SO...Hazbin Hotel...I have thoughts 

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Personally, I feel like Alastor being a "father figure" to Charlie was probably just him being full of shit and it was all a ploy for him to get a rise out of Lucifer.

The actual hardest part of watching Hazbin Hotel is trying to watch it without spending 50k dollars on an animated music video.

As an SA survivor who was forced and threatened to stay silent, i have my criticism of the show in general. HOWEVER i did not find Angel Dust's episode to be cruel or insensitive. In fact i found it comforting... I really related to the self destructive tendancies in hopes of repulsing my abuser

12:55 I feel like Alastor is just cranking up the "dad" just piss off Lucifer. he doesn't care about Charlie like that, he just likes seeing the big boss of hell get pissed off at his antics.

Dude I’m loving the show, I just hate how it’s fast paced and only 8 episodes for one season

One thing I disagree with is that the father-daughter relationship between Alastor and Charlie shouldve been shown 12:50 because he was obviously LYING. He was manipulating her and lying to Lucifer to get a rise out of him, they do not have that kind of bond. He might care for Charlie (who knows, I doubt it personally) but I doubt he sees her as anything more than a co-worker.

I gotta say enjoying Hazbin Hotel has been SO MUCH EASIER without using twitter, I'd much rather a few negative youtube reviews over hundreds of people coming up with the dumbest things to hate the show for. There are some problems but god do some people reach so far for them.

Relating to Angel's SA, he's doing what some victims do that's really ignored or shamed for doing. There's nothing wrong in exploring that at all in a healthy manner. What he's doing unhealthy and yet that's a normal thing as well.

I'm an ex drug addict, ex alcoholic and current sex worker. I have been through HELL in this industry. In Poison and Angel Dust himself, I felt HEARD, I felt SEEN, I felt UNDERSTOOD. This was the first piece of media I have EVER seen be extremely critical of the adult film industry that doesn't also one two punch down at the people who are exploited by it but ONLY lambasts the exploiters and the industry itself. It's the only piece of media I've ever seen that doesn't just have a cartoonish sounding ruler thwap and a character with a black eye to insinuate abuse, that it doesn't hold it's punches and shows you how horrific this can truly be. People say an adult cartoon has to be more than swearing and sex jokes every 5 seconds, but the minute Hazbin does just that, suddenly it's everything that's wrong with the franchise. Angel isn't an uncommon queer adult story. Lots of us are sex workers, lots of us got in to hard drugs, lots of us were or are alcoholics. In Angel, we see a side of the queer community that many younger people on twitter don't want to acknowledge, because they're "bad queers" the ones who "give the LGBTQ+ community a bad reputation" but we're HERE. Our stories deserve to be told too. I feel that Angel's story is just that. A story of an abused queer sex worker with a reliance on drugs and alcohol to get by, and no safety rope to get back up. And not all of us make it! Some of us OD, some of us get hit "a little too hard" and yes, some of us die. That's reality, a gritty dark reality that is reflected so accurately yet respectfully in episode 4. I did need time after the abuse scene to calm down, it was all too familiar for me not to be upset, but... The emotional satisfaction of the payoff was too good to deny. Although the series has its pacing issues and feels like a compilation of good moments and INCREDIBLE songs, episode 4 is the stand out star of the bunch and currently stands as my favourite episode. Edit: 1 CNC isn't evil or a moral failing, and if you think it is, that's the Catholic guilt manifesting behind you. 2 I'm a whore now cus I like it, not cus I have to be. The moneys just a fun bonus. I do have a "real" job now! I work for soup kitchens and food banks in my town! 3 I've been clean n sober for about 5 years now, but some of yall are making me consider turning my AA token in for bottomless drinks, yall gotta take a chill pill it ain't that deep sometimes lmao

I think alot of the problems with the writing is mostly because Amazon didn't let viz know she was getting a season 2 until the show was well into production, causing her to write the season as crammed as possible to make sure her story gets told. Hopefully this will be fixed with season two.

I agree with almost all of your points but I’m like 99% sure that Alastor doesn’t actually think of Charlie as a daughter more so Alastor was just trying to get under Lucifer’s skin (which I found very funny)

Episode 4 is hard for me to watch because i relate to it so much as a victim. But personally, i hate seeing myself as a victim and it hurts to see. However i acknowledge how it can be "comforting" to other survivors

I just want to point out that Alastor is not actually taking on a paternal role for Charlie, it’s a facade to screw with Lucifer. Also, remember that Alastor loves being the most powerful demon in the room and is one of the few who knows that Lucifer can be KILLED (since he’s an angel)

Alastor going at it with Lucifer is like a guy with a squirt gun Fighting something with a nuke. Doesn’t mean he isn’t going to be as annoying as possible.

