it wasnt much of a concern to them that the game is a spaghetti mess and by the time they realized this game is their money maker and the cheating epidenmic, it was too late to do a quick fix. Im fairly sure theyve been playing whack a mole for all that time. Now hopefully theyre updating the infrastructure of the game with this year.
@GGE
@GGE Месяц назад
I hope so too!
@alexanderbruns6574
@alexanderbruns6574 Месяц назад
The execs at Ubisoft really don't understand what they have with this game IP.
@hearth1570
@hearth1570 Месяц назад
One thing I want to add is that they shouldn’t be using by denuvo in the new R6. There’s a very well written steam review for R6 Extraction that explains exactly what Ubi should and shouldn’t do in depth, but the tldr is that Ubi should not have complete control of R6 as a game. We as players should be able to play R6 vs Ai offline and even when servers for R6 go down in the future permanently, we should be able to run our own games and host our own servers. I know this also kind of tackles the idea of game ownership and that whole can of worms, but I would hate if R6 had a situation like Crew2 where none of the players d CDs and play the game anymore ever again simply because Ubi had complete control and decided to pull the plug. This was probably a pretty messy explanation, but I simply love R6 as a game too much to have it ever die for me. I love every operator and how unique they are, and even when I’m 30 or smth 12 years from now, I want to be able to play the game even if the servers have gone down for good.
@The_Last_Data_Hound
@The_Last_Data_Hound Месяц назад
Very astute game plan (pun intended) on how to improve on the game for most of the fanbase honestly. I really hope Ubisoft puts you in the credits for their next big step in the Siege franchise because the video concisely laid everything they need to follow and a good priority list.
@JaePlay
@JaePlay Месяц назад
Its happening not for the reasons you might think. Cheating is an ENTIRE industry worth of revenue stream for them. For whatever insane reason, cheaters are going through getting copies of the game under diff email addresses + phone numbers to cheat repeatedly. Ubi knows this, and wants to keep that as a source of income. it just isnt being said because ubi admitting that wouldnt be a great move.
@ShorelyToastGaming
@ShorelyToastGaming Месяц назад
I'm ready for a ground up Siege 2. Brand new engine completely overhauled models and textures, new effects and weapon sounds and destruction 2.0
@anonymoose3103
@anonymoose3103 Месяц назад
i feel like the battleye being so strict with what is running in the background just increases false bans, like slightly modifying the drivers got me permabanned, yet cheaters still run rampant even with the extremely strict anticheat. i just think siege should seek more permanent solutions like valve had in csgo, they have a similiar issue but false bans are next to zero, but when they do happen they get reverted. i have swapped to cs2 and had no problems with EAC.
@raininginside
@raininginside Месяц назад
Siege got left in the dust because ubi is pouring the resources into their next "supposedly" multiplayer money cow XDifiant.
@LordArtorias793
@LordArtorias793 Месяц назад
Its crazy to see so many popular games go through this rn at the same time and for the dev teams to either not mention it or they spoon feed you some bs lies about them working on it. What a great time for gaming 🙄
@charlieroberts3553
@charlieroberts3553 Месяц назад
Genuine question: I’m not sure if I’m not a high enough rank or what, but I’ve only encountered maybe 2/3 cheaters in the last 5-7 years. I also play on console (please leave smart ass comments below regarding this). Is it because console or my rank I don’t see this problem personally? Because I see this complaint everywhere. Thanks so much G for your videos, it really helps me having amazing content to watch in my free time, that is a service that is tremendously understated and undervalued.
@reedo253
@reedo253 Месяц назад
It's console - it's WAY more difficult to have cheats on console (with the exception of xim/MnK). It's a real problem on PC.
@Ssian_
@Ssian_ Месяц назад
​@@reedo253on high ranks MnK are like the rule Not joking
@KingofEvil
@KingofEvil Месяц назад
Just recently on high rank on pc I have had 4 cheater matches in a row, and got rewarded 70rr at the end of the season.
