Sig Sauer MCX Virtus PCP Air Rifle "Part 1" "Full Review" by Airgun Detectives 

Is it possible to remove the tank when it's still filled? Or is there at least a method of degassing it?

One more question...two actually...were the 21 grain h&n slugs among what you tested? If so, what kind of accuracy would they get, despite the reduced velocity?

@@vangoghaway626 This rifle should shoot nothing over 14.3 gr. Let's see what the 2nd batch produces.

@@vangoghaway626 You can remove the tank but it is a bit difficult with the pressure.

@@AirgunDetectives pyramyd air's b.b. posted about getting around 500 fps with 21 grain beeman kodiaks, but accuracy suffered too. The weight is throwing it off obviously, but I was wondering if the shape of a h&n slug with the same weight would have better results, especially considering the way it engages the grooves of the belt, and the rifling itself

Thanks Victor and I appreciate you watching 👍😉

Airgun Detectives what of the two was better, in terms of accuracy and performance, the mcx .177 or the mcx .22 virtus?

@@Mkv_jaahze the Virtus is being updated and improved so let's wait for that version which should be out this summer. The MCX Co2 was less powerful, but pretty accurate and less money. They both have a place in anyone's airgun collection 👍

Airgun Detectives how do people get below 400 FPS with the mcx .177?

@@Mkv_jaahze maybe a really heavy pellet? That drops the FPS.

Is there any new info when exactly will there be that new version?

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how much more fps ?

Thank you and appreciate your kind comments 👍

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@Smash Revino Glad that it is out? Oh, yes! Finally! Just wonder though the manner it has come out. Seems guys in the UK got their modded piece in their hands before even decent US videos started to come out by your everyday consumers and not just pro airgun reviewers. And yet apparently some big airgun webstores in the US are just selling out-of-stock.😁 My local airgun retailer will be importing it later in spring/summer. So getting to wait for it myself also. But that gives me time to stuble upon issues and opinions that these guys first in line gets along the way..

Bros...look at my updated information regarding the Virtus. I put it in the description below the video. Sig was very receptive with the information we chatted about.

@@AirgunDetectives Ha! Thank you so very much for the info! Yeah.. I rarely read the descriptions of videos..😁 Rarely someone puts something significant in there - as you truly did there.. Thank you! -An upgraded version with better performance? Oh, man! The ones that are often tight on cash but still pre-ordered this one..they gotta be pissed! And think of the ones in the UK! I really gotta write my retailer and thell them not to be in hurry to import the Virtus yet.. Although.. If it may come already improved.. Where is the fun in that? Just an hour ago I shot my co2 MCX after putting it back together last night. Dialed in the red dot and tested the functions after alterations of internals. Smoothened out the trigger. No tougher resistance at the 2/3 point of the trigger anymore. After that first loose part of the trigger it kinda hit a small "wall" (or a steep climb if you will) that you had to pull over before the trigger got lighter once again before the releasing point. Now it rolls smoother than ever - and will probably smoothen out more with use.. Also renewed the firing pin. The original pin was just pressed in there - so, after it fell out once (an issue others have suffered from also on their MCX/MPXs), I decided to switch it to a steel bolt with threads all through the rear of the gaschamber. Made a longer and round nut on the back of the gaschamber that secures the bolt and also functions as a small guide rod for the spring within the tube behind. Filed also a bit the latch that drops down onto the belt and stops it at the barrel.. Allkinda small things. The first time ever I did not take it apart and put it back together all in one late evening..😂 Just shot one 12g capsule/30rd mag this morning, but it seemed to work promisingly well. Hope it just keeps up like this.. ..And allkinda small things like these I would have been expecting to do on the Virtus also..(just to keep this long last text somehow related to the Virtus😂)...

@@brorjordas1979 good job on that trigger work and firing pin replacement! You'll have to do a video on that custom work. I shared that info with SIG that I shared with you. More psi, raised lips in the mag belt, heavy trigger. They advised they are addressing it and the newer version "will have much better performance" I will test one of those as soon as they are complete. I am still waiting on my 1200, 1500 and 1800 psi regulators. Will still test those just for fun.

