Skull and Bones - Angry Review 

I never understood why people blame the devs instead of the actual CEOs making these discussions.

@@goosinator6066cause it’s a shitty game.

​@@oficijalni5713Created by directors/CEOs changing ideas, so devs had to abandon features to create a new one, repeat this cycle for 10 years and you get this. They were only doing what was requested, most of the time is not their fault, they were only doing what was asked to be done

kiss Joe's mexican hiney

@@pax1217 People just don't like to admit that the majority of the time it's the higher ups in the studios and their shareholder masters that make the decisions, and the developers just have to do the best they can. I mean this game according to what Gameranx's reported in their video about S&B supposedly costed Ubisoft 120 million dollars in budget and that's probably not even fully accurate since that number was reported back in 2021 so who knows how much more cash got burned into this game three years later, at that point the shareholders were likely going "ok, where's our money" and they had to push the game out as it was just to try and make SOMETHING back.

Sea of Thieves is up there, fantastic game as of now. Edit: I also like to point out, Sea of Thieves is up there with No Mans Sky and Cyberpunk in terms of complete overhaul revival, thanks for the likes fellas.

Talking about One Piece?

Sea of Thieves is better imo but Black Flag is still very high up there.

You're 100% right. Before that game came out, it was probably Sid Meier's Pirates. Hell, I'd rather play LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean than any pirate game post Black Flag.

Sea dogs 2 is better

I don't understand how Ubisoft can pay 200 people to make a game that nobody wants to play. Like the entire leadership team and management team needs to get demoted or kicked out for wasting years of money.

@@alargecorgi2199 In Reality though: "Good Job! Here are your promotions!"

@@alargecorgi2199it’s more the big corporations forcing the devs to make these shitty games.

Not even worth looting

I wonder if they'll make DLC for it? I hope so I can see Joe's reaction to it.

It's the crew that gets tired

@@Qbopit’s not a fucking rowboat dude. It’s a sail ship, which is powered by the WIND.

@@Qbophow the fuck the wind gonna get tired

​@@Qbopdo you know how ships work

​@@twilightparanormalresearch186 ocean god poseidon gets tired from blowing the players ship to their destination lol

I was looking for this comment.

😂

I even guess their AAAA is so tired that they skipped their boardings

Overwatch 2: sorry, my brand is tired.

Your ship isn't tired its your crew. If there was no stamina for your crew faster ships could just sail away. What a stupid thing to say.

Starfield did this but replaced "traditional pirate fantasy" with "traditional space fantasy." I am one of the few people that actually liked Starfield, but the bare bones and empty planets was my biggest complaint.

She looked dead inside when she said its darker and grittier

Thanks Ubisucks, very cool! 👌 And yeah, four A letters there for more

"No"

Vanessa Seow demonstrates Todd Howard levels of integrity.

Dont make me more mad than i already am please

The more I hear about this game the more it feels like Ubisoft actively wanted it to fail for a tax write off. After how much money they dumped into its development, I wouldn’t doubt it.

Why was the superior character replaced with the shoe-horned in “STRONG, INDEPENDENT WOMAN”? Not sure. Really. All I can say is she Didn’t Earn It

That sounds amazing, and makes so much more sense than “my sails need a breather”

Ubisoft didn't make games nowadays, they make agressive left propaganda in the form of games.

Must be a record

It's a race to the bottom now tbf

the dips keep dipping

Both games have been in development for at least 8 years to lol

Remember when we all thought red fall would be the worst game for a few years….then we had gollum and it’s been a race to the bottom ever since

Wow, you actually made me realize that, what a pathetic corpo they are, it's disgusting

Its really funny that the ONE TIME we actually want them to copypaste something they fail even at that XD It actually feels like they intentionally make games to be crap.

U want some swashbuckling get pillars of eternity 2

This is the truth. They just had to make black flag without any assassins creed and bam. Instead they choose to make a garbage live service game

@@TackyKnackyThere are reasons I call "Ubishit" the name that I do

Stupid consumer, we hired a consulting firm they know better what you want. They also told us to add more women.

The closest you get is AC rogue and while I think it's a very nice assasins creed game it's not really an evolution of black flag just more of it... what a shame this game turned into

“We were sad to hear what our customers wanted” fucking game devs

We are so sad that the customer is too stupid to know what they want is basically what they were saying. We know what we want and we voiced it quite clearly. Bean counters are what ruined AAA games.

