SMS Goeben - Guide 042 - Special (Human Voice)

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The SMS Goeben, the second Moltke class battlecruiser of the Imperial German Navy is today's ship.
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@Drachinifel 4 года назад

Pinned post for Q&A :)

@JYF921 4 года назад

This is a repeat of my question: How and why did the light cruiser ROCN Chongqing (formerly HMS Aurora) defect to the Chinese Communists on 2/25/1949?

@The_Laughing_Cavalier 4 года назад

Is the story about the Goeben and/or the Breslau sailing up to the Russian Embassy in Istanbul/Constantinople and serenading the ambassador with 'Deutschland Uber Alles' for an hour true? I remember a documentary years ago mentioned it.

@user-sn8zs9yn5c 4 года назад

Drydock question:The Kolberg Klasse of imperial German Kleiner Kreuzer were planed with turbine engines with roundabout 20000HP. On shakedown cruise 3 out of 4 ships performed about 30000+HP. How it did they manage to miscalculate the power by so far? And why was the poor "SMS Mainz", the only of its class without the "extra power" still the fastest of the four ships?

@Iturnright 4 года назад

In warship games (e.g., World of Warships) the concept of using a combination of belt and extended belt armor on armored warships to 'tank' incoming fire from fore or aft is very prevalent, to the point that fighting broadside on against an enemy battleship is considered an amateurish mistake. Is this an artifact of the unrealistic nature of the games (i.e. abnormally short engagement ranges, unrealistic damage models, lack of fleet strategy) or is there something to be said for the idea of 'angling your armor' in real life? I can think of a few examples, namely early ironclad battleships with ram bows where a 'bow tanking' approach would likely be used, and it does seem that even in the dreadnought era, presenting a smaller profile to the enemy could be advantageous. Even if not fully 'bow tanking', it seems that angling a ship's armor to the maximum degree possible while still allowing all guns to fire would be optimal. Was this sort of armor angling part of the fleet doctrine of the battleship era? Or were the difficulties of controlling a fleet simply too great to worry about such details? I realize deck penetration is also an issue, but it is an issue broadside on as well. Thanks!

@hs5312 4 года назад

Can you make video on how to use springsharp

@ShizukuSeiji 4 года назад

Such a tragedy that the West German government didn't want her as a museum. She would today be possibly the most significant warship in existence after Mikasa, Constitution and Victory. Mind you, 1963 wasn't a time when people were aware of the value of 20th century military history as an educational tool.

@estoyaqui5386 4 года назад

Actually, Germans were very interested but Turkey demanded way too much for the ship.

@WillHayes44 Год назад

What is it with people immediately inclined to preserve f*cking everything. Ship is scrapped, world continues to orbit our star and you didn't missed it right before you heard from this offer.

@vermas4654 Год назад

@@WillHayes44 because these things are interesting to visit.

@bificommander 4 года назад

Ensign: "MINE! MINE! MINE!" Captain: "Calm down, we'll get those Jerries soon enough." Ensign: "No sir, I mean I saw..." Captain: I said be quiet ensign, or... " Sea mine:"Ooh, a new friend."

@Wormhole798 4 года назад

Chief: What's the matter sailor, weak stomach? Sailor hanging over the rail: No Chief, I can throw it as far as anyone else!

@admiraltiberius1989 4 года назад

Did Drach really just use a Nemo clip as an example ?? We have achieved new levels of awesomeness. Absolutely fantastic

@joeblow9657 4 года назад

slight improvement that made Drach notably happier than under pre-treaty conditions

@JoshuaC923 4 года назад

Hahaha fantastic

@falloutghoul1 4 года назад

And everyone got to wear a Fez.

@sarjim4381 4 года назад

If it had been a few decades later, the Turks could have saved more money by issuing a painted KFC bucket instead of a fez.

@adamdubin1276 4 года назад

Because Fez's are cool.

@HMSFord 4 года назад

So yes, there are some happy endings to life after all.

