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Welcome to Smallville’s ‘cave era’ … this week Tom Welling and Michael Rosenbaum review Season 2 Episode 10: SKINWALKER!
After talking about how this is probably the unanimous decision for worst set to work on during the series, the guys get some insight from Al Gough on how important this cave plotline is to the vision of Season 2 and origin story of Clark Kent.
Tom remembers working with Tamara Feldman (as Kyla Willowbrook) and how intimidating the wolf was on set. Michael talks about the curse that is ‘knowing Clark’s secret’ while also giving props to another killer performance from Annette O’Toole..
Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
3:06 - Skinwalker
3:41 - Synopsis
4:38 - We hate the caves
5:34 - Play by play
6:02 - Boom baby!
6:55 - Tom’s double tears it up
8:04 - Asinine!
11:02 - Intimate real quick
12:13 - ageless Glover
13:16 - Clark’s origins
14:20 - Maury moment!
19:00 - Save the cave
20:30 - Lex is up to no good
21:40 - Annette is so money
23:55 - Too fast too furious
24:30 - Blind Lionel wolf attack
26:03 - Asinine?
28:00 - Closing scenes
30:26 - WE LOVE AL GOUGH!
31:30 - Season 2 ethos
33:00 - Keeping the audience guessing
35:40 - The caves!!
37:27 - Where is Whitney?!?
39:19 - Interesting things of note
41:10 - Hotline
42:30 - Good boy
47:00 - Mythologically
51:40 - Show ratings
53:05 - Body count
53:25 - Ryan’s favorite scene
54:48 - Outro
56:30 - Could not do it without YOU
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SKINWALKER (S2E10) Worst Set on Smallville, Clark’s Cursed Secret, Working With a Vicious Wolf & Lionel Not Blind?!? #smallville #talkville #season2 #skinwalker

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@ibraHasib Год назад

I love the subtle "Damn, whose that?" callbacks every few episodes 😂

@TalkVillePodcast Год назад

seems to make an appearance every episode haha

@kholin26 Год назад

@@TalkVillePodcast Have to get that on the merch!

@jerodast Год назад

Subtle, uhuh :)

@gigabuster_87 Год назад

@@TalkVillePodcast can you merchandise that?

@ladylestrange Год назад

@@TalkVillePodcast we need shirts...and mugs lol

@redlox2 Год назад

This is start of the one of the more interesting story arcs in smallville in my opinion, the caves are a key to Clark aliens heritage. I like the overall feel of having a subplot that carried over for multiple episodes.

@Arkynkili Год назад

Agreed.

@ailene_e Год назад

Yes I really enjoyed the cave storyline

@michaeltucker9700 Год назад

More than that it’s the start to the actual show and Superman arc

@coreynance3874 Год назад

@@ailene_e agreed.

@TalkVillePodcast Год назад

can't wait to get to Rosetta

@yellalot101 Год назад

"But I'm sure it happened." "Well it did happen. We just watched it." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@ShawnS14 Год назад

Tom being respectful as usual and pretending he doesn’t remember making out with one of the hottest girls I’ve ever seen 😂

@Jealod24 10 месяцев назад

20 years ago I was 20 and made out with tons of girls every weekend when I’d party or hook up… most were great looking and I can’t remember anyone’s name, what they specifically looked like, where it happened. And I’m sure he had fun with girls as well so… you make out with one girl in your early 20’s I guess you’d remember. And you need to see more girls

@ShawnS14 10 месяцев назад

@@Jealod24 You good bro lol?

@jackalope70 10 месяцев назад

I got the feeling the wife was within ear distance! lol

@jmezo6656 5 месяцев назад

I came here to say that. In my 20s I messed around with quite a few ladies, and I remember them all. None of them were even close to as hot as this woman is! He was totally downplaying it since his wife is in ear shot, or will watch these.

@mariawren6146 Год назад

Pretty sure right after Clark falls through the cave ceiling, there is a collapse of some part of the cave wall and that becomes the opening through which Kyla walks in. I think she evens says something about how they never knew that "room" existed.

@RJeremyHoward Год назад

Absolutely correct

@jonathancastro3106 Год назад

You're right, Michael missed that part.

@sslssg247 Год назад

Exactly. I think they all need to pay a little more attention when they watch the episodes.

@plenipote Год назад

Yes, I can't believe all three of them missed that part!

@TalkVillePodcast Год назад

wow. don't remember that part AT ALL!

@joltheadporgy Год назад

I really appreciate this podcast takes the time to add the relevant clips from the show when they are discussing a scene. It really enhances the rewatch podcast

@debra9908 Год назад

I totally agree!! 👏👏❤❤

@khathide22nd Год назад

I like this element too

@KC-fi6rk Год назад

If you watch the first scene in the cave, when Clark falls through one cave wall crumbles and allows her access to this section of the cave. She even says something about it if memory serves.

