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SkyzoneFPV Steadyview Fusion Board V3.3 🧮 // Did They Fix Mix Mode? 

John Cuppi
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Mix mode sync issues with Steadyview? Getting a very dark/discolored/rolling/vibrating image? SkyZone Fusion Board V3.3 is a $25 upgrade and/or 'fix' for this, for your Steadyview Receiver...in this video, I test a few different camera setups that did not work right for me on the latest 2.3 firmware, with my old receiver hardware. And then, compare the results after installing the Fusion Board V3.3 hardware.
🧮 SkyZone Fusion Board V3.3 ( ELRS backpack/ Non ELRS)
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─── Table of Contents ───
- Intro to Skyzone's $25 Steadview Fusion Board: 0:00
- Before/After: TinyHawk Freestyle II (Dark/Multicolors): 0:27
- Before/After: Rekon 3 (Vibrating Text): 1:45
- Before/After: Moblite7 (Micro Desyncs): 3:48
- Before/After: Beta85 Pro 2 (Dark/Multicolors): 5:17
- Discussing My Results: 7:11
- Upgrade Tips & Mistakes to Avoid: 8:20
- Concluding Thoughts, Share Yours!: 9:05
─── Disclosure ───
The fusion board product and goggles in this video were purchased by me.
It contains zero sponsored affiliate links.

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@beeradfpv
@beeradfpv Год назад
my replacement module is on the way. i downloaded the goggle firmware but there are 2 files in it. do you move both files over to the SDCard?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Yes, firmware A and Firmware B must be copied. But, no SD card is involved. #1. You plug the goggles in over USB-C to a computer, and then hold down the power button and left wheel. #2. This boots the goggles up in a mode that mounts it as a visible drive on your PC or Mac. To flash the firmware, you then just drag the firmware files A & B to the "drive" that your PC sees. Let it transfer and that's it, you're done with the firmware flash. For firmwares, see here: www.skyzonefpv.com/pages/download #3. The next thing to do in the goggles after installing the new module is to choose SteadyviewX mode instead of RF-Normal. Very important because it will not work at all if you don't switch to steadyviewx mode. #4. Then recalibrate RSSI so your % numbers are accurate. For the calibrations, the options are LOW and HIGH. Calibrate on LOW first with no VTX or drone running. Then, turn on a drone or VTX and run the HIGH calibration, with the drone around 2 meters away. I want to do a whole video on this process, but didn't go into it for this one. It would have made it a 20 minute video. The most important thing is don't waste time flashing any fw on your new receiver, already seen someone almost brick theirs by doing this.
@beeradfpv
@beeradfpv Год назад
@@JohnCuppi Awesome, thanks. i've never updated my goggles. i've only had them since May. i need to figure out if they are V2 or V3 goggles.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
@@beeradfpv In the System menu, Scroll down to Firmware version and check what "FW1" says. It'll tell you what hardware version you have so you can download the correct firmware. Mine said FW1: 2.3.6 before I upgraded, meaning that mine were V2 and so I needed the V2 goggle firmware. After you update, also, it changes the firmware information page to tell you that you have Sky04x V1 / V2 / V3, since this has been confusing a lot of people too.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
I'm pinning this comment also, it's a great question and our conversation should be helpful to others as well. Thank you!
@beeradfpv
@beeradfpv Год назад
@@JohnCuppi Just updated my goggles. mine were V3 goggles on older 3.4.6 firmware. Updated to latest 3.4.9. Also was able to easy take the module out as mine had no tape or adhesive holding it together...lol Must have know something better was coming...haha. now i wait for the module to be delivered. Thanks for the easy tutorial! This was what was in my menu. FW1 V3.4.6 FW2 V02.00.00.10 Hw V3.2.3.4
@DronePsyche
@DronePsyche Год назад
Great comparisons and very informative. Thanks John!
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
👍😎 thanks charlie, still rocking a lot of analog micro quads that won't be digital any time soon, so im glad this worked out.
@ADKDronesRC
@ADKDronesRC Год назад
Great video as always my friend! I’ll be using this as a guide to repair mine ! Although I haven’t really had only one model that has theses issues but who’s to say I won’t in the future! Thanks Again for your time on making this !
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Thanks fred! It is possible to never run into this problem if you don't use an affected camera that can't sync right on your hardware & firmware. I'm glad the new firmware seems to have fixed everything for me so far.
@richardmeade2287
@richardmeade2287 Год назад
Thanks so much for doing this comparison, persuaded me to buy it to fix my issues with all 4 of my quads. Much appreciated
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Glad to hear it helped, and best of luck!
@Koniuoo
@Koniuoo Год назад
@@JohnCuppi John. The steadyview module v1 should work fine with ev300o gogles? Thanks
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
@@Koniuoo I am not sure about that. Sorry.
@sansjunk
@sansjunk Год назад
I am having the exact weird color issues, especially when the camera turns towards the sunny sky. Your video gives me hope! I have just placed the order for the V3.3 Fusion board. Keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks for the comparison, it really clears things up.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Glad to help. I have now had this module for 6 months and have not found any cameras with color or mix mode problems using it!
@sansjunk
@sansjunk Год назад
That's great to hear. Do you fly with mix mode 1 with all the cameras?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
@@sansjunk Yes. I've never had to change to Mix2 or Mix3 to get a nice, clear, locked image.
@sansjunk
@sansjunk 11 месяцев назад
@@JohnCuppi I finally got the fusion board and replaced it. However, intermittently I am getting a black and white video. This is happening on the bench, so should not be due to signal issues. My old Eachine EV800 is showing proper color, so it's not a VTX/cam issue either. Does it matter if the module is installed on the left bay? Mine are, and I see that yours are as well. I think for quadversity they need the streadyview x module in the right-side bay.