@johnpiccolini3305 3 года назад

Fezzes are cool

@archiescriven6178 3 года назад

tommy cooper mode activated

@studentjohn35 Год назад

For a brief period, Yavuz had the unique distinction of being the only coal-fired ship with a NATO call sign.

@M3chUpN8y 4 года назад

MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE

@treeshakertucker5840 4 года назад

...... MINE

@ThomasTee 4 года назад

MEINS

@a2rgaming863 4 года назад

Mine mine mine. Mines are everywhere!

@davidvasquez08 3 года назад

Mine

@claypidgeon4807 4 года назад

“Everyone got to wear a fez.” **happy Eighth Doctor noises**

@MegaAliveli 4 года назад

After TCG Yavuz had been dismantled many pieces of equipment onboard that had historical importance and importance for naval tradition were moved to Naval Museum in Istanbul. Even the original Kaiserliche Marine Flag is still on display. There is a 3D Museum Tour on the website of the museum that can be used to access certain exhibition but i don't know if a site on a foreign language exists.

@samanli-tw3id 2 года назад

Actually, the Turkish govt wanted to sell the ship to Germany but Germans refused. Otherwise she would be a museum ship in Hamburg, the city where she was born.

@MaxCroat 5 месяцев назад

@@samanli-tw3id One of the great tragedies of naval history. People didn't appreciate this stuff as much back then, perhaps it would be a different story today. Also in the case of post-war Germany, they wanted to basically cut all ties with the nazi and imperial periods, so this may have played a significant role as well. I guess only the Americans were far-sighted enough to want to preserve a lot of their capital ships for their historical value. Even if you argue the 4 Iowa classes were preserved not for history but to be used again, the Americans still have another 4 battleships preserved aside from the Iowas, as well as carriers and other ships. Truly a shame this interesting ship, like many others, met its fate in a scrapyard.

@nebufabu 4 года назад

3:25 Sssshhh! Be wewy, wewy quiet! I'm hunting battlecwuisews!

@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513 3 года назад

Such a beautiful ship. It should have been turned into a museum

@roglar Год назад

When SMS Goeben and Breslau was in Turkish service with their German crews a part of the uniform was wearing read fez hats. I recently visited the maritime museum in Hamburg and they have one of them on display.

@1TruNub 4 года назад

"And everyone got to wear a fez so I guess there is some happy ending to live after all" You're Commentary is hilarious Keep up the good work!

@strixaluco7423 4 года назад

Its really sad that germany didnt buy the ship back. A ship from the first WW wouldn`t have created a political shitstorm and germany could also got themselfs a museum ship (even poland has one)

@lukum55 4 года назад

By the time she was scrapped Goeben was the last surviving warship to have served in the Imperial German Navy, her scrapping was truly tragic for us who care about the historical significance of such matters but considering the political situation regarding Germany and the countrys history its a really touchy subject for the Germans to display relics from the Imperial and Nazi eras

@user-sn8zs9yn5c 4 года назад

The Turks wanted too much money for it. Last known offer were 8.8 Million DM in 1955. The ship was not sold till the 70s. There were a private initiative in Germany to buy it back, but they couldn't get the money together. It's a shame.

@strixaluco7423 4 года назад

@@lukum55 As a german i must say the poeple here are acually kinda bored from this "touchy subject" and dont wanna hear it every time, but as long as there are some radicals, who say everything from this time period must me banished it will never end. For example one of my teachers around 5 years ago just treated me like a nazi, when i wore a T-Shirt with a picture of battleship Bismarck in school. Warships and tanks are just cool no matter who used them, we also dont burn down every tank museum which still has tanks from that period.

@lukum55 4 года назад

@@strixaluco7423 No harm in remembering the past, the only way a country moves forward is by remembering its history and learning from it

@wolfsoldner9029 4 года назад

@@lukum55 But in our case it is always used as a chain to hold us back.

@georgedistel1203 4 года назад

That was unfortunate that West Germany didn't take them up on that. I'm sure it would have made a great museum ship.

