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Skyrim: 5 Things They Never Told You About The Falmer 

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Skyrim is a land home to a nearly endless number of different creatures. Perhaps one of the most interesting, are the Falmer. A spooky, goblin-like type of monster that inhabit much of Skyrim's caves and underground, where they prey on unsuspecting adventures and occasionally sally from at night to harass the realms of mankind. However, unlike most creatures in Skyrim, the Falmer weren't always so aggressive and unsightly. They once had a great and massive civilization that spread across Skyrim and prospered for thousands of years. It wasn't until the arrival of the Atmorans in the Merethic era that these once majestic elves had to retreat underground and embrace a new lifestyle. It goes without saying, Skyrim's Falmer are a very interesting subject. So today we'll be taking a look at five things you (probably) didn't know about the Falmer of the Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim.

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@EpicNate
@EpicNate 4 года назад
Discord! discord.gg/ZMyxAZR
@greeneyeballs
@greeneyeballs 4 года назад
TheEpicNate315 Your videos have been getting way more creative. I think my favorite video by you was the giant one.
@TRUEDJRI
@TRUEDJRI 4 года назад
You have sealed ya fate!
@juliengosselin4277
@juliengosselin4277 4 года назад
I don't think the fact that the "Song of the Return" books were ritten just after the Companions win over the Elves make it any worse: as a winner in a war, you want indeed to make you look good, but do you think that peoples in Atmora would be like :"yeah, it's cool that you put a slap on the wrist to thoose who massacred our kind"? No! they would be like :"What, you burnt the men alive and flayed their wives in front of each others? Seriously, that's all you found?!? YOU AT LEAST RAPED THE CHILDRENS, RIGHT?!?" like atmoran would rather ear the snow elves got what they deserve plus a *little* extra piss on the wounds, i think, and the author of the books would have wanted to satisfy his readers. Sorry for the spelling/grammatical mistakes, English isn't my primary language.
@Eljace-ro5oz
@Eljace-ro5oz 4 года назад
TheEpicNate315 Enjoyed your video as always but about the pale lady part I don’t dive into the lore some much but if you travel around in those falmer infested dungeons there’s female falmer mages that never did transcend into the wisp mother. What if those wisp mothers weren’t elves but some guardians that protected the falmer still to this day the elder scrolls and I think the book mentioned that the companions trapped the pale lady instead of slain during her. I don’t know if you want to you could explore it and maybe save it for another video. Anyway keep making those videos later
@drmoney890
@drmoney890 4 года назад
Your my favorite skyrim RU-vidr 😜❤
@MaiqTheLiarProductions
@MaiqTheLiarProductions 4 года назад
M’aiq once enterd the forgotten vale. Very majestic place
@justsomeguy1019
@justsomeguy1019 4 года назад
This is the 3rd time I've seen you and you lies😑
@bronsonpatten7188
@bronsonpatten7188 4 года назад
AK-SICKIE 2112 M’aiq does not lie
@Khaotic_Karibo
@Khaotic_Karibo 4 года назад
Go bother someone else M'aiq is tired
@johnd.rockefeller4041
@johnd.rockefeller4041 4 года назад
M'aiq The Liar I’m a box, get in.
@humpsterdumpster9289
@humpsterdumpster9289 4 года назад
I have been in multiple places at the same time.
@CalamityDiamond
@CalamityDiamond 4 года назад
Have you heard of the Snow Elves? I thought not, it's not a story the Dwemer would tell you.
@Grinnar
@Grinnar 4 года назад
Fun fact, the Plaugeis book is fantastic.
@kiraavery6514
@kiraavery6514 4 года назад
Made my day
@solitudeguard5318
@solitudeguard5318 4 года назад
Is it possible to learn this Thu"um?
@grayfox6930
@grayfox6930 4 года назад
This is all great ☝
@dwaynejohnson9961
@dwaynejohnson9961 4 года назад
I didn’t like it so the likes would stay at 69
@Grinnar
@Grinnar 4 года назад
I'm a bit disappointed that there weren't any special clothing or armor with the Vale hides.
@JaelaOrdo
@JaelaOrdo 4 года назад
Same here, that was really disappointing. Would’ve loved to see some unique leather armor or maybe some nice robes
@couchbear6108
@couchbear6108 4 года назад
There's a mod for that
@abithalynn3563
@abithalynn3563 4 года назад
@@couchbear6108 what's it called? Is it on xbox?
@couchbear6108
@couchbear6108 4 года назад
bethesda.net/en/mods/skyrim/mod-detail/4152162 PS4 version too, I have no tried this mod
@checkcheck1579
@checkcheck1579 4 года назад
now that you mention it, Im also disappointed.
@writer5790
@writer5790 4 года назад
Fun fact: At this time Solstheim was still a part of Skyrim, not an island.
@fugo5464
@fugo5464 4 года назад
Yes
@TySama0
@TySama0 4 года назад
Which time?
@eminemre2210
@eminemre2210 4 года назад
@@TySama0 he probably meant the time when falmers weren't falmers
@TySama0
@TySama0 4 года назад
@@eminemre2210, that is specified.
@jessicaclough8977
@jessicaclough8977 4 года назад
Hi Cicero I still can’t get past ur ice troll
@endgamer3000
@endgamer3000 4 года назад
“The more I research this guy the more I realize he’s no hero, he’s a bad guy who won.” Nate, that right there is a perfect example of “history is written by the winners” phrase.
@skyro0412
@skyro0412 4 года назад
Except that the Snow Elves started this all, by attacking Saarthal, the first settlement. They didn't like the idea of having more humans (which they previously kindly greeted in Skyrim) and just killed almost everybody there. Ysgramor avenged his fellow Nords.
@endgamer3000
@endgamer3000 4 года назад
Skyro is that so? If that the case I apologize for the mistake. Love only few elder scrolls games (Oblivion and Skyrim) so don’t quite know the lore.
@keltdood
@keltdood 4 года назад
Skyro I thought the Atmorans came in search of conquest and destruction. Doesn’t sound bad to me. I like Nordic history. Sounds fun
@skyro0412
@skyro0412 4 года назад
@@keltdood They came to settle there. I think their homeland was too cold or something like that. They had a peaceful relationship with the Snow Elves at the start. Until the Nord grew too big and discovered the Eye of Magnus in Saarthal.