@TalkVillePodcast Год назад

yeah someone else mentioned that. NONE of us caught it

@ashleyryan1 Год назад

@@TalkVillePodcast that's okay, we forgive you all 😂 (makes total sense lol)

@asyouwish3636 9 месяцев назад

Yeah even the sound FX alerts the viewer to the cave opening up, for a sec it looked like it was gonna cave in the whole thing and bury him but it ends up opening up a pathnway

@laughforlife3539 3 месяца назад

@@TalkVillePodcastI never did and I just watched it! She just walks through round the bend into his crash landing😂 sorry bad joke

@jonzampas7252 Год назад

Kyla absolutely could have been kept around for additional episodes. Sarah Carter portrayed Alicia in later seasons, who also had powers (teleportation) and was a love interest for Clark. Alicia’s knowledge of Clark’s abilities helped to shake up the show and created a great dynamic of both having powers.

@kyleellis1825 Год назад

She got diagnosed with MS at one point. Not sure if that played any part in her exit from the show.

@keithgrey8484 Год назад

@@kyleellis1825 i doubt it as she was only in the show 1 ep

@audrajohnston2506 Год назад

I like how Clark yells up to Pete he's not alone in the cave before Pete spills his secret. 🤣🤣

@lincoln2324 Год назад

I've always loved the whole Caves arc during the show. It gave the entire superman mythology a different and fresh angle. 14:04 it's so cute how Tom says he doesn't remember kissing a beautiful woman. Let's see how his mind works in further seasons with characters like Chloe, Alicia, Simone AND Lois 🤣🤣🤣

@lukescribner9100 Год назад

Simone wasn't cool. But the Zantana and Maximum where good guest Stars

@Melissa.Garrett Год назад

@@lukescribner9100 But she was beautiful! So I can see how the question might apply, even though she was a horrible character.

@lukescribner9100 Год назад

@@Melissa.Garrett your right about. Plus she was paid by Lex to break up Lana and Clark. I just don't consider her a real love interest.

@ashleytuchin7693 Год назад

It's funny how now that he's married he's got kiss amnesia. 😅 That's a smart move.

@kyleellis1825 Год назад

@@ashleytuchin7693 If it was only the kisses I would agree. But they both have pretty spotty memory.

@icc2010 Год назад

Can Al just write a book about his time on Smallville? I love when you guys call him. Ive always loved behind the scenes stories . I cant get enough

@-M0LE Год назад

Or do a whole inside of you with him would be hours long

@audrajohnston2506 Год назад

Yes he's great! Thank you Al!

@RobertsonIsland Год назад

This is a *very* important episode in the canon of the show, these caves become a headache-inducing plot point up until Clark activates the Fortress of Solitude lol Edit: Its nice to know you hated the cave as actors as much as I did as a fan!

@TalkVillePodcast Год назад

yup. Al agrees :)

@JJ_LL Год назад

i love the caves. It provides a very logical contact point with alien life. From the Kawatche legend, to an alien parasite, to Lionel's interest on Lex's interest in the caves. It'd make no sense if Lionel followed Clark just because Lex seemed hung up on Clark. But that there is trouble and phenomena emanating from the caves completely explains why Lionel is circling Clark's secret. It makes way more sense that the caves (being revered by the Kawatche) are a door to another world rather than there being a Fortress buried in the arctic that no Kryptonian even tried to use as a focal point of an empire building scheme until after Clark takes it. It is awful though that it seemed to be a rather toxic set to try working in.

@aplusgarcia8206 Год назад

Fun Fact: Sarah Carter, the actress who played Alicia in future episodes, acted in a movie called Skinwalkers which is all about the same subject as this episode.

@davemelanson8399 Год назад

This episode is a pseudo 'freak of the week' as Joseph mentions meteor rock or 'green glowing rock'. I also enjoyed Kyla's First Aid skills by immediately removing Clark's shirt for a back injury. lol

@audrajohnston2506 Год назад

Yeah and then his shirt is buttoned back up. Lol. I'm surprised Michael didn't mention she had a knife in her hand to open his shirt. Excess! 😂

@JDSharar13 Год назад

I love that Tom brought up missing Pete. I think a lot of fans always wanted more from his story lines. It was a very underrated sad moment when he left the show. His family ties in all the way to the beginning too and there was definitely more to explore there with the Ross family, they kind of blew through all that in 1 or 2 episodes later on

@jamieperez6607 Год назад

I like when Tom interrupts in the conversation. Remember he is the star of smallville

@RayNotCharles Год назад

Episodes this season I’m particularly excited for… visage, insurgence, suspect, rush, Rosetta, and Exodus. Rush is gonna be fun I think cause not only does Clark get affected by Red K, but also for anyone affected by the parasite, it’s basically Red K for them as humans. Insurgence because Clark does one of his first real big feats in jumping from building to building. Visage just really for Clark fighting his “clone”😂. Rosetta for obvious reasons, aka, Christopher Reeve. And then Exodus cause it’s, imo, one of the best finales of the series. Tense, bittersweet, sad… just straight up epic!