@IdahoQuadcopter
@IdahoQuadcopter Год назад
Excellent review of the new mixer board John!
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
You could say the new mixer -- finally, made the view actually "steady!" 🤣 *ba-dum-tiss* thank you very much.
@billdor121
@billdor121 Год назад
I've got my replacement board on the way... I've been having all the same issues you were and it drove me up the wall. Good to know I can look forward to actual improvements.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Good luck and I hope it resolves all of your issues!
@MrChanw11
@MrChanw11 10 месяцев назад
Great comparison video, appreciated! Hoping my cobra x comes with the 3.3
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi 10 месяцев назад
Hope so too! This 3.3 is still working fine for me.
@TheBeltcp
@TheBeltcp Год назад
I have new v2 goggles with steadyview hardware list V3.3 , I want update firmware , so it just work only with v3.3 firmware or I can flash firmware using V3.4 ? And another question , when my quad fly close over me I get "splash/ distortion" how to fix it
@user-eq2ug7in7b
@user-eq2ug7in7b Год назад
Thanks dude, good review
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Thanks!
@Flumphinator
@Flumphinator Год назад
I got my 04X about 6 weeks ago and mine shipped with the v3.3 module. Yay!
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Yeah - they’ve been quietly shipping this for the last few months so any recent purchases are fine!
@Dosclic98FPV
@Dosclic98FPV Год назад
Where do you bought it? Banggood?
@furballkimfpv9365
@furballkimfpv9365 Год назад
awesome video John. Very informative left a like
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Thanks kim, hope you're doing well along with Roger. Have a good one.
@kydawg1684
@kydawg1684 Год назад
Great stuff John. I will need to get 2 of these for the QUADVERSITY on my SKYO4X V2 Goggs.... Nice fix for sure....however Skyzone should really be sending these out for FREE for each Steadyview they have sold. Sucks to spend money to fix their issue.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Yeah... I never went down the path of quadiversity, do you find it to really be worth it? I'm glad the v3.3 hardware just worked for everything I have now, and not just the majority of my micro cameras. I updated my old 2.3 stuff to the latest firmware, and it actually caused some quads that worked great before to run like crap. The rekon3 wasn't like this before I updated everything. I'm glad Skyzone is still supporting users, but yeah, I wish it was offered at cost of shipping alone.
@kydawg1684
@kydawg1684 Год назад
@@JohnCuppi I have not noticed any definitive improvement telling me it is worth it. Maybe the update will show the difference 2 vs 4 receivers. The 1 big CON is how fast Quadversity drinks your goggle battery with 4 VRXs running. You really need to monitor your battery closer because the end is abrupt. Bigger Lipo in my pocket with Lipo alarm has been my solution for that. Anyways great review bro. Always great info.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
I always thought that quadiversity might be really beneficial for very long range, since you could have so many antennas pointed directionally. Thanks for stopping by man, appreciate it.
@SunriseWaterMedia
@SunriseWaterMedia Год назад
I'd never heard the term "desync" in this context. I learned something new. 👍
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Yep, mix mode combines 2x video signals to reduce noise, but when one of the 2 receivers has a delay, then this is what happens. It's called sync pulse construction. The camera drifts and the pulses aren't set right, so it can roll or shake, or colors get warped to hell. Rapidfire and TBS fusion have also had this issue.
@HoRNET_FPV
@HoRNET_FPV Год назад
@@JohnCuppi upgraded Fusion still rolls especially on "fusion" mode, the only VRX that never de-syncs is Wildfire afaik, a bit less range but I love it tbh, I use it as much as my Fusion
@AndrewHollywood
@AndrewHollywood Год назад
Keep up the great videos!! thank u
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Thanks!
@gbro8822
@gbro8822 Год назад
Great job, thank you John.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
You're welcome, thanks, hope you're doing well sir!
@user-we5ld3qy1s
@user-we5ld3qy1s Год назад
Good video man !!!! Thanl you !!!
@w1llyFPV
@w1llyFPV Год назад
Hello, finly this is the first video with this new module. I have a rapidmix muddle on my EV300O. This is v1.2 20200805 so it's very old. I have some problems so it should be improvement as well. Also I will be switching my TX Module Crossfire to Elrs Ranger soon so my question is regarding elsr backpack - is it really worth it or standard will be better? What's your opinion about it?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Thanks for the comment! Yes I am the first one to upload a comprehensive test video on this new module, I think there was just not a lot of interest from other creators in getting to this. But it was an important test and i'm happy it's been helpful. I have not done any ELRS backpack testing at all with this module. I use ELRS and plan to set it up soon, but I have been busy on other projects. Also, at this time, I mainly fly a lot of analog micro quads that don't even use ELRS. They are frsky spi models. So I have not had a lot of motivation to get ELRS backpack up and working yet. I believe the $5 to have the backpack option is worth it though to have the option, and adds resale value if you ever plan to sell the goggles.
@manski209
@manski209 Год назад
Great video. I just ordered the Eachine EV300o and i'm hoping it doesn't come with the bad receiver.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
At least you know this should be a very inexpensive fix if it does!
@loicader56
@loicader56 Год назад
What are the best antennas to install on the Skyzone 04X with dual Steadyview/Rapidmix 3.3 for long range?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
For long range, TrueRC LR antennas are probably the best www.truerc.ca/category-product/5-8ghz-2/receiver-long-range ... I use the X²-AIR 5.8 MK II with my DJI goggles and they are fantastic.