@blackbird_entropy
@blackbird_entropy 4 года назад
@@keltdood I think there is part of the story we don't know and there were more fights as the history books would describe. It's like American history: there were peaceful settlers, trading with the Natives, but just as many if not more violent ones who saw themselves as conquerors. We never get the snow elves' perspective and that is always a bad sign
@alexisnotarianni2617
@alexisnotarianni2617 4 года назад
When I first encountered a couple of falmers in a cave I misread the name as "farmer" and was deeply confused and unsettled for a few minutes
@thefiregodzapp
@thefiregodzapp 4 года назад
Alexis Notarianni nothing is scarier than encountering a farmer.
@metetural9140
@metetural9140 4 года назад
Falmer: *_It's almost harvesting season!_*
@andrewrauch5807
@andrewrauch5807 4 года назад
@@metetural9140 Good one, that is the funniest thing that I have heard all day!
@metetural9140
@metetural9140 4 года назад
@@andrewrauch5807 shit I misquoted it
@andrewrauch5807
@andrewrauch5807 4 года назад
@@metetural9140 That's okay, it's still funny as hell!
@sirgideonofnir6840
@sirgideonofnir6840 4 года назад
Snow prince: what is your name girl? Finna: finna, finna mess you up bro
4 года назад
nice
@jackgoff5174
@jackgoff5174 4 года назад
nice
@solitudeguard5318
@solitudeguard5318 4 года назад
You’ve violated the law of Skyrim and her people, what say you in your defense?
@LdashJ
@LdashJ 4 года назад
Solitude Guard it’s been a long time since I’ve seen a good fight
@xxCrimsonSpiritxx
@xxCrimsonSpiritxx 4 года назад
Noice
@victorevans2867
@victorevans2867 4 года назад
You didn't mention that Yisgremor(sp?) tried to settle in Skyrim before the war with the snow elves up by Winterhold, location is visited in the college quest line, when he left to bring more settlers he returned to find all the settlers, including his own son, left behind slaughtered by the snow elves. Night of tears
@becmoss
@becmoss 4 года назад
Imagine being a snow elf and find out you would one day become a falmer
@metetural9140
@metetural9140 4 года назад
They are already Falmer. The Falmer you speak of are just blind feral versions of the Falmer
@becmoss
@becmoss 4 года назад
@@metetural9140 I am well aware. It was a joke
@metetural9140
@metetural9140 4 года назад
@@becmoss yes I know, i was just telling you that to see if you knew. Some people respond like that and other people look at me like I just told them Santa isn't real
@McPlayer8t
@McPlayer8t 4 года назад
Wait what you sayin bout Santa? 😂 For simplicity’s sake, the normal Snow Elves are generally called Snow Elves, and the monstrosified version are known as Falmer. The Snow Elves that are left that we see during Dawnguard don’t like to be called Falmer for that reason, as opposed to High Elves, Dark Elves and Wood Elves generally preferring to be called Altmer, Dunmer and Bosmer.
@Doralga
@Doralga 4 года назад
The snow elf preist in dawngaurd agrees
@ledanoir1239
@ledanoir1239 4 года назад
When I first met falmer I was like: Oh, ofcourse, dwarves were all killed by goblins, like the mines of Moria
@smass8586
@smass8586 4 года назад
I assumed they were what became of the dwarfs
@EMPERORTUNGSTEN
@EMPERORTUNGSTEN 4 года назад
It’s a similar story lol.
@ledanoir1239
@ledanoir1239 4 года назад
@@smass8586 second thought
@justnoob8141
@justnoob8141 4 года назад
Smas S858 my thought when I heard about their story
@corenko
@corenko 4 года назад
You think that I am going to watch this at 3 AM? *of course I am*
@solitudeguard5318
@solitudeguard5318 4 года назад
I was once an all-nighter like you, but then I took a sleep pill to the stomach.
@grayfox6930
@grayfox6930 4 года назад
Were you at? its nine pm for me.
@falinestixiaolong9691
@falinestixiaolong9691 4 года назад
@@grayfox6930 Europe. Probably UK or Spain.
@squiddle5193
@squiddle5193 4 года назад
Aye
@fugo5464
@fugo5464 4 года назад
Lmao for me rn its 3 am :p
@SabreArchon
@SabreArchon 4 года назад
I’d also like to present a theory of Wispmothers. They definitely seem to be Elven in nature, but they seem to actually be Ghosts of Falmer women who suffered tragic and violent deaths as they all seem to be violently angry and they actually have faces that closely resemble Falmer. As little as we know about the Falmer, we do know they had an affinity for Frost Magic we also know a lot of their women were priestesses, mages, and warriors just as is with every race so it could further support the idea that Wispmothers are simply the angry spirits of Falmer Women who suffered tragic and violent deaths.
@thegreattotemaster
@thegreattotemaster 4 года назад
I once had a dream that contained the line: "You're a Falmer! Like Steve Buscemi!"
@failedabortion8734
@failedabortion8734 4 года назад
What?
@thegreattotemaster
@thegreattotemaster 4 года назад
@@failedabortion8734 My dreams are weird. :P
@failedabortion8734
@failedabortion8734 4 года назад
@@thegreattotemaster all dreams are in a sense
@thestranger8474
@thestranger8474 4 года назад
Nobody: That angry girl: Im Fina throw my sword lol feeling cute The snow elf army: *distressed tom face*
@jkgf4671
@jkgf4671 4 года назад
Yeah, that history sounds like total bs. 12 years old girl, that holds sword and THROWS i... And pierce his armor... Yeah... This either be deadra or aedra or its total bs...
@xxvaltielxx1789
@xxvaltielxx1789 4 года назад
@@jkgf4671 maybe she was had magic and when her parent died she blew up and used magic to kill the dude
@mistertaz94
@mistertaz94 4 года назад
@@jkgf4671 she was a squire, meaning a trainee. Odds are that she was there to keep handong equipment for her mother and given Atmoran physiology, she may well have had the brute strength to do so
@jkgf4671
@jkgf4671 4 года назад
@@mistertaz94 This was their king so he definitely had the best armor they have. So this child throwing some ordinary sword piercing that armor is ridiculous. It would not only require insane amount of strength but also agility. If she would throw dagger - ok, that would work. But a CHILD, THROWING a SWORD that PIERCED HIGH QUILITY armor, that probably was also ENCHANTED since it was armor for their leader that boosted their morale. If that was mere child and not some aedra, deadra i call it bs.
@insaincaldo
@insaincaldo 4 года назад
@@jkgf4671 Pfft... no regular 12 year old girl, a Nord and that armor was flimsy elven make.