@@AirgunDetectives I bet you are going to test that improved version.😁 Will be interesting to see how much it may differ from this first edition. After changing that firing pin on my co2 MCX it shoots noticeably harder - or at least as long the co2 has not cooled. Seemed to keep the power up better this morning than before. Had a too long head on the prototype firing pin before, so it only gave about 10 hard shots before starting rapidly to cool too much. But those hard shots gave good results on target - while those sloppier shots also gave a wider spread on the grouping sideways. I mostly want this Virtus to get the cooling factor away from the equation. I dunno - but as if the fps would remarkably affect the sideway spread also. I shot my 30 shots today with an unmodded magbelt - and it seemed quite accurate. Only shot from approx 10 meters (unmeasured) of course - because of not having a clue how much off target the red dot might be. But I am hoping/guessing a harder shooting Virtus might also be more accurate. I hate it when I hear a noticeable difference in the sound of a shot with the co2 MCX - then I just KNOW that a grouping has gotten an awful flyer somewhere. But luckily, I did not hear that today.😁 Just awaiting for your regulator tests. Will be interesting to see the differences in percentage rates between the raised psi and fps.. Probably not gonna do videos. But I do every now and then put up pics on airgun related FB groups of my mods and stuff.. I usually take pics - just for documentation. No need to rely so much on memory - and then cancalways show actual parts instead of just describing them.

I put over 600 hundred rounds through it and tested at least 24 different pellets. It is a fun rifle! Thanks for watching and I appreciate you commenting!

Thank you...I just heard from Sig yoday. The updated rifle is supposed to be released today. I should be getting one to review in the next few weeks. I hope they made some significant changes with the magazine belt. They didn't share any info with me yet, but we will examine every detail. #staytunedforairgundetectives

@@AirgunDetectives If you will get that gun and how it works or anything, please make a short video or message. :) That is very usefull. I'm thinking also about SIG MCX 4.5 CO2 and convert it to use 12g capsules. I don't know if the power is lower when using conversion, or is there some kind of regulator which takes mostly the exact same amount every shot? For me buying that kind of stuff like PCP scuba tank, or pumping on the shooting range for half an hour makes it difficult to fully want to buy that kind of gun. Anybody know if that conversion for MCX 4.5 is worth it?

Tim, I appreciate you watching, and thank you for your comments 😉👍🏻

And I love the fact you watch them 👍😉

Yes...I did an updated version as well👍

@@AirgunDetectives can't find part 2 only the SIG Sauer MPX & MCX Co2 Rifle "Full Review" by Airgun Detectives

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Thank you for watching and I appreciate the feedback 😉👍

Welcome and appreciate your comments 👍

Thank you for watching!👍

I just got it in last Saturday, tested it with about 600 pellets. I wanted to get this review out because many were curious about it as I was. It is really a fun gun. Thanks again for watching 👍

The update version should be out sometime this summer and it should be greatly improved. I will feature that as soon as it is released. Thank for watching. I love Kauai, I was just there last summer 👍

Thanks again for your comments. This model I tried shooting rounds with the pellet seater and without. It made no difference in accuracy but certain pellets it actually pushed them in too far. So I found it works better without the seater. But a very fun gun!

I appreciate you watching the updated version is due out anytime. I am anxious to see how well they improved it. Thank you for subscribing and I appreciate your comments 👍

@@AirgunDetectives Didn't know they were coming out with an updated version. I think I will wait for your review before I buy one. Looking forward to it! Have a great day!

Bump stock.😆

With lead pellets it has some issues. I have spoken with Sig and shared some extensive issues. They were very receptive and are addressing these with the goal of drastically improving the performance. The newest model should be released this summer. I will be reviewing that model as soon as they are completed. Thanks for watching!!

@Matt Mann The only thing I can say is Sig Air is relatively new in the airgun community. I don't think they have fine tuned the expertise as of yet. Hopefully they'll continue to get better. I don't have a new batch rifle to test so I cannot verify any of the upgrades as far as testing the performance.

It's a very fun gun! Always curious how they actually will perform compared to what the MFG claims. They were pretty much right on with this.

