Snowmobile button clutch trick that you should know

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Rick goes through a button clutch and explains how to take apart a snowmobile clutch and replace the spring without using a clutch tool. He explains spring tension and how the helix comes on and off the clutch. Roller clutches have taken over but there's still lots of people trying to resurrect older snowmobiles that have button clutches.
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@EricFB 7 месяцев назад

Good stuff here. I'm working on my own '94 Indy 440 that's as crusty as you can imagine. Just the tutorial I was looking for!

@clem95627 Год назад

I've got an old 1986 Polaris Indy 400 that im trying to resurrect. This is very helpful. Thanks.

@cassidyhruby7211 2 года назад

This was a very helpful video I’ve struggled with many of these clutch but know I’ve got a good understanding of how they work

@yukonjon5964 Год назад

i used to do it the exact same way. then i found that a Vise-Grip C-clamp takes care of the twisting / holding part. use two hands to spin it with the spring and key way in place, push the helix down to the buttons, then clamp it. this stops it from springing back and keeps both hands free to put the circlip in place. still use the knee to hold it together the whole time. works great. if the back of the clutch has a windage plate, then you must clamp more to the outer part of the rim, so as to not damage the plate.

@jrusher19 Год назад

Thanks Rick! Im fixing up an old 98 xc and just going through clutches right now these are all new to me

@OilHist 2 года назад

I just took the secondary clutch apart on my 99 Indy 500 and cleaned, inspected, and lubed it. It was a little tougher than your video shows, but I have small hands. I made a makeshift jig that I clamped in the vise. Everything seems to work well now. Thank you for the great video!

@money_murda221 2 года назад

This was very helpful, I have never dug into one of these older secondaries. Much appreciated !

@Tubeagrutis 2 года назад

Thanks for this vid, and you're cleaning clutch vid! You've saved my sledding season and for that my kids, and I, are forever greatful! Love ALL your content! Keep it up

@canadaeast8358 2 года назад

Good video I worked a a lot of those clutches back in the day. Even tho I know what your doing I still like watching. Everything you said I was like. Yup lol

@ryanwillard3824 2 года назад

Awesome! I’ll definitely be trying the ground approach for reassembly next time!

@dillonmckay3569 2 года назад

Awesome to see another video. Keep it up. Much love from rural Nakusp

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

Thanks for watching D! Appreciate it bud.

@dillonmckay3569 2 года назад

Your very welcome

@SometimeIsNow 2 года назад

Great video !! Received my 4 place D9 clamp holder. Can’t wait to install it in the trailer. Thanks bud 🤙🏼 Think Snow❄️❄️

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

YEEEESSSSSSSS BUDDDDDY 🤙

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 2 года назад

one thing we used to do is marker on the helix face with new buttons, no spring but snap ring on and run it up and down at the tips of the helix like you were doing. if the buttons are rubbing 1/4 inch or whatever distance down from the tip then you machine where the snap ring goes. if they are going right to the very tip of the helix you can add a snap ring or two.

@scottwilson4079 2 года назад

Love your videos! Someday I will make it to Alberta or BC to try out mountain riding. I’m from central Ontario and we don’t have snow conditions like you guys do. Anyways I look forward to your next video Scott

@jacobvontish2581 2 года назад

I'm really enjoying your videos!!! I'm self teaching myself on a few old 1990 prowlers and your videos are very helpful and entertaining!!

@alfredocarpaneto5976 Год назад

When I cleaned everything it seemed like there was once a thing coating of grease or some kind of lubricant that dried up over time, when I clean the assembly would it be wise to put a light coating of grease on the bushings the helix rides on and the shaft etc ? Well, I did and it seemed to let everything move easier and smoother so I just sent with it but kept it very light to prevent buildup. Like the videos and you have helped me sort out a few things on some older sleds. Thanks man.

@greatalaska6429 2 года назад

Great vid, all kinds of good information. Always enjoy your uploads.

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

Appreciate it bud! Thanks for watching.

@jimmoravec1326 2 года назад

Your a pretty cool dude I get a kick out of you 👍

@ogiegloa Год назад

Your videos are awesome! They have helped me a lot. I have an old Yamaha venture GT that I’ve owned for the last 10 years. Great machine. I’ve never done anything to the clutches. When the machine warms up I get a ton of rattling which I thought may be coming from the engine but after watching your video I think I’m going to tackle the primary clutch. I also have no high end performance any more. (Changed plugs, fuel lines and cleaned the carbs ) Question is do you have a video showing how to rebuild the clutch? Also I heard you mentioned rec supply - I’m in Saskatoon and those guys are great!