@TalkVillePodcast Год назад

next week is going to be a treat

@tylercaskey1931 Год назад

Definitely excited for Rosetta. I watched that this morning.

@Krypton_Ken Год назад

@@TalkVillePodcastI think Insurgence is another Jeph Loeb. He really knocked it out of the park with his first two episodes.

@Krypton_Ken Год назад

@@tylercaskey1931It's been a while but I even get chills thinking about Christopher Reeve in that one and the John Williams music. Tremendous job by everyone involved.

@JJ_LL Год назад

I normally hate "hostage situations" in tv shows because they're clearly a throw away episode and an attempt to cut costs by using only one or two locations while nerfing the main character. However, Insurgence is really good and it informs us on the Martha/Lionel relationship. Personally, I think Fever, Rosetta, and Exodus are the best of this season........ that we are yet to see. I still stand by my 3 Roses of this episode.

@josephtingley654 Год назад

This is the reaction channel I really have been looking for via other reactors, but it's waaaaay better with the actual actors doing it than strangers.

@passionsquietrage Год назад

The Kawatche caves have always been one of my favorite additions to the Superman mythos as well as Smallville. They led to so many great moments like the Fortress, the connection between Jor-El and the Kent family, Christopher being a guest star twice(the second having been his final on screen appearance, fittingly), etc.

@Kariegurl Год назад

I absolutely loved this episode because it added so much to the storyline. It also shows how Clark yearns to feel loved without having to keep a secret. Kaya made him feel like he belonged.

@iloveu172 Год назад

Yeah. If they gave the same to Lana from the beginning, the story would have been different with Lana

@enoyna1001 Год назад

Kyla is the hottest Smallville girl. I'm sorry, Lana. 😅

@iloveu172 Год назад

@@enoyna1001 feel sorry for all the other girls....Clark has always chosen Lana.

@italiangypsy79 Год назад

I can always tell when someone isn't a country boy or has never lived in a town like Smallville when asking about why they have dirt bikes. Being from a country farm town like Smallville, you're either quad-riding in the trails or dirt bike riding in the trails. It's what country boys and girls do for fun. Pete or Clark owning dirt bikes would not be out of the norm considering the town they are from in the show.

@audrajohnston2506 Год назад

Agreed! I commented that too. We grew up jumping 3 wheelers on fields that had recently been plowed. No helmet. Dislocated my shoulder.

@unknown_nsb 10 месяцев назад

Not a country boy, but a lot of people ride dirt in Cali too. It is not a country thing you just need to talk to the right people who are into it

@dynaguy3 Год назад

This is where it starts to get good. The cave plotline was really intriguing and led to great moments

@Arkynkili Год назад

🤣🤣🤣 Ryan, for the win. "We need another tally for the number of times you say 'asinine'." 🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍 I literally laughed out loud and cackled. Thanks for the laugh, Ryan!

@london11314 Год назад

The cup is how you can tell when Lionel is no longer blind, when he pours his drink he stops using his finger to tell how full the glass is....in this episode Lionel still used his finger when he was going to pour the liquor before he hears the wolf so he's still blind here

@amberlake4006 Год назад

I CANNOT wait until you guys get to season four because Lois adds so much to the show! You see Clark grow up because of her and their relationship from friends to more to getting married is everything!!

@jessicabarrett3603 Год назад

I love love love Lois in Smallville I cannot wait either. She is such a bright spot!!!

@tinatinarmainteresebs9255 Год назад

Omg I agree so much! With every new episode I'm counting down how much is left till she appears 😂 and I'm so curious to see how the guys will react to her now and to how she so obviously brought so much life to the show.

@edwincarpenter2669 Год назад

Another enjoyable podcast. Michael, I really liked how you and Tom pointed out how well Annette acted out the fear in the scene when the wolf tried to attack her when she was in her car. That's one of the enjoyable things of the podcast, is you bringing your insight and enjoyment as a fellow actor to the podcast. As you pointed out, without her terrific acting, that she was afraid, the scene could have been really out there but instead it worked.

@TalkVillePodcast Год назад

literally. every scene she's in. gold

@rhoadnaroahs Год назад

It's Tom "I don't remember" Welling. LOL

@Marvellous132 Год назад

Tom's, "I don't remember kissing her" part 65461 LOL!

@SilverandCold1x Год назад

About “did this translate well to the audience?” I was a young teen when this aired, and yeah, I got that the caves were hinting that Kryptonians had visited Earth before, even back then.

@vincentalvarado7058 Год назад

I love the episodes where Clark gets a different love interest. I'm so excited for you guys to get to Alicia.

@keithgrey8484 Год назад

kyla was so fine

@davidgracias7348 Год назад

I literally just finished watching all of Smallville less than an hour ago and have now discovered this podcast. This is awesome!

@claytonr.1886 Год назад

I think that the reason Clark knows to save Lionel is because of Kyla saying that her uncle was right about Lionel deceiving them all. He thought that she would tell her uncle and then he would attack Lionel to end his threat.

