@@greywolf187 Moe will throw anyone under a bus to get what he wants. It was so out of character for him to leave the shelter and call out to Ned "hey wait up, I wanna die too", and Moe suddenly for the first time ever being unselfish, it's about death, of all things
+MekaShadowlight Matt had very, very little input on the direction of the show, and was actually banned from the writers' room after suggesting that Marge be revealed to have bunny ears. (Totally true.) All the best elements came from James L. Brooks and Sam Simon, with Simon in particular being responsible for the most heartwarming moments of the early seasons.
+Tom tonka It's funny because, having someone else be that bad guy instead of Homer doing it, would make them kind of hypocritical. So...Homer being hypocritical makes the show not be.
this scene perfectly encapsulates Homer's character. That he would be the first one to kick Ned out and also he would be the one guy who wouldn't let Ned die alone
@@absolutez3r019 Yea but it'd more likely punch a hole in the shelter rather than totally destroying it. Or maybe Flanders got screwed by the construction company.
I think it's because when he hears Flanders humming and bravely facing his own death while everyone else ls s bickering, it makes Homer appreciate Ned.
I like how this scene implies Moe's friendship with Homer. Like how Moe quickly came up with an excuse to save Homer and then joined and praised Homer when he made the selfless choice to be with Ned.
Exactly or how wonderfully the scene showcases Homer's real friendship with Flanders. Homers feels like he hates Flanders because he's so annoying ect and he is the one to get him kicked out but by the same token he's the first one even before his won family who chooses to go die with him. In spite of everything ever since the episode " When Flanders Failed " they have been true friends. Homer may act like a jerk to him most of the time but deep down he showed he would be willing to die alongside Ned.
Shame the ending was cut out but even so, the scene has to be in the top 5 Simpsons scenes in terms of writing alone. It's damn near perfect. It starts with the angry mob who are suddenly not so angry and turn away, great little gag. Then the rundown of who's important to Springfield, Homer betraying Flanders while apologising to his kids at the same time. The barnyard voice game, Homer's redemption while now blaming the children, the baby ox "About everything, dammit" punchline and of course that final bit with Flanders looking over Springfield, singing to himself only to be joined by his friends and neighbours. The part not shown is of course the final descent of the meteor into the bomb shelter that now stands empty and the whole sequence (which really starts with the Simpsons being invited in) is simultaneously hilarious, witty, heartfelt and poignant. It's Simpsons at its absolute finest. When The Simpsons is done and we look back at it, scenes like this will eclipse everything in the later years. The show won't be remembered for how long it dragged on or for the decline, it will be remembered for scenes like this one.
@@the_bottomfragger Thanks. Watch the "A Milhouse Divided" scene where the Milhouse parents have an argument at the Simpsons party. It's one of the best scenes ever written, not just for Simpsons but TV in general. Modern Simpsons has nothing close to that.
I think it was such wisdom that he cut it that way. And you guys in the comments have wisdom too for not spoiling anything (just in case someone wants to search the old episode)
to be honest... this scene almost made me cry because of how the nicest character in the franchise was gonna accept his death to insure for everyone safety by sacrificing his bomb shelter for the greater good. what makes this sad on how everyone joins him at the end!
I'm pretty sure he got a bit of self loathing from it, but he isn't wrong for calling them out for no one contesting him, especially Flander's children.
hes the instigator. Thats his job. And the rest of the others should've been the rational one (or rather, when compared to him) and should've stopped him instead.
nah, evolved can be used on a metaphysical level for mental change, usually bettering to the one going through said 'evolution' ...but thanks for playing just the same
In retrospective Maude Flanders was not such a good person after all. She even cheated on him. With the devil nonetheless. And still went on to say there's no afterlife. Can you imagine that?
Whoa. I just heard Homer's line at 2:45 for the first time. "Does anybody care that I'm hungry!?" This show was a masterpiece of comedy. That is HILARIOUS!!
Gotta love Moe backing Homer up as the guy who needs to run the electricity, then being the first to follow Homer out. Also Homer guessing the barnyard animal is a bro moment
I love how the first three people to speak are the most useless: Crusty, Moe and Homer. Yet, Crusty, who very well is a narcissist, makes a list in order to save himself. Then Moe gets on the list only because he is the fastest to speak up and like Crusty represents selfishness - albeit a much lesser kind. Then in order to shift focus he justifies it with some "straw-man" argument about how Homer knows how to run a nuclear power plant.
@@mikeoyler2983 yeah. homer is not even that good at running the power plant. crusty and moe all they would be good for in that situation would be to boost morality.
