Small Engine Repair Valve Lash Clearance Adjustment on Honda, Predator, or any Engine

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With that loud of an engine knock it was a long shot to just reset the valve lash clearance. If you watch to the end you will see the engine knocking is coming from the connecting rod on the shaft. Since nobody reads this description I’ll probably get a lot of people saying they knew right off hand that it was the connecting rod. This video isn’t to all those small engine experts. Its for those fix it in your garage type that want to add something to their bag of tricks.
Keep in mind, do this when the engine is cold.
This system works for all small engines. Doesn’t matter if you have a Honda, Briggs, Tecumseh, or even everyone’s favorite the Harbor Freight Predator 212. If you remove the pull cord assembly and it doesn’t have a triangle to designate TDC, top dead center (or both valves fully closed), you can pull the spark plug and put a screwdriver in and see when the piston is at TDC, then continue.
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@wondersofnature6337 2 года назад

Wow, I just fixed my generation with this, thanks

@-DIYPRO- 2 года назад

Fantastic!

@simonilett998 9 месяцев назад

Easiest way to adjust the clearance is by turning the crank until one valve is all the way open/down, then adjust the oposite valve. In this example the piston is actually almost ay BDC each time, and no need to be on the correct TDC stroke, and also no chance you are accidentally adjusting during the TDC valve overlap position instead of TDC compression. This method also avoids accidentally adjusting the exhaust valve while the decompression cam is acting on the exhaust valve lifter/tappet👍 Also, try to leave the feeler gauge between the lash gap while tightening the lock nut, if the feeler gauge slips out you're gap is too loose, if it's hard to remove you're gap is too tight. If it's just right, the feeler gauge will be held in place but won't be too difficult to remove ince the lock nut is tightened. Minor point, the area that got hot shown in the video was the crankshaft journal, not the conrod, but most likely both will be worn, moreso the conrod being it's aluminium.

@kbach6524 3 месяца назад

Saw in another video that leaving the feeler gauge in can damage it (if the nut tightens down on it and causes indentations).. maybe not in your example, but something to be aware of

@simonilett998 3 месяца назад

@@kbach6524 Possibly, but of course you need to hold the adjuster screw firmly to try to avoid it moving when tightening the lock nut. Feeler gauges are generally quite hard, so I'd assume there would be more chance of the valve starting to open before indenting the feeler gauge.

@kameronday7645 Год назад

Thank you for this video, you helped me fix my thatcher🙌🏻

@-DIYPRO- Год назад

No problem 👍

@DewoncheBrown-bp3nc 3 месяца назад

Thank you for inviting us to dinner. I didn't realize this! Food 4 thought.

@-DIYPRO- 3 месяца назад

Any time!

@chrisfishdawg 7 месяцев назад

Great video, very helpful! 🤙🏽

@colinjones5209 3 года назад

Something to be aware of... all threads have back lash.. (slop) as you found out. Set your lock nut on top to be in slight firm contact with your bottom nut when you feeler gauge. Both those male threads to nuts fight each other on tightening and yes male threads DO flex as well....

@-DIYPRO- 3 года назад

Thanks for the input.

@jimmyross4352 2 года назад

@Colin Jones Thanks,Colin. that is exactly the problem we ( a car mechanic and I ) are having!

@colinjones5209 2 года назад

Good luck mate, it’s hard to judge the skill level of a mechanic and there is a lot of luck involved in getting the right one. Older mechanics with a very good attitude tend to learn and retain information

@user-lm9sf6le5n Год назад

❤❤

@cr8819rs 8 месяцев назад

You don't have any idea how much you helped me i pressure washer would not start and i fixed the valve and worked perfect thank you.

@jackjohnson9349 4 года назад

There are two TDC (top dead center) on 4-cycle engines. I think you need to be sure it's TDC on the compression stroke when adjusting valves. This makes a difference on certain engines I was told. I'm by no means an expert on small engines but found this out the hard way.

@kevinrhodes9082 4 года назад

That's true, but it's easy to tell which stroke you are on if you can see the rockers/valves. TDC compression, both valves are closed. TDC exhaust, the exhaust valve is open.