@MalcomMcLeod Год назад

Yes when Clark and Kyla have that argument, as she leaves she says: "Lionel Luther controls you all". Then Clark puts it all together that he's the next victim.

@Aassassin2013 Год назад

I remember this episode airing and getting hooked on the idea of wolf/human powers. With the cave being introduced and depicting the arrival of our favorite Kryptonian, I could tell this was going to be a dive into the origins of Clark and maybe even explain if Kryptonians had visited before. Totally love the chemistry of Kyla and Clark and how he was able to be honest with her but feeling the irony of her being secretive with her own powers. Bro cant catch a break sadly, least not for another 7 seasons. LOVE THE PODCAST! LOVE THE EFFORT YALL PUT IN! Tom, Michael Ryan, Bryce, Thank you for being a highlight i look forward to every Wednesday.

@blazed99 Год назад

Tamara Feldman has MS.. surprised the guys didn't mention something about this...she once did a riding thing across the USA in support of ms research...this was a great episode...Leads in to some great things in the season...one rose for me on this one.. cheers Boyz...keep up the great work ..stay blessed

@ashleytuchin7693 Год назад

I love the introduction of the caves - one of the best additions Smallville made to the Superman mythos was the increased connection between Krypton and Smallville. I like the idea that Clark's parents actually sent him to a specific place for a reason, they didn't just fire him at Earth and hope for the best.

@simpleman5932 Год назад

Just to ease Ryan's mind about the dirt bikes, Pete shows up multiple times throughout the series on a dirt bike. It's something that is shown again in the future episodes. But you guys also got to remember that not everything in the episode has to be spelled out. In a 1 hour episode I don't need a history as to why a character has dirt bikes in their garage. Where I live every other garage is filled with old dirt bikes. Anyways, love the podcast guys!

@korren9920 Год назад

Last episode Michael complained about Tom interrupting. This episode his T-shirt says "Quiet Please". 😂

@aerialsdaddy Год назад

Love the fact you guys are doing this show for us fans. God bless

@TalkVillePodcast Год назад

appreciate it bud

@joelangeles8169 9 месяцев назад

Well, they also charge $600 if you want to Zoom with them, so yeah it's all about doing it for the fans.

@abbysands9510 Год назад

What I found interesting is Tom's revelation about the owners not feeding the animals for a day or two before bringing them on set so they can be more responsive to their owners. It is interesting because an animal is your friend until it's hungry, and then you are its dinner. I recall a story I read a while ago where a man left his dog alone for a week while he went on holiday, and upon his return, the hungry animal made him his meal. I only bring this up because a wolf is more dangerous than a dog, and if the trainer has starved the animal for a day or two, it could be looking at the actors as its potential meal.

@abeltesfaye_ Год назад

I love how often Michael calls out plot-holes 😂😂😂 He gets even more worked up than Smallville fans and it's so funny to watch hahaha

@jerodast Год назад

He gets more worked up than Smallville fans because he's only paying half the attention Smallville fans do :P

@stefanib.4283 Год назад

I'm glad Tom defends johnathan every time someone says something negative. Not all of the scenes aged well but he's such a good character that loves his wife and son. I saw a lot of my dad in him

@audrajohnston2506 Год назад

I think he's so close to John S so he feels close to those scenes. I agree that sometimes Jonathan comes across too strong!

@stefanib.4283 Год назад

@Audra Johnston I agree, but I think they only point out the negative parts of the character or the bad scenes. Either way is fine since honest opinions are better, but it's nice to know someone is batting for his character

@TheNoodle6 Год назад

Hi, to my fellow Smallville lovers out there! Don't you wish we could watch the series, for the 1st time again? Great memories!! ♥Always hold on to Smallville♥

@laurelicordero4126 Год назад

The Luthor mansion.... So many rooms and yet only one is in use as office, for fencing, and gym 🤔🤪

@samson639 Год назад

Lol, it is more like two since Lex often uses the office to do his fencing as well.

@ryanjohnjohn3015 Год назад

i was gonna lose my mind if tom didnt connect that the episode he was answering was the one Al was just referencing. Love to see him remember more and more lol

@gabrieljones6479 Год назад

Please don't stop before all ten seasons are watched! I know you weren't in the last 3 seasons Rosey so to see your reactions will be golden!

@shubhrasarkar Год назад

Oh my thoughts exactly!!

@audrajohnston2506 Год назад

Agreed! Please keep going! It's so interesting how show changes over the years.

@thegirlleastlikelyto Год назад

9 is one of my favourite seasons so I really hope they get that far! And Homecoming in season 10!

@JJ_LL Год назад

No, they can stop after Season 6........... have pity on them. Smallville nose dives in quality after Season 6 although Laura Vandervoort and Supergirl are the best thing of Season 7.

@dbmabe Год назад

I imagine they’ll keep it going. Even though Michael wasn’t in it, the Lex character still had a presence, if just by reputation and legacy.