@lexmaximaguy8788 4 года назад

This is the one ship that should have been saved from the scrap yard..

@bkjeong4302 4 года назад

Agreed. IMO far less deserving of her fate than Warspite.

@nedimar5696 4 года назад

Instead we got Lütjens 🤮

@nedimar5696 4 года назад

* a Lütjens.

@klobiforpresident2254 4 года назад

If I could save any one ship it'd have been Warspite, to be honest.

@Easy-Eight 4 года назад

@@klobiforpresident2254 , toss up between Warspite & Enterprise.

@AP-qs2gx 4 года назад

One thing I would add is that Goben also brought Ataturk's dead body from Istanbul to Izmit in 1938 before the body was transferred to Ankara Anitkabir final tomb.

@lawrencelewis8105 4 года назад

I have a 1/250th scale model of the Goeben/Yavuz- it's a paper model from the JSC company of Poland- they make a lot of dreadnought-era warship models, both Allied and German. I also have the Koenig, Derfflinger, Seydlitz and I have yet to build the HMS Lion. They are very nice models and more involving than plastic.

@vikkimcdonough6153 Год назад

Rest in peace, SMS Goeben. You had a good run.

@adamdubin1276 4 года назад

The crews started to wear fez's because fez's are cool.

@horatiuscocles3399 4 года назад

But just, when you're Eleven ;-)

@gordonbloe6959 Год назад

The uncle of my grandpa (or grandma? I actually dont know anymore) was on the sms goeben. He had to walk from Turkey back to Germany and bought a Turkish cup and plate which we still have today.

@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X 4 года назад

I wish we (Germany) bought back this ship when we had the chance!

@artunkansu4461 4 года назад

I wish, we (Republic of Turkey) had kept it as a museum since she was one and only battlecruiser of our country.

@merafirewing6591 3 года назад

@@artunkansu4461 THAT'S OUR BATTLECRUISER NOT YOURS!!

@BycRaw 3 года назад

@@merafirewing6591 You dont understand.

@V-V1875-h 3 года назад

A real shame man, what was wrong with them

@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X 3 года назад

@@V-V1875-h No regard for heritage. Still not as bad as the British government after WWII...

@vespelian5769 4 года назад

One of the great chess moves in history. One doomed capital exchanged for an entire empire. A good opening gambit by any standards.

@neniAAinen 4 года назад

considering that blockade of the straits, in the end, was a part of reasons which doomed Russian empire - you can say, two empires, actually. On top of that - with Russian surrender, Germany has managed to get one of the Russian battleships there for herself(another one was scuttled). So, by the end of the Great war, even this deal was technically compensated with a more powerful vessel under german naval sign.

@darwindemartelaere3195 2 года назад

Love the seagull and pelican animated comedy, hilariously accurate. 👍👍

@komitadjie 3 года назад

Met the USS Missouri... For a moment there I thought we were going to see another "... You have got to be kidding me" engagement. xD

@Yui_187 4 года назад

The fact that they asked for it to be a museum ship yet west germany declined and was eventually scrapped made me sad

@KyriosMirage Год назад

My first pet was a gerbil named Yavuz, after this ship!

@surly60 2 года назад

‘The guns of August’ brought me to your channel

@Digmen1 4 года назад

There were two or three really beautiful photos of her. Thanks

@randomlyentertaining8287 4 года назад

Germany - Refusing to preserve/scrapping history, one piece at a time.

@frederikhein4195 Год назад

As a german, I really wish the ship would have been preserved. It would have been the only major historic german warship I know of and one of just very few old warships in Germany itself.

@bigblue6917 4 года назад

I have often said timing is everything. If they had met a couple of hour later or war had been declared sooner the Goeben's history would have been much shorter.

@jamesnelson6980 4 месяца назад

Excellent videos of the German Navy from WW 1. I have in my ship collection a metal cast replica of the S.M.S. EMDEN, given to me by my German grandfather, probably dating back to WW1. This casting has always kept me interested in the Kaisers Navy. Please keep up the great videos of all the capital ships of the dreadnought era, and greetings from the U.S.A.