@ajay-xr9gp 3 года назад

U can check tdc by pointing piston with a screw driver

@Z3n1tHL0rD 3 года назад

@@ajay-xr9gp on a 4 stroke the piston goes to the top twice in a cycle

@ajay-xr9gp 3 года назад

@@Z3n1tHL0rD yes but by navigating the tappets which is moving during rotating engine...

@philipketchell8369 2 года назад

Place your thumb over the spark plug hole and rotate the engine, once you feel compression that is the correct cycle to adjust the valves get piston at top dead center...

@koowonjosiah9262 2 года назад

Wow what a nice videos, I'm so happy to see such a unique videos from you! I am from Liberia my name is Josiah, can you make a video for me? how to change a piston rings, I have Little little problems on how to set a ring on a piston, I have my own generators at home 2.5kv, I really need more updates from you and appreciate

@-DIYPRO- Год назад

Won't be much help, I don't do much with pistons. Take care!

@ajokpaniovojoel1049 3 года назад

Wao,I appreciate you,you made it simple and straightforward,Thanks.

@alanhowarth2801 Год назад

Simple, informative video. Should be more like it. Thanks.

@-DIYPRO- Год назад

Right on!

@stevenkinnison8044 Год назад

I have never used a set of feeler gauges on these. I just tighten them until they barely wiggle and have had zero issues out of any of them.

@-DIYPRO- Год назад

Hey if it works, it works!

@-DIYPRO- Год назад

Right on!

@chamwow168 3 года назад

Thank you, very helpful

@-DIYPRO- 3 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@filzex8313 3 года назад

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@southernoutdoorsman8828 3 года назад

My brothers mini bike did the same thing we tried to adjust the valves it ended up being the piston arm the two bolts backed out we took the side case off and tighten them up and no more ticking

@dougthomasmusic Год назад

Wow, never heard of that but glad you figured it out. 😀

@utubakuigigi6682 2 месяца назад

Thank you so very much sir for the info

@-DIYPRO- 2 месяца назад

Right on, thanks!

@raygarcia8989 Год назад

Thank you very much big man Thanks for sharing your great knowledge 👍.

@-DIYPRO- Год назад

Thanks!

@ldonkfurnitureksatv2130 6 месяцев назад

watching from Mindanao Philippines

@tonyjackson4099 2 года назад

Not sure if you mentioned... I FF'ed through video, but spec is also within +/-.02mm. In inches these Hondas are .006 intake, .008 exhaust, +/-.001.

@-DIYPRO- 2 года назад

Good point. Except that you fast forwarded through the video, haha!

@RayThackeray 13 дней назад

Are you mixing up imperial and metric?

@craigbrown7956 2 года назад

Rotate engine. Observe the inlet valve go down. Observe the inlet valve come up.......continue rotation slowly. First TDC.......is the position to measure valve clearance. Dont confuse the feeler guages metric mm or thousands of a inch.

@-DIYPRO- 2 года назад

Great points!

@TheReignharder 4 месяца назад

This should be pinned as top comment - one can get this so wrong if you don't know what you're doing - like this video.

@Prariedog 4 года назад

Would you know the feeler guage needed for 210 cc powerease BE water transfer pump. It's a 7 horse engine . Thanks

@-DIYPRO- 4 года назад

Sorry you'll have to look up the spec sheet.

@arizonadirtdonthurt7154 3 года назад

Thanks my dude

@-DIYPRO- 3 года назад

Any time!

@arizonadirtdonthurt7154 3 года назад

The push rod slipped out on my intake side and lost all compression but i got it fixed thanks to your video

@oneofone2414 Год назад

I have a wpx3200 pressure washer and can’t get it to start. I did valve adjustment and found intake rocker arm was very loose and could rotate it without even loosening nut and exhaust valve was too tight. Did the adjustment and now it feels better when pulling cord but still won’t start. Cleaned carb, fresh gas, new spark plug and gets spark, air filter is good, with fresh gas. Any other suggestions? Doesn’t start with starter fluid either. I do get some pops when attempting to start like some backfire.