@mufasamostasa Год назад

Tom is so awkward when asked if he remembers kissing a female co-star 😂 but I get it, pretty sure just trying to be respectful. Such a gentleman. But at the same time, oh cmon man you member lol. Love you guys!

@keithgrey8484 Год назад

yea if there’s anyone he’d rem it’s her

@MomoSimone22 5 месяцев назад

@@keithgrey8484really? If he should remember anyone, it's Kristen! Considering they kissed more times than he would have this girl.

@lexiconjessica Год назад

I love how you 3 compliment each other so well. Michael is the pessimist and likes to question things. Tom is the optimist who struggles to criticize. And Ryan is just so unbiased he seems like he doesn’t care to do either of those things and just goes with the flow😂 it really displays what the different types of viewers go through.

@robinhelenehebert Год назад

When Kristen was crying she had the same face as the little girl in the first episode who played her.

@Zwerfkat369 Год назад

Ok I kinda like the bike intro, at first I thought it was really out of the blue but now I look at it as Clark just being a stupid teen and having fun in a small town. I feel like these moments are kinda rare so I enjoy them.

@daveac Год назад

Surely it was the daylight streaming into the caves from Clarkes fall (and clear opening) that highlighted those cave drawing. The scene with Clarke & Kyla in the barn - she gets upset quickly because (as we find out later) he is close uncovering her secret - not her fathers

@lindamawdsley6130 Год назад

I like this episode as we find out more about where Clark possibly came from and this allows for greater potential with the storyline. The synopsis was very entertaining, Al’s input was very informative and the scene with Lionel and the Wolf was brilliant 😍

@TalkVillePodcast Год назад

glad you enjoyed :)

@asyouwish3636 9 месяцев назад

I love how the show brings in the idea of previous Kryptonian visitors, I believe that they used to be space explorers in the comics. Good catch by Tom Welling noting that maybe this is why/how Jor-el knew where to send his son.

@JacklostYedmore Год назад

A RU-vid channel where the two main cast from Smallville watches and discusses every episode of the series one episode at a time, what a good time we live in 😄 Proper dedication from the actors 😃

@leahmacdonald5122 Год назад

I always figured Clark falling into the cave like he did was a riff on Bruce Wayne falling into the Batcave. Mythologically is definitely a word too btw

@Chimchimchu Год назад

That's obviously the best explanation for why it happened. Anything else seems less fun.

@nickg89 Год назад

Change this from Talkville to “Rosenbaum craps on everyone watchings favorite show for an hour” lol

@williamweiland3195 5 месяцев назад

You're shitting on the podcast! Lol

@actiondk2279 Год назад

Great episode! I named my daughter Kyla from this episode. She turns 15 this Saturday 🎉🎁

@bmr209 Год назад

Clearly Rosenbaum is not paying close attention when he's watching these episodes 😂

@jeffh06 Год назад

35:06 even one of the creators don’t remember writing the scene of Clark shows up stop the 🐺 attack🤦🏻 lol😂

@thevoiceoftheseagull7413 Год назад

Skinwalker is one of my favorite episodes of Season Two. As a lover of Native American culture I find this connection between Clark and the legend of Naman very fascinating and I love it and that white wolf was beautiful❤. Also I've always wondered if there's a possible connection to the fact that Tom himself is partly Native, maybe he was a source of inspiration himself.❤ Sorry to hear that filming inside the Kawatche caves was so difficult and unhealthy, thanks for holding on, you guys are great! Thank you so much for everything guys I will never know how to thank you enough and I hope I can be a patreon myself sometime. Love you all❤.🌹🌹🌹for me.

@glesnietutty8444 Год назад

This was the start of one of the most interesting arcs of the whole show because we're getting into Clark's kryptonian heritage. Also it would have been nice if they had kept Kayla around it would have been interesting to see how the Lana Clark thing would have been dealt with.I enjoyed this episode I give it 1.5 🌹. Always love it when you here from AL.

@jcast1976 Год назад

I love this episode! We love when Tom interrupts. Rose, you should definitely post those videos.

@lankymcallister7402 Год назад

I wish Al could be a guest on every episode

@JJ_LL Год назад

ABSOLUTELY!!!!

@BelleyPuffy Год назад

I remember this episode where we found out about the caves, it really opens up the story about Clark origins. It was nice to see Clark open with Kyla, too bad she didn't survive, I wish she were in more episodes. I love Al's insights it feels like he is a real fan of the show and not just the creator. He remembers amazing things. I think it was a really great episode. Two Roses 🌹 🌹

@matthall113 Год назад

Im am bloody loving this podcast!! Its amazing! Smallville released when I was 14 years old im now 34, 35 this year. This show is timeless and this podcast has brought back soo many memories and has sparked me to rewatch the whole series and watch this podcast after each episode 😁😁 I look forward to more and more of this!! Excellent!!!

