SMASH 4 WAS BROKEN (Reaction) 

i made that wasuuuuuup

"For those who are unaware Smash 4 is a game" -Hbox, 2022

I love how the game just gives you duplicates of custom moves you already have, making the custom move collection process even longer. Great game design, guys.

I actually did collect all the smash 4 custom moves in the 3DS version of the game. Smash run was so incredibly addicting and I ended up getting a lot of the custom moves through that.

Now I wanna see Hbox reacting to “Melee is broken” 1 AND 2, I would love to see how much he laughs watching that 😈

Yeah that Mario up tilt combo made me feel like I was good for about 30 seconds...

14:15 "I was the villain" No dude. The absolutely brain-fucked organizers of those tournaments were. Allowing custom moves was on the organizers and they should be held accountable for being so stupid. I've learned from Pro players that there's no such thing as dignity or grace in tournaments. If there was a killswitch character, everyone except for hard loyalists like Void who stick with Sheik would play that killswitch character. It's on organizers to ban these sorts of situations from happening. The fact that they refused to ban Bayonetta AND took this long to figure out that Custom Moves were botched put a seriously bad look on event organizers at the time. It showed that they cared only for shitty drama and making people mad for views instead of balancing out their tournaments to keep them competitive and graceful.

That was painful to watch...

9:58 Agree, a lot of people complain about how good and easy Pyra is, but believe me, she's nowhere near as good as Bayonetta in smash 4

The "smash is broken" videos are incredible and really well made. And I would personnally choose to by the new mario striker game that's going to come out.

For real tho, custom friendlies on 3DS were the most fun I had playing this game. Mostly because Smash Run made collecting customs a lot easier

This might be a very long time coming, but what we did locally for the custom movesets was ME unlocking all custom moves in the 3DS which had a much much more fun way of unlocking them, make all the tournament valid sets in the EVO list and then transfer them all in one single go to every wii u during a tournament. It took me a while, but it saved the ass of 30 owners.

It's a shame custom moves were poorly implemented. I really enjoyed them, and would love to see a metagame where customs were conveniently accessible and balanced enough to not rip the game to shreds.

Smash 4 Lucario: I am OP, try me- *why do I hear boss music?* Smash 4 Bayonetta: Hello there Smash 4 may be broken, but we got cool stages like the Kalos Pokémon League and Wuhu Island because of it. So a small price to pay, for salvation

I didn't reakly know or think Smash 4 was broken, until I went back to watch old Mario combo videos (Mario Main) and dear god I understand why big characters had such a hard time with not just mario but in general. Saying Smash 4 walked to so Ultimate can run is the PERFECT statement lol. I still love every single smash game that has been made though so going back and playing modded smash 4 is nostalgia.

"Oh, Mac's recovery was awful in Smash 4." Well, it's indeed a bit better in Ultimate since he can now use side special and up special before needing to touch the stage, and down air gives him a slight boost and directional air dodges are a thing... He's still very much memeable off stage (unless you're facing Peanut or something).

"4 walked so Ultimate could run" is accurate. It had many things new to nintendo that they improved for Ultimate

I remember grinding out those custom moves and got every single one. I barely used them but I loved having them. So many weird or goofy options and I thought it was so cool at the time that I could choose different moves just to play around with them. I didn't learn about the evil or toxic ones until right around ultimate came out and had hoped they might bring them back and balance them. They absolutely make the game even more broken and chaotic but that was where I had my fun with my buddies.

Man, that little mac footstool combo brought back memories. I loved Smash 4

I honestly can't wait to see you react to the rest of the series! Also regarding the giveaway, I'd probably preorder Kirby and the Forgotten Land, it looks REALLY good

Cant wait till HungryBox sees “Melee is broken” lmao. The jank is WILD 😭. Also, I’d personally buy that new Kirby game. Carby looks hilarious

Evo 2018 grand finals was one of the darkest storylines yet to this day.

The base distance that knocks back characters was so much bigger than in ultimate. Now anytime I see someone get star KO'd or hit the side blast zones, I'm thrown off by how early it happens.

the amount of nostalgia i got from this. While i did play a bit of brawl when it came out and loved it, I never owned the game myself. Smash 4 was the first smash game i bought and what got me into the tournament scene. It was a broken mess, but I loved every second of it. I guess it helped that everyone in my local scene was too proud to play bayo.

Keep going with this series Hungrybox! Watching them is pretty nostalgic lol.

Welcome to smash 4, the knockback was so slow you'd ask "how tf did that kill?"

8:48 STANDING HERE! I REALIZE!

One way they (kinda) redeemed custom moves was with Palutena in Ultimate, by making her moves work better in general and then bundling the best of her customs together. I think a LOT of characters could benefit from that tactic, ESPECIALLY GANONDORF (Canondorf beats Falcondorf any day, so bite me).

I love the “Smash [Game] is Broken series”. Also, I’d buy Kirby and the Forgotten Land with the eShop Card if I won. Looks super fun.