@deiselnoe1 2 года назад

This saved me on a service call im normally a deisel engine tech, hopefully I did right lol

@-DIYPRO- 2 года назад

Right on!

@froggert119 7 дней назад

Fucking thank you man, nobody online knows TDC for these damn things

@mikebabirad2465 3 года назад

Thanx very helpful

@-DIYPRO- 3 года назад

Most welcome

@delynnaddams8774 7 месяцев назад

What would cause the jam nut to tighten causing exhaust valve to tighten after running just once or even a few runs? Thanks

@dw4940 3 года назад

Thanks for post

@-DIYPRO- 3 года назад

You're welcome

@str8xrippin Месяц назад

I adjusted my valves which was needed as I saw they were over tightened. Now that the valves fully seal up the engine is extremely hard to turn. As if the compression release isn't working. I'm stumped. It ran fine before so idk what's going on

@larrywilbanks1610 9 месяцев назад

How do know which is intake & exhaust if they are stacked on top of each other not side by side

@mikeinpenna 3 года назад

I had to replace the push rod guide plate on my Gentron generator, looks like a Honda knock off. I only found a cap on the exhaust valve spring. Is there suppose to be a cap on the intake side also?

@bommel88 3 года назад

I can't guarantee but the ones I saw so far didn't have one on the intake valve.

@xaviermccloud4586 2 года назад

No.

@patdennis3751 2 года назад

Finding tdc is not necessary to adjust valves. Just rotate engint till the valve you want to adjust has it's tappet on the base circle of the cam, ie valve fully closed. This makes it so you need not remove the recoil start assy.

@-DIYPRO- 2 года назад

Great point.

@dougthomasmusic Год назад

This is true. Well said.

@seanmayo206 2 месяца назад

Both rocker arm will move when you tdc . Make sure your cam was set tdc

@ASSingh-uq4ic Год назад

A good information.

@-DIYPRO- Год назад

Thanks!

@joshmatthew4125 3 года назад

Thanks

@-DIYPRO- 3 года назад

No problem

@doughball1026 10 месяцев назад

Do you know valve settings for Generac power washer model 65950 with a 196cc engine.

@koreywilliams4570 3 года назад

Some day I might buy a 2nd engine and take apart the one I have now and learn how it works.

@maxortega8073 2 года назад

yeah buy that second engine first i took apart my go-kart engine thinking "how hard can it be" its been 2 years and i havnt got it to drive since then

@cwill4920 Год назад

@@maxortega8073 where are you located? Send it to me n I'll get it going for you.

@maxortega8073 Год назад

@@cwill4920 oh lmao I’m in AZ thanks for the offer but after 1 year of auto shop I was given enough knowledge about engines and I rebuilt it finally thanks tho!

@cwill4920 Год назад

@@maxortega8073 ok I do custom work too

@maxortega8073 Год назад

@@cwill4920 do you work on cars at all like engine rebuilds?

@sitiaisyah-wz9sk 26 дней назад

Mksh sobat atas berbagi ilmunya mga jdi ldng amal

@normanedwards7220 5 месяцев назад

Always check that the piston is at top dead centre ( TDC ) on it's compression stroke , ....( there are two TDC's , one is compression stroke the other is exhaust stroke , ) if you are not sure , get someone who knows about four stroke engines to do it for you ,

@owolabiola8824 4 года назад

Nice

@-DIYPRO- 3 года назад

Very nice

@alstonasby5883 2 года назад

So my zero turn which has a predator 700 motor on it had been hard to start and then backfiring a lot recently and I pressure washed it one day and now it won’t start and I took the valve cover off and the cam rockers or valve rockers are super loose and it would run for like 10 seconds and then cut off and I’m not sure what my problem is with the right cylinder which is my problem having 40 psi of compression in my left cylinder having 160 psi of compression

@-DIYPRO- 2 года назад

Did you ever figure out the issue?

@peterG711 3 года назад

Put it in nicely... That's what she said.

@filzex8313 3 года назад

@josephquidlat5072 Год назад

Gooday! My Friend firstime subscriber, It's standard setting in all Gasoline & Disel Genset .15 for intake & .20 for Exhaust for Valve adjustment?