@barrycooke6874
@barrycooke6874 Год назад
Good video. Thanks for the info. Maybe silly question but what's the difference between the steadyview board and the fusion board? And do you ony need to buy the fusion board for the fix?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Thanks Barry. The fusion board is an attachment that goes onto the entire receiver module. If you already own Skyzone goggles, all you need to is purchase the fusion board for $25, and the receiver module comes apart for you to replace it with. It’s a quick, cheap, easy fix.
@barrycooke6874
@barrycooke6874 Год назад
@@JohnCuppi Lovely. Thanks for the info John.
@SunriseWaterMedia
@SunriseWaterMedia Год назад
You mentioned hearing a beep when the video locks on the receiver. I've always wondered how that works, if the connection isn't two way. I don't have your goggles, but on my immersionRC module, I hear that beep as well.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
My understanding is that since it can only be done 100% receiver-side, since it is pulling data in from both antennas, it has to ensure that the camera data is being received at the same rate from both receivers. and that data is up-to-date and matches. I imagine it's like two people trying to watch a movie or show for example, side by side. You want both start playing the content at the same exact time, so you sync yourselves up and hit the play button on 1-2-3. And then, if one of you drifts because of lost fps, maybe because your computer had a burp, you fall behind. Not a big deal for two people watching a movie if someone gets a few seconds behind, but for a receiver trying to combine that data to construct one picture, that's a major problem... Generally, you want to choose a short sync time, that's what is best to avoid drifting away because as you said this is really hard to do with a connection that isn't two way. I'm guessing that better hardware must do something to allow the steadyview to juggle all of this, perhaps detect a desync and correct it before the corruption gets to the user.
@SunriseWaterMedia
@SunriseWaterMedia Год назад
@@JohnCuppi Thanks!
@ccurrivan
@ccurrivan Год назад
Any idea if this will help with interference when flying near other pilots? BTW, I also had more issues with those color change desyncs when the sun was behind me and the drone in front. It was worst with a NanohawkX.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
This will not change anything with interference from other pilots. That’s more of an issue with making sure everyone is on a channel/band/power that’s appropriately spaced and low enough to not stomp on each others signals.
@RDsRCReviews
@RDsRCReviews Год назад
Nice job John!
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
🤜 🤛 😎 thanks man!
@jaysonrees738
@jaysonrees738 Год назад
Oh, so that's why I get image shake. I always end up needing to reboot the goggles to get rid of it. Now I feel kinda cheated. On a side note, do you tend to run PAL or NTSC? I usually go with PAL for the increased vertical FOV.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Definitely prefer more view vertically.
@thewookiee78
@thewookiee78 Год назад
100%. We were all cheated by Skyzone. The updated module should be free. It's not an upgrade, it's a fix!
@SyphenHouse
@SyphenHouse Год назад
I have two of the older 2.x boards and they would go black and white, and roll hard over. Caused me several crashes. Both whoops and 5" builds. I have given up on the skyzone vrx and gone Fusion in one and rapidfire in the other.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Yeah, many already went that route. Sadly it’s too late then, BUT - if you ever have intention of selling your skyzones and keeping your rapidfire, it’s nice to know you can fix it. I’m thinking of selling mine in the future to buy the HDzero goggle.
@NorthGaSawyer
@NorthGaSawyer Год назад
When you upgraded was a "SteadyviewX" line added to the mode selection menu and is that what you selected?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Correct. If you have the ELRS fusion board and select something other than "SteadyView X", such as RF-Normal, etc, it will not work properly at all.
@NorthGaSawyer
@NorthGaSawyer Год назад
@@JohnCuppi I have the non-ELRS board V3.3 which (flashed to latest firmware), according the the Skyzone website, is the same fusion hardware as the ELRS version. The issue I'm having is when I select SteadyviewX and power down and back up I frequently will only see snow until I switch to RFNormal. I can then switch back to SVX and all is good until I power the goggles down.
@user-eq2ug7in7b
@user-eq2ug7in7b Год назад
Quick question... Can I buy the V3 and add it to the empty slot to enable the quad diversity? Like will the v2 work with v3, did you try this?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
No, it will not work. Skyzone has confirmed that it won't work and I've tried it. The major hardware revisions need to match. 3.x and 3.x are needed. Sorry.
@user-eq2ug7in7b
@user-eq2ug7in7b Год назад
@@JohnCuppi ok good to know. Thanks dude
@arthurganz
@arthurganz 9 месяцев назад
Can you please check if your dvr recording works via the lua? Mine doesnt and skyzone cant help me out after few weeks of emailing. They where verry helpfull but we just couldnt find the problem.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi 9 месяцев назад
Do you mean DVR recording via ELRS backpack? I never set up ELRS backpack at all, sorry.
@arthurganz
@arthurganz 9 месяцев назад
@@JohnCuppi yes that is what i ment. Aaah i see. Thanks for your respons anyways 👍
@wazabiqc
@wazabiqc 9 месяцев назад
I bought the module, and now that I installeds it, for some reasons my colors are all funky/dark in my goggles... Can't find exactly which firmware I need for my goggles or even receiver as their website is confusing as hell..
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi 9 месяцев назад
maybe I can help. do you have any idea which hardware revision your sky04x are? v1/v2/v3?
@deadstickfpv
@deadstickfpv Год назад
I have the same issue .mine turns black and white. And it keeps roling to black images..I I ques I have to get the v3 module and place it ontop of the other one
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
😢 Yep. But, at least you don't have to buy a rapidfire, this is much cheaper and fully works integrated with the skyzone goggles. Very sad that they did not just replace this for free for everyone.