@CoffeewithStephanie Год назад

I remember this episode! It was an interesting take on Clark's origin story. I'm also rewatching ER, I was watching it last week and there was Pete lol so that's why Pete wasn't around, he was in Chicago 😂 great podcast guys as always enjoyed watching! ❤️❤️❤️

@bellezaa735 Год назад

😂😂😂

@CSpectre Год назад

Now I wish we could have gotten a few episodes of Clark and Kyla fighting crime as Superman and the Skinwalker. lol

@HappyGuy343 Год назад

We’ve finally reached the caves. I always liked how they tied the Krytonian origins to indigenous culture. Not every Superman story has to follow the same origins so it’s definitely an interesting take on it. The actress who plays Kyla was one of the most beautiful women who came onto the show. My rating for this episode is the same as Ryan’s (1.5 roses 🌹 🥀)

@TalkVillePodcast Год назад

solid score pal

@keithgrey8484 Год назад

she’s the most beautiful woman to b in the show

@stanjontra643 Год назад

@@TalkVillePodcast- I'm really surprised that you all didn't rip into the sunglasses scene between Lex and Lionel at the end. This may be the first time I remember the show messing up on continuity between camera shots. Lex has no sunglasses on when the camera is on him over Lionels shoulder. Flip angles to Lionel over Lex's shoulder and he has sunglasses on. The camera flips back and forth a few times. I really thought Rosenbaum would critique this scene. FYI - scene where Lex buys the cave off Lionel.

@KyleDBZ117 Год назад

I remember watching as a teen and the cave scenes and the fact that maybe there were kryptonians here before was so mysterious and is one of my fav storylines and kept me hooked

@abbysands9510 Год назад

In response to Michael Rosenbaum's question about Kylie's sudden discovery of the symbols in the cave despite her numerous visits, her explanation is both intriguing and profound. When Kylie rushes to Clark's aid after his fall, and he assures her that he is unharmed, Clark then queries about her sudden presence, Kylie explains that she had been engaged in some work in a different part of the cave for her grandfather, and when Clark had falling it created a landslide that opened up a different part of the cave wall revealing a previously unknown area of the cave where the symbols were discovered, and she had never been before. That previous unknown part of the cave is the part of the cave where she and Clark now reside. If you look at 5:27 mark from the SkinWalker Smallville episode you can see the wall collapsing due to Clark's impact and her coming from that newly opened wall .

@hartleyw6323 Год назад

Uh, Michael, it's a comic book show. You have to be ready to live in suspended disbelief.

@tosiebel5522 Год назад

I loved the caves and Kyla storyline and wished that she had had a longer arc.

@aerolitos0 Год назад

Kyla: You fell over 100 feet. You don't have a scratch on you. Clark: Just lucky, I guess. 😄😄😄

@icc2010 Год назад

This is also where clarks story becomes very relatable. As a adoptee myself, i was able to relate to wanting to learn more about where you come from

@enoyna1001 Год назад

Are you also from Krypton? (I won't tell anyone.)

@icc2010 Год назад

@@enoyna1001 🤫🤫🤫

@scottpeterson7971 Год назад

I love it when you guys have Al on. He's great.

@ladysamxoxo Год назад

This is my favorite episode from season 2. Was looking forward to this for awhile!

@TalkVillePodcast Год назад

WOW favorite one? right on

@BCBaron Год назад

Not sure whether anyone else has commented on it, but I actually enjoy listening to you guys do the mini-commercials each week for Athletic Greens, as well as the other sponsors. You both have a very natural, pleasant, down to Earth delivery. Instead of the hard sell, it just feels like two people casually talking about how much they appreciate the value of a specific product or service.

@ragweedmakesmesneeze Год назад

You ever notice how Tom skillfully avoids talking about any real chemistry/romance between him and other costars?

@audrajohnston2506 Год назад

I've noticed that too! Master at pr. I respect his privacy but everyone understands if he thought a guest was pretty or something...😂 I think it's years of avoiding the press when he was a young star. He was and is married.

@valeriemoreno8535 Год назад

He does handle those questions well. It shows he is respectful of his costars and his wife. I find that admirable. Michael is a hoot!! You gotta love him! He lays it all out there! Love it! They definitely balance each other for this podcast! ❤

@kennylaysh2776 Год назад

Smart man lol

@fepic Год назад

Tom was already married (wife #1) at this point of production, wasn’t he? He’s jus tiptoeing to avoid sounding like a bro…tho he often sounds like a bro anyways 😂

@CaslavNorisavljevic Год назад

That's actually the polite expected response. Micheal is the one who is the loose cannon

@stellaharris4826 Год назад

I truly enjoy this episode - all the performances were nice, nice tension with Lex and Lionel, lived the chemistry between Clark and kyla.

@ObiWanaSmoki Год назад

I’m pretty sure the Chief comes back in Talisman, the episode with the dagger that gives special abilities & turns to ash when lex touches it.

@audrajohnston2506 Год назад

Yes he does!