@-DIYPRO- Год назад

I would assume it depends on the brand and model.

@boris9331 Год назад

Different manufacturers have slightly different specs.

@TravisLassiter-gn5vz 10 месяцев назад

I've used this sprayer several times now on brick pavers, a wood deck, patio, and a driveway. ru-vid.comUgkx43QMbQqu67IZadu9ou8Sg1BdrunMRNqX It has performed as expected on all surfaces. For larger areas like the decks and patios, I think I will be looking into a surface cleaner attachment to speed up the job, or at least make it a little easier. Hose and sprayer connections are tool-less, tight, and quick. I used the yellow nozzle on the concrete/brick surfaces, and the pressure was adequate for cleaning those surfaces.I am disappointed that these units are still being shipped with a nozzle storage holder that allows them to vibrate out of the holder way too easily and become lost, but I don't want to knock off a star for that reason. The functional part of the washer works very well, so I would recommend this product.

@-DIYPRO- 10 месяцев назад

Sure thing!

@bobbyrayparris6711 Год назад

If they are not right can that make it hard to crank or pressure on it even when no hoses are connected

@-DIYPRO- Год назад

No, you should still be able to crank it. Pressure may be slightly off, usually pressure is way off when you loose a ring or broken piston.

@MoroniGivens-jq9mi 3 месяца назад

so vavles loosen distance or get tighter age. Garage generator videos says tighten up age

@Benito-gu1ww 7 месяцев назад

My Honda clone engine manual says 0.10-0.15 for intake valve clearance and 0.15-0.20 on the exhaust

@MoroniGivens-jq9mi 3 месяца назад

directions for Champion Generators different. Wait one side go down adj other. Champion videos maybe decomp?

@bitaminv21 3 года назад

Does the 196cc hisun (honda clone) have the same top dead center markings on its crank as well?

@leslieseerattan4546 3 года назад

hii did you found out what was causing the knock i have an honda just like yours doing the same

@logertgogert3227 3 года назад

Lol it might be a rod knock. I would make sure your engine has a sufficient amount of oil, if not then you need to change the oil

@conner5611 3 года назад

@@logertgogert3227 changing the oil won't fix a rod knock or any engine damage

@lomi4267 2 года назад

What feeler gauge did you use for that engine

@-DIYPRO- 2 года назад

I've had them for awhile. I think they are just a cheap pair pick up at an auto parts store.

@frank2887 2 года назад

My engine turns off when taken off of the choke could the lash being offset be the problem ?

@-DIYPRO- 2 года назад

Sounds like a carburetor issue to me. Main jet is probably clogged.

@allenstap 2 года назад

Bad gas

@cashmoney4408 2 года назад

Can you do this without feeler gauges? If so how lmao, gotta predator 212 I've cleaned the carb and it won't start with even with hot sauce, guessing it might be this

@-DIYPRO- 2 года назад

Have you checked for spark? That is my go to after I've ruled out the carb.

@cashmoney4408 2 года назад

@@-DIYPRO- thanks, my oil is a gray color that means there's water right?

@princedaniel4941 Год назад

You make use of a flat razor blade the get the clearance required

@PAiN46k 4 года назад

What would be the valve lash set for 212cc predator engine non Hemi?

@-DIYPRO- 4 года назад

You'd have to look up that model online. I'm sure HF has the specs somewhere.

@ronbondvd 4 года назад

Valve clearance - Intake 0.004" to 0.006". Exuast 0.006" to 0.008"

@kevinisbell1867 4 года назад

burns thanks but I think your a little too late bro but we know your heart was in the right place.

@roster2423 3 года назад

@@ronbondvd what about for a predator 420cc

@filzex8313 3 года назад

@paullambert1485 2 года назад

Hey bud maybe you could help me out I have a predator engine I bought from harbor freight last winter and I started running it probably around April put the mud mud motor long shaft and it ran good didn't have any problems with it then after about having it out for five times I was driving I drive for about 15-20 minutes and all of a sudden the engine was like start to vibrate real loud like a crazy noise I can send you a video if you want let you listen to it but I thought it was a shaft but I took the shaft off and it's doing the same thing so maybe you can help me out I appreciate it thanks

@-DIYPRO- 2 года назад

Still doing it? Have you taken the cover off and checked in side?