@SMITHOMATIC
@SMITHOMATIC Месяц назад
Anyone else remember rainbow six vegas 1-2. I always thought it was so cool that you could customize your character. Load up on armour but your’e slow like a rock. Have little to no armour and you could get lit up. Change up your colours. Going back the game seems dated now, the cover mechanic was wonky but it was damn fun in its hey day.
@Eztp
@Eztp Месяц назад
The only way for them to survive is to return the 1.5x sights ngl
@fischele5790
@fischele5790 Месяц назад
You are speaking my thoughts exactly. New Blood is a maintenance patch but I am really confused why it was not marketed that way. Demanding an "Operating Health 2.0" was a pretty popular thing to do for a lomg time. Now we got our operation health but it's not seen as that. It is seen as the worst content update the game has ever had, with a new subscription system as an added F U on top
@Lotsofcaps
@Lotsofcaps Месяц назад
I would come back and play Siege a lot more if there was any kind of worthwhile PVE experience. Solo and Co Op. It still baffles me that they made Quarantine or whatever it was a separate game, and took away the T hunt missions. Just anything more casual with some progression and difficulty if I want that. I want something to play when I don't want to roll the dice with PvP.
@bingchilling8586
@bingchilling8586 Месяц назад
Siege used to feel like what ready or not feels like. I think Ubisoft would do better to fix this game and leave it, create a new game that works like old siege and all they add is new weapons and missions with maps. I think many old players miss the genuine tactical component and hate the futuristic gadget gimmick
@goga.games18
@goga.games18 Месяц назад
Not issue for everyone but another thing is this games optimization got so bat that i cant play it anymore on my pc it freezes all the time Back in 2017 i was able to run game on 4gb of ram ‼️‼️yes 4 whitout freezes , Now i can't run it on 8 without freezing every 3 seconds 😡😡😡
@lucywalton8833
@lucywalton8833 Месяц назад
I love the new intro
@GGE
@GGE Месяц назад
Watch for the blast
@compilederror3724
@compilederror3724 Месяц назад
I love your channel, your insight into the game is always appreciated
@zackm9729
@zackm9729 Месяц назад
How can it survive if it's already dead
@AsgarIronsword
@AsgarIronsword Месяц назад
I wonder if people would be okay with Siege 2 having just the OG ops or maybe like OG+Y1&Y2 and then adding in the newer ops over time. As you said Siege has ALOT of content to move over, and that takes time. So realistically it could be a year of just trickling in operators in batches before we even get new ops, but if it meant a new game from the ground up with actually effective anticheat it could be the play.
@goony2703
@goony2703 Месяц назад
siege DOES need a new anticheat, tarkov uses battle eye to. tarkov has lots of cheaters but nowhere near as many as siege, ive played both for thousands of hours and this season of siege is worse than any cheating problem ive ever seen. ubi has 0 excuse for this and all the money in the world to fix it.
@ur-kiwi
@ur-kiwi Месяц назад
Gregor spitting Interesting and insightful takes since 2016! Its quite interesting to me where Siege has come to. I left playing the game in the middle of the last season. One thing that I would mention is that if they need to refactor/rework the game's architecture in accordance to modularity and security, they would need to do it alongside the current game. Technical debt is a bitch, and you commit to things and promises for the sake of the deadline. However, if they do rework the game along side and the player base gives them a break, they can skip on easing off the art department with keeping the models, visuals and everything art related the same. It can just be a code rework. But looking at the community, that ain't happening lol
@XYVTN
@XYVTN Месяц назад
But can Ubi not introduce a form of harder punishment for cheaters when discovered? Such as hardware bans? Or introduce even more security measures. Adding your phone number and more. There have to be ways to mitigate the cheater problem significantly other than restructuring the entire game.
@lonelyone69
@lonelyone69 Месяц назад
I actually came back to siege after climbing diamond in valorant for 3 seasons. Valorant just isnt hitting it's way too linear and I missed the chaos. I came back and got put in lobbies where half the players are licking the floor and sniffing glue.