@jamesmichaelcabrera9613
@jamesmichaelcabrera9613 Год назад
I have the steadyview module 3.3 and mine still does that it blacks out sometimes. I would have to change the mix to resynchronize
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
I would report that to Skyzone and see what they say. 👍
@ze3312
@ze3312 Год назад
Can I use this module with other goggles? Like the fatshark hd2?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
You can, but only if you use ExpressLRS and setup the backpack. There is absolutely no other way to control the module from either within the fatsharks, or externally since it has no screen. Really not an ideal setup. Skyzone now makes the SteadyView X which is suited for that.
@src2920
@src2920 Год назад
Thank you for the only video on steadyview 3.3. I have a eachine ev300o v1 goggles (fw1: V1.3.5, FW2: V01.02.00.04, Hw: V1.2.3.4) Will the steadyview fusion board 3.3 hardware work with my goggles?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Hi, sorry for the late reply. I cannot see it working with that firmware on your eachine ev300o v1, everyone had to update their skyzone firmware to get this to work. Reach out to skyzone about this because eachine has totally abandoned this goggle, none of the links for the downloads for it are working...
@src2920
@src2920 Год назад
@@JohnCuppi Hi John, Thank you. Skyzone actually replied that the fusion board would work aftervthe firmware update.
@chezloak6494
@chezloak6494 Год назад
Hi John, I've updated my Steadyview (no ELRS) to v3.3. Everything is fine in the googles but when I do an RSSI Calibration, the beep is continuous until I power off the googles, same for low level calibration and high level calibration. My googles are V1. Firmware are the right ones. Is it the same for you, or for someone reading this ?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
It is not the same for me, but I use Sky04x V2 hardware. Calibration is successful for me, this does not happen. This sounds like a problem that you should contact skyzone support for.
@chezloak6494
@chezloak6494 Год назад
@@JohnCuppi tank you for your answer. I did thru Daniel's email and posting a ticket on the support page of SkyzoneFPV. Now waiting.
@chezloak6494
@chezloak6494 Год назад
Hi John, As this morning, when I've powered the googles I've got a black screen, I've used a spray for electrical contacts on fusion board to main board pins and main board to googles pins ... No more bugs, calibration went fine, so far so good. So I will consider the problem solved ... I hope
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
@@chezloak6494 Good idea, glad to hear you git it resolved. Hope you finally have a resolution to your problem with the skyzones ^_^
@-mostfpv-
@-mostfpv- Год назад
Hi maaaan... I have Skyzone Cobra S goggles And if I understand correctly... Just buy only the Fusion Board and carefully replace this board on the receiver. Update the glasses to the latest FW? And it is done?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Correct. The Fusion Board module is what has the firmware on it, and when you replace that, it is up to date. Only the Goggle/Glasses to the latest firmware. Not receiver. Make sure to change RF mode from RF-Normal to SteadyViewX mode. Happy flying! 😎👍
@fpvfanatic
@fpvfanatic Год назад
Has anyone solved the issue with switching to rf normal mode then back to steadyview x mode to get video?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Contact skyzone about this -- it's not normal from my understanding.
@Johnygoodfellow
@Johnygoodfellow Год назад
My Steadyview receiver module hardware is v2.1. Can it be updated to the latest Steadyview firmware for instance v3.3/v3.4 ? Or to the 2.1 firmware accordingly to the hardware designation ?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
It's based according to hardware designation. If your hardware is 2.1 like mine, then no, it cannot be upgraded to v3.x firmware as it is totally different hardware running the fusion board.
@Johnygoodfellow
@Johnygoodfellow Год назад
Thanks. Can you simply connect the t v3.3 Fusion Board to the 2.1 module ? Unfortunately Steadyview X mode in my Cobra X v.2 is not working properly or at all.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
@@Johnygoodfellow Yes, that is what I did. I just replaced the top part of my 2021 module. And SteadyView X mode will only work with the new hardware.
@thewookiee78
@thewookiee78 Год назад
I feel like were all misled by Skyzone. The updated module should be free. It's not an upgrade, it's a fix! This is BS.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Agree it really should have been free with only shipping cost needing covered - personally, I think this is a combination of Skyzone stumbling for a couple years with the hardware/software that they had. With so many firmware updates, I believe they legitimately thought that they’d be able to iron it out. But absolutely sold a product still essentially “under development” like so many other companies do in FPV. Frankly, customer service in the FPV hardware space from Chinese based companies is just not what you will ever get from an American company. That was always the “risk/reward” by going with Skyzone - and in doing so, you got a built in receiver for the cost of fatsharks! In my review I loved the skyzones and still do over the fatsharks for so many reasons, but noted that if you need support you could be waiting or just SOL. I put on display here the absolute worst, but the module worked flawlessly in diversity mode for me and mix mode was 100% solid IF I had a camera that the mixer could process properly. This is why there are people who have been totally happy with the SteadyView, they have never and may never run an affected camera on their hardware version/fw. In the end, yeah it’s annoying as hell, but I’m just happy it wasn’t expensive to get the “fix” board and the addition of ELRS backpack option built in was nice too. Grand scheme of everything FPV it’s small change. Appreciate the comment though they need to hear this. I don’t think they will make this mistake again in the future. It’s been damaging to their brand, and now the steadyview has such a terrible rep that I’m not sure anyone will want to get their new external rx SteadyView-X. This has absolutely cost them tons of $$$.
@WindjumbieFPV
@WindjumbieFPV Год назад
Thank you for this, I didn’t have much issues with the v2 at all but the upgrade is definitely an improvement. Do you think the v3 and the v2 will play well together in a quadversity set up? 🤔
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
V2 and V3 hardware cannot be mismatched for quadiversity. You would need to upgrade the V2 module with the fusion board.