Sadly most game companies don’t give a fluck anymore. They criminalize their own customers and see them as obstacles to their wallets. Despicable and desperate is the name of the game nowadays :/

I've seen mobile games with better cutscenes.

Im not advocating them but the game from what ive seen from endgame battles seems fun for abit. Its an arpg but pirates, not supposed to be a singleplayer story driven game or anything.

assassins creed odyssey and I'm pretty sure valhalla had better ship mechanics then this quadruple A garbage.

Absolutely Abysmal Avaricious Application.

​@@rmedrano9752I agree about Odyssey but in AC Valhalla there's no ship combat nor storms & the ship would get stuck in shallow water & you'd have to very slowly try to get it unstuck whilst the crew say insults at you. Who tf at Ubisoft thought that would be a good idea? AC Valhalla has got good viking raids. Perhaps they should've copy & pasted that into Skull & Bones.

That is what most Ubisoft games feel like.

Joe mentioned this in the video 1:09:30

They could have added them that's the thing. If they made a good game with paid resources, people would get them.

I’m pretty sure if this was released 2-3years ago,they would sell those AC4 costume as NFT

These game companies make no sense. They want to follow in the footsteps of GTA online but don't want to actually do what rockstar did to make it as successful as it was.

Lol

They already have the blueprint for it and failed miserably

Because they are making games for Journalists and focusing more on being woke, not what a true fan want and love

They touched it over and over again.

lucky for everyone sea of thieves is on sale and has way more content since it released

@@louniisbeing woke or not has nothing to do with this game being dogshit

They copied a mobile game instead.

Another iconic Angry Joe moment in the books! 😂😂😂

Such a weird decision

"What this bitch won't sell me chicken...?!"

Uncharted Waters Online v1.1

*FUCK!*

ubisoft is a joke ALL they had to do was make black flag 2 and it wouldve made billions but no they chose the lame ass route

When you're selling "timer savers", you are incentivized to waste the players' time. When you're selling powerful items, you're incentivized to piss off the players so much that they would just cave in and buy. Microtransactions are incompatible with game design, it's a conflict of interest.

no one cares

@@Azuria969 Hater.

Same 😁 I saw him on an AsmonGold video and remembered how much I loved AJ. Now my watch later is filled with stuff I want to catch up on. 😄

@@ugn154 exactly what I watched too!!

@@thatbigmacinthewindow5762 cool 👍 I've even rewatched some of his older videos, like the Skyrim and Dragon's Dogma reviews. Even better, I remembered his Outlast videos with OJ, so now I'm watching those too. 😆

Those Blueprints require King Pin I to unlock. Ubisoft was still trying to grind and ran out of time.

😂

More like they destroyed the blueprints so no one could ever attempt to replicate it.

they made the unsinkable

@@schuhsuppe7228 you cant sink what's already sunk

…oh my god What if THATS it. What if THATS why these studios are making live service games, to scare away pirating gamers!! You bastards!! You basically punishing everyone ELSE for it!!

​@@dereknight861AGAIN!! AS USUAL!!

@@dereknight861😂

Yup. Came here to say something similar

Ill not bother this game and keep playin rimworld with its whoever many A game it is

Goes to show how out of touch they are . Same with the new MLB on my PS5 rn, the crap windows I can click are so ridiculous . Another game, I forget what now, but was pushed on my PS5 Home Screen and it was just SO CRINGE . They have no idea what gamers actually want .

This is just an Assassin's Creed: Pirates port to pc

i know, I kinda feel bad for Singapore, they financed a lot of the game only for these developers to lie in their faces and made a mobile game and ran away with the money

🤣🤣

This needs more likes.

​@joeyzapata6786 no it doesn't he stole the joke from a dunkey vid

@@stormblahblah5589no he didn’t donkey stole that shit from him, they were in a discord call. Next time do your research

Thank you Jack Spa…I mean Captain Jack Sparrow.

Lolol

Dammit what a missed opportunity for a joke..god this game sucks the fun outta everything

"Gentlemen, what do crowbars do?"

*YAARRRRRRR* matey 😊I thought you deserved a pirate chant.