@karelknightmare6712
@karelknightmare6712 Месяц назад
CS2 has shown that new graphics, did not solve cheating (to say the least). To me R6 does not need new content at a huge rate. Oregon is like a dust2 map. I guess it’d be played also in a while. The main issue by far is cheating and toxic behaviors. People should be able to make their own personal black list. They should be able to choose to play with peers only above some level of commendations.
@jowell6921
@jowell6921 Месяц назад
Rainbow Six Siege but XCOM. You control 3 squads with 3 ops on each one in a siege mission. Defend or Attack a map, maybe Scort missions too. I wish Siege had a Vip Scort game mode, like in Black Squad.
@peepzbenz516
@peepzbenz516 Месяц назад
I remember playing rainbow six on the original Xbox 😢 was to scared to play lone wolf so I’d go in with the ai buddy 🤣
@dynastyhunter5
@dynastyhunter5 Месяц назад
Watching that first clip 😂😂 finka just not planting
@mattycat_5009
@mattycat_5009 Месяц назад
remaking/ porting the game, in the same way as Cs2 doesn't bring better anticheat it only brings easyer and better expandability, Cs2 got 'modernized' in order to have easyer expandability but valve hasn't added any new content
@ShadoDiablosXD
@ShadoDiablosXD Месяц назад
I play mostly casual because of cheaters in ranked. But even in casual I lose so spectacularly that its hard to tell if im just bad or not. I get one tapped, quick peeked with no info, wall banged, floor banged, etc etc. It happens so often and in such a brutal way that i stopped playing. Because i cant. I cant play a single game and enjoy it because i get curb stomped for even being in a match.
@GodlyBDS
@GodlyBDS Месяц назад
The issue isnt battleye battleye does its job if you use a cheat that battleye knows of u get banned u csnt even get into a round the second you connect banned but if theres a new cheat battleye doesnt know about and it doesnt violate or ring any alarm bells because the cheat dev knows what he is doing you have a cheat which is not detected the way battleye csn detect it is if they buy it themselves and reverse the entire cheat idk who has knowledge of reversing but its a lot of work and cheat devs also heavily obfuscate their code so that reversing becomes an even more tedious job and most of these cheats have even further protection which is why some cheats go undetected for months so the onky way to ban them is manual sure ragehackers are an easy ban but people hiding it well enough is another thing for you as a player it might seem weitd or you are 100% sure hes cheating but to ubisoft who dont really play the game on the same level or whoever is doing the manual bans it just seems like a normal good player so they dont want to falsely ban people its not battleye its the cheat devs who are putting in too much work for a cheat in a video game
@Fizzyxd
@Fizzyxd Месяц назад
How to fix Siege: Remove half the operators. Rework all the maps so they're actually good. (OPTIONAL) Siege to stop existing.
@williewillikers9631
@williewillikers9631 Месяц назад
I remember people saying to "make a siege 2" years ago, infact I'm pretty sure *you, specifically* said that lmao
@alphonsowillis6942
@alphonsowillis6942 Месяц назад
i just experienced gargantuan whiplash realizing that this did in fact used to be the channel g**gor and isnt a new different siege channel id just happened to see pop up. congratulations!!!!!! im hoping to get on E soon but florida is like living in yharnam so we'll see. im so happy for you!!!!
@jacksonjabba
@jacksonjabba Месяц назад
If you were an 8th grader when this game came out, you would have, as of this year, graduated middle school, high school, and college. You could have played this game in middle school and now be going off into the games industry to work on this game, that’s how old the code base is
@TractorKid45
@TractorKid45 Месяц назад
One point I wanna make is that its not impossible to fix the cheater problem with our current limitations. For a long time we thought valve would never fix the bot problem in TF2, an older and even more barbed wire coded game. Yet just a couple days ago... the bots are seemingly gone? I have no idea if valve will keep it up but whatever theyre doing has succeeded and most prominent bot hosters and cheaters have been ran out on a 17 year old game in Source engine. I wasn't hopeful but now I am
@midruto2127
@midruto2127 Месяц назад
Thoughts on a cheat dev saying ubi uses a outdated battle eye
@l33tnobody1337
@l33tnobody1337 Месяц назад
at this point they'd be better off to just make Siege 2 on an entirely new codebase and with entirely new balancing but I doubt they'll do that. It's Ubisoft we're talking about here, I have ZERO faith in them whatsoever as they have done absolutely nothing in the past 5 or so years that would warrant giving them any trust. They overexerted themselves with too many projects and games that either nobody wanted or that were just stuck in development hell forever while neglecting their actually liked and played games (For Honor, Siege) and I don't see how they'll maneuver themselves out of it. They're still stuck in a perpetual cycle of chasing the next big service game, releasing one bland nothingburger nobody wants to play after the other and completely ignoring what their potential customers and current customers actually want and they're starting to suffer heavily because of it. If they can't get their shit together in the next 1-2 years they'll either be going under or will get bought by someone else.
