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Silver Has Plummeted: Pull Backs Kill It For Small Dealers
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@Michael-Stacking
@Michael-Stacking 28 дней назад
I just bought 2 rolls of mercs. I'm happy 😊
@tomsrandomness
@tomsrandomness 28 дней назад
This is why I understand dealers buying at below spot. You assume all the risk and have to make offers based on said risk.
@MarkA-Coins
@MarkA-Coins 28 дней назад
Thanks Daniel. I agree with you. You cant have money and inventory tied up and lose on it. You have to do what you have to do. It's allot of work keeping an eye on spots then taking time to buy or sell. I figured it would pull back back a bit but was hoping it wouldn't go below $30. Now that it has, I do believe it will go a bit further down. I don't live off numismatics so I hang on to it, your case is much different. Nothing more then what I like to see is an honest hard working person like you to succeed and provide.
@Tyrock67
@Tyrock67 28 дней назад
Investing in silver bullion involves taking risks. I used to speculate as a collector and now, as a small dealer, I buy it and sell it making a small profit on each transaction. Much better this way. Dollar cost averaging is a great idea. You buy a little each week and just keep buying regardless of spot price.
@mamoulian9464
@mamoulian9464 28 дней назад
I dont trust the spot prices, just stick to what is comfortable for you as an individual. Look at the spot of 2020 around $12. None of the reputable shops or online dealers had anything in stock until it hit $22 again. Also the real cost is what the premium you pay is.
@Stoonad
@Stoonad 28 дней назад
I don’t trust half these companies that spout greedy nonsense just to like their pockets a little bit more, like some people actually work and struggle to even pick up one coin, coin shop dealers need to be better people .
@RealLifeFinance
@RealLifeFinance 28 дней назад
Yup, best I could get it for during intial Covid was $18. Paid $6 over spot. Hurt a the time.
@skullsplitter3653
@skullsplitter3653 28 дней назад
Locals pull almost everything they have out of their display cases when the price falls off a cliff ... and then when you walk in and ask they tell you they got swamped with buyers and are sold out Price rises and they pull all that inventory from the back room and stuff the cases again
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 28 дней назад
I see a lot of crying here, if you want cheaper silver then become a dealer, it isn't hard at all. Just start buying and selling in your spare time, pick a business name, join coin dealers helping coin dealers, Roundtable, and start buying silver wholesale and then you will actually get to know dealers. Cause commenting like this is nothing more than victimhood. Wholesale buying is out there, but if you don't want to take the risk then you pay the guy who does. Also, @Stoonad, don't tell me about working for a living, I've done that all my life. I've been down to my last nickel at the store and only need one more quarter to buy some salt. Guys like you don't know what you think you know about coin dealers. No matter how bad it got I never got online and blamed dealers for it.
@buyystocks
@buyystocks 27 дней назад
@@CoinHELPu its really easy but they would have to put in some effort .I have a huge network of buyers and a few sellers, if you have good people skills.when they like you ,that can help.
@BillGuyHawaii
@BillGuyHawaii 24 дня назад
Thank you for your industry insights. I value your expertise, time and effort. Excellent presentation. 😊
@silversleuth007
@silversleuth007 27 дней назад
When I stacked, I did not begrudge my LSC making a profit. Profit helps ensure they will be there when you want to buy again. Market Value is a term that I understand.
@808bAler
@808bAler 27 дней назад
I am very fortunate to have a great LCS in my town. When buying from, selling to, or trading with him, I don't ever bring up premiums because he's just a man trying to run an honest business. He needs to make money in order for his business to continue for people like me to continue benefiting from having a place to go transact locally. For these reasons, I am grateful.
@sickntired2059
@sickntired2059 28 дней назад
Don't expect "fairness" when you live on a prison-planet.
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 28 дней назад
Victimhood is a bad place to be, you need to stop listening to yourself and not be a victim. You have control over that. I had to learn that a long time ago. I wasn't born into this.
@sickntired2059
@sickntired2059 28 дней назад
@@CoinHELPu It is what it is.
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 28 дней назад
@@sickntired2059 life is what you make it, some things you can’t control, but you can control your perspectives.
@sickntired2059
@sickntired2059 28 дней назад
@@CoinHELPu Agreed...the information is out there. We just have to keep making the best of a bad situation.