Yes he really is and in this situation really handled it. Apocalyptic scenarios really are nightmarish anyway and considering how nuts this situation is it could spell doom either way even if Ned stayed in the shelter.
Yeah Ned really is a man and this was the smartest thing he ever did in that situation. Then again in this situation it was impending doom and any of those characters would be turning by who knows plus shelter life really isn't ideal nor is the food. I'm pretty sure there's Spam or some early version of MRE (Meal Ready to Eat) since regular food wouldn't be surviving in this situation.
Its moments like these that break my heart, because we've seen such a compassionate, well-doing, peaceful man like Ned Flanders be reduced to nothing more then a spouting evangalist. A man of not only great patience and kindness, but also one that knows when to make the big sacrifices for the betterment of his friends and family. Perhaps one day we will have the true Ned Flanders back.
Can we acknowlage that Flanders is the most useful person there due to his undying generosity while homer the person who voted him out is actually the most useless
It only took like 2 minutes for Homer to get Ned kicked out of HIS OWN BOMB SHELTER. Then 2 minutes later everyone is sick of eachother and they leave anyway.
The scene with everyone singing is one of those special moments that'll last forever, as short as it is. Seeing all of the goofy characters you grew up with and their goofy voices singing to a song that's about the uncertainty of fate knowing their eventual demise is coming has that feeling you won't get with any other show as great as this was.
Hahah the way he says it, Moe being such a scruffy and cynical character with his raspy voice and repeating Flanders' cute "shelterinies" without even blinking... That's funny.
I’ve watched this clip countless times and it always make me cry when Ned is singing alone and everyone joins him. I actually think that this episode would have worked as a series finale if the meteor had killed everyone
Yeah you're right it would have worked. This is STILL one of the most beautiful scenes in the series and also perfectly showcases Homer's relationship with Flanders and where it stands when push comes to shove. He got him kicked out but he was the first one even before Ned's own family who chose to go die with his friend.
Lovejoy got in on the simple value of being "a gossip." The bar was not set very high.Meanwhile Ned Flanders, besides being a gentleman and strong/able bodied, is also a competent handyman with knowledge of pharmaceuticals.
David Frigault Perhaps, but being a doctor or a scientist doesn't mean you know how to make suspensions or dose pharmaceuticals. Hibbert could do the diagnosing and prescribing, Frink could make the appropriate compounding machinery and suspension chemicals, but neither one would likely know what goes into the actual preparation/creation of the medication. Plus the fact that Flanders is 65 was a one-off joke, they moved away from that concept in later episodes.
The bomb shelter being the only thing destroyed after everyone joined Ned to die reminds me of something that happened to Bela Lugosi during his service in WWI. During a battle, hiding behind a large tree, he witnessed a young officer shot in the chest and went to give him first aid. Afterwards going back to the tree, he saw it had been blown apart. He would have been killed if he hadn't gone to help him. I just think about that story sometimes
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Say what you want about Ned Flanders, but he really is such an honorable guy here. he lets them into his shelter even though he knows they can't all survive inside, and doesn't fight back when they kick him out. he really is underrated and really deserved better in the show.
I can't believe how much the quality of one of the best television series of all time has decreased over the last 15 years. It was at its absolute best between 1992 and 1999 and then started to decrease, decrease and decrease. Look at these episodes. They were pure friggin' gold ;)
Did Principal Skinner and Groundskeeper Willie forget that Springfield Elementary has a fallout shelter in their basement? They and some of the others could have taken shelter in there...
-Homer convinces everyone Flanders should be the one to leave the bunker -Homer is fed up with the people in the bunker and decides to leave -Everyone follows -Homer is seen as a good guy (even tho he's the one who threw Flanders out in the first place)
You're missing the point here. Yes Homer was the one who first convinced everyone to kick Flanders out but by the same token he was the first to feel upset that Flanders would die alone ( outside of his family. ) It's not so much that Homer was sick of the barn animal game as it is he genuinely feels bad about sending Flanders who in spite of everything is his friend to his death. Homer is stupid and often very selfish but in actuality beneath this lies one of the gentlest and most loving characters in the show. It's literally just that it's hidden beneath his stupidity and selfishness.
I like how they kick Ned out because they won’t need left handed stores but forget he is technically a pharmacist which means he’s got skills in mathematics, chemistry, at least some basic medical training and would have went to school for around 6-8 years. I know obviously they end up regretting kicking him out but I love the shows commitment to always glossing over just how accomplished Ned really is.