@dougthomasmusic Год назад

Is it me or does it have the same sound it did at the beginning of the video. Jack is right you need top center with closed valves. Try it once again.

@-DIYPRO- Год назад

Not just you! The valve lash wasn't the issue.

@chucklesy 2 года назад

Are all 200cc lash clearance the same?

@-DIYPRO- 2 года назад

Within Hondas, yes they should be.

@jasoncarthew2279 Год назад

I changed my intake valve because it was leaking now my bike tappy loud when the bike has warmed up . What could it be

@-DIYPRO- Год назад

What do you mean by tappy loud?

@jasoncarthew2279 Год назад

@@-DIYPRO- just a tap defo not a knocking sound. When you drive you can't hear it but when at low revs you can hear it. Bike runs fine tho even with low compression lol

@clintsmith3408 Год назад

I have zero gap on the exhaust valve, no matter what stroke the motor is in. What's the issue?

@jonathanyoung2588 Год назад

Does the valve spring move when you rotate the cylinder? Maybe the valve is stuck

@clintsmith3408 Год назад

@@jonathanyoung2588 I figured it out. The valve keepers were wore smooth. Replaced and within 1.5 hours the next set were worn off. I'm guessing excess heat/wear from not getting oil for some reason.

@-DIYPRO- Год назад

Let us know when you find out the issue.

@clintsmith3408 Год назад

@@-DIYPRO- not sure of the cause of why the keepers are being worn down. The company is sending me a whole head assembly. Not sure if that's going to fix the rocker/valve springs if they aren't getting oil but we will see.

@dougthomasmusic Год назад

@@clintsmith3408 the piston rod lasher should be throwing oil up into the head to lubricant the valves. But if they are wearing out fast make sure the rocker gap is correct and not too tight. It doesn’t have to be off much to to the low side to cause excessive friction against the cam. ☺️

@paulmwega1814 Год назад

What makes a petrol water pump not to perform well in suctioning water

@jesbycollection9801 Год назад

Sir why my engine marine kenbo 7.5HP Can't down speed slow but in the fast speed there was no problem why please help me

@-DIYPRO- Год назад

Maybe someone else can pipe in but I'm not even sure what your issue is. What is down speed slow?

@regigilman2255 Год назад

It bothers me on why the exhaust is less open then the intake when exhaust is what I would rather have discharged most and still have a considerable valve seating both valves

@-DIYPRO- Год назад

I'm sure there is a lot of science that goes into that one.

@mariafrigo3465 Год назад

It’s not just valve clearance the shape of the cam lobe may hold the valve open longer

@alanhowarth2801 Год назад

Hi. The clearance is bigger because the valve and the stem are subject to the much higher temps of the exhaust gasses. Therefore apt to expand more over it's length. This is true for every internal combustion engine

@anthonyreddy2834 Год назад

You're lash is still loose! What you are hearing is rod knock or a stuck lifter.

@-DIYPRO- Год назад

Right on, thanks!

@g.p.cuangco9326 Год назад

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@-DIYPRO- Год назад

I was thinking the same thing!

@SuperJimbell 3 года назад

Doesn't sound fixed to me

@exploitallowed695 Год назад

Bro i got a 168FB preaty similar engine but i can t find my user manual and i can t find it on yt what should i do?

@-DIYPRO- Год назад

I guess you can always try the honda specs and see how it turns out!

@exploitallowed695 Год назад

@@-DIYPRO- kk i will try

@gmannubs6812 4 года назад

Just a suggestion. Get yourself a cordless driver. Saves a lot of hand work.

@gmannubs6812 3 года назад

@@OwenAnonymous WHY would you even want to.???🤔🙄🥴

@gmannubs6812 3 года назад

@@OwenAnonymous 🥴🙄🥴

@filzex8313 3 года назад

@paparhu2620 4 года назад

where did you buy that valve adjustment feeler

@-DIYPRO- 4 года назад

I think I just bought them online. They are called feeler gauges.