@danieltaylor5231 4 года назад

The crew got Fez's but did they get 12 jammy dodgers and pot of coffee?

@p51cMustangFUYTGIVEMEBACK 4 года назад

god dammit drachi the milk shot out of my nose on the nemo part... you youtube histrorians have a good sense of humor! like tge chieftain or potential histrory

@stuartwald2395 4 года назад

There is a good alternative-history short story, "Tradition", where is its Admiral Cradock (who died at Coronel in the South Atlantic) in command of Troubridge's cruisers and destroyers, and he does a Nelson, ignores his orders and pins the German ships (Goeben and Breslau) against the Greek coast, killing them both at the cost of most of his command.

@user-eo8uv9yl2p 4 года назад

Kredok did not attack, as did Traubij. The British only wanted to drive the Germans into the Black Sea to disrupt the Russian Bosphorus operation

@Libluini 2 года назад

That's a bit backwards, Cradock attacked at Coronel (and died), because of Troubrdige not attacking and causing a huge scandal, because a lot of people around the time thought he should have interpreted his orders into allowing him an assault on the superior Göben. Cradock remembered that later and to prevent his career being torpedoed by another "cowardice"-scandal, he directly attacked the German force in front of him and died. Chances are however, that Troubridge was right to avoid assaulting Göben and Breslau, as the Göben outranged his cruisers, was possible even faster and his destroyers wouldn't have been able to do anything besides drawing shells away from bigger ships. Troubridge attacking Göben could have very well ended with his force wiped out, so staying away was the smarter move, imho.

@Stripedbottom 3 года назад

"Everyone got to wear a fez" I was born almost 100 years too late :'(

@anicorp4952 Год назад

Lol. I love drachs sense of humor.

@Scarheart76 4 года назад

MINE old chap MINE old chap MINE old chap MINE old chap MINE old chap MINE old chap One a side note, now I want a fez...

@X_0_0_2 2 года назад

5:05 colorized footage of the bismarck

@JYF921 4 года назад

Repeating my suggestion for a review of light cruiser HMS Aurora/ROCN Chongqing.

@williamharvey8895 4 года назад

Drach, I'm not to sure if you should be a professor of naval history in Annapolis, or the British equivalent, or a stand up comedian. You seem to blend the two together awesomely.

@razorburn645 3 года назад

The British equivalent would be Britannia Naval College, Dartmouth I think.

@camrsr5463 4 года назад

Cool that she got to meet the Missouri. I bet those gals traded some good stories.

@bkjeong4302 4 года назад

Given that Missouri never did much, probably not. The Iowas in general have a poor combat record compared to their capabilities, due to being battleships built in the carrier age. (Yes I know they did AA and shore bombardment work, but they were never designed around these roles, don't have any particularly outstanding contributions in these areas, and were cost-inefficient at these tasks)

@camrsr5463 4 года назад

the Goeben knows the Missouri didn't do much. The Goeben is just being a polite old lady. lol

@bkjeong4302 4 года назад

@@camrsr5463 LMAO

@bkjeong4302 4 года назад

There are very few big-gun capital ships that actually made a major contribution in a war. This is one of them.

@SimonWallwork 7 месяцев назад

The Ship, that changed the World.

@TheKurtkapan34 4 года назад

Today, one of her propellers is in front of Gölcük Naval Base in Turkey like the photo you showed and her main mast is in front of the Heybeliada Naval High School upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Heybeli_deniz_lisesi.JPG

@craighagenbruch3800 4 года назад

indomitable, indefatigable, inflexible i wonder if the brits had the unsinkable?

@fg3893 4 года назад

No, but they had the Invincible, which sunk at Jutland

@Zaaphod 4 года назад

They did, but it struck an Iceberg in 1912. After that, they were a bit more conservative with the superlatives. *he said, furiously sweeping Invincible under the carpet*

@craighagenbruch3800 4 года назад

hate to see the persons face who xamw up with invincible only to find out that ship sank hahahahahaha

@davidmoore1253 4 года назад

@@craighagenbruch3800 Invincible is a traditional name for British capital ships. There have been 7 ships of the name in the Royal Navy, the first a 74-gun ship of the line captured from the French in 1747, and the last a small aircraft carrier which was one of the key units in the Falklands War.

