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@@piotrkostecki_ There are people buying these cars so there's no need to offend them this way. Besides - in Europe both are very popular as the second car in family while the first one is way more interesting than E350. The reason for that - both are giving great fun in areas where main one can't be driven.
pretty decent for both of them , I own the Dacia. With lock and ESP off the system tries to deliver 25% in each wheel making it work like a diff lock. Does not always work perfectly but in general when you put lock you always deactivate the ESC
Panda is lighter then Duster and in off road this may help, they are both valid but from the video It seems to me that Duster system works better than panda maybe it has a more advanced electronic system because it is newest than Panda. Very good both on the whole
Actually the Panda have the newest system the different is that panda have electronic hydraulic system with two differential one fore and one rere same as Haldex don't have center diff. From the other hand the duster have electronic magnetic system with center lock but this is the older system come from Nissan x trail fist generation. It's good system and helps also the traction control.. but if you keep lock for hours start to overheating the coupling..
@@georgebarbaris1084 I'm quite sure Panda 4x4 ha 3 differential, the front and the rear are normal diff. or open differential with electronic ABS system which locks the slipping wheel when necessary, the central differential is a electro-hidraulic diff. or a sort of primitive Haldex (in the previus model was viscous similar to Ferguson which losed efficiency with the heat during the strong and continuous use) which can trasfer the engine couple from the front to the rear until 50:50, this electro hydraulic differential is located on the rear near the rear opened classic differential. I don't know very well the Nissan traction ... thank you.
@@massimilianodazzi3315 that's correct but What I meant that the four-wheel drive is based on two axes and the third differential you say is not differential but electric hydraulic multi disc clutch.
@@massimilianodazzi3315 What you refer to as a differential is actually not a differential. It's a clutch-pack shifting power from front to back (one way - means one input, one output).
@@georgebarbaris1084 ok yes It is non a real differential but an Electronic hydraulic clutch 👍Panda cross is a very good 4x4 very efficient in the snow ecc. But from the video on The roller tests It seems Duster is more efficient above all in The Last one isn't It ?
The EDL in the new Duster is a killer!!!! I have a LockRight locker in the rear axle and it only makes a difference at low RPM. Above 2500 the EDL is absolute MAGIC 👍
Well, here in South Africa at Brakkeduine sand circuit, the 2 Jimnys did not even manage to get to the testing track 😂 Low rear differentials ground clearance ....
@@1wasinAlpha Not really. It was the poor, rear axle ground clearance. Any rocks higher than 20cm and you are stuck. You can use monentum and pray the impact won't crack open your rear diff 😢 The issue with the Jimny is: lifting the chassis won't improve the rear axle ground clearance... Only larger tires will do that. On the other hand, after a cheap body lift on my Duster (spacers on top of the springs), I have a whopping 31cm rear differential clearance. Not even the Ford Everests and the Toyota Fortuners can do that. When driving in Botswana, Namibia or Mozambique, I wait until a solid axel 4x4 drives past and I follow... His rear axle flattens the road for me 😂
new VW polo is bigger than old polos. why Fiat Panda must be so small.? it can be bigger like daihatsu or jimny. .4x4 performance is good at Panda . but as a car it is small.. not useful
We drive a Panda 4x4 with roof tent and a kitchen with tank and water system in the back. It’s 1.3 diesel with 95PS its small for narrow roads anywhere Italy, France, Greece no problem… what there is a petty that there are not many aluminium rims and off-road tires but now we have Pirelli Scorpions 🦂 and its really great also on gravel roads and since we habe upgraded to B6 dampers its like a cat on wheels even with equipment and luggage 🧳 📷
@@Byk37 the new Panda III (312) 4x4 1.3 Petrol Multijet 70KW/95PS Chiptuning 115PS; Front Shocks Bilstein B6 + Oldman Emu Springs (+20mm); Back Dampers Oldman Emu + Oldman Emu Springs (+20); next will be new Tires (Pirelli or Michelin) and plus 20mm per side. The front shocks improve the control in steering curves a lot! With the Back Kitchen and Roof-Tent a fun to ride.
@@Byk37 sad thing: ours only have five plus rear… is there a six shift gear box for that engine? Wondering if one could change it? We love the engine very robust, and the less drinking 4x4 on the market this car is showing of what would be possible following this path its so much better than so called german engineering.
@@propylaeen there was till 2010 6 speed manual, after 2010 fiat disabled 6 speed option for 1.3 multijet (Grande Punto for example). That engine was built in many other vehicles, for example Opel was putting it in Corsa D with 6 speed manual still after 2010. I'm thinking it's economic reasons, people would't buy other engines if they have 6 speed option with this one...