@skullsplitter3653
@skullsplitter3653 28 дней назад
​@CoinHELPu right... most people have no problem learning from other peoples mistakes however they relentlessly fail to learn from their own mistakes
@user-uz5cf4if9q
@user-uz5cf4if9q 28 дней назад
I have a few silver coins, but I make most of my money from clad and Lincoln cents.
@Evom777
@Evom777 28 дней назад
Spot shmot. The price of physical is all that matters. No other commodity based product is tied so closely to the spot price as silver bullion. Enough already.
@1jessetaylor
@1jessetaylor 28 дней назад
Silver is a slow investment.
@mysterybuyer3738
@mysterybuyer3738 28 дней назад
Good thing spot price is for paper contracts not real metals.
@dwrutsgnt4225
@dwrutsgnt4225 28 дней назад
I keep my metals no matter what🤷‍♂️
@flippensweet3
@flippensweet3 28 дней назад
I have also never sold anything in my collection.
@bentonx9063
@bentonx9063 27 дней назад
yes, but you are not a dealer, a dealer of anything goes out of business pretty quickly if they stop selling
@ulexite-tv
@ulexite-tv 28 дней назад
Thanks for the sensible outlook.
@TheSteveBoyd
@TheSteveBoyd 28 дней назад
"Plummeted"? I looked at silver 20 minutes ago and it's hovering around $30 ozt. That's $5 above the usual $25 water mark. Isn't that a *good* thing, overall? I'm hoping that's a new normal. What I *don't* like is that my LCS is only paying 14x face for 90% silver coins when melt is 21.44x - and I have a good relationship with them. At least, I think I do. 🤔
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 28 дней назад
Yes, it plummeted, but not plummeting. $2 down from a week ago is huge in silver.
@buyystocks
@buyystocks 28 дней назад
been waiting for this, ty Dan, everytime $30 hit, it has had a big pullback, the other two times, maybe this will settle $28-$29.yes no one knows.
@5t3phen
@5t3phen 28 дней назад
Silver shakedown is here. Stop losses have been triggered and the dipping point of the key psychological level of $30 has newer institutional investors demoralized. If the copper market can sustain itself even with all the exchange restrictions and raised margin requirements, then we'll be good.
@mojavegold-
@mojavegold- 28 дней назад
As a smaller dealer, you pretty much have to keep an eye on the spot price all day long on trading days. You have no other choice but to bid low and raise premiums whenever the market draws back. As a stacker and collector, at least you have the luxury of allowing yourself to concentrate on a 6-month spot price chart to keep an eye on the long-term price trend. "Don't Panic!".
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 28 дней назад
No panic here, but one does have to watch.
@steveunknown8407
@steveunknown8407 28 дней назад
Silver is a long-term hedge, gold is nice if you know how to read the market, assayer might be more lucrative if you live in a mining district, and have a decent processing center
@flippensweet3
@flippensweet3 28 дней назад
And by the time I am watching it is already back up to 30! It's been all over the place.
@cougarhunter33
@cougarhunter33 28 дней назад
Sounds like a shopping opportunity. I had to give up on my Morgan/Peace collection for a while, was getting priced out.
@tomsrandomness
@tomsrandomness 28 дней назад
I'm working on am interactive collection spreadsheet. This gave me a great idea to add a melt value tab so that I can just plug in melt value and have a formula in place to keep track. My collection has become more and more numismatic than bullion but atleast I'll know the bottom value for the content this way.
@christibare4175
@christibare4175 22 дня назад
That sounds very interesting could you possibly send me example of it so that I can start doing that with my collection?
@ltcrmarsh
@ltcrmarsh 27 дней назад
Great explanation!
@RealLifeFinance
@RealLifeFinance 28 дней назад
I've been investing in silver for nearly 50yrs. Silver has Fast n Furious 10% pull backs and sometimes 20% pull backs. Stackers and Investors please understand LCS Cannot pay spot and stay in business paying spot after a HUGE run up in the silver price. They know 10%-20% pullback is around the corner.
@UneducatedGeologist
@UneducatedGeologist 28 дней назад
I agree, but it stinks on the pull backs dealers increase their sell price over spot. The cheapest I got any silver last 2 years was $23 even though it hit $20.
