True I am and will continue to be afraid of thumb positions. Tenor clef is honestly what I [prefer to] use when playing on A and upper D strings, and bass clef for anything lower.
@@phil_leoui I completely agree. I'm an intermediate cellist and I can read treble clef as I am a singer, but I guess the positions are just something to work on.
@@carolinekeen3370 very true. My fingers are not long enough which sometimes makes it difficult to even play in extended positions. Try 5th, 6th, and 7th positions. It’s painful 😂
@@phil_leoui i get really annoyed when scores dont switch to tenor or treble after 3-4 ledger lines. Learning new clefs is way easier in the long run because ledger lines are just confusing to look at. (poor violins)
TwoSet: "Cello gang, so much respect for your clef changes. And piano players" "This one's for you guys, cello gang. And anyone with the bass clef and the tenor clef." Also TwoSet: *neglects to acknowledge violas* Me: I don't know what I expected
@@xeroze01 piano sight reading is so hard because you also have to look at your Fingers for big jumps ive played the piano for a decade now and i still cant really sight read anything xD
@@nathanlee4637 we don't get to use tenor often, in fact I feel like we're more likely to see a c-clef. But really we mostly need treble and bass for piano, anything more is reaching for some new heights lol
Twoset: *Struggles to read bass clef* My mom: *Plays the violin but taught herself to to learn the bass clef to help me play the cello when I was three*
@@sapphireblue4031 Probably the fact that he's with a violin instead of a piano. Heavily practiced actions can become very context dependent. For almost 15 years his brain has been trained to see those notes a certain way while playing a violin.
Welcome to our world ;-) Having to read in three clefs, *which can change at any time* , is why cellists hug their instruments. Love is what gets us through...
YES!!!!!!!!!! WOOT! I've been learning the cello for five years now and I felt proud to know I knew every piece here and had played most of them. I am a serious adult learner who is beyond infatuated with the cello, it has literally become my life. If it weren't for COVID-19 I would have played the first movement of the Saint-Saens cello concerto #1 this weekend with my local orchestra. Twoset did a great job considering they do not have to switch between three clefs on a daily basis as I do, Piano gang I am sure feels me, having to read two lines and clefs at the same time let alone having it change as well! I'd like to see them do this again with the levels readjusted maybe XD For anyone who loves the cello and just wants some awesome cello to listen to I have plenty of recommendations! Most of these can be found here on RU-vid as well! My top piece of all time- Dvorak Cello Concerto (46 minutes)-Lyrical, beautiful and a wondrous example of what the cello can really do. I recommend Jacqueline Du Pre for this one as the soloist If you're more into Bach, everyone knows the Prelude to Bach suite 1 for cello, but my personal favorite of the suites is Suite 2, and I recommend you take a listen to the entire 6 suites if you have time Each suite is roughly 30 minutes. I recommend Ralph Kirschbaum for this endeavor. The Beethoven Cello Sonatas (each sonata is around 20 minutes) are all fantastic. I would recommend starting with 3 and 4 and if you want you can listen to all 6. My personal favorite is Sonata 2. Yo-Yo Ma and Emmanuel Ax have a great set of recordings for all of these. The Debussy Sonata (25-30 minutes) they played here is my absolute favorite sonata for cello, it is full of mystique and wonder. It is a fantastical piece in the literal sense of fantasy. Listen to Rostropovich for this one. If you are looking for something more Romantic, Tchaikovsky wrote something called the Rococo Variations (15-23 minutes) for cello and it is the closest we have to a concerto from the great composer. Another Yo-Yo Ma if you wanna watch that one. The interesting thing about the Rococo Variations is they were edited by the dedicated cellist and Tchaikovsky just allowed it despite not liking it. You can hear Tchaikovsky's intended order if you listen to Julian Llyod Weber's composer rendition. If you want speed and technical precision Janos Starker plays the piece in just 16 minutes when it is usually 20-23 minutes long. A quintessential for cello listeners is Jacqueline Du Pre's playing the Elgar Cello Concerto (22 minutes), a beautiful piece full of passion and emotion that so few have come even close to replicating in the way with Jacqueline has. Finally if you want to here a powerful and definitely considered one of the most difficult sonatas for cello the Kodaly Sonata is there for you to listen to! I don't have any recording recommendations, listening to it while amazing also stresses me out XD If you are looking for shorter pieces that are wonderful examples of cello The Swan (Le Cygne) -Saint-Saens (Too many good recordings , Yo-Yo Ma, Jacqueline Du Pre, and many others. This one is one to explore and find your own favorites!) Elegie -Faure (I would recommend Jacqueline Du Pre) Oblivion arranged for Cello and Bandoneon- Piazolla (I would recommend the Ophelie Gaillard recording) Ave Maria -Bach & Gounod (I would recommend the Yo-Yo Ma and Kathryn Stott recording from the album Songs from the Arc of Life) Was it a Dream? Op 37. No. 4 -Sibelius (You can also find this piece on the same album as above) Apres Un Reve -Faure (You can also find this piece on the same album as above) Beau Soir -Debussy (You can also find this piece on the same album as above) If you want to hear the Allegro Appasionato by Saint-Saens they sight read, it is a very nice piece. You can find a video here on RU-vid of Jacqueline Du Pre playing it as a teenager and it is pretty sweet!