@DIGIT9 Год назад

Dont know much about the Yamy's but almost ALL clutchs work the same , have the same style of components that wear out ! Most of the difference is in the pullers ! Those guys at Rec Supply should be able to help you out ?

@tomascharles5080 2 года назад

Great vid.

@ilikeyellow22 2 года назад

Your video are mint bud!!!!

@grgsrvc 2 года назад

Why would you install the spring in the other holes? How does that change the clutch characteristics

@shagsmcshrivels 2 года назад

I second this

@Mogachaffe 2 года назад

Changes the tension. Tighter or looser depending on which hole you go.

@shagsmcshrivels 2 года назад

@@Mogachaffe yah, I got that much. As grgsrvc asked, what clutching characteristics are altered when adding more or less preload.

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

Tighter the spring , keeps it in a lower gear , looser the spring is opposite ! Tighter holes are generally used for a wore or different spec spring !

@Metcalferacing_29 Год назад

The motor I have is in a race car. That’s why I was asking.

@evanhurtig708 2 года назад

That was a good video. Not a lot out there on older stuff. I have a 86 Indy 400. Any videos on that era of snowmobile. Looking to adjust the belt deflection after I change out the belt. Thanks again.

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

We have one or two of those vids on our channel

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

The vid that I did on my triple would work for you !

@evanhurtig708 2 года назад

Perfect thank. I have seen that one will have an other look at it. Thanks for the reply

@MNFarming2023 6 месяцев назад

I've got a button clutch off an old polaris 488 that won't come apart any help is appreciated Thanks!

@dirtyfacegeorge9938 2 года назад

Great vid, I put them together the same way, what's the chances you have an HSP 38x you wanna part with, p-85?

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

I might have one , I’ll look in my stash , see what I got !

@victorhenry8941 9 месяцев назад

I’ve got a 1998 I believe arctic cat cougar that the track just stopped spinning would you know the cause

@ThomasKCushman Год назад

Hey thanks for the vid. You speak my language. Life long dirtbiker here and enough of a mechanic to have a lot of half done projects around.... I have a pair of Yamaha 1990 ovations. One of them is haveing issues keeping speed. I am fairly certain it is the belt or clutch. Engine has good compression has always sounded great. My question is this. How do I tell if I simply have a worn belt or in need of a clutch rebuild? I have the belt and another belt and both of them don't look overly worn but produce the same effect. How to know when it's one or the other on this age of a sled?

@DIGIT9 Год назад

Measure the length and the width of old belt , compare with new belt ! Also if the clutch springs have never been changed , its prob a good idea to clean clutchs and install new springs !

@ThomasKCushman Год назад

@@DIGIT9thanks for staying on top of a post you did years ago. That really helps

@joelaichner3025 Год назад

Buy a Venom Industries , Team Tied , it’s awesome

@96Duelfuel Год назад

Do you know what the default is on older Yamaha's (i.e. Phazer/Enticer)

@DIGIT9 Год назад

Default of what ?

@bhoss7133 2 года назад

Could you please explain what changes occur if/when you use the other holes ?

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

A tighter spring would keep it in a lower gear , engine would rev but not go as fast , used mainly for a wore spring or deeper lug track !

@bhoss7133 2 года назад

@@DIGIT9 thanks!

@leerjet18 2 года назад

If I remember correctly each hole stiffer on polaris adds about 150rpm to the shift rpm.

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

Ya something like that !

@yukonjon5964 Год назад

only reason to change from stock hole is if the spring is worn out. in some cases when the spring is so old it has gotten weaker, placing it one hole tighter can bring things back to closer to what it used to be. if the secondary is so weak it opens too much under a big load (wont backshift), it will need a new spring or a stronger spring. just changing the hole won't be enough.

@marcodm Год назад

My 88 citation belt is very low, how do i adjust higher to be level top of clutch?

@DIGIT9 Год назад

A new belt would help , if that dont work , then try taking a shim our of secondary !

@WyteOutAK Год назад

What kind of chips are those 😮

@alfredpoitras6017 Год назад

What will happen if you put the spring in a nother hole would it give it more peep or make it bog

@DIGIT9 Год назад

Its a short turm

@DIGIT9 Год назад

Sorry , its a short term fix but if you put it in another hole that makes the spring tighter , it will have a little more zip , but wont go as fast !

@terrynordquist9521 2 года назад

What are the set screws and nuts on the front of the clutch for

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

To adjust belt deflection !

@wyattsullivan5175 2 года назад

Can you explain helix wholes for the button clutches i know its deals with ingagement of the helix and tuning rpm shift along with back shift but I’d like your 2 cents to clear up mine lol

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

Exactly that ! A tighter spring holds CVT in a lower gear , revs higher , more power low , better back shifting , looser spring is opposite, poor back shifting , boggy , lower rpm !