@buyystocks
@buyystocks 28 дней назад
@@UneducatedGeologist 2018 silver was $15 and selling for $15.50
@RealLifeFinance
@RealLifeFinance 28 дней назад
​@@buyystocksYes I got alot in 2018 and 2019 for $16 to $18. Dealers margins were razor thin
@marymastromauro8164
@marymastromauro8164 28 дней назад
Good info Daniel, thanks
@morgansinner
@morgansinner 28 дней назад
I have the feeling the future's buyers will keep it above $28 till and possibly even after this November election. Even with that when you're selling/buying thousands of ounces per transaction a dollar moves the numbers drastically.
@leovenier1011
@leovenier1011 28 дней назад
Not only a collector but scrap dealer could be a double trouble silver is going down because of industrial output is lower prices are going to crash
@4funrc11
@4funrc11 27 дней назад
I've never found a dealer (coin shop) paying melt. Never!
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 27 дней назад
I pay melt and I know a lot of dealers who do, some over melt.
@davidhull7814
@davidhull7814 28 дней назад
I ONLY INVEST IN CERTIFIED PRE 1933 GOLD PCGS OGH VERY TRUSTED GRADING!!!
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 28 дней назад
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@acousticshadow4032
@acousticshadow4032 28 дней назад
I'm only a podunk Morgan collector, so the hourly price of spot silver is not all that vital to me (yet I check it daily...lol). I have a dozen or so "doubles" from upgrades that I should convert into $$$ for filling other holes in my collection. However, I can't seem to part with them. My Morgans are like a batch of kittens; all different. I'm a goner. All I'm sure of is my slab will either be PCGS or NGC ~ no ANACS or ICG for my grave.😇
@ulexite-tv
@ulexite-tv 28 дней назад
Greetings from another Morganite. Best quote of the the day: "My Morgans are like a batch of kittens; all different." I feel you!
@b-man1232
@b-man1232 28 дней назад
EXACTLY why I buy Numismatic Coins ONLY!!! I could care less what the Silver Spot is!!
@acousticshadow4032
@acousticshadow4032 28 дней назад
Aren't all collectible coins numismatic?🤐
@Phlinn96
@Phlinn96 28 дней назад
With you tbh, I think stacking is like marginally less stupid than bitcoin
@TheWinstonDouble
@TheWinstonDouble 28 дней назад
​@@Phlinn96 Crypto currency is a ludicrous racket if you know how to trade it. I can't wrap my head around it, but I know other people who've done extremely well.
@TheWinstonDouble
@TheWinstonDouble 28 дней назад
I can't hold silver. I'm a spendthrift. I need objects. I've always liked collectables because I know they're always worth some money. So I'm with you on numismatic items only.
@Yankee_Doodle_Stacker
@Yankee_Doodle_Stacker 28 дней назад
Because when SHTF theres going to be people around with money to burn to pay a ridiculous premium over spot for your fancy little coin? thats foolish
@NewbCoinNerd
@NewbCoinNerd 28 дней назад
Every dollar counts to keep the lights on👍👍
@michelemahone
@michelemahone 27 дней назад
I’m going to be closely watching this space! Thank you for this, I know this isn’t investment advice, but I was going to buy right now…until you said it will go down again!
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 27 дней назад
You buy the dips, you don't wait for it to go down. You do this long term, my video is about short term buying and selling for a small coin shop.
@jackson5781
@jackson5781 28 дней назад
This is the dump and the after this is when it's going skyrocket
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 28 дней назад
I've heard that for decades, no one has a crystal ball. It might go back up, but it will pull back again.
@user-wu2pg5zh2r
@user-wu2pg5zh2r 28 дней назад
My LCS has been around for at least 2 generations and 50+ years but provides the most atrocious service that how they stay in business is a mystery to me. You’ll walk in and they will ignore you even though they know you’re there. Then they act like you’re interrupting them and seem irritated and like they want the interaction over asap. Three times over multiple years I’ve had the same experience with them. They don’t do bullion at all and aren’t very competitive with numismatics. The world would be such a much better place if people were nice and courteous.
@stardust949
@stardust949 27 дней назад
siiiigghhhhh...I knew literally nothing about silver stacking at the outset of the plannedemic. I only began to understand a little bit the end of 2021 and moving into 2022. What I've got I'm holding on to for the long haul.
@magoo6475
@magoo6475 28 дней назад
Turd Ferguson said this would happen very recently. He also said silver would be off to the races in short order.