@WindjumbieFPV
@WindjumbieFPV Год назад
@@JohnCuppi ooo ok I think I understand
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
@@WindjumbieFPV Yeah, there’s a few posts in the Skyzone FB group that have asked about this and for those who have tested it, mixing a 2.x and a 3.x module together basically just doesn’t work right. 🤷‍♂️ it makes sense since the hardware change between V2 and V3 is extremely significant, they cannot work together. Or maybe Skyzone just doesn’t care to try to make them work, idk. Note, I have not tried it myself and I’m just going off knowledge in the group that I’ve read. I’m not even sure Skyzone has documentation for this specific question anywhere, either.
@WindjumbieFPV
@WindjumbieFPV Год назад
@@JohnCuppi thanks man, Big help 👊🏽
@mopar392ta3
@mopar392ta3 Месяц назад
I just bought the sky04o pro. My module says v3.3 and firmware says v1.1. Do I need to update the firmware? And which files do I need? Thank you in advance
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Месяц назад
Late reply, sorry - but no. You should be good. The firmware version of the module is not the same as the hardware revision.
@mopar392ta3
@mopar392ta3 Месяц назад
@@JohnCuppi thank you. It’s all confusing to me 😂
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Месяц назад
@@mopar392ta3 Yeah, Skyzone has done a terrible job documenting anything honestly. I don’t blame you for being confused.
@MrTFlx
@MrTFlx Год назад
I just bought sky04x how I know if I have the correct steadyview
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Open it up and the version is written on the hardware. Or you can check hardware/software firmware. If you just bought it brand new though, they have been selling it for at least 6 months or more now I'm told.
@glytch5
@glytch5 Год назад
I had two of the 2.1 steadyview modules and goggles. What they BOTH did was when my quad was close to me, I would get EXTREME ghosting, which I hope is a type of desync. I'm about to try the new board! I put in a 35$ akk board that worked perfectly but... that has started to have an issue so I'm thinking about trying to new board. This effect happened with multiple cameras and vtxs. I will say on the new moldule, your videos all look a little shacky! looks like super fine wobbling.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
check this for a reason why you see the 'jitter', it has to do with the deinterlacing -- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ctm56rHNxXo.html
@Dosclic98FPV
@Dosclic98FPV Год назад
Any news on the outcome?
@glytch5
@glytch5 Год назад
@@Dosclic98FPV No, never got the new module to work, old module is still junk I just run it on diversity mode. Sucks but I can't afford new goggles.
@trekkin_fpv5272
@trekkin_fpv5272 Год назад
Nice! Glad Skyzone fixed it. Only took them what, 3 years?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Better late than never. You saw the worst here with my 2.3 hardware, but I pulled these models out of a host of a pile of others that were working great. In the end though everyone was right to suspect that this needed to be solved with hw and at least they didn’t give up. I know TBS fusion had a similar problem and offered an upgrade like this as well. Just glad it’s solved 100%, to not have to worry about what analog camera I come across.
@HaggalaisFPV
@HaggalaisFPV Год назад
I have the v2 of the goggles with the 3.3 module and I need to switch to normal rf mode then back to steadyveiw EVERY time I turn my goggles on if I leave steady view on it won't connect to the drones video is this just my problem or have otherers had this problem ?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
This is not normal at all! If I had to do this, it would drive me insane. You have a problem with your software / hardware / firmware. Reach out to Skyzone. Your goggle’s SteadyviewX mode should be working immediately and connect to your drone’s vtx. Mine remembers everything, including the last band/channel that I use. Does it remember your band/ch or no?
@alexandre7234
@alexandre7234 Год назад
I have the same problem
@pavelr3708
@pavelr3708 Год назад
I have the same problem
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
I can 100% confirm I don’t have the issue with V2 goggles. Be very interesting to hear what Skyzone says about this.
@pavelr3708
@pavelr3708 Год назад
@@JohnCuppi ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DnapiNdxOew.html
@glyngrist3898
@glyngrist3898 9 месяцев назад
Should I see a %value for rssi in the osd? TIA
@mopar392ta3
@mopar392ta3 Месяц назад
To set that up you need to go in the settings I think it’s under the display settings and set it to off and it’ll start on
@GregQuillen
@GregQuillen Год назад
v3.2 is fine. I had a v2.1 and a v3.2 .. my v2.1 broke when i dropped my goggles. So im ordering a new module. So its fixed with v3.2 too? So i only need 1 module
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
My understanding of this is yes, but - better check with Skyzone first. We’re you doing quadiversity with 3.2 and 2.1?
@GregQuillen
@GregQuillen Год назад
@John Cuppi yea I looked seems I had a v2.1 and a v3.2 module. Not sure which came with goggle and which u bought online after getting goggles (I bought 2nd module as soon as my goggles showed up. I had rolling issues at times and some other issues. But my rapid-fire was never perfect either.
@fisioclinicacarlosmolina
@fisioclinicacarlosmolina Год назад
Que puede decirse sobre el RF Steadyview X Mode vs. Modo mix del menú? Cual es la diferencia?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
3.3 ELRS Module, requires the Steadview-X mode. Don’t know why. 🤷‍♂️ RF-Normal mode, not work.
@fisioclinicacarlosmolina
@fisioclinicacarlosmolina Год назад
@@JohnCuppi gracias por responder tan rapido, entonces que debo usar en unas gafas Skauzone Cobra X V2 estandar, RF steadyview X mode o simplemente RF Normal y eligiendo modo Mix desde menú?
