@@CundoBolsoLS9 I mean, if you take a look at the author of American Psycho, satire is kinda his thing (great book btw definitely recommend the read). Also even besides the "sigma male" of Patrick Bateman, it's still weird to romantise a murderer just sayin 🤷♂️
@@mage4423 Its satire but I don't know if its on masculinity. Felt more like a satire on the wealthy elite if anything. I loved the movie. And I don't think its anything new romanticising a murderer. Hell, the Joker has his own set of movies. It was hilarious to hear Patrick's monologues and how ridiculous they were. It was one big irony the entire time. I mean, its a movie not a documentary. Its a break from watching a virtuous hero save the day for the 1 millionth time. Just a unreasonably evil spoiled brat have the most ridiculous opinions and do the stupidest things.
I don't believe in pseudoscientific crystal witchcraft or whatever either but u give the sigma shit too much credit 💀 it's even less legitimate than those things
@@jout738 it's kinda a trust me which has spread so much, they just take some traits make them sound cringey except for having a category to shit on and name it using some popular greek letters. Finding some traits in one doesn't necessarily mean this shit is true.
I thought the same... sigma's are not getting weirder. This video is coming from a guy who looks like he works for the geek squad at best buy. Check out his background
You think i work at Walmart. But i'm a sigma. That's what i want you to believe. I actually work a 12 minute drive down the road from there. Or do i? Maybe i'm unemployed. Maybe i'm behind you right now. Think again. that was just a ruse. I actually work at Walmart again. Or do i? That's the strength of the Sigma, he is unpredictable. If you respond to this comment i won't respond back.
Загреб нам је далеко, Сарајево још даље, па вам Србин поздрав по гранати шаље Српску гранату Божја рука води, тамо где је пошаљемо она и погоди Зеницу не видимо, Тузла у даљини, ал' граната погађа, Србине не брини Српску гранату Божја рука води, тамо где је пошаљемо она и погоди Ја већ жалим душмане, тешко ли је њима, јер српска граната, к'о да очи има Српску гранату Божја рука води, тамо где је пошаљемо она и погоди *SRPSKU GRANATU BOŽIJA RUKA VODI*
@@maschaorsomethingit wasn't. It was a joke about "weak" men. Then people started to unironically call themselves sigma. And it's kinda embarrassing ngl
@@maschaorsomethingthe term sigma male was used to make fun of and exaggerate alpha male losers at first, but then people started using the term unironically, which is hilarious if u think about it
Hmmm, you could probably benefit from a GNC membership then, buy enuf supplements and membership is TOTALLY worth it then, plus girls really dig guys who use chromium picolinate because it makes them mirror shiny like a old car bumper😂jk
Using Patrick Bateman will never stop being hilarious because the character is literally the exact opposite of Alpha and Sigma in every way. Even the “sigma face” is completely wrong because the face came from Bateman getting his feelings hurt lmao
I don't need to tell stories about how badass I am. I ate at Taco Bell and did NOT have any digestive issues afterward. Nobody can exceed that level of badassery. Period.
As someone who was relentlessly bullied as a child, this really sounds like a power fantasy with belief in revenge potential; people who were hurt, even traumatized, “gaining strength” in an echo chamber.
im glad others are seeing this. these are the people who , instead of drawing out their pain , writing it out , or otherwise punching a tree until they felt better they chose to go nuclear. my dad was like this. its so obvious to see when youre familiar with it. its cringey little boy revenge porn thats all
I was in those spheres lot before they were called “sigma” (I’m not anymore) and this is 100% accurate. By and large, they’re guys who were picked on or physically abused/assaulted in middle school/high school who correctly recognized that bad things were done to them, but incorrectly project that on the world being against them instead of bullies being bullies. Because that’s easier than doing the necessary internal work of processing that trauma. It’s why so many of them idolize school shooters like Harris and Klebold; they falsely believe that they “fought back,” when really they attacked everyone. It’s sad really.