@lambtheweeb2
@lambtheweeb2 Месяц назад
I don't think the problem is that Ubisoft doesn't have a plan, I think it's that Ubisoft has displayed their fundamental inability to address real mechanical issues with their games as a whole - For Honor, The Division 1 & 2, Rainbow 6 Siege, Skull and Bones, etc. They're incompetent. I don't believe this is a passion issue, or an ambition issue, it's a competency and resource issue. They said on their roadmap that they are going to try to implement the first AI Anti-Cheat, okay but like you said... when.. realistically could that be implemented and more than that.. will it even be effective knowing how again... incompetent Ubisoft is at these kinds of things. Ubisoft as a company has created a shit ton of awesome and unique ideas in the gaming market and I love them for that, but my god all of their games are plagued by very similar things. If it isn't already obvious enough, I'm at the point where I just have no faith in them to create games with true integrity anymore. Their games will still be interesting, they will continue to propose cool and amazing ideas, but their follow through will likely continue to be complete shit and so for that... I'm out.
@MegaClogger
@MegaClogger Месяц назад
1:52 sounds like the local imported Venezuelans at my Chicago Park District.
@DECKSER1
@DECKSER1 Месяц назад
I can't imagine playing on pc with cheaters, so I just play on console. The biggest issue for me is how boring these gadget are getting and the removal of fun gadgets and maps like the turret, the 1.5 and my house. The reworks to maps are making the game much less interesting as all the entrances are being simplified with no variation.
@C1cat
@C1cat Месяц назад
I rewatched the intro 5 times before the rest of the vid, its perfect 👍👌🤌
@gamingclouds5324
@gamingclouds5324 Месяц назад
With a company that prioritize fast money and having scandals with other games (AC shadow for example) I'm pretty sure this game is hard to survive in next 2-3 years, might be shorter
@jetsflyingoffatrain4338
@jetsflyingoffatrain4338 Месяц назад
The Keres Legion is suspiciously similar to the Shadow Agency from Killer Bean
@PortlyHunter
@PortlyHunter Месяц назад
modernizing the client would explain how buggy this season has been. I hope you're right G, great vid
@zzurge1173
@zzurge1173 Месяц назад
That opener about a certain L rifle is peak
@Justghebba
@Justghebba Месяц назад
They should make a new game. Siege is old as fuck, that’s the main problem. Than theres cheaters, and xim and mnk on console. Than the bugs and the fact that ranked does not work the way it should. But first and foremost the game is old as f.
@Korbin-jt7fq
@Korbin-jt7fq Месяц назад
I have a problem on console idk if you all do but I’m in gold being matched against diamonds and emeralds
@is_misfortune8404
@is_misfortune8404 Месяц назад
I think the culmination of all of these macro level issues comes down to the business side of Ubisoft. Right now they've hit the deadline that you were talking about, and they don't really have the means to do anything about the problems with this game.
@niecks
@niecks Месяц назад
As a Counter-Strike player: changing the engine wont do shit to combat cheater
@tacillo
@tacillo Месяц назад
it would. A lot of the current exploits that cheaters are able to use are caused by the way the engine works. A change could potentially fix a lot of them.
@maxi-dm2vd
@maxi-dm2vd Месяц назад
I'm sorry, how many years ago was Operation Health??
