SL: Dr. Fung is WRONG about INSULIN & FAT LOSS 

Berg, EdBerg, and Dr. Fung are the three main ones I know of. There's also Dr. Paul Mason, an Australian doctor on RU-vid who I think is always saying some dubious things.

Thomas Delauer is another prominent figure in this sphere. You may want to include him as well!

@@donwinston Ken MD berry is another carnivore and keto zealot who is quite popular

Would be interesting if you would find a point of dispute with Bart Kay, Phd or Layne Norton, Phd. Both have RU-vid channels. Both are published scientists.

@@mathfaster Nic seems to agree with almost everything Norton says, at least by the looks of what I've seen

I'm really glad, Steve. Congratulations on your success.

IF has worked for you because it produced a calorie deficit. The issue with Jason Fung is that he promotes IF as some kind of panacea that cures everything, when in fact, a lot of the benefits are due to the calorie deficit IF tends to introduce, and not due to something restricted to IF in particular. I too find IF to be an effective diet, but when calories are equated, just about any diet produces similar results.

Good. I've had similar experiences. I use it to lose body fat.

Same!

Eating less often gives your stomach time to shrink. So it takes less food to fill it up.

When you switched to OMAD, did you also replace fast-digesting refined carbs with slow-digesting fibrous carbs? Because fibrous carbs stay in your belly longer, which would keep you feeling full longer.

@@kedabro1957 no, I eat whatever I want.

I appreciate it, Silv. That’s been the goal. Glad it carries through.

Haha, thanks, Jesper. I’m trying to step up my RU-vid game without losing integrity. And yes, I agree - there’s a lot that can be avoided by simply avoiding over consumption.

>>> simply by not overconsuming food of any food group ¿que? ANY food group? NOT overconsuming kale & spinach & cabbage & cucumbers & dandylions can prevent heart disease? ¿wut? If one did overconsume this food group, of necessity one would displace other things (baked goods, colas ...)

@@SanjeevSharma-vk1yo the idea is moderation. even good food group needs it. kale with thyroid, cucumber with blood clots, and if you eat anything with the peel, u should go for organic to avoid the high pesticide. dandelions, although harmless may have some side effects. cabbage is nice but could give major gas and bloats. if you lack a certain food group, then it is ok to overconsume to rebalance your body but once your body has enough, don't force it. I used to crave 6 cucumbers daily, but now I just eat 1-2 /day and my body doesn't want it anymore. being healthy is not about the numbers and statistics, you have to feel it as well, if your body doesn't want it, don't force it because somewhere you read said its good. something that might be good for others might not be good for you. when in doubt, just be normal and don't overindulge

I’ll check out Bikman. Thanks, John.

@@Physionic Thank you! I'm not a scientist by any stretch of the imagination, but I find your videos very helpful and interesting.

@@Physionic You'll like him. His mantra is "Data, not dogma."

Conflict is entertaining to people, yes haha. Watching that would be fun

I didn't insult anyone; I refuted his points. Insults are "he looks funny, he's stupid, etc."; professional disagreement is "he's wrong, because point A, point B, etc." - I did the latter and always do.

@@PhysionicNo, you didn't insult anyone. sorry. My fault. I wasn't clear. I was speaking of your audience as you address their expected backlash to your criticism of the beloved Dr. Fung. If we (your viewers) want to learn, it's best the we do it in a discussion rather than by insulting you. English is my second language and I do not always make myself clear. By the way, your prescpective and messages are invaluable. Thanks for a great channel filled with a wealth of updated knowledge.

Oh, I hear you. Agreed, Jay. Thank you - things don’t work without people like you, either, so thank you.

If you’re speaking to me, what insults?

@@Physionic . Sorry, I thought I was clear. I’ve read harsh words directed to you because you corrected some Drs well established. I’m remembering Dr Eric Berg. Counter arguing is good, but no insults are needed

insults aren't needed, but if they're funny and accurate they might be helpful and entertaining. everyone(*) loves some cheekiness. *-not everyone

Well, of course. Glad to hear it’s helped you with your success.

You should check out my fasting content if you feel so strongly about it, Tom.

comments sections also suggested masks and vaccines stop c19 transmission, but we all see how that went. You'll learn about science through data and an understanding of proper methodological control, the differences between prototype trials and mass-production, an understanding of the importance of proper blinding, maintenance of control groups, or the effect of conflicts of interest on producing junk results disguising themselves as "evidence based medicine". So no... aggregating comment sections will not reliably bring you towards truth.

Hi Jason - thank you for the feedback. I appreciate you letting me know; I'll work on my clarity in the future. As for your second point, you're right, carbohydrates, especially liquid carbs, are less satiating. However, the type of carbohydrate makes a difference, as well. I have no doubt what Dr. Fung has mentioned has worked in the past and will work in the future - my only qualm is he doesn't explain why they work, correctly. No doubt he's helped, however.