@CipherVoheim
@CipherVoheim 4 года назад
Didn't the Snow elves have a treaty with the Nords that was violated when Sarthal was sacked in the infamous "night of tears"? When you think about it; Maybe Ysgramor was slightly justified in his ways. Not that genocide is justifiable!
@s7Matt
@s7Matt 4 года назад
Nord justice was served. That's all, right?
@nealdalton1576
@nealdalton1576 4 года назад
Most elves are dicks it is justified
@CandylandAngel
@CandylandAngel 4 года назад
We know there was a treaty and at some point tension rose to eventual war. However, we don't know which side violated the treaty. The Night of Tears was the result of the violation of the treaty, but wasn't the violation itself.
@andrewrauch5807
@andrewrauch5807 4 года назад
Do you not realize what the Eye of Magnus was CAPABLE of. IT COULD HAVE DESTROYED ALL OF CREATION! Look at what it almost did at the College of Winterhold, they even said that if the Eye's power was not contained it could destroy Nirn!
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 4 года назад
Agreed they attacked the settlers therefore they deserved to a degree ysgramors vengeance
@fordprefect06
@fordprefect06 4 года назад
They use their children in war because they are immortal in skyrim. Makes perfect sense to me.
@christopherrumbold9178
@christopherrumbold9178 4 года назад
"He's simply a bad guy, that won." Thats one of the best things about the elder scrolls. There is no bad guy or good guy in war. War is War. The Snow elves Genocided the Atmorans. They came back and did it even harder. Neither Side is good. Neither Side is bad. Its all just War.
@EMPERORTUNGSTEN
@EMPERORTUNGSTEN 4 года назад
Christopher Rumbold You can never be a good guy if you’re involved with war.
@hoodagooboy5981
@hoodagooboy5981 4 года назад
War.... war never changes.
@keltdood
@keltdood 4 года назад
firemonster221 in the minds of the Atmorans, they were the good guys. I don’t remember the name of the diety off the top of my head, but conquest is apart of Atmoran/Nordic way of life. I guess it really depends on whose side your on. From a neutral perspective, both sides had good and faults. I’m siding with Ysgramor, just because I like the idea of bringing down a battleaxe to the gleaming heads of elven kind. #killtheelves
@genildomiranda1690
@genildomiranda1690 4 года назад
Both sides are bad, warcrimes are a thing
@genildomiranda1690
@genildomiranda1690 4 года назад
@@EMPERORTUNGSTEN evil wins when the good man does nothing being peaceful is only good to a measure
@TrueTrueBehemoth
@TrueTrueBehemoth 4 года назад
I've never been this early before Are.. are those... dwemer over there?
@IndependentOreo
@IndependentOreo 4 года назад
I really hope this makes top comment
@trurookiegaming6998
@trurookiegaming6998 4 года назад
Um... The uh, dwemer went missing long ago...
@ChunLo21
@ChunLo21 4 года назад
@@trurookiegaming6998 That's the joke
@metetural9140
@metetural9140 4 года назад
Nah that's just Yagram... well yeah, yeah it is
@eyereign5730
@eyereign5730 4 года назад
@@metetural9140 thanks, I was trying to remember his name earlier!
@grefsteel3989
@grefsteel3989 4 года назад
Those whisp mothers indeed always seem to be in and around ice and seemingly random (non-marked) dwarven ruins, even in outside encounters.
@nicksanchez4035
@nicksanchez4035 4 года назад
Last time I was this Early, Nate wasn't even Epic yet.
@Khaotic_Karibo
@Khaotic_Karibo 4 года назад
Last time i was this early Nate did not exist yet
@solitudeguard5318
@solitudeguard5318 4 года назад
You have violated the laws of Skyrim and her people, what say you in your defense?
@Khaotic_Karibo
@Khaotic_Karibo 4 года назад
@@solitudeguard5318 Wait, I know you.
@zerosparky5996
@zerosparky5996 4 года назад
I don’t like where this is going
@l_3585
@l_3585 4 года назад
I will devour you’re souls
@anidiotwithinternetconnect8011
@anidiotwithinternetconnect8011 4 года назад
Only just realised why wuthard is especially deadly to Elfs if the companions told me i didn't listen.
@null7493
@null7493 4 года назад
It's going to be a bright day in soul cairn when Nate runs out of facts
@chikasnotmadjustdisappoint6266
@chikasnotmadjustdisappoint6266 4 года назад
Coldharbour will boil over when that happens
@NyuuMikuru1
@NyuuMikuru1 4 года назад
5 things in Soul Cairn you missed.
@M008
@M008 4 года назад
Es6 will be out by then
@McPlayer8t
@McPlayer8t 4 года назад
Camelworks made a great video on the soul cairn, if you have the time for his videos.
@waddle_plop
@waddle_plop 4 года назад
I’ll believe that when whales fly! Oh wait-
@sion9092
@sion9092 4 года назад
"He was no hero, he was just a bad guy that won" Dang. Dang Edit: not implying he was a villain. Just appreciating the quote 😂
@Malsypoo
@Malsypoo 4 года назад
the victor dictates history
@philburtthecommunistlizard5975
@philburtthecommunistlizard5975 4 года назад
He wasn't a bad guy. The snow elves sacked an Atmoran settlement, Saarthal, unprovoked. Only three humans made it out alive, them being Ysgramor and his sons. Anyone would want to wipe out the Falmer in his position.
@nikik5567
@nikik5567 4 года назад
Sion909 he was by no means a villain
@sion9092
@sion9092 4 года назад
@@philburtthecommunistlizard5975 no matter how many times I play this game, it's the amount of effort put into lore that I adore
@philburtthecommunistlizard5975
@philburtthecommunistlizard5975 4 года назад
@@sion9092 Same. All of the elder scrolls games (with the exceptions of arena and the spinoffs) have tremendous amounts of lore put into them. The world feels so realistic too.
@yuagiin
@yuagiin 4 года назад
The 500 companions weren't the first settlers in Skyrim, and Windhelm wasn't the first city. You're forgetting the Night of Tears, the elves sacked Saarthal unprovoked and Ysgramor returned with the 500 to win the war that the elves had started.
@nikik5567
@nikik5567 4 года назад
Yuagin I think he meant the first still standing city
@nemerly_00
@nemerly_00 4 года назад
It is also believed the Snow Elves had planned to exterminate all Nords in Skyrim, but Ysgramor turned that around. Of course, that doesn't mean the Nords were innocent of "War Crimes" - not that such a thing existed at that time.