I love the fact that there even is a sigma male community. Its like there is a community of "lone wolves" having a circlejerk of how cool it is to be a "lone wolf"
I’m a sigma mail. I’m shipped where I want, when I want, and I don’t need a return address. Most people think my small size and unassuming design make me weak, but by the time they know the real me, I’ve already exploded😤
What you fail to understand is that alpha males need to be stoic because we carry out some of the most dangerous missions fathomable. You wouldn't understand because you're at home streaming Roblox on Twitch.
They are young and in a identity crisis. They are like me 10 years ago in school thinking smoking weed is a personality trade. Hopefully they will figure it out
I'm happy you're out here making content like this. These kids are struggling socially and it will cost them. Hearing someone explain it to them from a reasonable perspective might help them snap out of it and put them on a different path.
Someone called me a sigma male once... I responded by silently cursing them from the shadows with my powerful words which worked their way into their brain and made them develop various debilitating mental illnesses that caused them to take their own life. Do not underestimate me. Do not call me a sigma male.
Ex alpha male here, as my kingdom fell and my peers decided to move on to an other tribe on a differe side of the city, i knew i had to change something. I needed to be a sigma male. My alpha ways had destroyed my dignity and soul. Now iam the most superior sigma. I am SIGMAUTISTIC
I think the only people allowed to call themselves dangerous, are those people that climb those HUGE towers to change like 1 lightbulb. those guys are the real tough guys.
It’s not just males who are sigmas. I’m a sigma female; dangerously unpredictable, secretly manipulating everyone from the shadows, always on my guard against the many alphas who wish to attack and undermine me… …on an unrelated note I have a Cluster B personality disorder.
It's more like "society thinks I'm shy but I am actually badass because I am sneaky and strategic".Sigma is someone who is confident in themselves and authentic at least to me.
*makes awkward sex joke in a new friend group and nobody laughs* “Little did they know that he intended to command the room with silence. Laughter is easy, but enduring a cold awkward stare is what reveals the true strength of one’s character and perseverance.”
*Makes a racist joke and nobody laughs: *i was simply attempting to create a humorous enviroment and had planned to see which person would understand my comedic genius*
Heh... i've been known to say "excetra excetra" just to confuse people and then slip a serrated shiv between there ribs when they're caught off guard. I even intentionally misspelt "their" to fuck with your mind. Heh... consider yourself outwitted. You better watch yourself around me I'M FUCKING PSYCHO.
I think the more accurate progression of sigma male as a concept is: 1. The same people into alpha and beta males start believing something called Sigma males and it becomes the big new thing in that community 2. People start making fun of them 3. People make memes making fun of it and calling things “Sigma” ironically 4. Stupid people take it unironically and start seeing “Sigma” as a good thing 5. More and more people see it as a genuine unironic thing that exists
@@insertnamehere7228 while people fight for the Alpha and Beta labels, Sigma does not even care. He needs no labels or attention, he is Sigma, he has things to do
This sigma male stuff feels like how I would have turned out if I had never grown up enough to let go of the revenge fantasies I had against my middle school bullies
Yeah I'll never understand how adults can act like this, this entire topic of types of male revolves entirely around self confidence which for a lot of young men is discovered in high school. Even if people aren't comfortable witht hemselves there are ways to change that that don't involve subscribing to some cult philosophy
What I get from all these cool sigmas is, they ''hit'' you when you're not looking. And without taking responsibility for it after. So they're scheming turncloaks.
Last week I unironically heard someone describe himself as a sigma male to impress a girl and he seemed so impressed with himself (she was so confused). I laughed so hard to myself.
@@documentarydistributor Hindsight tells the harsh truth. Not gonna lie I laughed pretty hard at that. Glad it didn’t last long. We all do something corny.
As a sigma male, sometimes I release a silent fart, and blame it on the dog. My dog never knew what hit him, and in an instant I had created the circumstances that turned his day upside down. I planned many steps ahead, and struck with such impeccable precision, pushing just hard enough that the fart was released at just the right moment, narrowly avoiding shitting myself by the finest of margins. I am like a stealth bomber in the night, silently unleashing my payload onto my unsuspecting victims from the shadows, and when the dust settles my canine opponent is left holding the bag of shame. (I don't have a dog).
Keep it up and you’ll run into the wrong sigma dog someday. You’ll have no idea what hit you until you discover the present he left for you in your new fancy slippers.