When the game is so bad you go to touch grass

So the game basically makes you rather play real-life than video games 😂

Poor memory allocation

This is peak Ubisoft unfortunately, gone are the days when they actually cared about crafting a great player experience, and even then have mutilated some of their older games like ghost recon wildlands with loot boxes.

🎵POLICE I SWEAR TO GOD🎵

I mean how are they gonna put a cash shop in a rayman platformer?

With what happened of Ancel's departure (allegations of inappropriate workplace behavior), it may as well be... especially since the Beyond Good and Evil 2 markering was having some headway... and now nothing.

@@bencomer2339 The same way nintendo added a cash shop to mario kart.

⁠@@bencomer2339 Of course they can’t make that platformer to cash shop since they think NFTs in cash shop are better 😂

​@@bencomer2339boom

No no, every sailboat comes with a standard issue stamina bar so you can’t utilize the wind to its maximum resource potential. You must abide by the speed limit of the open sea.

Yeah when I think about this game to maybe try it out just for the graphics, the stamina bar is the first thing that comes to my mind. It's so immersion breaking and tedious. Even most modern shooters like cod got rid of it and replaced it with hearing distance

From what I can tell it isn't even the Caribbean. Seems more Indian/ Indonesian waters.

No no no, everyone knows you physically hold the sail up with your hands (or ropes with bigger boats) and when you can't do it any more, you have to rest for a bit before you can do it again!

…you’re bang on

This. The only Ubisoft games I still play are like fucking over 10 years old at this point!

@@oliverboisen7475 same. Ironically I am currently playing Black Flag for the first time, and it pains how this "AAAA" garbage is described by devs as "best pirate game ever". And it's still beated by ~10 year old game which wasn't solely a self-standing pirate game...

I am absolutely comfortable with never owning any one of ubishite games ever 👍

The insatiable greed of these suits will never cease to amaze me. Disgusting.

wyd? Its amazing, most people havent tried it. But the issues are non issues really, its not that grindy and you can get awesome customizations. Just get the micro transactions, all games have them and its not that expensive.

That made so little sense, I legitimately needed to do a double take on that section of the video to make sure I was seeing and hearing him correctly. In WHAT world does something like this make on the drawing board let alone past development?

hehe 😅

No they will get promoted. Line went up and you bought it

@@TempoLOOKING Doubt, the game sold worst than Suicide Squad

Probably thought that "hey since pirates are operating the ship. They can get tired too! Let's put a stamina bar.". Likely the same person who allowed head winds in every direction.

G Ty is Iyfyzf

Hold my sexual harrassment cases........Ubisoft

The Triple A games industry is 95% of the time these days, no longer about making a good and fun game, it's about making a game that can hook you into only playing that one game, spending thousands of hours and money on it, and playing it forever... Until they shut down the servers, because they're all Always Online now and won't be accessible once servers are down 🙃

Black Flag was a gem of a game. Listening to the Sea Shanties while sailing was a fucking VIBE. Holy shit you actually felt like a badass pirate too.

@@fakskisyeah but these models don’t work especially when the gameplay sucks ass.

@@CommanderSuberox Yeah I know, I'm complaining about it too lol

It was such a mobile game thing to say 😂

Honestly I'm surprised that to this day nobody created a pirate game set in a fantasy setting for maximum pirate fantasy.

​@@CommanderBohnthat's what I started thinking about listening to this video. It's actually a great idea!

@@CommanderBohn Now would be the perfect time for one to emerge.

Such a mobile game as thing to say 😂 ain’t surprise if the game free to play

It's a suicide squad situation lmao

It needs to be lower

Quadruple A's all over the place.

If this what a Quad A title needs to be the bar has been set very very low, so im expecting an Octuple A game any month now then.@@kentonbaird1723

I just looked it up in the Epic Game Store and you're right lol. It's pretty fucking pathetic for both this game and Suicide Squad because both games are a month old and they already have the publishers being pressured to make any bit of money they can out of it. And what I think is more ironic is that both companies got outdone by their older titles. More players play Arkham Knight then SS and I'm sure that is the same case for AC Black Flag and Skull and Bones.

To be fair, the game doesn't take place in the Caribbean. It takes place in the Indian Ocean. It was made by Ubisoft Singapore, which is going off the history of piracy in the Indian Ocean during the Dutch colonization of Southeast Asia in the 1600's.