@metetural9140
@metetural9140 4 года назад
500 companions my arse. Ysgramor probably brought 10,000 if he wanted, and did, beat the Falmer. And they definitely didn't stay on the same boat
@nemerly_00
@nemerly_00 4 года назад
@@metetural9140 I believe the 500 companions is more for Nord boasting. I think it was more likely 500 Ship Captains with a full crew and fighting battalion for each ship.
@yuagiin
@yuagiin 4 года назад
@@nikik5567 Saarthal is technically still standing.
@RichBensen
@RichBensen 4 года назад
I'd say Ysgramor's genocide against the Snow Elves was understandable (not necessarily justified) in light of the Snow Elves' unprovoked destruction of Saarthal. It may or may not have been excessive since we have no way of knowing the Snow Elves' motivations or whether they meant to stop after Saarthal or persue their own genocidal campaign against the rest of the Atmoran settlers. It seems clear that Ysgramor thought it likely that the elves were set on the latter course, in which case it would have been a war for the survival of his people.
@Practitioner_of_Diogenes
@Practitioner_of_Diogenes 4 года назад
"Ysgramor was no hero". >Forgets that Ysgramor's only surviving family was two of his sons, the rest likely died by the Snow Elves. That lone, being only three survivors of a massacre because "too much population", would make him a hero in my book. "Just a bad guy that won". >Wanted to take his family away from all the civil wars that were happening on Atmora, but even his family was taken on a foreign land. I wouldn't say that's a bad guy. He's honestly more gray than you'd think.
@andrewrauch5807
@andrewrauch5807 4 года назад
You wish, Ysgramor could have waved a white flag and promised that the Eye of Magnus would have been buried forever. They would have all lived in peace and probably have become an unstoppable Empire!
@Just_in_case_i_die..._
@Just_in_case_i_die..._ 4 года назад
Ysgramor literally slaughtered an entire peaceful race that would've been passive if they actually tried to communicate with them
@andrewrauch5807
@andrewrauch5807 4 года назад
@@Just_in_case_i_die..._ THANK YOU!!!!!!!
@Practitioner_of_Diogenes
@Practitioner_of_Diogenes 4 года назад
@@Just_in_case_i_die..._ They did communicate with them, or did you miss that part?
@Just_in_case_i_die..._
@Just_in_case_i_die..._ 4 года назад
@@Practitioner_of_Diogenes they might have communicated with them in the beginning, but it s doesn't excuse the fact that an entire peaceful race was SLAUGHTERED and made into SLAVES for utterly no reason. Imagine you were living a peaceful, happy, prosperous life with your wife/husband and your children, and all of a sudden some guy with a big axe rushes into your Homeland with 500 other guys and they kill everyone you know and love- aswell as make your race slaves to build a city THEY wanted on YOUR Homeland. And on top of all of that, your brothers the Dwemmer wouldn't help you unless you ate a strange fungus that made you blind against your will. So, your choices are 1. Get brutally slaughtered by some dudes with beards 2. Turn into a slave for the dudes with beards THEN get brutally slaughtered 3. Eat a mushroom that slowly turns you blind and primal
@kberrie38
@kberrie38 4 года назад
Ysgramor was originally friendly with the snow elves, even learning from them and using what he learned to develop the nord written language. If the elves hadn't committed the Night of Tears at Saarthal, they'd probably still be around. Imagine if they had just talked to Ys about the Eye of Magnus in there instead of turning their back on the truce they had with the nords and killing everyone at Saarthal.
@ianfantauzzi7703
@ianfantauzzi7703 4 года назад
Ysgramor was also very angry. One book that wasn't mentioned is the "Night of Tears" that tells of the destruction of Sarthaal (we've all been there) that was a surprise attack by the Snow Elves.
@xanderhenthorn596
@xanderhenthorn596 4 года назад
I remember killing a falmer at level 7. It took many tries, and it was my first run and first time ever seeing them.
@Whlsperer
@Whlsperer 4 года назад
Ive killed the dragon priest Volsung. At level 5 with a steel battleaxe. That was about 5 years ago when I didnt love dragon priest lore. Same with Krosis... I screamed untill I pushed him of the cliff and watched him die.
@xanderhenthorn596
@xanderhenthorn596 4 года назад
@@Whlsperer I remember Krosis. My first one. I wore that mask with pride... Took me forever. Ended up using the giant and mammoth. Poor giant didn't make it.
@princeniccolo8299
@princeniccolo8299 4 года назад
Let’s not forget that this all happened because of “The Night of Tears” where the Snow Elves sacked Saarthal unprovoked, and possibly simply to curb the human population growth. Or it may have had something to do with the orb down there. Either way it’s not as simple as “Ysgramor bad,” and more like, “Ysgramor mad.”
@odysseussavvakis5396
@odysseussavvakis5396 4 года назад
Agreed but after that he didn't have to be so cruel to the slaves. And yet he was because he felt like he should or something. Makes you think how many times a hero has become the villain irl and we will never find out because he/she writes history.
@asherandai1000
@asherandai1000 4 года назад
@@odysseussavvakis5396 A guy comes in and murders your whole family.... How kind are you going to be to him? For a lot of people, if they have the chance, they will inflict as much suffering as they can and consider it justice for the suffering he inflicted.
@sp0chi106
@sp0chi106 4 года назад
@@asherandai1000 I'm not justifying this 100% but since when is genocide a reasonable response to something not nearly as detrimental as genocide?
@asherandai1000
@asherandai1000 4 года назад
@@sp0chi106 Likewise I'm not justifying it, both sides are at fault here. I am however curious as to what you mean by "something not nearly as detrimental as genocide"? The Snow Elves attempted to wipe out the people who had settled there. In fact, aside from Ysgramor who escaped, isn't that exactly what they did? The story is a little unclear on certain points... as I recall the settlers were fleeing war. For all anyone knew they were the only ones remaining, and the Snow elves wiped them out to a man with literally zero provocation (as far as we know). Granted it turned out the war had ended and there were other survivors. But frankly that's only relevant to the fact Ysgramor was able to come back and do to the Snow Elves what they had done to his people. Furthermore Atmora as far as we know is now an uninhabitable frozen wasteland. Had the Snow Elves won, they very much would have committed Genocide having killed the only people to have escaped. Frankly I think your splitting hairs saying one is worse then the other. I can't see any justification behind your claims personally. One group wiped out another group, and in turn were wiped out themselves. And if you really want to go that deep into splitting hairs, well then Ysgramor and his people didn't commit genocide either. The Snow Elves survived by fleeing to the Dwemer. Based on the available information the Snow Elves were the aggressors, they betrayed their original offer, and they paid the price. An eye for eye.