@PhillyXDoc 4 года назад

Go to autozone

@anonimoporsiempre6033 3 года назад

Any auto parts

@JimNobles-gv4ky 10 месяцев назад

3 yrs on my Champion, no valve adjustment. Think it died, no start, cleaned carb, checked coil.?????????

@user-tv5sp3gl3z 2 года назад

👍👍👍ok

@DeeRuss 3 года назад

Taking the governor out doesn’t make it run to hard it only effects throttle because all the governor does is hold back throttle it’s better to remove it for higher performance

@-DIYPRO- 3 года назад

Correct but who are the people that take governors out, those that want to go full throttle. Doing that constantly puts a lot more stress on the engine and somethings got to give.

@markharris4260 Год назад

The governor is there for a reason, to keep extreme rpm from damaging the engine ! The engine rpm is controlled by the governor to run within manufacturers recommend SAFE rpm range !

@TheReignharder 4 месяца назад

This is incorrect 1:15 - incorrect TDC chosen. (as per the instructions you show later). Swing it another 360 degrees to get to where both valves are closed.

@joshl3323 11 месяцев назад

Whats the name of that tool?

@-DIYPRO- 10 месяцев назад

Feeler gauges.

@fuckingbasterds 2 года назад

Can I ask you a question?

@-DIYPRO- 2 года назад

You already did! Sorry, bad dad joke!

@fuckingbasterds 2 года назад

Ok. I have a coleman 196 that I put an upgrade kit on with 18lb valve springs. It wont run, will only backfire and sputter. Any ideas? Jetting maybe valve spring adjustment?

@logansimmons6305 Год назад

@@fuckingbasterds sounds like exhaust lash is too tight. Combustion is still occurring in the cylinder when your exhaust valve is opened.

@fuckingbasterds Год назад

@@logansimmons6305 thank you!

@naiefelyemeni1986 2 года назад

i still hear the knock??

@-DIYPRO- 2 года назад

Yea I mentioned that at the end of the video. This did not fix the knock.

@abdulkabeerktakabeer5542 3 года назад

This diesel or petrol..????

@-DIYPRO- 3 года назад

Petrol?? you must not be from around here, haha! Yes it petrol, or regular gas.

@anonimoporsiempre6033 3 года назад

Gasoline 👍🏼

@toupsclassroomtoupsclassro9557 Год назад

it sounded the same???

@-DIYPRO- Год назад

It was the same, ended up being a different issue.

@fidelbaco6200 2 года назад

how about loncin 13hp sir if i did it to o.2 clearance it will run faster

@-DIYPRO- 2 года назад

No clue, let me know if you test it out!

@dominiciadicicco8935 3 года назад

I couldn't tell the difference in the sound.

@-DIYPRO- 3 года назад

Nope that didn't fix the problem. At the end of the video I took off the cover and found the tie rod was too loose.

@invisibilianone6288 2 года назад

@@-DIYPRO- ...tie rod?😶 I checked all the files of info, in my brainium,,,the ones that still work,,,lol All info refers to the connecting rod, ( that metal thingy,,,between the crankshaft and the piston)🎯😁☕

@invisibilianone6288 2 года назад

You can watch those guys in India and Pakistan,,, they can remanufacture anything in about 60minutes, or less...lol

@stephendaniellewis4632 Год назад

Steele Stills

@-DIYPRO- Год назад

Steal!

@xzbrend 3 года назад

*+*

@Seahorseequestrian Год назад

What feeler gauge is point two? WTF That little piece of knowledge is more important than the rest of it! Which feeler gauge is point one five?

@andresrivasmacias3145 3 года назад

Stay in school!

@craftsmancraftsman8329 4 года назад

A brand new one has a discoloration to a brother

@filzex8313 3 года назад

@jerrycannonjr.7492 4 года назад

A strip of metal from a soda can works perfect too.

@-DIYPRO- 4 года назад

Works perfect as a shim too.

@jerrycannonjr.7492 4 года назад

@@-DIYPRO- yes

@leyvalore722 3 года назад

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@filzex8313 3 года назад