@wyattsullivan5175 2 года назад

@@DIGIT9 That’s what I was hoping you would say haha I pulled a chowder head move and pulled the secondary apart and lost track of the helix whole position on my 600 triple so now it’s in the 4th whole looking at me from a shelf thanks Digit

@rayrg570 Год назад

What do you use to clean the inside where belt rides?

@DIGIT9 Год назад

Brakeclean with Scotchpad(red) , laquer thinner for final wipe !

@williamwood6393 2 года назад

how do you adjust belt deflection on button clutches

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

Some have a dial on outside shiv that pushes pins in or out to adjust deflection, but on older ones you need to take apart , add or remove shims to adjust !

@matthewkowalchuk 2 года назад

If you can’t get it at Rec supply, your basically screwed. Lucky I’m only an hour away

@gabrielwidehn3040 2 года назад

Hello sir,I have a question and its about my yamaha 1997 vmax xtc 600 it was really boggy then after i did a full throttle on it the motor stopped and after that it ran on 1 cylinder when it got hot. Then my grandpa poured some cleaning lub into the fuel tank and after that it ran on 2 cylinders. What was the problem,do I need to change fuel filters or was it some dirt in the system that got cleaned away?

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

Might have been froze up , try a little gasline antifreeze ? But new filters wouldnt hurt ! Should be done every couple yrs anyway !

@gabrielwidehn3040 2 года назад

@@DIGIT9 oh ok, but the problem was that it ran good then it slowly started to bog and eventually it started running on 1 cylinder from nowhere but might just have been some shit in the carbs because when the cleaning lube was in the machine it ran better

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

Thats possible too

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

Change fuel filters , one in tank especially !

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

Its usually a pickup screen , might be plugging ?

@dennisleardd4478 2 года назад

Question on the bushings in these clutches I have a 96 storm I replaced the bigger bushing but the smaller bushing can that one be replaced

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

On the face plate ?

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

Primary or Secondary ?

@dennisleardd4478 2 года назад

@@DIGIT9 yes I think so I put the bigger bushing in but when my clutch is apart there is a lot of wiggle on the main shaft on that bushing

@dennisleardd4478 2 года назад

Secondary

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

Ya it can be changed

@williamjesse8357 7 месяцев назад

I used to do an extra hole on my Polaris TX because makes it get out of the hole faster

@canadianboyee 2 года назад

So if I heard you right, default is hole number two?🤣

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

That is correct , they all came from factory in hole 2 , or should have ?

@Metcalferacing_29 Год назад

if i need to get a little more rpm out of my motor ill changing the spring hole in the helix help

@DIGIT9 Год назад

Yup , about 100 rpm per hole

@Metcalferacing_29 Год назад

@@DIGIT9 is there a way I can pm you. I have a couple questions. The motor I have ( Polaris 440 pro x) is in a race car.

@DIGIT9 Год назад

You can ask on here ! I'll answer best I can !

@Metcalferacing_29 Год назад

@@DIGIT9 ok. I have a Polaris 440 Pro X. It’s a a race car. The peak RPM for these motors are 7800 I believe and I’ve been told. I’m running 51.5 clutch weights with a black and green clutch spring. I’m only getting 7400-7500. Don’t think I need to change my spring or change the hole that the spring goes in on the secondary?

@DIGIT9 Год назад

Whats it geared at ? There is way less resistance in a race car compared to a snowmobile ? Secondary needs to see some load !

@chadwilliams5677 Год назад

thats the pulley lol

@yupalsoyup7382 2 года назад

light beer, ahahahahaha

@paulmazzola398 Год назад

I always found it safer with the clutch compressing tool just incase the driven spring is on stiff side.

@32degreesretarded62 2 года назад

Whats your opinion on switching a stock Cat button clutch to a stock Cat roller clutch? Specifially a 96ZRT with a roller from a 99Tcat.

@DIGIT9 2 года назад

Rollers are always better !

@yukonjon5964 Год назад

if you do that you will most likely need to change the primary spring and/or weights to compensate for how much less drag the secondary will now have. the sled will bog otherwise.

@32degreesretarded62 Год назад

@@yukonjon5964 Im a perpetual tinkerer by nature. Sled has 2600 miles on it since I did the swap. Initially I did go with a softer spring and wasnt happy with where the revs were at when it "shifted". Put the T-Cat spring back in and its been GREAT ever since. Im running an aftermarket comet primary and that traditional ZRT bog is gone. Im quite happy with it. 38mm carbs, reeds, pod filters, stock exhaust, shaved heads and some polishing on the intake runners.