No, it's not a joke, he really is a sigma male, sigma males are traditionally opposed to talking to women for no money, and crying is a way of releasing the build up of tension that comes with the highly stressful knowledge of the power he holds but the responsability that binds him to not mutilate the person that underestimated him because he must use that energy for the grind@@miruxa. , that's the truth
I gotta thank Charlie. I’m only 15, and last year I was going down the rabbity hole of sigma males. Until I started watching Charlie. He actually saved me from a life of embarrassment and disappointment lol
All jokes aside, I hope you have people around you that care about you and don’t make you feel bad about yourself and what you enjoy. Teenage years are hard enough without these weird labels and it’s easy to isolate yourself and fall down these rabbit holes that lead to resentment. Big internet hugs from this random stranger on the internet.
I love how every new "Greek Letter"-male gets more specific what their signature traits are. I'm an epsilon male, my pen spinning is overwhelming, and I can eat anything that is sour cream onion flavored even rocks
Wow, now I really want to be an Epsilon male like you. Can you coach me, I'm willing to spend 18k on a 3-day sour cream onion flavored rock eating camp.
As a weird loner, I think it's okay to just be a weird loner. You don't need to trick yourself into believing that you're actually really cool and scary, and you definitely don't need to prove it to others. What they think about you and your way of life doesn't matter if it's not harmful. What matters is that you're happy living your life the way you are. If you actually want people to like you, but you're socially inept, giving yourself an edgy persona that implies you're better than everyone around you does not do you any favors.
Remember Alpha, Beta, Sigma whatever is it. If you a man you gonna get insults for everything and anything and if something bad happens is ur fault. You wanna talk about men's mental health ? You're an incel and probably hates all women.
I think this is sound advice for a lot of young introverts too. Many of them, along with their peers, think they need to open up and magically become a social butterfly... When it's okay to be introverted and quiet. You just need to own up to it. We see this a lot in media too where the quiet kid suddenly opens up and becomes social as a means of development. I've only seen a few shows that do the opposite where the extroverted friend(s) learn to respect the introvert's preferences. Like having chill kickbacks with the boys instead of loud house parties. That's how it should go unless the introvert has genuine social issues that need to be worked out. I'd also like to point out that introverted =\= socially inept or awkward. If you are, you should work that out. The internet promotes what I like to call "toxic introversion." It's when introverts act like they're all misunderstood geniuses being held down by Big Extrovert™. Because of that, some of them take a weird sense of pride in being socially inept. As if it makes them better because extroverts are all just brainless party animals who lack the human nuance of introversion. That kind of crap. It's all over the internet.
Ngl I kind of understand the whole “sigma male” craze/obsession. When you spend enough time alone/without close relationships you either get very depressed or (in my case) very cold. It’s a defense mechanism, even if it’s not healthy.
Seriously had thought the “sigma male” thing was just an ironic joke but finding out so many people actually find this stuff relatable and unironically like it is crazy
@@Kopeleto its not just a religion at this point, its more of a cult where people we're thrown out of society and are now searching for revenge by filling their egos with these ""motivational"" videos.
@@victoryan4008except that astrology is rooted in ancient history, esoteric cultural practices, astronomy, sacred geometry, mythology and mathematical calculations, so it's actually even more interesting and nuanced than this bullshit 😭 at least it's complex and layered
Reminds me of that video of that kid getting picked on and he says “remember if they stand behind I protect them but if they stand in front me I show them no mercy”
For someone who is supposed to not care and go their own way, they spend a lot of time thinking about how other people percieve them and how they fit into a typology system that is fundamentally about a crude idea of a social heirarchy. All of this comes across as incredibly neurotic.