Airgun Detectives excellent! Just ordered the M1 Carbine. Look forward to your review on that too🤩

@@MrGambino88 I don't have one of those. They look great. Keep me updated on how it performs 👍

@@AirgunDetectives Just tried the Carbine and it's awesome. It may feel a bit cheap because it's plastic, but the accuracy is really dead on. And you can compensate with the vindage sight. An absolute awesome plinker. You will love it^^

@@MrGambino88outstanding! Enjoy and I hope to test one in the future. 👍👍

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Hi Chris, I got really lucky with the first one I tested because it actually had a good performance. I am hoping to get one from the new Batch to test. I want to confirm the upgrades first hand. Hopefully I'll have one soon. Thanks for tuning in👍😉

Not sure if they did any updates on the rifle as they claimed? Sig has refused to reach out to me as far as letting me test the newer batch of rifles. I was promised one over 6 months ago and it has not happened. I continue to reach out to no avail at this time.🤔

@@AirgunDetectives sounds frustrating. I wonder if the platform you shot can be modified for significantly more power??

Not sure what the updates will address, but hopefully accuracy and the trigger! But it was a fun rifle and I guess I got a good one as far as the first generation. I did send it back and will review the new model as soon as it is released. Thanks for watching!

Airgun Detectives-Airgun Reviews a news about new model

You'll have to update me on your modifications. I know you'll never leave it stock. This is basically the Co2 version shooting 1200 psi regulated air. The .22 caliber is a nice touch. 👌

@@AirgunDetectives Sure will inform you. What? That I would not leave it stock?..😂😂😉 Yup. I guess you know me.😁 Yes. I do think it is basically same as them co2 versions - but with some parts changed for the use of air.. I gladly woulda gotten this in .177 - just because larger spaces needs more air to fill it up - and I prefer flatter trajectories. I do have now had time to see comments online by other owner's mods and so on. Will see what I dare, can and will be doing. I do though think I'll never go up to a 1500psi regulator mod as someone did. Probably a bit too much imo.. The rifle do state it's max pressure after all - and I would not like to risk my rifle, that cost me over €500 and has no spare parts sold online (as far as I know).. Now. Time for me to open that parcel I received today...😁😁😁😁😁😁 (hope all is good. Thumbs up.)

@@AirgunDetectives Had my own private unboxing last night.. Dunno where the copyright texts are. Not sure where to search for a date-stamp. But I think I got a "First Edition"...🙄 -First thought truly was "Wow! This seems a bit heavier.". But the bottle wiggle is just..Wow! Never noticed that kind of a wiggle in review videos. And after putting the bottle onto it - the rifle front also started kinda sounding odd. But I guess it is because of the loose handguard fit and a two-part plastic outer barrel/shroud. I never kinda realized the outer barrel being polymer (wtf? I woulda preferred aluminium myself, absolutely) - and the two parts not fitting that well into each other, and may draw the shroud into a left or right tilt when the inner barrel end cap is tightened against the front part of the outer barrel. I think the outer barrel joint needs some slight, fine redoing so that the outer rim of the outer barrel joint is compressed into each other and not the slightly too long flat head-cut fitting.. I do kinda like the idea of this outer barrel. Inner barrel screwed in, outer barrel attached around it, a nut draws the inner barrel while compressing the outer shroud/barrel tight - but the parts could have been done better and be more refined. The inner barrel sticks alone out from the receiver very sturdy - but after the installment of the outer shroud and handguard..THEN you seem to get some movement in the front also.. Tested my DIY electric hand pump machine for the first time with an actual bottle now. Only pumped the bottle up to the green zone. I had to test that one too of course, to see if the bottle sorks as should. Gonna test shoot the rifle "as is" at first of course. Then can decide if I truly wanna keep this one or just send it back - and buy from another retailer that most probably now got of the second batch.. But of course I'd wanna keep this one.😁 I kinda like the idea of the challenge that I've been sant. But only if it works as should, without any accuracy expectations and all. The internal mechanical action seemed good. The cone behind the mag gets moved fully out before the piring pin gets fired. The mag sits sturdy and goes all the way up without any up-down movement. The belt stopper fork moves all the way down as it should.. All this could be seen within the magwell. The trigger just needs to be worked in - or given straight away a filing/polishing job.😁 But, will see. Gonna have time all by myself next week. Good time to test shoot - and maybe tear it all apart if deciding to keep it, which I most probably will...