Thank you, Indu.

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Hi, you become insulin resistant when you have too much of it and you have too much of it when you eat too many high refined carbs, so, avoid them.

@@RuiBarreiras Oh wow, it’s that simple? Thank you! 😊

​@@desireebaby9515 yes, it´s that simple. By the way, fasting can be a great tool :)

Thanks!

Do you have any measurements or citations? I'd like to see more than bravado if you're going to lecture on what "science" is.

@@gregg6398 Sure I do, You could have looked it up in 5 seconds. Some of the many benefits of fasting on the immune system, blood pressure, blood sugar and anti-aging, all backed up by clinical data: Thymus stem cells are regenerated, which suppresses aging and renews the immune system. Fasting stimulates phagocytosis, the ingestion of bacteria and viruses by the immune system. Blood pressure is quickly and dramatically lowered, which is very important for a good outcome with the current pandemic. Fasting increases nitric oxide, which has manifold postive effects like reducing arterial plaque. Weight loss from fasting only loses10% lean tissue and 90% fat compared to the typical 25% lean tissue and 75% fat lost when calorically restricting for long periods. Blood clotting is reduced and blood clots and arterial plaque are reabsorbed into the body. Vitamin D plasma levels are increased, and vitamin D in turn increases autophagy! Blood sugar and insulin are lowered, allowing white blood cells to move more freely throughout the body and do their job. Ideal blood sugar is around 80. Some viruses activate glycolosis (the release of sugar in the body) and clinically it has been shown that decreasing glucose metabolism in the body weakens the influenza virus. It's absolutely fine for cortisol to be high while fasting, because it produces sugar from fat instead of lean tissue ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-giEDadzoErs.html The hormone Leptin is an immunomodulator that keeps the body from attacking itself and obesity causes leptin resistance. Fasting very quickly reduces leptin resistance and leptin levels and one day of fasting can cut your leptin levels in half and gets your immune system working properly again! When you move out of MTOR your body shuts down the building blocks of the cell which are used to produce organelles and proteins. This means the mechanisms needed by viruses to replicate are by and large unavailable when you are in a deeply fasted state. It stimulates the AMPK complex and activates autophagy. Autophagy (literally self eating) will cause cells to recycle foreign matter such as viruses and kill cancerous and senescent cells. AMPK does many helpful things in the body including activating the body's antioxidant defenses. Does fast burn muscle? In most cases no! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-teQIaU6wp2o.html Deep ketosis virtually eliminates chronic inflammation in the body. This can offset the life threatening symptoms of viral pneumonia which effectively kills you through inflammation. This also creates BHB ketones in your body, which also help your immune system and anti-oxidative system, especially in the brain. Ketones also provide an additional energy source during infection, which is critical when trying to fight off a bug. In fact you can have as much as three times the total energy available in your blood when you are in deep ketosis, or even more. It increases mitochondrial function and repairs mitichondrial DNA, leading to improved ATP production and oxygen efficiency and thereby making cells better able to fight off infection. Increased mitochondrial function also has the added benefit of increasing your metabolism and cancer prevention! Fasts from 36-96 h actually INCREASE metabolic rate! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BeC_gIR2Z14.html Your body releases interferon which is also triggered by the body during viral attacks to shut down the replication ability of the surrounding cells and stop infections. After 72 hours or more fasted, your body actually recycles large numbers of immune bodies and creates new ones, rejuvenating your entire system. When you fast, this stimulates apoptosis in senescent or genetically damaged cells. This kills these cells off completely. Senescent cells are responsible for the effects of aging and are the root cause of the development of cancer. If it were possible to destroy them all it would completely stop aging and cancer. That is not possible but fasting can help limit these effects by killing off many of the affected cells and limiting the future effects of aging. Fasting also releases BDNF and NGF in the blood which stimulates new nerve and brain cell growth, helping a great deal with diseases like MS, peripheral neuropathy and Alzheimers. In fact, the biochemical precursor to BDNF is beta-hydroxybutyrate, which is the same ketone the body produces to nourish the brain while fasting. Autophagy induced by fasting even helps hair regrow. What breaks a fast? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7aRLsCpxy3o.html Dieters losing weight through intermittent fasting show greater reduction in waist size and increase in insulin sensitivity for the same weight lost and alternate day fasters were shown to lose fat while gaining muscle at the same time over a six month period. Fasting has been shown to increase bone marrow volume by 10% and levels of carnosine in the body in as little as a few weeks. Fasting also increases telomere length, negating some of the effects of aging at a cellular level. Eating one meal a day can bring most of these benefits to a lesser degree, and adding a few entire days off from eating per week will have even more effect especially when starting to feel poorly. Exogenous ketones can aid with fasting, making it easier in healthy people and allowing some people with specific issues to fast in spite of them without worrying as much about hypoglycemia. Children, pregnant or nursing women should not fast for periods longer than 16 hours. People with pancreatic tumors or certain forms of hypoglycemia generally cannot fast at all. Type 1 diabetics can also fast but it is more complicated and should be approached with caution as it could lead to ketoacidosis. Those with Addison's disease may also be unable to fast without liberal use of exogenous ketones, depending on severity. If you experience extreme symptoms of some kind, especially dizziness then simply break the fast and seek advice. 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@@LTPottenger oh wow. That's the first time anyone actually answered with links in... I can't remember. A very long time. I really wasn't expecting that. Looks like I have something to read. I retract my snark. Thanks - I appreciate it.

lol?