It reminds me of the whole "aesthetic" and "-core" thing where the tumblr users make moodboards and playlists and wear clothes and eat foods and post quotes and lyrics that all fit the aesthetic of their blog. Trying to arrange their thoughts, beliefs, material interests, their way of moving through the world, or at least their social media presence, cohesively into a theme, based on a curated, simulated, represented, facet of reality, that they got from some piece of content they saw. They identify a certain lens through which to present their life, their followers see the perfect pictures, then wish to see out of that lens in actual life. And then there's the people who just come up with the "aesthetic", all they do is aggregate them on a big list and categorize every object and behavior on earth as being part of a certain lifestyle. They romanticize every fabricated feelingsworld they can think of as an ideal reality (even extreme ones like bimbo, proana, traumacore) that could maybe exist if one were to just rearrange everything they do, wear, think, feel, surround themself with, eat, and listen to so it would fit the criteria. The alpha sigma whatever personality obsession, and the ideology/identity obsession, too, is all the same thing. Rather than just experiencing their real life authentically, some people want the approval of the anons who fell into the same algorithm as them, because their life is defined by what they like. And so they collage a dream life out of the fake lives which appeal to them most or that they are shown the most.
IT IS ALL ABOUT SELF CONFIDENCE. It is young men, or maybe some adults, who lack self confidence, and instead of taking healthy steps to confront it they subscribe to some elitist philosophy and convince themselves its not them its everyone else, and that their inability to manage social interactions is a good thing and makes them special.
I've got a friend who unironically relates to various idols of the "sigma male" community. I feel like a parent figuring out that their kid is a gooner.
I’m constantly walking up to ppl & telling them wether they’re unassuming or assuming. One time tho I told someone he was assuming but he told me no! He was unassuming 🤯
As a smegma male, i refuse to take showers. As a result my smegma scent has grown so strong that my opponents know to back the hell off once they catch wind of me, literally.
It basically boils down to “They all think I’m a loser but someday they’ll all see…” it’s sad really “sigma males”. We all love you, just get over yourselves and let your walls down. Allow yourself to find good close friends and have good experiences.
@@weaselxx u gotta be a loser dawg. i still hang out with my some of my friends from around 2nd grade and we're all seniors in high school now. my dad still talks to some of his friends from hs, so friends def arent temporary.
The fact these guys are putting Patrick Bateman from American psycho in a video that’s basically displaying how they want to be perceived is pretty wild
It’s all about jawline and wearing a suit, yes I’m a gentlesir with class rather than being a boooooy. One small nudge above wearing a fedora to look like a 50’s detective. They’re stoic and cool, tapping into the secret matrix that no one around them understands. The badass psychopath is just misunderstood I swear
@@na-ky8ou Maybe I'm a fucking idiot and misunderstood parts of the movies but when he shouts at the bartender saying he's going to kill her or some shit she just is deadpan like he didn't say anything at all, and his lawyer says he had lunch with Paul Allen who shouldn't be having lunch because he's dead and Bateman shoots a man and the police but then just continues about the rest of the movie, if police where shoot at and fucking exploded you think that wouldn't go down queitly
@RealistChair thats why it is ABSOLUTELY ABSOLUTE, but i pretty much have it , and it feel low key close, even tho when i got called sigma as a joke i get "the ick" ...
If anybody thinks "sigma" is a thing, it's a sign they want this fantasy to exist, which then means, they are insecure and uncomfortable being themself. Which is super sad to see.
Charlie was a Sigma male in high-school, being an anime villain and not talking to anyone, before Sigma males were a thing. Way ahead of everyone, as usual.
As a Sigma male in college, i always submit my assignments 2 weeks late. Not because i am lazy or incompetent but because i only need a day or 2 to write the whole thing so I put it off until i feel like writing it. Dangerous does not even begin to describe my intellect. Look upon me and DESPAIR
Bro... teach me to be like you. I've always wanted a mentor to teach me the ways of the sigma grindset and become the ultimate sigma male. I want people to tremble in fear with just a glance of my hard and cold gaze
@@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger Look at you. Thinking youre oh so "cool" and "deep". Chi males are not even a step ahead of lambda males. They are multiple parrallel universes ahead of them. We are like the silence before the storm, that never comes...
This video actually saved my life. I was planning on starting a fight with my sigma coworker, because I took his quiet demeanor and brooding intensity as signs of weakness.