You know, he made a video for each smash exactly like these! All of them are great

He forgets that custom moves weren't supposed to be balanced, but a fun wild thing to experience

Footstool combos were dope and never a problem

That video brought back so many memories. Smash 4 was my first Smash game, and boy did I remember how broken that game was. I have very fond memories of killing at 50 with Lucario FSmash and Corrin Down B.

I thought it was a great game, but the lack of single player content and baynonetta really dragged the game down

14:45 there's something magical about Hbox laughing

It's crazy how floaty and slow you are in Smash 4 was and how much heavier and fast paced you feel in Ultimate. Am Subbed and I'd definitely buy Kirby: The Forgotten Lands

I'd definitely finally get the games me and brother have been wanting forever thank you hbox for making amazing content!

Bayonetta was a genuine menace online.

I used to know someone who played smash casually, whose favorite character was Bayonetta literally because he loved the series. He had no idea how broken she was even though he played her, he thought that her recovery was as bad as little mac's because he didn't know you could reset your recovery specials if you used them before the double jump. After I taught him that, suddenly it got a lot harder to defeat him.

Pacman out here with these old early 2000s flash video combos xD

I've actually collected all the custom specials and some of them are actually pretty fun. My two favorites are Bowser's Dash Claw (Side B) and Shiek's paralyzing needle (Neutral Special)

Hahaha, wait until he watches Brawl is Broken, every now and then I’ll just rewatch that video to see the horrors of 2007 MK

I wish they kept that brokenness with Miis and Custom moves in Smash Ultimate, that was probably one of the main reasons I got Smash on the 3ds, it was so fun for me and my brother to fight as ourselves.

I do hope custom moves make a return someday, as I really liked them casually haha. Also I would probably buy wii u virtual console games before they disappear. I do live in Europe tho haha.

Hope HBox watches all of Heeew's Smash is Broken videos. Really great higlights of each game's quirks and I'd love to get his take on them.

I love all these “smash is broken” videos. Also I would buy breath of the Wild or the new Kirby game with the eshop card

Just remember that 3ds sm4sh had an actually fun mode called smash run to grind custom moves

I'm actually kinda sad that custom moves weren't carried over to Ultimate. Screwing around with them is some of the best fun i think I've ever had in a smash game.

I'd definetely buy the new kirby game and mk8d DLC, pretty much get what was announced at the direct :D

Bayonetta was pure gold. The only matchup that was considered decent against her was pikachu but Esam is like the only one who uses that character 😂

Y'know what Hbox said resonated with me. After going through Smash 64's endless hitlag, Melee's Crazy Techs, Brawl's Meta Knight, and Smash 4's rage/Bayo craziness. Its good to see Ultimate being the most balanced game so far.

The "smash is broken" videos are incredible and really well made. And I would personally choose to by the new switch version of wii sports that's going to come out.

I would definetly buy the Skyward Sword remaster. Grew up playing that game, imo one of the better zeldas.

I ended up collecting all of the customs and yes it would be time consuming if smash wasn’t the only game I had so I never noticed how long it took

16:04 I already knew that if they added steve to smash his blocks and therefore area control would be BROKEN AS HELL, before he ever got in. Now he has elytra, place blocks midair, and MINECART TRAPPING?! He's an absolute MENACE and I'm all for it.

I got all the custom moves in Sm4sh by playing Smash Run, which was an excellent mode for 3DS.

I played on 3ds like an addict to get all customs moves Some were generic, OP, useless, pointless etc etc. The move changes arent too complicated. Its the stat modifiers that are mental With a balanced kit, you make youre character objectively better. Which is why in my ruleset, launch rate is heavily decreased to .5, 4 stock 8 minute match, and the only character banned is Lucario since he's the only character which at 150% rage + Aura + Stat boosts = Death per touch. I kinda like the customs moves tho, characters with bad options can completely change Gannon's Dropkick allows horizontal recovery, a nasty angle to launch Ganon's Sword covers alot more range, and busts shields on hit with the only downside being that he takes a bit longer to recover from it Dark Fists recovers and launches for a kill in the 60% And Flame Chain is just Sheer damage

As someone who never got into competitive smash until recently, this video was very informative. If I got the gift card I'd get the new Kirby game!

Yo love the content man. I would buy them smash dlc fighter passes because all those characters look so fun to play!

Totally agree with you HungryBox

I'd probably buy WarioWare: Get it Together! since I really liked WarioWare Gold & also love Wario as a character. :)

I think those easy grab combos made every new player feel like a master of their character. Thought we did something...

If I just happened to get any money, I would get the mario strikers game releasing later this year and hollow knight. Great videos Juan!!!

11:31 also watched that witch time bit on 0.5 speed 😂

Smash community: "Noooo, smash 4 is broken, so bad !!" Also smash community: "omg melee ❤" (I know why, this is a joke)

hbox: makes a section about Nintendo's greatest smash bros mistake also hbox: *puts wooly world music in the background of the exact same section*

That mid screen chat window was what was truly broken.