@gremlininblue2601
@gremlininblue2601 4 года назад
9:46 Oh, thank God, I was confused as hell the first time one of those tiny shits came running at me
@eyereign5730
@eyereign5730 4 года назад
LMAO I thought it was a child and I felt bad until I remembered Braith, then I was like, "f* this mini mer," and I bashed its head off with a dragon's leg bone. 😂
@GCJACK83
@GCJACK83 4 года назад
Caves beneath Dawnstar? There's the Dark Brotherhood's HQ after Falkreath gets wrecked.
@cobaltprime9467
@cobaltprime9467 4 года назад
To this day, these things scare the crap out of me.
@EMPERORTUNGSTEN
@EMPERORTUNGSTEN 4 года назад
Riflemutt Prime Pretty creepy looking to be fair!
@cobaltprime9467
@cobaltprime9467 4 года назад
THE ISOLATION GAMES I still remember running into them for the first time it was actually into Blackreach to get the Elder Scroll, terrible place to first find them. I was terrified and horribly under-leveled. Also there was a Centurion by them at one point, that wasn’t fun.
@EMPERORTUNGSTEN
@EMPERORTUNGSTEN 4 года назад
@@cobaltprime9467 Centurion definitely aren't going to make that encounter any more fun my friend.
@ferallumberjack4310
@ferallumberjack4310 4 года назад
And now you shall face my infanttree! 'sweeps his hand in a big reveal to a forest of saplings'
@yuhyuh7603
@yuhyuh7603 4 года назад
First Wispmother that murdered me did so cos I was walking around staring at the wisps, wondering what they were.
@robertmazziottesr5741
@robertmazziottesr5741 4 года назад
And Todd Howard is in quarantine like the rest of us oh, I almost crashed my car listening to that!
@totallynotmozziesaccount8506
@totallynotmozziesaccount8506 4 года назад
Shouldn't you have been inside?
@GreatSmithanon
@GreatSmithanon 4 года назад
Ysgramor was still a hero. Remember the events that started things in the first place. The Falmer beseiged a peaceful human settlement, murdering everyone inside and taking Ysgramor and others as slaves. He was enslaved for part of his youth, and then escaped to return to Atmora and seek help there, then returning with a conquering army. In his position I'd probably want to kill all the Falmer too. Hell, the empire itself exists as a result of humans enslaved by the Ayleid elves revolting and overthrowing their masters. It seems that throughout Tamriel's history, when elves have supremacy, they use it to enslave men. The Thalmor are attempting to do so again.
@blevins3053
@blevins3053 4 года назад
Yeah I can't really feel bad for genocidal elves getting wiped out
@metetural9140
@metetural9140 4 года назад
Whilst Ysgramor and Tiber Septim aren't heroes, neither are the Falmer and Ayleids. Well now that I think about it, Tiber Septim was a real evil prick. He used a Numidiam to murder a bunch of innocent people
@andrewrauch5807
@andrewrauch5807 4 года назад
Do you not pay attention to detail. What did the Eye of Magnus almost do to the College of Winterhold, IT ALMOST DESTROYED IT! Would you want an impulsive and not patient race wielding something with that kind of power! Secondly, the Snow Elves enslaved the human race because they knew that they had to keep an eye on them or they'd blow up the world! Third, the Ayleid's did not just enslave humans, THEY USED THEM IN F***ING NECROMANTIC RITUALS WHICH ALL ELVES SEE AS EVIL! Finally, the Thalmor are but a faction of the Altmer race, many of the Altmer are afraid to speak out against the Thalmor because they are afraid that the Thalmor will MURDER them! The Snow Elves were in the right and the Nords were in the wrong and I've got more evidence than that!
@andrewrauch5807
@andrewrauch5807 4 года назад
@@blevins3053 Sure, like the Nords haven't been at one time or another!
@andrewrauch5807
@andrewrauch5807 4 года назад
@@metetural9140 Exactly, thank god that somebody else sees that!
@PabloEscobar-vh6jq
@PabloEscobar-vh6jq 4 года назад
I think the mini falmer is for when you activate de ruins defense system and the automatons dwarven centurion smacks those tiny falmer , making the centurion look boss
@GrampsD63
@GrampsD63 4 года назад
Wow the Snow Elves must have some juice. The Night Of Tears never seems to make it's way into these videos.
@pedigreeann
@pedigreeann 4 года назад
My theory is that some Snow Elven sages dug up the fact that the site of Saarthal was where a dangerous magical energy source had been disposed of in earlier times. The Nord settlers, however, were delving deeply into the ground for the building of their burial crypts and were much too close to this artifact; in fact, they must have found it, for in 'our' time, it is contained in the crypt holding one of the Gauldursons. Since this artifact, in the wrong hands, could 'remake' the world (viz Ancano's dialogue), the Snow Elves were determined to keep the Nords from using it, thus the attack and obliteration of Saarthal. That way the artifact was safe and the Nords would have no clue of the power it contained.
@TheHarleyEvans
@TheHarleyEvans 4 года назад
is this a WW2 reference?
@justnoob8141
@justnoob8141 4 года назад
So Night of Tears is basically Pearl Harbor in The Elder Scrolls?
@curvingphoenix
@curvingphoenix 4 года назад
“Innocent” is quite a bit generous of a word for the snow elves, after all they showed no mercy to shorthal and all the “reasons” people have hypothesized aren’t good enough of an excuse. The snow elves started the fight in such a cruel way I don’t judge how the nords decided to retaliate.
@pedigreeann
@pedigreeann 4 года назад
The Nords were in Snow Elf territory on sufferance. They were foreigners who were not invited; squatters if you will. We do not know what may have sparked the Snow Elf actions because naturally the Nords aren't going to tell us about it if there was one, or more, reasons. All I know is that the Snow Elves could have slaughtered them on the beachheads righteously as defending their land from invaders, but they didn't. Most elves aren't as impulsive as humans; I doubt they would have taken their action at Saarthal without due consideration of consequences and found it important enough to take the risk.