@jamesricker3997 4 года назад

@@fg3893 all 3 were sunk at Jutland. None of their ships lived up to their names

@ralphkerr6809 2 года назад

1:50 you have no idea how much i replayed that clip

@jonrolfson1686 4 года назад

Fez-tivities begin on 16 August 1914 as Goeben is renamed Yavuz Sultan Selim.

@PhantomLover007 4 года назад

Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine. Which mine? Underwater mine 🤣🤣

@beaney56 3 года назад

I bluddy love this channel!!!!!

@cyrillagvanec9151 2 месяца назад

Very fine observation

@patrickwhaley4111 2 года назад

Absolutely excellent funny as 🤣🤣🤣

@lawrencelewis2592 2 года назад

I have a nice 1/250 scale card model of the Goeben. I've read that there were efforts right up to about 1970 to bring her back to Germany but it didn't happen.

@ashn1729 4 года назад

They escaped the pursuing British and were feeling very FEZtive

@barrydysert2974 3 года назад

You say Fez and the crossword/Dutch puzzle wants Tarbush and vice-versa!:-) You bring this alive for me. Thanks D 🖖

@sarjim4381 4 года назад

LOL. The Goeben was the same as the world's fastest pelican. :-) I can't imagine being the engineering officer and crew responsible for maintaining and deploying those torpedo nets lining the hull.

@majorduckboi 3 года назад

Very sad that this ship is not go to a museum

@ricksadler797 4 года назад

Good video thank you

@merafirewing6591 3 года назад

*laughs so hard at the clip*

@nate9253 4 года назад

Brilliant!!!!

@HD-np7eb 2 месяца назад

Effect of Yavuz was important for Turkish people because she came after loses against Greek Averof and British game for Eril and Agincourt. She become pride of navy. Also Midilli was well known in Blacksea cost people because of conwoy, hit and run against entire Russian Blacksea fleet

@goldeaglekroll1596 4 года назад

Good use of movie, to get your point a crossed.

@Grimmwoldds 4 года назад

Tegetthoff class battleship Displacement: 20k tons. Length: 152m Beam: 27.9m Draft: 8.7m Armament: Bow, for ramming. And some guns, but they're just to let people know "Hey, this is a warship".

@TheKingofbrooklin 4 года назад

Some guns ? Four triple turrets were a lot.

@Grimmwoldds 4 года назад

@@TheKingofbrooklin Tegetthoff.

@TheKingofbrooklin 4 года назад

@@Grimmwoldds Yes as I said. The Austria-Hungarian dreadnoughts with 12 x 12inch. guns.

@Grimmwoldds 4 года назад

@@TheKingofbrooklin r/woosh

@benokanruzgar8863 7 месяцев назад

If Noa's Ark was the World's most important ship, the 🇹🇷 Yavuz Selim, is the second most important! ⚓ She is always missed and never be forgotten.

@MrDmitriRavenoff 4 года назад

A good ship outlasting the regime that built her. Nice.

@jameshope7933 3 года назад

When I saw Elmer Fudd, I knew how this hunt was gonna go 😂

@Wulable 4 года назад

Gotta love those great war memes.

@zombiereaper4207 4 года назад

4:56 LOL 😂

@sunsetsandboats2983 4 года назад

Very good and funny graphics

@rlosable 4 года назад

Didn't know the Turks offered to sell her to West Germany. Would have been an awesome museum ship, though buying her would have been an act of political suicide in the 1950s and likey would have been viewed suspiciously by all neighbours!

@klobiforpresident2254 4 года назад

They did offer a substantial amount of money in 1955. Turkey just wanted more.