@@brorjordas1979 the bottle usually stabilized once it is full of air. In my opinion not a big difference in performance between Gen1 and Gen 2. They only had Gen-1 out for a few weeks over a year ago. They recalled them from the distributors. The odds of you having a Gen-1 are very slim. Somehow I think you'll make a good shooter out of it. Keep me posted 👍

@@AirgunDetectives I do have read the bottle oughta stabilize after filling it up - but also read that according to Sig it is not supposed to be sloppy like that at any point. Someone patched that up by just adding a couple of o-rings upon the regulator neck so it'll hold stiff against the rear of the rifle. But I'd wanna fix that bottle wobble internally - if taken the rifle apart. Seems like loosely fitted internals to me. Kinda odd though. The co2 MCX had very well fitted parts whenever they were meant to fit tight. Okay.. Thanks for the info! We usually do get late shipments of all products over here in FIN. Therefore I'd then not take it as a gen1. Especially if gen1 taken from the market that fast. Tested pumping just the bottle last night. Slowly got pressure built. But now gotten to think ifbI oughta have pumped it when attached to the rifle.. So I now decided to empty the bottle by twisting it slowly onto the rifle and let it leak out. Dunno how these seals hold up a full bottle. But apparently air also came out thru the barrel - which now means of course that the valve inside is leaking..🙄 Just getting a steonger urge to just take it apart..😂 I did after all also void the warranty on my co2 MCX before getting to shoot a single shot with it.😂 No idea why this all is happening to me..😂😂😂

I tested it both ways. With the seater and without. It makes absolutely no difference on this gun. The .177 Co2 version you absolutely need the seater. In fact this seater pushed in some pellets a little too far causing the belt to jam. It works best without. I should have covered that. ☹ Thanks for watching👍

@@AirgunDetectives Thanks for the heads up, will chuck the instructions in the bin then :)

Every Break-barrel Has the Exact Same Velocity, depending on Pellet Weight, Regardless of Model or Manufacturer. The MCX .22 is the Repeater Everyone's Been waiting for! Until .30 or Greater, that is...😉

They are coming out with a handpump. Not sure if it is there's or just re-labeled from another manufacturer . They should have the updated version of the Virtus out this simmer, but with the Covid-19 setback I wouldn't hold your breath! Thanks for watching and I appreciate your comments.

This is fun to shoot! I already put 600 plus rounds through it testing it.

Can i pest control with it?

Perhaps you Should Watch More Airgun Detective Videos. It's the Same Gun in a Larger Caliber, hence the Lower Velocity. You Should Try a Heavier Pellet

I tested the 1st generation model with a 1200, 1500, 1800 and a 2200 psi regulator. It had no effect on increased performance because in addition to the bottle regulator, it had an internal regulator set at 1200 psi. The extra pressure caused miss-fires with the semi-auto mechanism. I was hoping it would have been like my .25 Gauntlet. I ramped that up with a larger bottle and regulated that to 2200 psi. I am getting 58 FPE out of that. I was hoping for increased results with the Virtus but it didn't happen. I was a bit frustrated with Sig in that the Virtus could have been so much better.

I also now have one of these, I've padded out a sock with some flat foam packing and slipped it over the tank covering the manometer and fill point. (This protects and improves appearance) Then you open up the butt end and slide on the butt. If the material is thin enough you can skip that bit and get the butt on anyway. Have you got the semi auto function back to working, if not check out UK youtube channels, you will have to observe carefully, cos you wont get any verbals. BTW, reverse 'engineering' this function doesnt make it dodgy.

Please can you let me know if you agree with non seating of these light weight non lead pellets work faultlessly. And any other useful remedies that make using this air rifle more useful.

DT11 what army where you in carrying an ak47 or a g3 🤦🏻‍♂️ in the UK ..........let me guess I will save you the trouble of responding you can’t talk about it 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

The First Strike 13ci Floating Air Stock from ANSGEAR.com fits perfectly on the bottle and is adjustable for length of pull.Looks great,it covers the bottle up to the gauge.

Nothing yet, just rumors at this point.

I am going to try an put a part two video together tonight that will cover a few more detail. There is a 1/2"-28 threaded barrel on it.

Considering How much Stuff is Made in China, there Might be a "Solvent Trap" that fits...

The thread size is 1/2+28.You will need a custom adapter made for 1/2+20.John Hagen at aerotulz@gmail.com.

The bipod is just a basic aluminum with a picatinny mount. They are very inexpensive on Ebay. Thanks for watching 👍

You need to achieve 3000 psi, you need a specific high pressure pump to achieve that. 😉

I would guess about 60-70. I used a scuba tank so I am not quite sure.