@alexanderson6465
@alexanderson6465 4 года назад
@@pedigreeann I'm sure I heard it was the Nords slaughtered somewhere, I'm not sure tho
@devin59320
@devin59320 4 года назад
@firemonster221 but I thought the eye of magnus that was found in sarthaal led to the elves attacking sarthaal for the power the orb held. though keep in mind that I am more asking than stating rn, as you seem to know the lore waaaay better than I do.
@devin59320
@devin59320 4 года назад
@firemonster221 ty for that helpful info, actually been wondering where yall end up getting so into the lore, Ive known about the imperial library website but can never figure out how to work it, and currently with my shite internet itd take me 10 minutes just to load up the damned page :/ EDIT: also no problem about the reminder lol
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 3 года назад
@firemonster221 You think the Snow Elves wouldn't have asked them to leave? I mean, that doesn't make sense. A massacre wouldn't have happened without the Snow Elves being angered/provoked.
@NatasWhite
@NatasWhite 4 года назад
“And Todd Howard.... Is probably in quarantine like the rest of us” Except me, I’m still out working
@dagon7936
@dagon7936 4 года назад
Natas White stay strong bro
@AndieSchweizer
@AndieSchweizer 4 года назад
Same! Stay safe!
@anthonyc5525
@anthonyc5525 4 года назад
Nate, shoutout to you for keeping these videos coming. Always entertaining and always well produced. 👏🏼
@darksungwyndolin9977
@darksungwyndolin9977 4 года назад
The most important thing to learn from this video is "Don't piss off the Nords"
@metetural9140
@metetural9140 4 года назад
Unless your balls are bigger than theirs. A.K.A. barely anyone
@andrewrauch5807
@andrewrauch5807 4 года назад
The most important thing to learn is that human's are impulsive, rude, arrogant, and can't be trusted, and yes I play as Nord!
@jacrispy3275
@jacrispy3275 4 года назад
#ElfSuperiority
@andrewrauch5807
@andrewrauch5807 4 года назад
@@jacrispy3275 Don't say that, all of the races are equal.
@jacrispy3275
@jacrispy3275 4 года назад
@@andrewrauch5807 - I was just joking, but no, they're not equal. Some are stronger than others, some are hated & prejudiced against, etc. I wouldn't exactly call that equal. This is TES, not real life.
@phantomhurricane666
@phantomhurricane666 4 года назад
speaking of snow-elves, at the inner sanctum in the forgotten vale, if you hop the railing at the sanctum-end of the bridge, and turn west (being careful not to fall off, it's a long way down), there's an archway, next to a half buried skeleton with an unremovable circlet, three gemstones, and an elven sword.
@MrLenny011
@MrLenny011 4 года назад
17:30 definitely the best one you’ve come up with
@blackouttells11789
@blackouttells11789 4 года назад
I'm so glad you explained to me the mini falmer, I was playing and ran into two, one was miniature and one was normal sized haha. I had to take a screenshot it was so bizarre.
@thegodofmischief8141
@thegodofmischief8141 4 года назад
1:37 in Europa (I wait always for your videos).It s night but it s nice to look at your work..Good luck
@areylaurens9714
@areylaurens9714 4 года назад
OH THAT LINE I LOVE IT "he was no hero, he was just a bad guy that won."
@Edario
@Edario 4 года назад
My cousin's out there fighting Corona virus, and what do I get? Watching Nate's videos.
@williamfoster9201
@williamfoster9201 4 года назад
Two things (as a console player): 1. Missed opportunity to let Gelebor be a follower. A high persuasion check is all that needed to be involved to allow us players to have him be our follower. 2. If Skyrim does get spears added via Creation Club, I hope we can get special spears like the Spear of the Snow Prince.
@scrapgrace
@scrapgrace 4 года назад
11:30 that's basically what every slave ever had to do
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 3 года назад
Yeah but this guy is hailed as some "hero" who was just so great and tragic that he's loved by all nord. Not all slaves were treated the same back in the day even in our world, and Windhelm is a big, grand city. The fact the enslaved Snow Elves even had to build such a thing must've even a daunting task, one that they were all slaughtered after making
@ant13ducks
@ant13ducks 4 года назад
hell yes ive been wondering more about falmer recently. always on point thanks natee
@schmittybacall1655
@schmittybacall1655 4 года назад
If they ever make an oblivion remaster, there should be a line that replaces the famous high elf line. It would be simple and simply ask, “have you heard of the snow elves?”
@radicallamp6762
@radicallamp6762 4 года назад
This my favorite "5 Things..." video. Hands down. Great job Nate!
@Lin-rh5hn
@Lin-rh5hn 4 года назад
I'm loving this little beast series so far I hope it'll continue! The story of the snow elves/falmer was always one of the most interesting things about the game to me
@jeffersonskrabanek9263
@jeffersonskrabanek9263 4 года назад
BA da da da da I'm lovin it
@alannahscott7234
@alannahscott7234 4 года назад
At this rate no matter how repetitive these videos get when watched in bulk i find comfort in learning stuff in a game i have like over 200 hrs in
@eyereign5730
@eyereign5730 4 года назад
Noob. 😀
@PurpleFizzify
@PurpleFizzify 4 года назад
Last time I was this early, the snow elves still had their vision.
@rifflerunderhill7006
@rifflerunderhill7006 4 года назад
Hmm wonder if the wispmothers were 'volunteers' from the snow elves, testing the method of ascension the dwemer eventually used. Most powerful images changed into wispmothers, while the rest of the populace was blinded to hide the dwemer secret arts.
@thefakesir6300
@thefakesir6300 4 года назад
Last time i was this early in my game nazeem was still alive
@jaqaunjones9746
@jaqaunjones9746 4 года назад
Did you send him to the cloud district what am I saying of course you did
@eyereign5730
@eyereign5730 4 года назад
@@jaqaunjones9746 I sent him to Manslayer😈
@markanthony559
@markanthony559 4 года назад
Wow, you never cease to blow my mind with skyrim stuff. I love it, keep em coming!
@DarkSeraph95
@DarkSeraph95 4 года назад
The Falmer shouldn't have betrayed the Nords. Really was a glowing ball worth everything that happened to them.
@nemerly_00
@nemerly_00 4 года назад
The Snow Elves were doomed no matter how you look at it. The Dragons were coming over with the Nords and they would have subjugated the Snow Elves. Also, the Snow Elf's highest religious figure was turned into a vampire (yes hundreds or thousands of years later, but that would have devastated them as well).