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 28 дней назад
They keep guessing and eventually someone is going to call it, but no one has a crystal ball.
@fifteenbyfive
@fifteenbyfive 26 дней назад
High volatility up and down both ways must be hard to navigate. Especially when the prices move so much in one day, or a fraction of one day, that are no predictors of what the future price will be in a year or 10 years.
@robertjenkins6616
@robertjenkins6616 28 дней назад
I kinda hope it goes back down to less than 18 again so I can stock up some and then hold on to it for a while till it goes back up again
@freekingawwsome
@freekingawwsome 28 дней назад
Thanks @CoinHELPu
@Stoonad
@Stoonad 28 дней назад
It’s kind of greedy when you make money off old people and young people who know nothing on premiums, and then turn around and say oh it dropped a couple dollars it’s so bad for companies…. Mixture of greed and not understanding premiums
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 28 дней назад
Most people who buy and sell silver to me understand premiums, sounds like you don't understand the bullion business. You're more into being a victim than a solution or educating people.
@TheWinstonDouble
@TheWinstonDouble 28 дней назад
They can't provide the service for free. They aren't there to buy your silver. They're there to sell it for you. You walk away cash in hand. They now have to find a bunch of buyers before the price drops. That and keep the lights on/payroll so you have a convenient place to sell your goods. It's a totally fair business. I've been going to people like Daniel my whole life and never felt taken advantage of.
@andrewmacomber1638
@andrewmacomber1638 27 дней назад
And just like that. Silver is back up over 4% today! Over 31 per oz. signs are still bullish for the metals. Long term play for me. ✌🏻❤️🇺🇸🥇🥈🙏🏻🌎
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 27 дней назад
And it will be back down.
@andrewmacomber1638
@andrewmacomber1638 26 дней назад
@@CoinHELPu market fluctuations are to be expected.
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 26 дней назад
@@andrewmacomber1638 never once said they’re not expected. My entire video highlighted that. I guess I am going to have to make more and specific points in my videos because so many seem to misunderstand what I am conveying. I literally show past fluctuations.
@740kelley
@740kelley 28 дней назад
hey Daniel..hope alls well...i mentioned a friend of mine who has a 1776 Continental currency 1$ pewter coin..he's had it since he was like 6yrs old.ill try and email you also..but he's interested in bringing it to you so you can check it out and give him the advice he needs to further his research..and I truly trust you. ..thanks..and like I said I will either email you or call...and it doesn't say copy..size and weight is accurate to the books
@emptyheadbiden8698
@emptyheadbiden8698 26 дней назад
Wow shocker
@ian8762
@ian8762 28 дней назад
Plummeted? $30 was once resistance and now it’s the new support.
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 28 дней назад
It would plummeted below $30 after being at over $32, that is a large swing in silver.
@ian8762
@ian8762 28 дней назад
It’s still up almost 11% over the last 4 weeks. It’s pulled back to 30 twice and it’s holding. Im sure you’ll be just fine in the long run.
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 28 дней назад
@@ian8762 you’re taking the video wrong. I’ve been at this all my life. I will never trust silver. It did this in 2021 and August 2022 it was $18. I know how to survive, my video is short term thoughts and explanations, not me worried and going out of business lol
@user-bh1rq1lk9e
@user-bh1rq1lk9e 28 дней назад
The only saving grace, as in most industries, is that the overall historical trend, is a sweeping upward line (based on the trend for the last 5 years at least)....looking at Silver from 6/9/19 to now and all June pricing values for each year in between, Silver is almost double now what it was back in June of 2019, and the only down year was likely attributable to the Pandemic. Using the rule of 72, that means that Silver as an investment(not as a dealer), seemingly for the last 5 years anyway, has yielded approximately almost 14.5% return.
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 28 дней назад
Look at how silver did after 2011, this last run was Covid fueled and I don't believe sustainable as it never has been. We will see. It dropped to $12.60 an ounce in March 2020 before surging. It's is too manipulated to be predicted.
@Manshara2012
@Manshara2012 27 дней назад
What is your opinion on platinum and palladium? Palladium is currently near 5 year lows. Do you think platinum will ever recover to its historical value at prices greater than gold per ounce, or is half the gold value the expected new normal?
@michaelporter5679
@michaelporter5679 28 дней назад
Great video Daniel! Is the melt price the same as the spot price?