@OlivierRefalo
@OlivierRefalo Год назад
I just purchase a Skyzone 04L v2, do I need this hardware?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
I’m not sure about o4L v2. You need to ask where you purchase it from to see if it’s a new or old batch. Then check the module version when you get it, the date/module version will be clear.
@NordFPV
@NordFPV Год назад
wow, cool, and nice it's fixed
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Yeah, I think this is finally it. There may be some situations to iron out that they haven't caught yet, but looks like new hardware was the answer.
@GrimSpeedFPV
@GrimSpeedFPV Год назад
I'm still running skyzone o2c and haven't had any issues so haven't upgraded to anything else yet. I seen the problem with the new receiver in newer goggles and glad I didn't buy them. As for skyzone charging people for this board to fix the problem I really don't think I'll buy another set of skyzones. That should be givin out free in my opinion especially to keep customers with all this better stuff coming out
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
I had issues with select cameras and models as you can see here, but they were a minority not a majority in my collection. I agree that since this was a hardware problem, in the end, they should have sent these out for free minus shipping costs. I believe that's what TBS did. Skyzone has said they are not making any profit from it and they are priced at BOM. IDK.
@MnPaul1
@MnPaul1 Год назад
I screwed up my mainboard doing the dvr upgrade. I broke the 6 pin Zif connector that goes to the right scroll wheel. Skyzone sent me a new cable and connector but sent me the wrong connector so I bought a new main board. Now I have 3 mix modes(1,2 and 3) and diversity. Now I gotta figure out what they do. I was hoping the video would help but no. There are a lot of new options here. You can select bat voltage for the display for correct readings on the OSD.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
There are 3 mixing modes to choose from because they basically have different sync pulse timings. Start with mix1 and see how it behaves, if you get desyncs you can try mix2 or mix3. Everything in this video worked like a charm on mix1. Diversity mode doesn’t use any mixing at all. On older hardware though mix1/2/3 is mainly useless to resolve a lot of the desync issues that were occurring. The new hardware just mixes and functions a lot better.
@MnPaul1
@MnPaul1 Год назад
@@JohnCuppi Thanks John
@Johnygoodfellow
@Johnygoodfellow Год назад
Hi everyone! I'm an owner od Cobra X v.2 (V.3 hardware, firmware 3.4.9). So, finally I've purchased the Fusion Board Steadyview 3.3. Fortunately the randomly appearing black/red screens are missing. However, Steadyview X mode doesn't work properly just like before in older hardware 2.1. Skyzone guys do not answer/help me with this issue. RSSI calibration proceeded. I've tried either steadyview firmware 3.3 or 3.4 and still nothing's changing. If someone has any suggestions what else I can do feel free to give me a piece of information.😔
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi 11 месяцев назад
Are you using the ELRS Steadyview 3.3 or the regular Steadyview 3.3?
@Johnygoodfellow
@Johnygoodfellow 11 месяцев назад
@@JohnCuppi Steadyview 3.3 Fusion Board merged to receiver v.2.1, just extactly as I had been advised by Skyzone team.
@parkswreckfpv3547
@parkswreckfpv3547 Год назад
With quadversity, mix mode is very important. Sometimes i dont hear the beep that the second receiver locked until half way through my flights. Thank you for making this video, i'm going to upgrade both my fusion boards. At the end you said you only need to update the firmware of the goggles but not the modules but if im only getting the fusion board wouldnt the firmware of my receivers still be old? Just trying to figure this out before this stuff shows up :) Happy flying!
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
The Fusion Board is the part of the receiver module that also contains the firmware. So when you replace it, you are up to date. I am not 100% sure about anything specific needed for quadiversity though. Good luck, I hope it works out well for you! Quadiversity didn’t interest me, but since this is fixed, maybe one day I’ll look into it.
@parkswreckfpv3547
@parkswreckfpv3547 Год назад
@@JohnCuppi if you still predominantly fly analog it's definitely worth it. I fly quadversity with the foxeer T-Rex (in my main 5") and at times it feels close to HDZ. Only close, not trying to say analog it's as good as hdz lol. Just bought 2 fusion boards, I'll try to post a video when I get them :)
@parkswreckfpv3547
@parkswreckfpv3547 Год назад
@@JohnCuppi Hey man, just got my new fusion boards and just wanna make sure i do this right. so all i have to do is keep my receiver(s) in the goggles and update the goggle firmware (or do the receiver(s)need to be taken out first?), then once the update is done i remove the receiver(s) and pry the existing fusion board away from the receiver(s). Use an exacto knife if needed to release some of the glue, plop the new fusion boards in its place and i am good to go? i dont wanna brick my goggles or either of my receivers since they are so expensive. I am really excited to get this done, i just got a Mobula 7 and i can only have it in mix mode for about 20-30 seconds before the screen starts turning grey and rolling. Have to shut off the goggles and turn them back on to fix or just switch to diversity, which isnt desirable. Appreciate you, TIA!
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
@@parkswreckfpv3547 When you update the goggle firmware, whether the receiver is in the goggle or not does not matter. I would personally update the goggle with the old receiver installed first. Verify that the upgrade to the goggle firmware worked and that the old receiver is still working. Then, after the goggle firmware is updated, you can pull the receiver out of the goggle and separate the old board from the new, install it, and place it back it. Please be very careful separating the old receiver fusion board, when I removed my old one I accidentally bent a pin. It didn't damage it, but it was scary.
@parkswreckfpv3547
@parkswreckfpv3547 Год назад
@@JohnCuppi haha yeah i noticed the broken plastic for one of the pin slots towards the end of the video. Thanks so much for the quick response i really appreciate it! hopefully i can get a video up this week showing the difference using my mobula, should be night and day dif. I really appreciate your help.