Jokes aside, you're menthally limited to the right side of brain, when right eye is covered. And you're limited to left side of brain when left eye is covered
Brett and Eddy: sight reads bass clef in Allegro Me, a pianist: if you can play it quickly, you can play it slowly... I can’t read that fast! Slow down!
One time my orchestra played a piece where we (cellos) were doing these arpeggios and I'm not joking it was one measure of bass then tenor then treble then tenor then bass then tenor then treble etc. Only one measure of each. I have never seen such shenanigans in my entire life.
@@wyej cellist and pianist here, cellists encounter 3 clefs far earlier and much more commonly than pianists encounter 3 staves. It really messes with your head when it changes because you have to re-calibrate almost the same space in your brain vs when I play with 3 staves I am keeping track of the 3 separate staves as separate things if that makes sense.
As a cellist, you get used to switching clefs a lot. Tenor is honestly my favorite clef. The worst is when you have to read treble but play an octave down from where it's written. It sits one line away from what it would be in tenor, and it's really annoying. I count that as it's own clef, so I think most cellists read 4 clefs regularly.
TwoSet: Reads bass clef as treble clef Me, a pianist: Imagine reading both at the same time- Edit: Ik they can play piano guys, but they obviously main the violin
I'm a pianist but i'm terrible at sight reading. But I could certainly read the bass clef better then them. I FINALLY ACCOMPLISHED. I CAN SIGHT READ BETTER THAN BRETT AND EDDY.
A beginner cellist: Hey can you help me read this? It looks like the clef that you read Me, a violist: um sure let me see Cellist: *Gives music* Me: Oh um that’s Tenor clef, I don’t read that clef very much. All I can tell you is that the note in the middle of the clef is C Cellist: aww Me: O_O -_- O_O
Violinists: “I can’t play bass clef, this is too hard.” Pianists: “you can only play treble clef? I can play both at the same time.” Cellists: “amateurs”
Well, I would put pianists and cellists on the same podium because pianists play both keys at the same time, the keys also switch, and cellists play multiple keys, but not at the same time so I guess that's even :D
tenor is not very hard to understand, its just a 5th up which is a string higher on a cello. i have never seriously touched treble clef and i have been playing for almost 8 years now, i am too scared
@@emerald6597, you need to go somewhere up in the thumb positions to get any benefit from the treble clef. I haven't played music written in treble clef either, but when I get to several helplines in tenor clef intonation starts to get tricky.
@@TheGlassgubben Yeah it's only if you're spending a lot of time around the D5 range and higher that treble clef is useful. Too many ledger lines in tenor clef.
It's awesome to have the sheet followed, with the ulterior markings for mortals that don't play. My knowledge is limited to following direction of notes IF it's slow enough, forget modifiers or detecting skipped eight- or smaller notes.. :) this is really user friendly, and makes it more accessible. And takes a good eye and post editing work. Thanks.
Alternative title: Brett and Eddy struggling but being better than me Edit: mom, dad, today i will stop school to start being a famous person who write funny comments
you could try sightreading music for wind instruments while holding your breath! that should be fun haha in particular it would be fun to watch it with the strauss oboe concerto!
Just wait until y’all hear about false treble clef aka Dvorak clef. It’s treble clef but you play it an octave lower than it is written for some damn reason. It truly is the devil.
Don't tenor vocalists do that too? Their parts are written in treble but are sounded an octave lower because of their range. Not sure though, would appreciate if someone could clarify. It's a treble clef with a little 8 underneath.
@@chloejackson-reynolds418 I'm a trombonist so my tenor clef is almost as good as my bass. My alto clef, however is horrendous. I've managed to stumble by because it hardly ever pops up.
brassholio im pretty sure that’s how it works. however, i sing tenor in a community choir and i don’t have any formal training. we either do that or just sing in bass clef, just depends on what the arranger does with the piece
True, but anyway, he s always handsome: long hair, short, with or without glasses. On the contrary of what he usually stands for ( I wish I were attractive, don't laugh about the goggles, etc...) I think it's pretty obvious to most of us he is...more than charming ;)
They spend almost the entire clip hunched over, trying to get closer and closer to the score. Then at around 10:50, during the Debussy, Eddy just stands up in total frustration. A total wtf gesture. Cracked me up.
Musicians: Sight reading Classical music is hard sometimes, but the more you practice you get better Non musicians: Sight reading K-pop lyrics is hard, the more you listen you will get better. Jazz musicians: Sight reading is a thing of the past
12:22 Piano players are indeed laughing. If sightreading changing cleffs was hard imagine sightreeding 2 cleff at the same time that can also change cleff half way through. Wonderful.
