So basically he's also a phenomenal audio engineer... he really makes me feel like a slacker. I've always loved Andy's disbelief because he's not a hater, he just knows how much work it all is and can't believe someone would do it. Ren said (in another interview) MG3 had several mic's. On the camera, overhead, etc. so he could go from track to track to get the best sound. It's still all from the same take, just different mic.
“****** “WE HAVE a REN!” ******* I RECALL when SOMEONE INTERVIEWING BIG PUSH members , on LOCATION , ever so briefly , directly after playing a live BUSKING session , ASKED, “WHERE’S YOUR (mixing) DESK ? (Or similar question )To which a couple of guys in unison answered”, WE HAVE (a) REN ! “. soon as I initially heard Elizabeth’s interview with Ren , I remembered that comment I’d heard. Now we all know , I thought . Yeah , WE DO INDEED ‘HAVE A REN’! 😍
Woohoo! Thank you BP and Andy for checking out the segment that I recommended. Btw I love Andy’s reactions and I never considered him a hater. In fact, when I watch The Charismatic Voice’s interview, I was just excited and hopeful that Andy might watch it. So glad you watched it and did it for us to see! And BP, eat an apple anytime you FEEL THE HUNGER!
Harry Mack explained the same thing pretty close to Ren’s explanation. Which makes sense to me about Harry because he went to a post school for music learning jazz drums. But I didn’t know Ren played drums also. I knew he was many instrument talented, but I hadn’t considered drums.
The interview is 2 & 1/2 hrs long tho, and all of it will be interesting. So obv they don't have time to react to it all, & they just wanted clarity on the questions Andrew had.
@@itsandiroo If this happens, it must be recorded for posterity. And just for sh*ts and giggles, throw in a project the two of you worked together to produce and engineer. I can most definitely say that as fans of both of you...WE NEED THIS.
In the special effects world of movie making, the greatest compliment used to be, and imo still is, that the audience cant see the special effects... an idea the initiated in the era of practical effects .. but even now with all the obvious greenscreen effects applies. In the same way, yes, its a hell of a compliment to Ren that his live recordings are disbelieved.
He does his vocals like most modern metal drummers. Snap to grid and triggered to get the hit you want even if you didn't hit hard enough. Seems to me, just a lot of engineering. It is quite impressive honestly now that I hear him explain what he does.
What many reactors don’t realise that when Ren started taking music seriously at around 12 years old, he didn’t intend to be an artist, his ambition and sim was to be a producer. This is what he focused on the development from producer to artist came later. I saw Ren talk about this in an interview but it is why his production skills are so accomplished.
We loving the reactions over in England it’s sick to see the rest of the world see how much talent we have over here. The Variety of guest on ren reactions is top tier 🫡 hoping you see this comment the only thing I want is that Sam Tompkins gets some more reactions his own catalog is so underrated and anything live is mind blowing shit. He just posted one of his best performances ever performing hero for his dad at a sold out Hammersmith Apollo it’s a must see if your fan of his and know what he’s going through currently 💪🏽 great reaction as always love G
I love that this was today's topic! I'm glad that BP brought up recording in studio, old school, because back in the early 90s, when I was in music college, part of my vocal training was about learning how to swallow your plosives as part of mic technique. Working with just a live rig, Shure SM58s, no pop filters, no windscreens, you really had to learn how to form your hard consonants into soft ones, your F's into V's, your T's into D's, etc, and clip your S's and CH's super short. My partner worked primarily mixing sound live for over 20 years and we have had long discussions about how much mic technique matters when performing live for vocals. I would imagine that Ren also spent a lot of time developing mic technique because of his beatboxing, where plosives are essential for mimicking percussion.
I just want to give an insight that may be overlooked about one of Ren's conditions. He often talks about being ADHD, and there are definitive downsides of that disorder if you've ever been around someone who has had it. But, one of the magnificent upsides to how their brains work, is not only the remarkable creativity that comes out of them, but also how they can be hyper -focused for extensive periods of time IF they are working on something that they love doing. It's why many of them go on to be entrepreneurs or independent artists to be able to accommodate their energy flows and visions. Ren has mastered how to channel his immense energy and we are the recipients of that Love.
Look for the video of Money Game Part 3 behind the scenes by Wolf Johnson and go to 30:45 its show the live recording from the wheel chair that ended up in the final video. Might answer some of his questions too.
Ren is an insane hard working perfectionist who deserves all the praise he gets. No wonder his friends/team support him to the hilt,let alone his fans.Thanks for an interesting reaction
I'm not a chef but my favorite place to be is in the kitchen baking , cooking, tinkering. Sometimes I call the things I make my concoctions .. friends tell me to stop calling them that because, first the word isn't appetizing and second the word, doesn't do it justice ... But I know it truly does lol 😂😂😂😂 Anyway my boyfriend thinks I'm putting my cooking down because I'm listing the things I'll do different next time or listing different variations that would work . I tell him it's not criticism I'm still creating. When I eat my mom's cooking (she is a chef) I try to guess ingredients, how she did this or that.... We have fun with it
That was actually very educational about learning what he needed to work with the mixing of the busking, and then transferring that experience into masterful videos. The magic is in the details.