There's literally hundreds of sins this game has. There's no need to insert your wahmen rant. We get it, you don't have a girlfriend.

There were many women who were pirates. There were even female pirate captains. And if you were a woman pirate you got an equal vote and an equal share the same as a man on most ships.

​@@GregorySnipe No, there weren't Pirates were almost entirely men Stop lying and distoring reality

​@@GregorySnipeChinese pirate

They made Sea of Thieves look good

And Sea of Thieves is a game that has gotten better and better with each year, where as this live-service disaster will just be forgotten..

This makes sea of theives a QUADRUPLE A GAME!!

@@cuddlecakes7153 Sea of Thieves is good...

Actually had some great moments on Sea of Thieves. There’s problems with it, but it’s incredibly fun setting sail with your friends, cooking up some meat, getting drunk and singing songs all the while narrowly avoiding being plundered by another ship. Just fucking around on the ship in SoT looks infinitely more fun than anything this game can offer

Looks especially good while dressed as a pirate😂

ARE Y-ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIIIIND!

@@stevenesbitt3528 I agree. And how angry he is AS one.

Scramble the fighters!

Honestly, thatd be way doper. Traditional pirate fantasy game but your in a sub/uboat., going all the way up to a battleship Or maybe just like a fantasy take on wood and sails with submarines and needing to visually see em

It's so stupid for real. The first torpedoes didn't come about until over 200 years after the golden age of piracy. You started seeing them in use during the American Civil War and they weren't underwater torpedoes yet, but rather explosives attached to poles sticking out of small boats used for ramming enemy ships!

I can see that happening if it was like One Piece pirates, that would be cool

@@Jack1994hoo yeah if it leaned into the wacky fun theme like One Piece, I would totally be down for that.

By the time large ships do come out, NOBODY will be playing this game anyways.

@@crackalacs74 everyone's playing Helldivers II 😂😂

Give Sea of Thieves another shot maybe - game is great

I too would like to know.

I believe it is Sid Meier's Pirates

😂

Maybe he's got one of them there fancy tank-boats that can go anywhere. He's the Omni-General. Ever present on Land and at Sea. His power is terrifying. 😨😨😨

I’m pretty sure those diversity hire developers have better things to do, like complain on X, get triggered and call gamers problematic homophobic racist transphobic aka normal people. Seriously, have you seen those feminist ship captains and the main game art having weird people that look like some bunch of privileged Californian insufferable zoomers than anything looking even slightly pirate. That chubby Asian girl from that developer video doesn’t even have a clue what’s the difference between admiral, general or pirate.

Something may have gotten lost in translation and they meant Generaladmiral.... Nah who am I kidding, they just didn't give a shit.

😂😂

Nah, you just played MMOs that aren't really MMOs and more than likely they were Asian MMOs. Take BDO for example, what you said fits PERFECTLY into that "MMO". Now compare that to ESO ... Which is an actual MMO that's social and has activities everywhere to involve multiple players no matter the stage of their progress.

It's funny because "AA" and Indie studios are making FAR better products with a fraction of the budget and man-power. Honestly, no AAA game is worth a pre-order or even a day 1 purchase anymore.

@@Wulfen109I preordered starfield for 100$ just to play early and after that disaster I will never pre order a game ever again. That was the nail in the coffin for me.

@@sc_diemonds219You’ve got to learn the hard way sometimes!

@@sc_diemonds219 Mine was Cyberpunk

I’ve always just consider “AAA” to mean high budget and only really look into a game being called double or triple to know what quality to expect (I’m just more forgiving to the faults of a AA or indie game) when that guy came out with AAAA a to describe skull and bones and I tried the beta I couldn’t help but laugh to myself. I though the beta was decent and the game has promise but honestly playing skull and bones just makes me want to replay ac4 black flag idk.

Imagine the country singapore subsidizing this game. I can't wait to see their face, $100 millions only for 900 jobs and garbage product. They should ask for their money back.

That's the sort of stuff you see in a shovelware survival-crafting game, not in a.. ''AAAA'' game.

​@@NerevarOfficialRealwell seeing as this is the first "AAAA" game apparently this is what we should expect going forward...

@@iank472the fourth A being the government money.