@TheNord06 3 года назад

turkey was trying to buy three us light cruisers to replace her

@Easy-Eight 4 года назад

After the 1989 unification of West & East Germany the Goeben would have been purchased & restored as a museum piece, the '70s were still a little too close to the '40s. Germany is scrambling around trying to find some relics of WWI & WWII; less for military glories than as tourist attractions. Germany is seriously thinking of funding the recovery of the WWI submarine UC-97 that's at the bottom of Lake Michigan, scuttled somewhat close to Chicago. It's in remarkedly good condition because of the very cold fresh water. Legally the sub is property of the USN but if the Germans recovered the submarine it would be "loaned" to that nation for upkeep. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SM_UC-97

@danibelu6306 3 года назад

"A little to close" so you are telling me 1970 was a little to close to 1940 , that's a 30 year gap , 30 *YEAR GAP* , HOW IS THAT TO LITTLE CLOSE , 1950 WAS WAY CLOSER THAN 1970 , ACTUALLY 1949 WAS THE CLOSEST YEAR TO 1940 , BECAUSE WEST GERMANY WAS CREATED IN 1949-1951 SO CLEARLY , THE REFUZE WAS POINTLESS , I NEED TO REST NOW , I AM SO ANGRY , CASE CLOSED.

@joachimdeckart7848 3 года назад

The single most effektive battleship or warship in the World, and it dealt the British their greates defeat in the history.

@chriscampbell2327 4 года назад

I love your sarcastic humor it had me lmao!

@Arc_space_goat 4 года назад

3 this morning! Hell yeah

@bigblue6917 4 года назад

You're going to have to get some sleep you know. 😴👍

@steweygrrr 4 года назад

I am thoroughly unable to decide whether Drach has added googly eyes to the thumbnails or if that is an _outstanding_ case of parodolia. Either way: yay for fez free for all.

@JerrySeriatos 2 года назад

wonder if Goeben were in Jutland. One less British battlecruiser down maybe?

@harrylor66 4 года назад

9:22 min shows the Large Cruiser S.M.S. Blücher, BTW.

@Betrix5060 4 года назад

Large Cruiser? I thought she was an Armored Cruiser/Small Battlecruiser.

@TheKingofbrooklin 4 года назад

@@Betrix5060 The germans called them often large cruisers during that time before the terminology got internationalised.

@Betrix5060 4 года назад

@@TheKingofbrooklin Fair enough. And like Drach said, with a few relatively minor modifications she would've made a solid treaty era heavy cruiser.

@harrylor66 3 года назад

@@Betrix5060 The terms "battle cruiser, armored cruiser and battleship" are not officially in the imperial fleet. These ships were officially "large cruisers" and "ships of the line".

@Betrix5060 3 года назад

@@harrylor66 Give it to me in German. When it comes to "official terminology" it's generally not worth getting pedantic unless you are either using the organization's primary language, or they actually specified terminology for the foreign language in question. To my knowledge the latter wasn't done by the Kaiserliche Marine, or really anyone at the time, so I defer to the former.

@t.mitchell9135 4 года назад

“The Guns of August” brought me here

@richardwolf8024 9 месяцев назад

I have the computer naval war game Jutland, which includes two of Yavuz' actions vs the Russians. I play the Battle of Cape Sayrch, which has Yavuz and Midilli against five Russian predreadnought battleships. I have Midilli pull away, since it can't hurt the Russians. Yavuz vs all five of them gets interesting. Individually, Yavuz outguns any of them, but, there are five of them.

@TheKurtkapan34 4 года назад

Finally!

@gregoryvigneault1824 4 месяца назад

Ah damn if only the German government had bought her, she would be one of the coolest museum ships ever.

@vicmclaglen1631 4 года назад

No I'm never gonna do it without the fez on Oh no

@jlvfr 4 года назад

*_MINE MINE MINE MINE_* Genius! :D

@adamdubin1276 4 года назад

Would you mind adding the Russian Gagnut-class Battleships to the list?