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 28 дней назад
Spot is what silver is now, melt is how much a coin is worth in silver by weight.
@Redwhiteandgold
@Redwhiteandgold 28 дней назад
My LCS buys my silver for $5 under the spot price.
@667hodge
@667hodge 28 дней назад
I'd find a new buyer
@RealLifeFinance
@RealLifeFinance 28 дней назад
Mines been offer $29 ever since it broke $30 and even when it was $32.40. Kinda sucks.
@rdoubled1384
@rdoubled1384 28 дней назад
I don't hear any concerns about when the market goes up though. Don't the up moves offset the down moves over time? Why wouldn't you hedge your position with mini futures contracts to maintain a neutral position so it doesn't matter what the market does (at least down to the contract size of 10oz for gold and 1000oz for silver)?
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 28 дней назад
You haven’t been watching my videos for very long then.
@rdoubled1384
@rdoubled1384 28 дней назад
@@CoinHELPu Yes I did miss your "Price surges in silver make big profits for small dealers" video. My comments are based on what you said in this video with the clickbait title (A sub 10% fall in the price of silver is not a "plummet"). I realize if you aren't smart enough to hedge your positions and you make a large long bet and the market moves against you a 6-8% move can be painful.
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 28 дней назад
"Price surges in silver make big profits for small dealers", that was NOT my video title for any video, so you're mistaken again. Silver DID plummet from $32 to $29.40 and that is billions of ounces being sold off as paper, but still it is a plummet. Also, you did not pay attention to my video, you hear what you want, not what I am actually saying. I can handle any drop, I don't need hedges or paper to do so and I said that in my video. Your comments are too condescending for me. I don't talk to people like that. Typical dealer hating. Always making up something negative.
@fatlostmedia1376
@fatlostmedia1376 27 дней назад
expect way more pull backs especially towards the election if Trump wins silver will pull back to 25. if he loses and infaltion keeps steady expect it to stay at 30
@gptp1017
@gptp1017 27 дней назад
Plummeted? I don't think that means what you think it means. Still over $30. That's hardly a plummet. There are always pullbacks as people take profits. Never a straight line in either direction. Silver is manipulated by big banks. You can't win against them short term. Long term is different.
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 27 дней назад
In 5 days it went from $31.42 to $29.38, that is a plummet, just because it rebounded after the video was published doesn't take away from the fact that's a steep drop. $2.12 is billions of ounces sold off in paper, but it's still a drop and it still effects small dealer shops on their buy prices, especially when your profit is .50 an ounce and it drops .65 cents in a day. You're missing the point of the video being stuck on one word.
@gptp1017
@gptp1017 27 дней назад
@@CoinHELPu we can agree to disagree :)
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 27 дней назад
You can’t argue math. It dropped fast and that is a lot for silver. So you’re disagreeing with the facts. I used plummeted per the dictionaries and the English lexicon.
@user-ii9km3ri2b
@user-ii9km3ri2b 28 дней назад
I want to learn about coin how to sell it
@TheWinstonDouble
@TheWinstonDouble 28 дней назад
I been into coins coming up on 20 years now. If you find out, let me know 😂
@the_big_dog813
@the_big_dog813 26 дней назад
Now is the time for stackers to accumulate, silver is bottoming for a long term run up to much higher levels. Dealers should buy now and try to slow their selling for the next week or two.
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 26 дней назад
You never slows sells as a dealer, bad advice.
@bentonx9063
@bentonx9063 27 дней назад
plummeted is an exaggeration, you mean it has just stopped the upwards price adjustment temporarily. the best you can expect these days is no performance at all since it doesn't even keep up with inflation in the past 3-5 years or the past 10-15 years even. how about the price of silver adjusted for inflation since commodities largely stay the same while actual prices for services soar. any stock nvidia gamestop or walmart would be better to hold than metal. I still sleep better having some value stored in silver and gold. It has held its value since biblical times, well before this country was founded and will hold value after all this, if it collapses or merges into something else.
@CoinHELPu
@CoinHELPu 27 дней назад
It dropped almost $3, do you know how much that is if compared to gold? Do you know how many ounces it takes to drop silver like that? It happened in short order as well, so that IS a plummet. This is not a correction of silver prices and that is where you're hung up, $30 isn't the new low. I don't have wishful thinking, I look at the stats and the facts, based on years in this business.
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