Curtis thanks for your comments! That is a Visionking 1.25-5x26 Rifle scope 30 mm with three-pin German1 Reticle 223 &Rings. You can get it on Ebay for around $80.00. For the money you can't beat it. Amazing quality.

@@AirgunDetectives Thank you!

Hand Pumps Suck, even though they were Good Enough for Lewis and Clark to Impress the Native Americans with 25 rounds of "Strong Magic" No BS. Better get an Electric Unit

That is is a backyards plinker and maybe good for pest control. I wouldn't go after anything larger than a rat. Too bad they could have designed a real performer!

I would say the Virtus, it is .22 caliber and much more powerful, but hold off until I review the newest model. Not sure of the updated performance.

So true.. looking forward to reviewing the upgraded version. Thanks for watching 👍

The First Strike 13ci Floating Air Stock from ANSGEAR.com is a adjustable LOP buttstock that fits and looks great.For a moderator you will need a custom one made to go from the 1/2+28 firearm threadsize to 1/2+20 which is the standard airgun size.Contact John Hagen at aerotulz@gmail.com to make your adapter.He made mine and it came out very nice.He is on the DonnyFL website under adapters.

Yes. That all-black UK tank has kept me wondering about it all this time.. Yet any info of what that UK tank's regulator output pressure actually is? Just read so many 7-9fpe mentions of the UK Virtus, that I think they did not get an 1100psi reg output...

Hi Mike, I addressed several issues and was informed by their engineers they would be addressing them. The new version should be released by this summer. But don't hold your breath. I should be receiving one to test from Sig as soon as they are ready. But they will only be selling the updated models. Be patient is should be worth the wait👍

@@AirgunDetectives Does this mean we will have to buy a whole other rifle??? What about those that have already shelled out for the first version?

@@thirtynotsixspringfield8503 I would see about returning it or exchanging it for the upgraded model. It should have a warrantee and I would think Sig will honor that.

I would be returning both of those as defective!🤔

@@AirgunDetectives i have emailed Sig but never got a reply from them, 4 of my colleagues have them exactly with same barrel problem and leaking valve and nowhere to get them nylon seals. Thank you for the advice but the store won't take it back because apparently i voided the warranty by removing the barrel 🤔 Keep up the good work buddy 😊👍👍👍

@@luisferreira633 don't let that go...Sig should honor that just don't mention removing the barrel.😉👍

@@AirgunDetectives will try again. Thank you so much 👍👍

Hey Lamar, I appreciate you watching and thanks for the comments 👍

It still won't shoot in a straight line!

Sounds like a Good Prospect for a Trigger Swap

Actually, it works better without the pellet seater. Unlike the .177 Co2 MCX version. Just push the pellets in flat and it is ready to go! I tested it with many pellets using the seater and without. The accuracy was no different but I found with several pellets the seater would push the pellets in too far and cause a jam. So it worked flawlessly without the tool. I should have covered that!! Thanks for watching 👍

@@AirgunDetectives that response is really interesting, which leads me on to ask, does the non seating of the pellets account for the rather heavy trigger pull? Does the pellets you recommend have a softer or thinner/wider skirt?

@@harryzero1566 I actually tested the trigger pull on camera with the belt removed from the magazine. I was totally surprised that trigger registered at 9 lbs. I tested it about 6 separated times with and without the magazine with the same results. You would never guess that trigger was even close to that weight. There is just one very short heavy spot in the beginning of the pull then it lightens up before you go to the release point and the gun fires. That is why the trigger weight is so deceiving.

The pellet that works the best, GTO, is made of an alloy rather than lead. The skirts maintain their shape better than the lead after they are pushed into the belt. The belt actually causes small cuts or grooves in the pellet skirts. That causes an unbalanced trajectory and affects the accuracy. I am going to modify a belt and attempt to reduce the groves. I think I can improve the accuracy. If successful I will do another video showing how to accomplish this.

@@AirgunDetectives those answers are so cool, I think the lighter pellets pellets up the power to reach the marketed power., with Sig air guns this is so often the case. It would be interesting to know what the power is with 14-16 grain pellets. 10+ ft lbs I bet. I am now a subscriber.

I have not tested that model. I know it uses a lot of air. But Hatsan makes some good products. Thank you for watching 👍

Ed...looks like they are going to update the performance on this rifle. Look at my comments under the video section I just posted today. You might want to consider returning it and wait for the updated model this summer. Just a thought.