There's a term for this in Japanese--chuunibyou (literally "8th grader syndrome"). It's their version of being an edgelord or MC syndrome, though it's usually accompanied by pretentious anime fantasy tropes. Charlie had it right, it seems these sigma males are all trying to be mysterious and cool like Batman. It's a very adolescent thing. (The currently airing anime "The Eminence in Shadow" has a really good example of that kind of character. Some of the comments could have been lifted straight from the protagonist's inner thoughts.) Now the thing that sigma males say they want to be--a self-assured person who doesn't care what other people think and can't be easily intimidated and is underestimated--is a worthwhile thing to pursue. But it usually takes life experience and maturity to get to that point, as well as a really strong inner sense of one's values. When you know what you want and what you stand for in life, it's much easier to move through life confidently and without fear of others' approval and judgment. And if you know you are strong, you don't need to be flexing it all the time, but hold it in reserve until it is needed. Insofar as these sigma guys are trying to go in that direction and not towards violence or psychopathy, I'd cut them some slack. Most of them still seem to be figuring it out. It's not supposed to end there though.
Yup, when I heard the first comment I was like, "OMG this is Chuuni as F". Eh, nothing wrong with being Chuuni IMO. Is it Cringe, yes, but no harm IMO unless you truly believe in it irl or something. (This is just internet shiposting roleplay so)
@BlueRaven28Pushing your body to the limit and working out is now "incel behavior" and "toxic masculinity", whatever those girls with funny hairs may mean with that.
Had a friend that truly started calling himself sigma and I laughed everytime he was serious, it’s just so weird and uncomfortable for someone to talk about themselves like this, super narcissistic.
It’s hilarious however he might need help. I’ve been going through the commenrs a lot and at least the people who’ve been through this phase found it to be a coping mechanism for their self esteem, I think your friend needs to find actual, positive ways that’ll boost his mental health. It’s sad to see that the Internet promotes this delusional persona so much though.
I too have a good friend who considers himself a sigma. He believes he is the most successful guy in town yet he doesn't even have a job... We just let him enjoy himself.
In the context of the video Penguinz features this sounds more like _"Edgelords but with smarts"._ So nothing new. Those people were around forever and will be around forever.
I learned the hard way, when a guy verbally describes himself to you as an "alpha" or "sigma", you should walk away immediately. Its such a red flag for so many cringe, weird, unnecessarily aggressive behaviors from them very early on and I dont have time for that foolishness.
If they’re just playing then go on with it I guess but to a woman this stuff is one giant red flag. Someone who is prone to snapping or having unpredictable outbursts is exhausting at best and dangerous at worst. And not dangerous in a ‘cool bad boy’ way like they’re hoping, but in like an actual needs professional help way. They think it seems mysterious to repel people until they realize that genuinely no one likes them and no one thinks they’re cool and tough.
Using young boy's insecurities as a cheap way of selling courses and content is not really that funny. Because really the type of people who ironically make this kind of content are usually worse than the "sigma" males they profit from.
What's kinda scary about this whole thing is that I was bullied pretty hard in high school, and I made it out afterwards okay. If I had heard about this whole "sigma male" bullshit while I was in highschool, I probably would have fallen victim to it myself at that time. Kinda weird to think about
When you’re being bullied, it’s almost like you are looking for anything to try to understand who you are. As someone who was also bullied, as you age it’s just easier knowing that the bullies never took a chance to understand you but rather pushed their own insecurities onto you “All this time I’ve realized after moving, my bullies never took the chance to be curious. If they were curious, they would ask me why and how *I got so good at playing darts*. Be curious, not judgmental” All the best ❤
Yeah same. I was bullied as well and always rejected by women, which led me into a incel mindset of hating all women and people around me. That was until I saw a bunch of videos making fun of incels on reddit. Those videos genuinely helped me understand how dumb I was.
. . . How the fuck would you have fallen victim to it? What about that little community would’ve victimized you? Lmfao you sound like you could use a community that teaches you not to romanticize being the victim all the time.
were you bullied or were you "bullied" because people in school called me a bully but all i did was talk mad sht. everyone caught strays but certain people thought it was targeted. just stop being so insecure bro unless people picked you up and threw you into a dumpster its not that deep.