I don’t think I’d condemn him for that, necessarily.

High refined carb diets are killing people

Haha, agreed, Cavan. I tend toward leaning that fasting is beneficial, overall.

I love a little salt with my meals.

Well, when they're just ad hominem, I think I can at least say it isn't because they disagree with me on an intellectual basis, using science and reason.

What about it?

You will still lose weight/fat, Kuldip.

@@Physionic thank you 😊 🙏

Well? How did it go? How much weight did you lose?

@@LinguisticPhonology 100%. They died.

When you understand calories don't exist then all will be clear to you my child. It's all about hormones, food source, and quantity consumed, hint calories are NOT a measurement of quantity.

@@robertt8874 cheers grandad, so if you understand the process why not explain it or are you just saying that true believers don’t need to understand, just believe? Nah, that’s for the disciples of Dr Fung

@@jayhoughton4174 Do you know the history of the invention of the calorie? Do you know the calorie is a made up mathematical unit of measurement, not a physical property found in food? Did you know the first HUMAN based study of calories as energy didn't happen till the 70s and disproved the "calories as energy" theory? Did you know the "calories as energy" theory is based on an out dated theory from the 1840s that the body operates the same as a steam engine? I could keep going on and on, lol

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-F8WYaiUNZn4.html

@@robertt8874 do you know the answer to my question or not? If not please stop waffling on like conspiracy theorist

That's a great point - you're right, glucagon does play a factor. However, other hormones beyond glucagon do, as well.

Milk is good, mTOR is necessary. What are you asking?

@@Physionic >Milk is good including the pus and factory-farming cruelty? > mTOR is necessary. yes, it's necessary for cancer-causing IGF-1. yes, that's sarcasm ;)

​@@SanjeevSharma-vk1yo cruelty does not influence weight gain or loss. If it's the most effective, I'll take the cruelest diet possible. Diet of newborn kittens and dogs fed their own children if need be. Heck, ill even eat your grandchildren with some BBQ sauce if it works ;) Come here little red.

Always ppl who yoyo diet, while they do lose weight and fat, it's not a healthy lifestyle. Low carb, low fat or low cal with exercise and the right nutrients is best for weigtloss. Intermittent fasting is a good way to lose weight, as the doc points out. It doesn't cause your body to go into starvation mode bc ppl have fat stores. Unfortunately, there're many of those ignorant prople whose metabolism is "broken" from yoyoing weight or any other crazy dieting.

There isn't necessarily a point save to explain the mechanisms more clearly. I'm not opposed to the VLCHF diet, but I cover that in other content, Debra. I will say, some of his explanations are incorrect, as well - another reason I wanted to add some context.

Increase it.

Elevates mildly...

@@Physionic you may have covered it in another video so forgive me if I am asking a question you have answered a 100 times since I just found your channel. Where do you stand on how much protein a day is needed? I have read .6 grams per kilogram of desired body weight all the way up to hundreds a day?

No worries, Randy. Are you exercising? If so, what type?

@@Physionic I am 197.5 pounds as of Yesterday’s weekly weigh in. I am 43 years old and per a plastic surgeon I have about 10 or so pounds of skin on me from my 430 pound days.

his point is : Dr. Fung is WRONG about INSULIN & FAT LOSS

It’s simple disagreement between professionals trying to get the actual science out in the open.

@@Physionic I've never heard the 3 magic letters "ASP" from Dr. Fung. It's been 8 years at least since I heard it from Taubes. Never heard about the insulin-stimulating effects of the GLP-1 agonists. And these are only the tip of a veritable iceberg. They're not about the science now. They have a bad guy for their fantasies & IMHO they'll never let go of it. Especially Taubes, who's been insulting scientists for 10 years now, starting with Keys (and getting his protege to pile on) and most recently Kevin Hall. Fung's only been accusing them of being bought off for 3 years maybe? So he hasn't dug as deep a hole yet.

For some, that’s a great way to go.

@@Physionic I know you're just replying to everyone in the comments, but do you truly believe that? Don't you think there is an "ideal" diet out there, or a certain ratio of the 3 macronutrients?

@@vincentFGC no. individual differences are pretty vast in humans. Even if the results were the same in KG, the emotional/perspectival individual evaluation of the success would not be the same.

To insult me? Because they do regardless.

It's called a joke.