@@AirgunDetectives got mine maybe a week ago. Is it safe to say that mine was the updated version?

@@vangoghaway626 Yes...The batch that was released has the updates. The 2nd batch will have the same updates but a meatier stock. I have not personally inspected the new batch, but per Sig they have been updated. The key test will be the accuracy. Let me know how yours performs with lead pellets.

@@AirgunDetectives meatier stock as in butt stock?

@@AirgunDetectives i'm not likely to have an opportunity to shoot it anytime soon, but I wanted to scoop it up before it goes back on backorder. lol

That's physically impossible for this design.

Dream on dreamer.

You need a Higher Pressure Valve and Some Sort of Lightened AR Trigger, yes REAL AR Parts...

You can use any high pressure hand pump, tank or compressor that will produce 3000 psi. There are many out there.

Look on Ebay. You need the M-Lok style picatinny rail. I did have to use longer bolts but they are a basic metric 3 or 4 mm. 😉👍

@@AirgunDetectives if your bipod mount has a rail, you can use cable ties that slot in the grooves and thread through the mlok slots.

@Rachel,Greeting from Upstate NY!!! I’m originally from the York/Kittery area👍🏻👍🏻🍀🍀👍🏻👍🏻

It's Actually the Same Hardware for A REAL AR

Yes, it is absolutely safe to store with a full tank.👍

My contact at Sig is no longer there so it is difficult for me to get information. They simply barely respond. I can only go by the information that was provided which I did post. They were supposed to send me an updated version but I'm not holding my breath. So without testing it I cannot confirm any changes were made.

@@AirgunDetectives Thanks for the quick response. I'm new to air rifles but not SIG. Is a moderator/suppressor necessary for backyard use? I live in TX but there are still neighbors who may not appreciate "pop pop", if you no what I mean. If so, is there a brand/model you can recommend like you did with the VisionKing scope? (which was also helpful advice).

For a moderator you are going to need a custom adapter.DonnyFL does not make them because that is the firearm thread size and he stays away from them.Contact John Hagen at aerotulz@gmail.com.He is on Donnys website.He made one for my Virtus and it came out great.Adapter will be 1/2+28 to 1/2+20 for standard thread size moderators.

Good to know...are you talking about tightening the barrel sleeve after you remove the muzzle brake? Also read the comments I just released today. It's under the video in the description portion. Sig will be addressing some issues and releasing a revamped model this summer.

I would have never guessed it was a 9 lb. trigger. I would have guessed 5 at the most. That belt is light and smooth so it is just the mechanism. I tested the trigger without the magazine with the same results. But, I kid you not, it is pretty smooth. No adjustment but I would guess it will get even smoother in time.

@@AirgunDetectives Awesome. Thanks again. Great channels and yes the Virtus has "fun" written all over it

Mine leaks air now if the tank is attached to the rifle and I only have 500 rounds through it. When they advertise FPS, this is the case with many manufacturers, they use alloy pellet or a really light lead pellet. So your common pellet does not achieve the claimed FPS. The more I studied this rifle it is not built on a PCP platform. It is designed on a Co2 platform and adapted to shoot in a PCP style. Regardless, when it is functioning it is really fun to shoot.

The co2 versions often stop firing due to the firing pin popping outta place. (The pin is just pushed in there by force. I think no glue has been used). As a result all seems good - but no gas get released. Then you often can hear the pin rattling inside of the gun. Happened to my own MCX once too. Easy fix though. The Virtus can also leak. Many do not lube them due them being classed as a PCP rifle. But some drops of silicone oil into the rear of the Virtus before attaching the tank will keep the valve lubed and working all good. No need to lube that often though. I've now shot about 2500-3000 shots thru my Virtus and I've been all good. I have though had the Virtus apart lots of times - but mainly for other reasons (plain interest at first - and later on some power and trigger tuning etc). But the Virtus has worked way well for me at least. I have not put mine away ever since I got it (probably 4 months ago, maybe). A way awesome can killer!

@@AirgunDetectives I have had mine for about 18 months now and have put hundreds and hundreds of pellets through it and just recently I noticed that the pressure was dropping when left for a week or so.

There is always room for more than one. But lets wait and see if they actually made some significant changes.

Heavier Pellets are Available for. 177, its the Same thing

Luis Longoria I should have said “ big fingers - small ammo” lol. But thank you for the info.