​@@DMartinov Hahaha ha! 😅

AAAA games are supposed to be classics like Grand Theft Auto 5, Minecraft, Tetris, and Super Mario

Or make DEMAKE games play 2 is very fun or remakes like Demons Souls

​@@trithientran7146 modern games by AAA are Starfield or movies of PlayStation Instead of Elden Ring o Baldurs Gate 3 ( well this one is like 6 years of develop)

I think AA games are the best future for the industry. Large enough to have greater “scale” than indies but small enough budget to not be filled with AAA (and “AAAA”) bullshit. Something like Robocop Rogue City was a ton of fun despite the budget because it was just me, being Robocop, shooting bad guys in the dick while doing other police work in the 2.5th movie. No bullshit.

So indies?

Or it means prepare to get your expectation subverted

Forget everything you know = Forget this game exists

Something went so badly at Ubisoft that the people in charge seem to think video game = mobile game.

Fave fergitton who to wirte

Wtf is fortnite health bars

A green bar?

@@manwithballsonarm6775 like how the game has too much UI. Like everything has a health bar, and it’s up and in your face like you can’t just, yk, see the ship or whatever you’re shooting is damaged

Noobs don't get it​@@haydennr6

Fortnite has the trademark for green health bars?

Glad you're enjoying it. Obviously it hits some spots that people like👍

Makes me think are these AAA companies going into a 40k style age of strife where the technological achievements they had a decade ago are just lost to time or something and they're using the in game store and season passes to hide what was lost? They can't make a climbing or combat system to walk around your ship but they have 100s of in game models the majority aren't going to see. Makes me think how few developers that are not in the art department that are holding the spaghetti code all together.

​@@cookie4wookiee read the whole comment lol

Had me there at first in the beginning paragraph 🤣

You had us in the first half not gonna lie!

He didn't just used visuals from SoT, but music too. Main theme in his first segment, and medley a played on in game instruments later on.

The wost part in playing both black flag and rogue, they had missions where you played as the npc ships (frigate in Black flag, Man o war in Rogue) and they showed that they were practically a DLC away from all being fully playable. That's the real heartbreak that they were so close to the finish line 10 years ago.

Black flag is still the best game hands down, and they have it in countless games especially black flag 😂

what happened behind the scenes for it to go so wrong?

No one correlates this game with Singapore

Many Ubisoft games are rife with design decisions designed to milk the player instead of providing a fun experience. They games are sullied by greed, they feel dirty to play.

@@bridgesbane7032that’s a bit of an over exaggeration

​@@rigulur I imagine they got the Ubisoft special. "Here's the plan you get the game like THIS" "Sir, this is a store schematic" "Glad to see you understand, you have a week to finish while Steve from management breathes near your neck and makes you overtime to keep schedule, good luck"

Yep and they make it worse.

It's obvious all the top developers have aged and opened up their own companies or freelance, whilst new ones don't know how to source code and just know how to use pre built assets on modern engines so they can't innovate. Then there's the blatant management cancer that is all about corporate appearance that plagues every modern business. These execs were never gamers and the idea of what their audience is is now gone forever. Very few old studios remain that have their past identity and mostly the new ones show promise until they inevitably fall to the same date of losing top developers and hiring useless top managers

@@yazzzlet3549 yep its that easy look the people they interview not a clue

Sea of thieves did it

All of that is exactly what Sea of Thieves has done over the years.

@@oldspice051The two big problems with Sea of Thieves is that it’s filled to the brim with sociopaths, and you basically need to play with a group of friends. Solo play is not really an option, though God knows I tried to play it that way.

They listened to the desk fans in their office. That's why owning a desk fan is more enjoyable than this game.

​@@Mac_Omegaly All they heard was "brrrrrrrrr", which is like the noise I hear when the characters speak

We needed a new meme. Keep it up

​@@jltheking3 I'm not saying there's anything wrong with offering subsidies. I'm saying the SG govt did so without first taking steps to organically nurture homegrown game development talent and cultivate a society where art isn't viewed as frivolous and impractical. When it comes to art, Singapore has an abundance of money but a lack of talent, whereas places like Hollywood have an overabundance of talent but not enough money to give them all jobs (hence the foreign subsidies). When it comes to addressing Singapore's lack of artistry, simply throwing money at the problem isn't going to work, and this game is testament to that fact. You can spend millions in taxpayer and foreign corporate money and still end up with a pile of garbage. And now the game development industry in SG has been humiliated on the global stage. When you say you work there do you mean Ubisoft Singapore? So you're essentially confirming the "alleged" report that Ubisoft took money from the govt and that's why they couldn't cancel this stinker? That's hilarious. Thanks for the confirmation. It actually gives me even more satisfaction to know that Ubisoft SG devs are watching this review, cos you are the ones who need to hear this criticism. Last question: did you all know while working on this game that it would be complete garbage?