12:28 Me neither, I did collect them all, but none of my friends cared to play with them.

my favorite thing I did is smash 4 was to give Luigi 3 speedskater equipments and being able to tap run and he slides across the entire stage.

Hbox should react to all the videos in this series, they are really intersting

I would hope to get the new Kirby or Pokémon game, but even if not chosen thanks for all the content the past few years. Truly helped me get through the craziness. 🥂 salud. Keep up the hard work.

Heyo! With that slick eShop card I'd put down a preorder on "Advance Wars: 1+2: Re-Boot Camp" → the remaster is lookin' absolutely amazing & a complete blast from the past! Also, would purchase some fun little niche games such as "SkateBIRD" & "Attack of the Toy Tanks." (which is just like Tanks from Wii Play!)

*Fun fact: The main reason why Sm4sh is a slow game was to pair the speed of the game for the 3DS version*

I got every custom move. It took a lot of grinding tho. I liked the idea for sure tho and wish some had returned.

Having Ultimate as my first Smash game to play 3 years ago. I can honestly say i am greatful.

I had my original copy of smash 4 that I grinded on since the game came out. And I left it at a group home that I can't go back to bc I aged out

Fun fact, i used to main little mac in Smash4 in For Glory. My best character in that game by a landslide, only surpassed by ROB. You would not BELIEVE the amount of bayos that went for a combo and got f-smashed.

Good (crazy) times.. With the card I’d definitely buy the DLC for 3DS games I’ve yet to grab!

Imma enjoy that Tinder gold so much man

A 100% Speedrun of breath of the wild takes 18 hours. Finishing 124 sanctuaries, 35 main quests, 42 shrine quests, 166 side quests, 23 memories, 900 korok seeds, all towers, all locations, all shieka slate upgrades, all 40 Hinoxes, 40 Talus, 4 Moldugas, all horse bridles and saddles, completing the compendium, the Divine Trials, beat the DLC boss and fully upgrade all the unsellable armors take 18h39min. Collecting all 376 custom moves takes 3~4 days, which is 72~96h.

And now ultimate has the slingshot; the wavedash of ultimate, which could also allow some characters to literally wavedash. Getting some of that good tech and movement melee players have been wanting.

I kinda miss the customs, if done right to unlock and balance it really could add a lot of shakeups to more lower level tournament plays. I’d probably get some of the games on my wishlist, like Pokémon Let’s Go, or Phoenix Wright with the gift card if I won

i love that bayo is her own chapter :D

That video completely forgot about Sonic's shield cancel.

This was why Corrin and Lucario were my mains in Smash 4. Strongest counter and best mechanic lol

Melody of memories

8:28 "IS THAT TAS??" Tea got told that very often.

That pacman tech was for sure possible by humans, it was just hard as fuck to do. I only hit it one time in friendlies at my homie's house. I popped off so hard I jumped up and raised my fist, only to put it directly into a violently spinning ceiling fan.

hbox, there are 900 korok seeds scattered around BOTW's map. collecting all those will definitely take longer than the 376 custom moves, especially if you don't want to look up a guide for every single one.

I would agree with hbox that the custom moves are hard to get if there wasn’t a fast way of doing it. Just play all star on hard with the character you want to get moves for. Just make sure to pick up the bags that you get after winning matches

when he said change it out for a wii remote i was so confused and then i realized he was talking about the wii u version

What i loved about smash 4 and miss in ultimate was the alternativ character specials there were awesome and unique and i wish we could see the smash 4 dlc and ssbu newcomers get these alternate specials but thats all just my opinion

Ill be honest, I only really played smash 4 for customs and custom stats, and it was amazing. The amount of versatility the game had was insane where you could have 30+ different insane pikachu builds all meant to do different things well. Want a pikachu that one hit kills but also dies in one hit? Why not! Want an immortal Ike? Sure. Throw some passive hp regen, vampire hp regen, and shield heal. Want to make a sonic that spawns food and then gets triple healing from eating said food? No problem! I have never had more fun with a smash game than I did with smash 4 and I think this where a lot of pros forget that Smash Bros is a party game first and a competitive game second. The main point is for it to be fun and have versatility at parties. The biggest issue with customs was that you could get duplicate customs. If that were removed, I think the game would've been a 9.5/10 for me.

I just realized that fox as a different voice actor for every smash game!

5:43 to be fair if you do a fully charged fsmash raw and get countered it's your fault

Kirby def have you seen car kirby bruh amazing

I played Smash 4 a *ton*. I didn't have my own computer, I was working part-time, and most of the rest of my time was spent playing Smash 4 for several years. Single player modes, online, you name it. I didn't collect all of the custom moves for everyone, I don't think. I think I missed a few.

I'm glad Smas4 exists only because it had the most absolute banger of a theme

I would pick up a few indie gems I've had on my wishlist for a while now

Smash 4 Mario guide: 1.) hold up 2.) press A 3.) win