@twayneusmc1993
@twayneusmc1993 Месяц назад
I've been BEGGING for some type of PvE in this game simply due to me being such a casual with the game these days
@kamik1ng
@kamik1ng Месяц назад
I don't mind having an anticheat that is hardware dependent like Vanguard, as long as the cheaters are banned. I love what Riot did with Valorant, simply love it. Shit... I would take this anticheat in all fps competitive games. People who complain or are afraid (probably paranoia) are simply close minded people that thinks that his PC information matters, like who cares about you.
@HardBreachingComedy
@HardBreachingComedy Месяц назад
I think they can create r6 two and move player progression from siege
@THE1NONLYNINE
@THE1NONLYNINE Месяц назад
1. great video i listened to the whole yap sash. 2. couldn't they start cracking down on stat bans?, people with like 3.2kd in champ, that shows obvious sighs of some foreplay, not even pros can average 3kills before they die every round. couldn't this get rid of a lot if not most of the cheaters?
@JustCallMeEm.
@JustCallMeEm. Месяц назад
I despise steam but had extraction launched on steam day 1 with the larger player base I suspect it may still be getting updates today
@The_Fuse_Maestro11
@The_Fuse_Maestro11 Месяц назад
I just got back into siege for almost 11 months of not playing and man they nerfed every operator in the game not gadget wise but guns It may be me cleaning the dust off with my aim in siege but the recoil for all the operators I play just feel odd.. I feel like they need to buff every op back weapon wise and ppl would start to come back besides the obvious cheater problem
@Yoshi92
@Yoshi92 Месяц назад
I've walked away long ago due to cheaters being rly annoying in this game. Now I play good games and private matches with friends. Cuz in private matches there are no cheaters :)
@Mecreator
@Mecreator Месяц назад
They could also do a Activision blizzard and releasing Rainbow Six Siege 2
@cerjmedia
@cerjmedia Месяц назад
I was so with you until you said that Rainbow Six Extraction is a fundamentally bad idea that would never work, I definitely have to disagree so hard there, I think the problem with R6E is that Ubisoft was making it was shining of Ubisoft Game Design. If it had an actual story, with actual stakes; actual dialogue and ACTUAL PROGRESSION OF EVENTS, and your actions in game reflected the story then it could be a great game. The problem is that you ended up going to the same 4 locations doing the same things with no link to the story over and over again. We know that Ubisoft can do better because we have Operation Outbreak, it was by no means a masterpiece but it had substantially more dynamic elements, story, motives etc. The idea of Extraction was great, they just dropped the ball and made a boring ass forgettable game that they dare try to sell cosmetics for, cosmetics which by the way, only work in extraction and cannot be transferred to Siege
@LeTomasiu
@LeTomasiu Месяц назад
We must spam on all Ubisoft freaking social media OPERATION HEALTH 2.0.
@Drk-dm8if
@Drk-dm8if Месяц назад
The state of siege is accurately depicted by its remaining playerbase
@lasthope9295
@lasthope9295 Месяц назад
As much as I would like Ubi to move siege to a new engine, i don’t think it will happen. They would, like you said, need to start from scratch and we won’t see it till perhaps another 9 years. They of course would to pay the employees for all that time while making less content and money in the live game. It would not be a financially wise decision. Again as much as I would love it, I doubt it will happen. And for the less content we are getting, whether it’s the named Operation Health 2.0 or wether they are now slowing down due to technical limitations or resistance, it’s concerning to many players.