@andrewrauch5807
@andrewrauch5807 4 года назад
Uh yeah, if you knew that a race that is impulsive and doesn't think things through has a weapon that could possibly unmake all of creation, would you want them to have it. The Snow Elves were only trying to prevent the Nords from doing something terrible. Even the Psijic Monk in the College of Winterhold's quest line said that the world was not ready for such a thing. The Snow Elves were only trying to protect the world, so don't go talking bad about them when their intentions were FAR from malevolent and self-centered.
@DarkSeraph95
@DarkSeraph95 4 года назад
@@andrewrauch5807 No. They lived in peace for years. They traded. Taught each other magic, culture, smithing, and combat techniques. The Falmer betrayed the nords when they found the Eye of Magnus. They slaughtered countless innocent people for an artifact they didn't even understand themselves. The elves are just as if not more impulsive than the nords. The elves literally think themselves gods . No matter how many times the gods curse them for their heresy
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 4 года назад
@@andrewrauch5807 if that is true they shouldn't have murdered everyone instead should have talked with and convinced them to work with the elves to seal it away
@andrewrauch5807
@andrewrauch5807 4 года назад
@@DarkSeraph95 The elves knew that the Eye could destroy the world if tampered with. They were attempting to protect all of life. If they did not act, the Nords would have, then all of Nirn would have suffered. You're not looking at the dangerous potential that the Eye has. No good could have come from the Nords having it, and if the Snow Elves knew nothing about it, why then did they leave it. They did know something, they knew that it was dangerous.
@SquidFoxy
@SquidFoxy 4 года назад
Everytime you upload I get a big smile and yell "Yay! Nate's got more awesome stuff!", not kidding, my fiance thinks its hilarious lol Thank you for another wonderful video!
@narcolepticinsomniacs
@narcolepticinsomniacs 4 года назад
We need Nate in ES6. Perhaps as a scholar that studies the creatures and secrets of the land
@blazingbones7
@blazingbones7 4 года назад
Hey Nate, on your next "5 things you didn't know about Skyrim" can you add that when you're carrying too much, you can't fast travel, but if you get on a horse, you can fast travel? I thought that would really benefit everyone.
@James--Parker
@James--Parker 4 года назад
Wait was Soulstiem already a Island when this happened? I thought Mirrak's uprising and the great dragon war happened later?
@andrewrauch5807
@andrewrauch5807 4 года назад
No it happened in the late Merithic Era, so probably a little bit before these events.
@spiderz5145
@spiderz5145 4 года назад
Lol the part about Todd being in quarantine got me.
@juanfisi
@juanfisi 4 года назад
10:10 They are made like that so the centurion at the end (who you are suppose to be able to see killing them from far away) looks what bigger.
@whyidontwant2723
@whyidontwant2723 4 года назад
For anyone claiming the snow elves started the war you need to remember the source, conquerors usually claim to have been attacked first.
@dylannecros3636
@dylannecros3636 4 года назад
True, but there aren’t many reasons to slaughter a human settlement other than xenophobia.
@whyidontwant2723
@whyidontwant2723 4 года назад
@@dylannecros3636 I was saying its more likely the humans made up the story of the settlement to have reason to invade as conquerors are known to do
@anthonypolonkay2681
@anthonypolonkay2681 4 года назад
Well its not exactly uncharacteristic for elves to hate and look down on men as a lesser species. The whole aldmeri dominion is dedicated to the idea that mer(elves) are superior to man.
@whyidontwant2723
@whyidontwant2723 4 года назад
@@anthonypolonkay2681 I'm just saying it's possible and could even be the starting point for elves hating men and not all elves share the ideas of the aldmeri dominion
@eyereign5730
@eyereign5730 4 года назад
@@whyidontwant2723 except, you know, the Ayleids. 🙄
@MazzaRawrs
@MazzaRawrs 4 года назад
Thanks for posting all these videos Nate. Its really helped me get through these tough times
@POET22HERO
@POET22HERO 4 года назад
"really putting infant in infantry" nice line
@jep1st
@jep1st 4 месяца назад
Fighting the falmer as a stealth character is one of my favourite things to do. With muffle and the fact that they're blind, you can just dance around them and pick them off one by one. I almost felt sorry for them in my last dagger assassin vampire playthrough.
@Chiikasaurus
@Chiikasaurus 4 года назад
This has given me great inspiration for my next playthrough, thank you!
@williammartin207
@williammartin207 4 года назад
Nate, I really wanna see you do a full play through of Skyrim, you know the game so well. I’m sure many other people would also like to see it!
@eyereign5730
@eyereign5730 4 года назад
ESO does good walk-through videos.
@himborc
@himborc 4 года назад
i made my dragonborn a timelost falmer who literally "boy in the iceberg'd" himself and thawed out juuust in time (akatosh IS the god of time, after all!) and he aint pleased with this whole stormcloak thing
@insaincaldo
@insaincaldo 4 года назад
Stormcloaks, Imperials, Draagons screw the surface dwellers.
@floydlechner2445
@floydlechner2445 4 года назад
Keelah but who asked? Get twitter to share your life
@himborc
@himborc 4 года назад
Floyd Lechner u sound real mad over a RU-vid comment my good bitch
@the_hanged_clown
@the_hanged_clown 4 года назад
I haven't actually played the game in months but everytime I see one of your lore videos I definitely want to
@LucasMusser
@LucasMusser 4 года назад
the 500 and the eventual demise of the snow elves came after The Night of Tears
@RichyArg
@RichyArg 4 года назад
Let's all Remember that, while yes, Ysgramor was a monster, he was a monstern created by the snow elves, remember, the first atmoran settlements in skyrim were peaceful, they traded with and, in many ocassions, were subserbient to the snow elves, it was only when the elves suddenly decided to drive out the humans and desolated their settlements (most likely out of fear of their rapid growth, as elves have always been afraid of humans outbreeding them) and the sole survivor from this genocide was ysgramor himself, so, unlike the Falmar that managed to escape in bulk to the Dwemer Holds, the first wave of nord settlers had a Single survivor, that managed to escape back to Atmora and Spent years Recruiting men and building up a force to avenge his own, the only Reason Ysgramor was hellbent on exterminating the Falmer was because they once ha taken everything from him.