@@jltheking3You sound like that Starfield dev whining about how hard game development is. No one cares dude. It is not the responsibility of the consumer or critic to understand how hard it is to make whatever they consume. They simply judge the final product and choose whether to spend their money on it or not. If my plane crashes can Boeing tell my family, "hey you don't understand how hard and complex aerospace engineering and maintenance is. Airbus can do it cos blah blah blah but most of us can't because blah blah." If you go to a steak restaurant and receive a burnt steak can the chef say, "making a steak in these working conditions is phenomenally hard, you don't understand." No, the consumer/end user shouldn't need to understand anything beyond "this product/service is worth my money." Y'all "AAA" devs sound so immature and insecure when you bring up Larian and BG3. BG3 aside, there are plenty of great games that were made by AAA/"quadruple A" studios that were beholden to shareholders and facing the same challenges y'all did (and probably more, without govt subsidies). It's very easy to see your situation as unique when you need to pardon your own failure. And sure, every game and its development process is unique, but being a unique snowflake doesn't excuse anyone from what is expected of them. And as your Singaporean parents probably told you too, "you should compare yourself to the best in your class, not the worst." And even if we understood on a deeper level why so many bad games get made, does that mean we shouldn't criticise? No. A bad game is a bad game regardless of the circumstances surrounding its development, and consumers have a right to know what they should spend their money on. So Joe and other critics are still doing the right thing, and absolutely nothing changes if we knew everything you know. Should I buy a bad game because it was made with suboptimal datelines, lacking manpower, the right skillset, the right team, lacking funding, and needing to fight the money people to get the game out the door? No. Knowing all that changes nothing. Not saying this game's failure is your fault specifically as a dev. Chances are Ubisoft management is mostly to blame. But you don't have to jump to their defence with the whole "boohoo video games are hard" argument. It's so played out at this point and for the reasons I've stated, I stress again, no one cares, nor should they.

@@jltheking3 You were the one who brought up the challenges of game development buddy. That didn't even have anything to do with my original comment. But I see that you don't know how to offer a rebuttal, so you resort to personal attacks on me and this channel's entire viewership (which includes you). How very mature and adult of you. But admittedly, very on brand for a Skull n Bones dev.😂🤡

Hollywood... talent? You high?​@@naviuhyuaehiushvg

​@@naviuhyuaehiushvgguessing he deleted his comments

The funny thing is that the thing that Joe liked which is the whale? That's from Black Flag, not Skull and Bones lol

Replace player engagement with diversity and inclusion and you would be right

I'm always shocked what kind of false advertising is allowed in the USA. Those PR people in the video are straight up lying through their teeth. Those are downright illegal in my country. Marketing in the USA is like the Wild Wild West, anything goes.

@@One.Zero.One101 We call it hype.

That's not a new thing, they didn't say anything there as it's an old saying. Also it's not necessarily always true.

@@voidoxyou sound fun

@@ItsAlpacaMan aww, fanboy mad at facts and reality.

@@voidox I don't think his point was to "glaze" the helldivers studio, it is just a very recent well received videogame. The main point he was trying to get at is that big developers make these games that cater to all types of people but in the end, they often fail to fully understand and the wants and needs of their consumers.

A what?

@@TrickyTalon23 Ubisoft Called this thing a "AAAA Game"

@@TrickyTalon23 they call it the first "quadruple A" game. so yes. it's the first 4A crap.

@@TrickyTalon23did he stutter?

@@01oo011sigh….its a joke that went over your head,

It’s well aware that most of those devs who made AC4 and so on are gone, they can’t even recreate and copy and paste what was already there ☠️

Your *AAAASS*

They just didn't care after many years of mismanagement. They had to ship this game just because they recieved govt (Singapore?) funding. Ubisoft needs a massive change in leadership.

@@EternalNightingaleso it was doomed to fail cause thats what we were toldwe were gettin for years…… 🏴‍☠️