@lucasleite9009
@lucasleite9009 Месяц назад
To be completely honest here, I think the major problem with siege right now is player perception. I mean, sure, it's a good thing that they might take a season without any new content to flush out some of the stuff that is already there, and work on the cheating problem. But the thing is, none of this is going to matter if at the end of the day, we don't see the improvements that they were working on. If at the end of the season people get into a match, and see a cheater, everyone is gonna feel like nothing has been done, and it was a "wasted" season. Even if at the end of the day, things improved. There is a big dissonance between what people feel about a game and what is actually going on. Every now and then I hear the exact same complaints that, the game is dying, and that less and less people are playing it, even though the game has been stable for years. If you go by numbers alone, a quick look at something like steam charts (which I know isn't the greatest source of truth, but it's still a metric nonetheless), you can see that on June 2024 the game had an average of ~57k players with a peak of ~88k, on 2023 it was 45k/68k and 2022 it was 38k/69k... so no, the game isn't dying, but it's a fact that most of the community today is always complaining about something, so of course people tend to look at r6 like a game that is in decline. I think that, as things goes on, it gets harder and harder to please everyone, and when you have a community that's been going for almost 10 years, things tend to blow out of proportions when people talk about it. Just look at the whole 1.5x scope situation, people got so much attention to that thing, that it had to be REMOVED FROM THE GAME. Personally, one of the reasons why I haven't played siege in a while, even though I really like the design and concept of the new characters, is the fact that I don't really enjoy the way things have been balanced lately, for example, Solis was viewed as such an overpowered character by the community, that the only way that Ubisoft had to get people to "look at other characters" was nerfing almost every aspect of her kit in a single patch, cause if they don't do stuff like that, perception of her wouldn't have changed. So yeah, player perception in siege is completely broken. Hell in the past 3 years or so, I can barely remember the times I got to play as Jackal, he's not even one of those operators that are "good for every situation, and every map", but a lot of people still choose to ban him, because, even though there are better decisions you can make on the ban phase, people still see him as one of the biggest threats on attack.
@legacy_the_archer
@legacy_the_archer Месяц назад
Siege 2.0 is so needed .
@sippasippasippa
@sippasippasippa Месяц назад
It's so funny how klar was known as the "shit" cheat for the longest time, than with this new season they deleted the main shit that detected it and made it just as good as expensive cheats. Hoping that this is just operation health 2.0
@vikings_fans_anonymous
@vikings_fans_anonymous Месяц назад
Mousetrap doesn’t work on console
@itsdare1493
@itsdare1493 Месяц назад
the problem is ubisoft
@SMITHOMATIC
@SMITHOMATIC Месяц назад
RAINBOW 7 ENCIRCLEMENT
@agooseexplains4163
@agooseexplains4163 Месяц назад
My guy I can’t even play on my severs because of farming bots💀(African severs btw)
@luizFernando--iz5bm
@luizFernando--iz5bm Месяц назад
The only thing a desagree is that ubisoft is just not a small company and it does have funds to solve this problems it was negligence from the company and it should be punished by its actions, i say that but siege dosen't have a competetor so i will keep playing it
@geekbuilder4237
@geekbuilder4237 Месяц назад
I say it's mostly because WE CAN'T PLAY THE FUCKING GAME. Me and many many other people have loading glitches 4 matches out of 6 and ubisoft never fixes it, let's not even talk about the huge lag spikes sometimes and also teleportation glitches, chat glitches, replay glitches, aiming down sight glitches, absolutely ridiculous hipfire precision of the vector, and the fact that UBISOFT CONNECT HAS THE SLOWEST DOWNLOAD SPEED I'VE EVER SEEN AS WELL AS EPIC GAMES AND BATTLE NET. I would love to say there is not more greedy than ubisoft but it just gets worse at that point.
@aray493
@aray493 Месяц назад
Honestly idec about cheaters as much, they usually suck and can be dealt with. However the hit registry is absolutely horrible now, servers are unbelievably inconsistent. I'd rather play against cheaters I can still shoot versus people I can't kill at all
@tacillo
@tacillo Месяц назад
real. hitreg is so bad atm, literally dying to shots that didnt even hit 1/3 of the time
@richardjananderson5461
@richardjananderson5461 Месяц назад
Maybe after banning a cheater, they have to buy the game again. That is a revenue stream.
@jrbudoybudoy
@jrbudoybudoy Месяц назад
Ubi should just pull a Blizzard and just make a Siege 2 like OW2 but be it the same game just rebuilt from the ground up. They can also transition to F2P and try to monetize the game through skins like how Valorant does.
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