@aesthetics1726
@aesthetics1726 4 года назад
I can’t wait for “5 things they never told you about the falmer” part 32
@artsyhoodies
@artsyhoodies 4 года назад
I used to be utterly terrified of those elves... until I realized that they really are blind. No joke, I can sneak ALL around them with no alert at 50 sneak.
@blackroseduelist4415
@blackroseduelist4415 4 года назад
Nate: he's not a hero, he's just a bad guy. who won The Night of Tears: Am I a joke to you?
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 3 года назад
Well, it depends on whether or not the Night of Tears was provoked or not. Knowing Atmoran culture and the situation with the Eye of Magnus... well, just saying, he may very well be a bad guy that won. And the victors write the history
@HD.Keem96
@HD.Keem96 4 года назад
Ysgramor didn't just wake up one day and was like let me conquer the Snow Elves, the elves started it by invading then sacking Saarthal a nordic colony on skyrim Saarthal was the first city built in Skyrim after the arrival of Nords from Atmora sometime in the middle of the Merethic Era. Saarthal was also the first capital of Nord civilization in Tamriel, as well as the largest of the ancient Nordic cities. The city was destroyed late in the Merethic Era by the Snow Elves, and then rebuilt by Ysgramor after he retook the city. It was destroyed and finally abandoned sometime in the late Merethic or early First Era.
@waddle_plop
@waddle_plop 4 года назад
15:59 Well, the Dark Elves used to look blue too, and look how that changed in Skyrim. XP
@eyereign5730
@eyereign5730 4 года назад
Always looked purple to me, sometimes even black.
@eyereign5730
@eyereign5730 4 года назад
Always looked purple to me, sometimes even black. Or maybe dark blue?
@Hippiedudeman
@Hippiedudeman 4 года назад
So I’ve been a fan of your channel for a good bit and have also been a fan of both fallout and the elder scrolls for even longer, and I’ve never been so content fighting dragons and doing quests while listening to the cool facts that you dish out in your videos. I’ve been binging your vids because there are so many and Bethesda just has a way with keeping you busy in its games haha, but seriously keep up the good work my dude.
@squid373
@squid373 4 года назад
*Nate describing how majestic the Snow elves were* Me over here being trash: 🌚
@mr.traphil5663
@mr.traphil5663 4 года назад
Your videos are the Corona-Quarantine-Killer no. 1
@KC..........
@KC.......... 4 года назад
I thought it said farmers :(
@dustingideon5719
@dustingideon5719 4 года назад
At least they didn't have shotguns
@KC..........
@KC.......... 4 года назад
Dustin Gideon “GET AWAY FROM MY PROPERTY *cocks 12 gauge*
@Machturtle7491
@Machturtle7491 4 года назад
Absolutely love the videos, can't get enough
@solidadsoriano9235
@solidadsoriano9235 4 года назад
I'm kinda disappointed that you didn't mention the Night of Tears. Really wanted to push that anti-Nord agenda, didn't you. Nate's now a Thalmor confirmed lmao.
@failedabortion8734
@failedabortion8734 4 года назад
Well extermination of the entire snow elf race is a bit extreme.
@soulsborneclips4mefriends941
@soulsborneclips4mefriends941 4 года назад
snow elves: murder ysgramor's family and try to wipe out his race ysgramor: turns it around and wipes them out instead nate: "ysgramor was the bad guy"
@anthonythanghe4755
@anthonythanghe4755 4 года назад
“Murdered them all to death”... hearing this makes me laugh every time
@taylor65712
@taylor65712 4 года назад
And when you kill a man, you're a murderer. Kill many, and you're a conqueror. Kill them all, you're a god.
@EMPERORTUNGSTEN
@EMPERORTUNGSTEN 4 года назад
Taylor417 I like this because of how true it is!
@frosksdeadteeth5163
@frosksdeadteeth5163 4 года назад
Your Skyrim is stunningly beautiful. I'm very envious. I got a new PC recently must play it on it soon.
@darklink604
@darklink604 4 года назад
Little girl used sword throw it was super effective
@LordSStorm
@LordSStorm 4 года назад
Could the Wispmothers be Wood Elves who participated in the Great Hunt? That might explain their lack of numbers and connection to an element.
@philpeters3689
@philpeters3689 9 месяцев назад
Everyone think ysgramor a badguy until they remember the night of tears, the alyeids and even the thalmor. Them pointy ears need a lesson, big Ys was happy to be their teacher
@thelonegunman2622
@thelonegunman2622 4 года назад
Honestly, knowing the history of the snow elves, I have no sympathy for them. They tried to kill of all the atmoran settlers
@gilbertbeilschmidt3726
@gilbertbeilschmidt3726 4 года назад
THANK YOU! I kept thinking the same thing!
@captain_kadaver
@captain_kadaver 4 года назад
Also, come on. If you run away from 500 drunk dudes with clubs because one of them stabbed your commander, you might as well just be driven to extinction by a tribe of angry horkers.
@blevins3053
@blevins3053 4 года назад
Agree
@metetural9140
@metetural9140 4 года назад
@@captain_kadaver yes but put into reality that if it was just 500 nords, they would've been crushed in a week. It was probably more 5000, or 10000. And I doubt they stayed on the same boat
@andrewrauch5807
@andrewrauch5807 4 года назад
Yeah, only after the Atmorans had a weapon that could potentially destroy the world. Look at what the Eye almost did at the College of Winterhold, it killed the Archmage and Mirabelle Ervine. The Snow Elves were right to attack the Atmorans!
@justrelaxx8314
@justrelaxx8314 4 года назад
It's my personal belief that there are still some snow elves somewhere on Nirn. Like a dwarf falling for one and fleeing with them, or something to that effect.
@eyereign5730
@eyereign5730 4 года назад
Forgotten vale.
@PsionicMonk
@PsionicMonk 4 года назад
Falmer Warrior Prince : 12 yo girl : I'm Finna end this mans whole career
@Vladimir_Kv
@Vladimir_Kv 4 года назад
Teens were adults in OUR world's history. With how Nords are generally stronger physically, I bet that girl was there by right. Also "squire" is not a "servant". Squire is a warrior (knight) trainee. So she was atraining under her mother to become a warrior and was there as a part of the army. Also it is an interesting detail. They say "500 Companions of Ysgrammor" but if those Companions were similar to our world's knights, they might've brought with them quite a retinue of squires, battle-capable servants and such. Bringing the total headcount to twice or five times as much (1 Companion, his wife, his children\squires, a couple of their servants). So Ysgrammor army might've been 1500 to 5000 units.
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