@mariofierro2208 Год назад

Omg I love Michaels sense of humor 😂 I’m laughing so damn hard

@SuperDoggy99 Год назад

In the writer's defense, when Kyla walks into the scene, no one is paying attention to the drawings any more anyway.

@enoyna1001 Год назад

🎉🎉🎉😅

@keithgrey8484 Год назад

she had me in a trance

@be884 Год назад

I feel like Michael doesn’t shit on the show unnecessarily… he just misses a lot of stuff that explains why things have happened. For example, Kayla said that the landslide when Clark fell through the roof opened up a wall. Hence, she’d never been in that room before.

@kenmolinaro Год назад

Shame that Tom is married now. We will never get an honest answer about scenes where he kissed a beautiful woman. 😂

@Dumplin42 Год назад

Doesn't really feel like you guys are watching the episodes. More like reading the "Smallville for Dummies" outlines. In the future, perhaps have the episode available to go through some of your issues.

@artfart1486 Год назад

It's actually cathartic that Tom tried to like 'patch up' the inconsistencies with an imagined fix. Like - I like that, haha. It makes my brain happy. Love the podcast guys

@Maikigai Год назад

Smallville always played up that it was Clark’s “destiny” to become Superman, so for that to be the case, it made perfect sense to me that the noise of Clark landing led her directly to him and the Kryptonian paintings.

@ace360 Год назад

Man I remember this episode Super Powerful in in Smallville History Clark Kent Kal-El The Discovery of The Key and more! Awesome episode, 🤣 Tom and Michael Thanks for your sacrifice working in The Cave's I remember talking to Tom at Galexycon NC last year and him telling troubles of filming in there so my condolences lol For the sake art of filming You guy's are Hero's, Always enjoyed this episode back then I still enjoy it Today I give it 🌹🌹 For the Lore of Clark finding out more and that ending scene with Lex talking about the fight between the two characters on the wall aka Future Clark aka Superman and White Suit Lex and Ultimate Enemies someday 🙏❤️💙 (S) You guys Rock Thanks this making Wensdays more Awesome 🤘

@emilydurham7646 Год назад

I watched Smallville for the first time when I was very young and rewatched all throughout my life. To answer your question. I always knew they were trying to get across that Kryptonians had visited earth before Clark. The symbols being in the cave is implying it, so I think we’re just meant to pick up on it

@kennyoliver150 Год назад

I totally agree about Pete. He wasn't used enough in the episodes and the show really missed him when he was gone.

@MalcomMcLeod Год назад

This was my first time seeing Tamara Feldman's work and let's just say I felt the same way as Clark. Sad hearing about her health issues though.

@keithgrey8484 Год назад

she had me in a trance

@MagSulJA Год назад

I'm sorry to hear that filming in the caves was so unpleasant! Thank you for persevering though, it was my favourite location from the early seasons. ☺ I thought it was an interesting beginning to diving deeper into Clark's origins. 😃

@matthewsainsbury2367 Год назад

I agree matt I didnt know myself the cave was unsettling filming in there ,anyway I like the engraved stories of 🏹the native American legends I wrote a article below about some native legends ,theres a story that's true when george Washington was serving under the British during the french and Indian war ,he was serving under a British commander name edward braddock,washington understood how the french and Indians use guerilla warfare tactics especially the Indians like the Ottawa the potowami, and others how they fire behind rocks and trees braddock was warned by washington to get scouts as braddocks army stretched 4 miles long in the dense Ohio woods as he marched to the French fort ,braddock refused well 7 miles from the fort at the monongahela river ,🌳🌲🏞💥💥🏹💥the Indians and french opened fire the british soilders in their bright red uniforms where perfect targets they where fired at but they couldnt see who was firing clearly in the dense forest eventualy of the 1300 British troops 900 where killed 86 officers where left braddock was hit in his lung and fell Washington had to organize the retreat washington of the 86 officers was the only one left during the ambush Washington had 2 horses shot from under him after he lead the retreat he discovered 4bullet holes that penetrated his uniform but he wasnt harmed 🤯😱he also had a few in his hat he wrote his mother and brother saying by the miraculous care of "providence I've been protected beyond measure for I had bullets through my coat and 2 horses shot under me yet escaped unhurt although death was leveling my companions on every side "theres a account where its said one of the Indians during that battle is claimed to have said "washington was never born to be killed by a bullet I had 17 fires at him with my rifle and after all couldnt bring him to the ground!"well theres a account call the Indian prophecy it comes from a old source from eyewitness accounts and from washingtons inner descendants it was even dramatized in 1837 I recall washington and his doctor james carik where traveling along the area where this battle occured 15 years later it was 1770,just before the American war of independence, a chief with a band 🏹🏹of warriors came to greet washington and his entourage near where this battle occured a council fire🔥was lite and the chief address washington through an interpator saying" I've traveled a long and weary path that I might see the young warrior of that great battle it was on the day the white mans blood mixed with our forest when I first beheld this chief I call to my young men and said mark yon tall and daring warrior quick let you're aim be certain he dies our rifles where leveled rifles which but for you knew not how to miss💥💥to was all in vain a power far mightier than we shielded you ,seeing you where under the guardianship of the Great Spirit we immediately cease to fire at you I'm old and shall soon join my father's in the land of shades but are I go theres something buds me speak in the voice of prophecy listen the Great Spirit protects that man!and guides his destiny he will become a chief of nations and a people yet unborn will hail him as a founder of a mighty empire"fascinating story matt I hope you found it interesting