@coolcat7682
@coolcat7682 Год назад
Hi. Just yesterday I received my Fusion board with ELRS. Your video was the most important for my to decide to buy it. But i have some problems with it, first of all with new board it doesn't work in RF Normal mode (no signal received), only in Steadyview X. Second, with Fusion board my VRX is getting very hot in just few minutes of work. Did Anyone notice too overheat the reviewer??
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Hi, the ELRS version requires the SteadyviewX mode. That is normal and it should work fine in that mode. As for the heat - yeah the new receiver does get a bit hotter, but I have not had any problems at all with that.
@coolcat7682
@coolcat7682 Год назад
@@JohnCuppi I hope the heat won't gonna brake anything.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
@@coolcat7682 I left my goggles on for an hour by accident already and it didn't do anything to them. Do you live in a hot climate? There may be some possible concern about performance in very hot climates but I have not seen any evidence of that.
@coolcat7682
@coolcat7682 Год назад
@@JohnCuppi At now I have winter outside and about 3 below zero Celsius. In the summer then can be even 30... Will see how it will behave...
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
@@coolcat7682 I am not that worried, it is designed to run hot I’m sure. One thing to remember, this module has been shipping in new goggles for 6+ months and I haven’t heard of the modules burning out or breaking. 🤷‍♂️
@thewookiee78
@thewookiee78 Год назад
Is it possible to downgrade the goggles firmware? I tried twice and it was unsuccessful. No response from Daniel/Skyzone yet.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
I'll try to find out.
@NykowskiSpaceruje
@NykowskiSpaceruje Год назад
I wonder what would be the comparison between v3.2 (which I own) and v3.3 🤔
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Good question. I didn't even know there was 3.2 hardware. I would reach out to skyzone and ask what the difference is between 3.2 and 3.3, it's possibly very significant or not at all.
@NykowskiSpaceruje
@NykowskiSpaceruje Год назад
@@JohnCuppi Would be great, because this question for me is unsolved, and I don't know if I should upgrade :) Thanks!
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
@@NykowskiSpaceruje I asked and got sort of a mixed response on this. He said that version 3.3 was basically perfect, but that if you don’t have any problems with rolling, or dark images on 3.2 then you don’t have to buy 3.3, there’s no need. That sort of implies that 3.2 is obviously ‘worse’ than 3.3 but it doesn’t sound significant.
@NykowskiSpaceruje
@NykowskiSpaceruje Год назад
@@JohnCuppi Thanks mate! Best regards!
@fyzobaba
@fyzobaba 4 месяца назад
STEADYVIEW IS NOT WORKING ON THE NEW V3.3. I HAVE TRIED ALL THE RF'S STEADYVIEW, RF NORMAL, AND RACING NOTHING HELPS. EXCEPT I'M USING DIVERSITY MODE WHICH IS JUST FAIR ENOUGH. AM I MISSING SOMETHING???
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi 4 месяца назад
Contact Skyzone, your receiver sounds defective.
@fyzobaba
@fyzobaba 4 месяца назад
@@JohnCuppi is this meant to be in RF steadyview x mode or RF normal mode for the version 3.3 fusion board?
@MrBumbles2
@MrBumbles2 Год назад
Yes i have times where its so bad and black i cant see where i am, but its seems to be with the caddix ant but not always, most of my quads ive switched to runcam Phoenix 2 nano and no issue. But there are times its bad but goes away very random. I wish i could order the fusion in the states. Haven't found it anywhere, and yes they should just send it to people having issues.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
You will probably not find it stocked stateside anywhere ever in the future. There just isn’t enough demand for the fusion board for stateside vendors to order a lot in bulk and stock this item. Skyzone claims they are already selling it at a small loss. So it’d also be an item which they will also make almost no profit on either, another no go for stateside vendors. My order just took a couple of weeks from Skyzone, it was not a long wait.
@MrBumbles2
@MrBumbles2 Год назад
@@JohnCuppi going to have to order through skyzone or buy another nano cam. My th2 was terrible tin i put runcam and rush tank mini on it.
@usonic470
@usonic470 Год назад
Can anyone confirm if fixed v3.3 fusion board is compatible with v1.2 receiver?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
I have asked Skyzone and will let you know what they say.
@usonic470
@usonic470 Год назад
@@JohnCuppi I asked them as well:D anyway, thanks! Let's see how it goes...
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
@@usonic470 They got back to me and said Yes.
@usonic470
@usonic470 Год назад
@@JohnCuppi looks like you have good communication channels:) Thanks a lot for checking that.
@CarolinaAirshots
@CarolinaAirshots Год назад
Fpv is ever changing, but at least it's for the better
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
We are all beta testers for these FPV products unfortunately, even the expensive ones. Thanks for the comment, appreciate it!
@DiraPictures
@DiraPictures Год назад
I ordered the skyo4x a week ago on banggood. I hope there is the New hardware in it
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Skyzone says they have been shipping the new hardware since mid-2022 so it probably is, unless banggood has very old stock.
@DiraPictures
@DiraPictures Год назад
Hey i got my Googles yesterday and tested it now. It hast the new 3.3 hardware, but i have a Question i cant find any answer in the Internet... What does the rf modes normal, steadyview x and Race, etc. mean?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
@@DiraPictures Sorry, I didn't see this for some reason, did you get this sorted? If you have the newest 3.3 hardware+ELRS, choose SteadyView X. Otherwise, choose RF-Normal.