When you hear the plosives the most on money game 3 is when he's talking into the camera. I think his breath might bounce off the camera and onto the mic. Orrrrr they have another mic on the camera. I'm pretty sure in chalk outlines they had a mic on the camera.
just my personal opinion here: i don't like how people have been attacking Andy for asking what, in my estimation, are valid questions. All he has to go on is his own knowledge and experience and asking questions is THE way to learn.
He was told the facts several times but refused to accept them, effectively calling Ren a liar. It's perfectly understandable that people would be upset. Well done on your virtue signalling though. I'm sure you feel much better about yourself.
@@Codex7777 i think u need to calm down. It's totally fair to say that you don't understand how something is achieved, without calling anyone a 'liar' - that's an assumption. People can and SHOULD question things they don't understand. It's how people learn & society progresses. Lmao getting aggressive and hostile on the internet bc someone said something you disagree with is a bit much
@@bright_and_free When he'd been told how the videos were made and recorded, via what Ren and Sam had said, and yet still refused to believe it then no, it's not an 'assumption', he's effectively accusing them of lying
I'm pretty sure he did. A few people told him to. He made a post on his MG3 reaction acknowledgement that he was wrong. He was impressed. I think this interview answered all of his skepticism.
Andy should contact Ren and set up a meeting! Ren would probably invite Andy to attend one of his video productions - like he did with Knox Hill and MG 3. Would love to see Ren and Andy get together and nerd-out playing with sound production. I know I'm not the only one who would love to see those two collaborate! ❤
Gotta say, I felt a little disappointed when Andy was so strong in his belief that MG3 was studio recorded when Ren described the microphone so clearly in all discussions online. I wish Andy had said 'maybe' he recorded in the studio but knowing Ren it would be live?? So pleased you did this video BP as I did back off a bit after Andy made those statements x
He said in another video that there were other mics there that day. There were mics above the camera and in other spots i believe and he mixed those in
It basically comes down to having the time to direct his ADHD ability to concentrate and adjust but by but. You literally couldn’t afford to pay someone to do it. But he’s paying himself and needs the you tube videos to get clicks. So it’s worth his time
Yep, it’s his passion, so it fuels the ADHD hyperfocus superpower. It becomes a labor of love especially when he’s really proud of what he’s creating. It helps that he started out as a producer.
It has nothing to do with needing YT clicks... Because he doesn't mention anywhere in his vids or titles/descriptions that this is the level of detail he goes in to to produce his stuff. He does it because this is just the way he knows how to & the way he prefers to. Because attention to detail matters to him. The only reason we know is through ppl asking.
I forget what reactor picked up on it, but in Chalk Outlines, when Chinchilla comes in, it was so soft, you can hear the noise floor rise up. I can't not hear it anymore
Hey BP Has Andiroo seen, For Joe (live rooftop version from earlier this year). I was shocked at how beautifully Ren played piano in that. I think it shows his ability better than MG3.
Elizabeth introduced me to Hi Ren, Ren introduced me to BP. BP is now introduced and viewing Elizabeth🤯 3 degrees of Ren Gil To Blanket Jackson (Andy)😅 I would say when you hear the P's in MG3 is after the camera goes around the wheelchair, the lapel mic is removed because he's about to remove the Coat and get wet so, there's probably a mic in front of him. All of Rens studio versions sound nothing like the live. Your dad Michael Jackson lyp synced all his life, and even he missed ques
I get where @itsandiroo is coming from. For me, knowing how the "magic" happens makes it even more impressive. If it really was magic, it would just be ho hum, but knowing the amount of work and skill that goes into making it look and sound like magic is cool!
Hey Andi you can now boost a mic and kill the hissing with AI. I have been messing with tools like Goyo and it works wonders for killing the hissing and stuff like that. It's still not perfect though because the other audio can suffer If you're raising it up like that.
And in some vids like Chalk Outlines, you can hear where the volume and compression is different when Chinchilla comes in softly vs. when she's belting. I've only done audio editing on a podcast, but even Audacity has noise filters and hiss removal and I go through and reduce/edit plosives. It's pretty simple.
Is Andy self-taught or did he go to school to learn music production and engineering? I ask because I’d be interested to know what path he took or would recommend for someone else wanting to get into the business and he seems to know and accomplished quite a lot at such a young age.
As far as my education goes, I’ve just obsessively watched dozens of masterclasses with famous engineers like Chris Lord-Alge! And the rest of my education has come from working with other professionals and 10s of thousands of hours in the studio producing/mixing/mastering for hundreds (maybe even thousands) of artists in different genres!! And then I was classically trained on piano and music theory for over 12 years!
But honestly RU-vid university is your best bet!!! Hahah! And then get to working - and with enough consistency and skill, you’ll be able to work in a studio or start your own! School is a great option, but it definitely holds you back from getting that MASSIVE workload of experience with clients that perpetuate your knowledge and skills!
Right on, Andy! Thanks so much for your reply! Yes, I’ll probably continue to immerse myself in various YT videos as well as others. I too have watched some of Chris Lord-Alger’s masterclass content. He always makes it look so easy but he also has great raw tracks to begin which I assume is pretty key. Anyway, thanks again and hope to see you in some more BP reaction videos.
Oh man, you ended the video just a little bit too quick. Ren gives some more insight that would answer some of Andiroo's other questions. Cool video though. It never bothered me that Andi was a skeptic.. thought like Ren, hey, it's a compliment.