As a sigma, lone wolf, omega, alpha male this video was enlightening and inspiring. Thank you Charlie for showing us the error of our ways. *contemplates alone*
It's considerably less effort to gaslight oneself into believing that you are super alpha independent lonewolf, instead of accepting that you just have social anxiety issues. Happened to me as well. 😂
Now I'm no psychologist, but I think being a "sigma male" is a coping mechanism for bully or abuse victims who couldn't stand up for themselves most of their life. So, they put on this persona of being a sigma male that's always "two-steps ahead" and this quiet John Wick like character as a way of protecting themselves from what they perceive as future harm. Hence the "everyone's against me" mentality. It could also be some kind of power fantasy for people who feel they have mundane lives and just want an escape from their boring lives and live this epic action movie hero character they mold as a way of escapism. But at the same time I'm not a professional therapist, so what do I know?
The popularization of guys like Andrew Tate made older guys with solid lives unironically think “sigma/alpha male” was a legitimate thing. I know this great guy, hard worker, has a family, very genuine… Fell into the Tate pipeline and regurgitates sigma male narrative. It’s really sad imo. But who am I to judge him? He’s living a better life than me rn
As someone who has grown up in an abusive household and as someone diagnosed with CPTSD, I can confirm that you feel like everyone is out to get you and you just create random scenarios in your head where you conveniently light yagami people, just to feel a little more in control. I hope these young men can find help and hope.
yes i was looking for a comment like this!! there was one post in this video where i was like “that sounds like hyper-vigilance!!!” i have schizoid personality disorder which kind of results in a pathological aversion to other people, sometimes it feels like these posts are just describing what it’s like to be schizoid. we rarely seek treatment so i have to wonder how many of these young men have SzPD without knowing it.
@@gays4holtby110 Oh my god! You're so right! The saddest part is that if they continue down this path they will never even consider that they can seek resources and help.
I wholeheartedly agree with you saying "there's nothing wrong with being normal." People often obsess so much over being unique or different that they forget to be themselves.
Exactly being a sigma is not about trying to be unique but rejecting npc-ness don’t conform to society make your own path don’t be pathetic is the message
@@jar207I’m gonna hit you with some cold water. That’s called deviation from a sub culture. That’s a normal thing to do in a normal life. You’re normal.
You know as someone who is quiet and just observes the stuff and people around him I can safely say it’s not because I’m a sigma. It’s because I’m autistic
Classic sigman male avoiding the label and going his own way. I am your biggest fan. What was it like being born from the clear crystal that is the sky, almost indistinguishable from that which is undoubtedly pure? I wonder about various things in life, but the common denominator is always you. I admire and cherish your confidence to mark your own journey in this time of followers and fakers. Reject the status quo. Accept your individuality. Reality is what you make of it until they disagree. Then it is what they want. You refuse this and must continue to carry the torch, pathing the way for all those who are brave enough to take a single step in the split grass trail where you have run. There are no sigmas. Only those who are free and those who follow. You are the lone heat seeking missile aimed at the hottest element in the universe. You aim for the (T1/1)ruth. Thank you, AaronTobias5243
To me this just sounds like low self esteem. I can relate to this a lot actually, I couldn’t count the amount of times I’ve met someone and immediately seen them as a threat because of my own projecting. I would take little things that they would say and twist them around until I came to the conclusion that they didn’t take me seriously and didn’t like me. When in reality they were being perfectly normal and I was just projecting my own bad feelings towards my self onto them. With this way of thinking I found myself constantly having to deal with, “enemies” and “people who underestimate me” all that shit. When your biggest enemy is your self that’s hard to deal with, so you just see the enemies all around you instead. It’s sad
@@radikalray8510 Still very much a struggle for me but I’m getting better. It sounds cliche but seeking professional help was the best thing I ever did. Therapy is for everyone :)
It's a lot easier to cope with loneliness and insecurity if you tell yourself that you're powerful, that everyone else is wrong, that they just misunderstand or underestimate you. As much as they sound silly I feel kinda bad for them, they're just trying to cope with the curse of life.
Love that he talked about the internets obsession with being cool and scary, and that its okay to be just normal. ive been thinking alot about that over the years