@slamonfpv
@slamonfpv Год назад
thanks for that my firefly and tinyhawk f11 both are terrible with skyzone
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Yeah, I had the 2021 hardware with the latest firmware on it and the tinyhawk freestyle II was the WORST. it's the camera, but it is fixed now.
@slamonfpv
@slamonfpv Год назад
@@JohnCuppiI just got my v3 and put it in God Dam the difference is amazing thanks so much for putting this up it made me do something about it 🤘
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
@@slamonfpv Thanks for coming back to take the time to let me know this helped you 😎 have a good one!
@slamonfpv
@slamonfpv Год назад
@@JohnCuppi no worries bro if i had not seen your vid i would have missed out on a great upgrade
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
@@slamonfpv Sad to say this “upgrade” is what the product should have been this whole time :( but in the end this ends up being a, much, MUCH cheaper fix than buying a rapidfire.
@mikeexplorer7893
@mikeexplorer7893 Год назад
Why Skyzone need to sell fusion bord when they could just make firmware upgrade?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
The new hardware has a faster, better processor. That is the actual fix, the old hardware itself was simply not good enough, and cannot be fixed with firmware.
@MANDOXsquid
@MANDOXsquid Год назад
change the TH2 antenna to a rhcp and put a ufl connector on it. VTX works great then
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Yeah, I know. I honestly just want to replace the entire thing, because trying to solder a ufl connector on it or stripping an antenna and soldering the 3 points is a pain in the ass. I don't fly it often enough at all to go to work on it at the moment. Whoever thought that including a vtx with no ufl connector on it was a smart idea at emax on the second go around of this quad should be smacked.
@reimontes666
@reimontes666 9 месяцев назад
Y R U PERFORMING TESTS W/ DEAD LIPOS?
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi 9 месяцев назад
They're not dead, the voltage sensor is just a little off on some of these drones.
@donphobos
@donphobos Год назад
In the end I have designed an adapter for TBS Fusion and fly happy since that. Never ever Skyzone again, lost my faith in them.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
A lot of people did switch to rapidfire or fusion if they were crafty enough to make an adapter - but, there are also a lot of people like me that had an okay but not perfect rx and stuck with it or just flew diversity when mix didn’t work out. The new one gave me a working upgrade path that did fix the issues. It’s a shame that it took so long for Skyzone to correct this, but it is what it is.
@donphobos
@donphobos Год назад
I had very bright white flashes in diversity mode, which were unbearable. Strong headache as result.
@smokehead5318
@smokehead5318 Год назад
I am sorry, but one and probably most important thing that is missing in Your before and after comparison is SUN. Most of that desync things happend more often on sunny day same as Your BEFORE, but all Your AFTERs have been made when sun was behind clouds. Anyway cheers for that.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
I’ve never heard the sun was a relevant factor in the SteadyView desyncing at all. And in my personal experience, it has not been one. It did not matter whether it was overcast or not, the tinyhawk freestyle, the betafpv quad, would desync all the same. I have since flown a few packs on the affected models in sunlight, and they are not still desyncing. Even if it was not shown in this particular video. I understand the sun changes the camera shutter, but I am not convinced it is a relevant test parameter when I can easily reproduce a failed sync in overcast OR sunny conditions for them. I picked these because it was so immediately easy (with the only exception being the moblite7) to get a bad result at virtually any test time.
@fyzobaba
@fyzobaba 4 месяца назад
AFTER READING ALL THE COMMENTS HERE, HERE IS MY QUESTION. ARE YOU WORKING FOR SKYZONE JOHN CUPPI? COS U SEEMS TO SAY EVERYONE'S FUSION BOARD IS DEFECTIVE. I HAVE CHANGED CAMERAS ( CADDX ANT RUN CAM PHOENIX 2, FOXEER NANO 4) AND THE ISSUES ARE STILL THE SAME. THE MIX MODE IS NOT FIXED YET EVEN IN THE V3.3!!!!!
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi 4 месяца назад
I don't work for skyzone, I bought this myself, and the video doesn't even have affiliate links -- so a comment like this, frankly, fuck off!
@fyzobaba
@fyzobaba 4 месяца назад
I see the kind of person you are. U can swear as much as u like but don't mislead people. Good luck!
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi 4 месяца назад
@@fyzobaba you’re the asshole who accused me of working for Skyzone and lying, so yeah, go fuck yourself.
@lemonsquareFPV
@lemonsquareFPV Год назад
LOL. No they did not. Check out my video... You may go to hell if you view it... but you know... Could be fun :p Apparently mine is working properly. I have been talking to the useless support for months... months! With only hoops that I have to jump through, always asking me to do there job for them... FOR MONTHS, with no resolution. Months... months! LOL Skyzone. I would save the headache and get something else... honestly even the Eachine and Foxeer modules are better, and they are not even "proper" modules. Get a TBS or IRC module, those have been always really, really good for me. And TBS can now use ELRS backpack!!! So that's cool!
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
Oof. That looks terrible. Is that the same result for all quads for you with the new module? That looks straight up defective, and also literally like FPV Hell if there was one... Lol.
@lemonsquareFPV
@lemonsquareFPV Год назад
@@JohnCuppi more or less, some cameras are better than others, and some are almost a solid colour, but all are unflyable. I now have every module Skyzone ever made, more than 50% have some major fault. Some work well… but still nowhere close to a proper module consistency and quality wise. I can’t wait to send all this equipment back, and hate that I went out of my way to work with them, wasting my time. Skyzone is by far the worst company I have worked with.
@auck1969
@auck1969 Год назад
Thank you.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi Год назад
You're welcome thanks for commenting, hope you're doing well!
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