@davidknowles2491 4 года назад

What is your opinion on the conspiracy theory involving the switching of Titanic's and Olympic's identities following the collision with HMS Hawke?

@scottmccrea1873 2 года назад

Why on Earth would they name a ship after Raglan?! That's like naming a ship after McClellan.

@wolfsoldner9029 4 года назад

Would have been interesting if East-Germany would have bought her back.

@timber_wulf5775 4 года назад

Der Alman'ach I don’t think the soviet union would have been very happy about that then

@wolfsoldner9029 4 года назад

@@timber_wulf5775 Why not ? The soviets even encouraged east germany to rebuild a Wehrmacht inspired military.

@cosminlesutan3574 4 года назад

@Drachinifel - What happened to you videos? The intro and Outro volume is like 3 times the value of the recording...

@harryjohnson9215 2 года назад

Sportier:Look sir british Captain:Flank speed now Sporter: BUT we are not at war sir Captain:just do it I got a bad feeling about this FRW HOURS LATER Messager: Sir important me Captain: what does it say? Messager: we are now at war with the British empire. Captain: oh... oh... OH... FASTEST WE NEED TO GET TO THE OTTOMANS NOW

@BobSmith-dk8nw 4 года назад

Well ... that was a somewhat odd video ... but then ... Goeben had a somewhat odd career ... The impression I got from Robert K. Massie's "Castles of Steel" www.amazon.com/Castles-Steel-Britain-Germany-Winning/dp/0345408780/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Castles+of+Steel&qid=1591367387&sr=8-1 was that it was in fact the Goeben that, by attacking Russia, got the Ottomans in the war. Massie also made a remark about the influence having a German Battle Cruiser sitting a few hundred yards from their Capital may have had on the Ottomans. He goes on to make the point that doing just that was the whole point of the Gallipolli Campaign. Which ... had the Army been willing to participate before the Turks new what they were going to do - might have worked ... .

@dougsmith7616 4 года назад

Aint gonna do it without the fez on. (Often quoted german seaman's conversation).

@larryjenkinson5525 4 года назад

Really enjoyed this video but any chance of shortening the intro - maybe just by a boom or two?

@flywheeldk 4 года назад

Fezzes are cool ....

@richardross3815 4 года назад

Lol....Nemo.....?........it works for me...lol

@raymondbenedict 4 года назад

8:55 any idea as to what possible designs were considered as an possible replacement for the Yavuz?

@TheNord06 4 года назад

I might dig through the online archives, but don’t get your hopes up

@TheNord06 4 года назад

unexpectedly, found buttloads of documents. 1927 refit agreement with saint nazaire shipping company, 1928 mine protection kit purchase from junkers, 1932 ammunition replenishment from bofors, names of persons whom tried to fix optical systems, pension for a guy whom injured in one of the refits, and more juicy stuff on naval balance issues with greece and soviet union. probably some gross specifications for the planned ship is here somewhere, sad news is i have to pay to reach full documents :(

@TheNord06 4 года назад

okay, finally found something. turkish state was focused on repairing and maintaining yavuz, even if there were talks about replacing it before the war, there is no official paper trail. however, in 1948 during whole marshall plan stuff, turkish navy requested two -clevelands- fargo-class light cruisers that were finished in 1945 and five additional warships, possibly destroyers, for defence against soviet union. this request denied on the grounds that turkish navy didn't have sufficient manpower to man this kind of force. why fargo class? because they toured middle east in 1946 and visited turkey too. however all this is based on a chicago tribune news article and there are no official requests that i can find. news may be based on two things, first fargo class was useless after the war which ended up decommissioned in 1950, and US (or press) was trying to find something to do with them or turkey was snooping around for the ships unofficially and newspaper heard about it. story ended with fletchers.

@Charliecomet82 2 года назад

Turks: "Thank you, Winston!"

@testogel85 4 года назад

Question: What are those diagonally running bar things along the side of the hull (e.g. the image around 1:42 in this video) that WW1 era ships frequently seem to have?

@testogel85 4 года назад

@Raymond Leone I see! Thanks!