@thelearner9984 Год назад

When I saw Pete and Tom riding their dirt bikes, I never thought about where they obtained them; I just thought it was boys being boys and simply having fun. It is almost when you see a group of teenagers riding BMX bikes, and you assume that they have them stashed in their garages and it was bought or paid for by them or by their guardians. I agree with Tom about missing Pete because he and Pete are pretty funny when they bounce off each other or when they are breaking into places. For example, take the scene where Clark falls down the hole; Pete arrives but doesn't know that Clark has company, so he then shouts down to Clark whether he needs help or he can jump up by himself; much to Kyla's surprise, Clark then shouts to Pete that he has company before then stating to Kyla that he is a funny guy and Pete simply replies okay. I love that scene. This episode is also the mythology for Clark, starting from the caves. I also made the connection (long before Al confirmed it) when Kayla stated that people came from the stars that could shoot fire from their eyes and had incredible strength; it was apparent from her statement that Kryptionians had visited Earth before, and the caves were the link or the staging ground. Ps I thought it was the grandfather who was the wolf, at least the writers did an excellent job of misdirecting the audience, and also, Kyla stormed off because Clark was right.

@hbk2399 Год назад

Great review, but was really hoping to hear Michael complain about his glasses being on/off in his final scene with Lionel lol editing at it’s best!

@GrahamMorris-bgmax2 Год назад

@talkvillepodcast - Michael, Tom, and Ryan, thank you for doing the show and the re-watch podcast, LOVING it. Just a comment/request for Tom; please consider switching the framed map poster with the framed Clark/Smallville poster. It would allow better visibility during podcasts. Anyway thank you all very much for you and your wonderful guests.

@abbysands9510 Год назад

It was great to have Al on the show or at least on the phone, as he always had a unique perspective and insight into the world of Smallville. Even before Al mentioned it, I was able to make the connections that other Kryptonians had visited Earth, which had been hinted at throughout the show. Kyla even mentioned that other visitors had come to their planet in the past, bringing with them rocks that had an adverse effect on some members of the tribe. In response to Tom's question, where he questioned if Kyla was the only one of her kind, I don't believe that to be the case, as she explained that the meteorite had affected most of her ancestors but not all of them. This suggests that the gene responsible for the ability to change into wolves was passed down through generations by those who were affected and so more than likely other members of the tribe likely have the gene as well. This is entirely possible through the fact that Kyla, who was born many, many generations later has the gene. The episode served as a gateway to Clark's mythology, as we learned in the future seasons that Kryptonians have been coming to Earth for thousands of years through a portal in the cave.

@kimbooley90 Год назад

The thing about Kryptonians having visited Earth before also explains the freak of the week from a few episodes ago who had been absorbing other people's life forces for over one hundred years!

@Narutoanime16g Год назад

I always liked this episode cause SmallVille delved more into the supernatural aspect of DC lore

@premek17 Год назад

Really liked this episode, all the Kawatche story was great. Kayla was great character, wish she didn't die in this episode. Would be interesting to see Clark and Kayla relationship grow and Lanas reaction to it

@Marvellous132 Год назад

Kyla was sooooooo cute! I wish she'd had a longer arc. Both Kyla and Alicia had more mileage than they were given.

@kadosho02 Год назад

@@Marvellous132 same. You could feel that energy in every scene with Kayla, or Alicia. There is so much character growth, even within several episodes

@ElysiaFields19 Год назад

Guys, I love you but it would really help if you watch the episodes when you can pay full attention before you start tearing something apart, please. There was an explanation in the show for the revelation of the wall. I look forward to this podcast so much and I look up to you actors for what you can share about this show that meant a great deal to me back in the day and that I'm having a terrific time rewatching now.

@Hells_Gift_MB Год назад

I had an urge to rewatch Smallville from beginning to end last month and now I've discovered this podcast, spooky but so glad I'm not the only one wanting to revisit this classic show 👍🏼

@cryptyknyk Год назад

him falling and being so dense cracked open a new area in the cave. Also as a superman fan, this ep was top because it was part of the main story, explaining his origins and his future. In later eps they'll explain Clark's biological father traveled to earth too, many years ago, maybe the 50s. So they knew of Earth long before.

@Brook11223 Год назад

This episode kind of the first being the start to explore about Clark Kent's origins and the introduction of the caves. It's kind of nice to see how Clark Kent's arrival was predestined which of course gets explored in season 3 one of my favorite episodes with a beautiful flashback.