I hear a lot of people saying the story moves too fast because they release all of their emotions through songs, I’m glad you mentioned that that’s what a musical is. I always remember what my theatre teacher told me makes the best musicals: when the emotion becomes too strong for talking, you sing. When it becomes too strong for singing, you dance.

A friend of mine is SA survivor. She was pretty cool with episode 4. Said, it was quite relatable. And yes, song is a valid way of expression for hard topics.

The show is currently blowing me away. By no means perfect, but it's got so much heart and soul, which is important because that's what got it this far in the first place. Hopefully it does well enough to open a door for other online independent animations to be supported and financed.

Honestly, Hazbin Hotel should have been 12 episodes to tell its story. All the pacing issues clearly are due to the need of more episodes to help the emotional moments feel more earned.

The only thing wrong with this series is that it it's only 8 eps. It needed at least 12 to let the story cook and give some of the more interesting side-characters more than one scene to shine.

The pacing isn't the writers' fault. They were given an eight episode runtime and had to do the best with what they had.

I always say that Viv is AMAZING at making individual scenes but struggles at making the collective whole. Many of these moments are wonderfully done, but none of them feel earned. In general HH is rushed

12:45 I don't think Alastor was being genuine, he may swing Charlie around the song, but his eyes are on Lucifer most of the time, singling that he's doing this to spite Lucifer, not defend his place as her "father figure" or whatever. I do agree that the time flies by WAY too fast.

The most important line in episode four is right near the end. The whole "It's not an act! It's who I need to be!" Yes, "poison" is glamorized, but like, one, until the part at the end with his voice breaking, that's all "fake" Angel, of course he's glamming it up, but also, did they not listen to the lyrics? "What's the worst part of this hell? I can only blame myself. 'cause I know you're poison, you're feeding me poison, addicted to this feeling I can't help but swallow up your poison, I'm drowning in poison-" That's not "glamor", that's a cry for help. His abuser is also his employer, has powers that literally make him addictive, a thing he already struggles with, and literally owns his soul on top of all of it. Of course he tries to make it seem lighter, because when he stops to actually be real, the thoughts are crushing. He literally ends the song with "full of poison, I'm sick of the poison. Wish I had something to live for tomorrow." after getting a break to be "real" Angel.

Alastar being beholden to Lilith seems to be where things are pointing towards. Even in the pilot, he shows up to offer his services immediately after Charlie ends her phone message to her mom. The animosity towards Lucifer, the 7 years gone, Husk referencing someone having Alastar on a leash, etc.

I don't think Alastor really meant it when he said that Charlie was like a daughter to him, it looks like a lot of people are forgetting that Alastor is a complete psycopath and probably sociopath. He can't stand Lucifer because with him in the hotel Alastor is not the strongest person in the room anymore, so he tries to make Lucifer angry and weak by striking where it hurts most. Edit: Well it seens i was wrong? Or maybe right? I still don't understand what Alastor is doing in the slightest, it doesn't look like it has anything to do with Lilith, we will have to wait until season 2 to find out, but it was good to discusse with you all.

The pacing could be a little slower, with more than 8 episodes per season, but other than that, it's fantastic. I really love Angel Dust and Husk's arcs and the songs are incredible, especially "Loser, Baby" that is an absolute bop.

I agree with several points you bring up. The animation, the rags to riches on the success, the sensative subject matters. I especially agree with you on the pacing. In the span of about two episodes we do a time jump of five months in-universe for some reason. Maybe just to create tension. And now we only have two episodes left in the season to resolve a lot of issues...or just end on a cliffhanger. It just seems that we've created a new issue for streaming content: make as few episodes as possible to tell a full story, or make too many episodes with too many plotlines to keep track of.

For people thrown off by the pacing, I implore you to rewatch it all together in one sitting. I know that's a bit over 2 hours, but it works so much better. I don't know why, but broken up in episodes it feels really rushed, but on my second viewing as if it were a movie, it was actually really well paced. Also, probably rethinking it as more of a Broadway play animation instead of a streamed tv series. The music is where most of the story and development occurs. Which can be really jarring for people not used to broadway musicals.

Personally, as a victim of SA, I absolutely loved episode 4 and it’s portrayal of what Angel is going through. What I love even more is Husk’s perspective and understanding of Angel. If I had possessed that sort of perspective in high school, I probably would have coped with my trauma in better ways than what I did. I understand why some people might not resonate with that, but I think it’s amazing.

One of Alastor's VAs from the pilot explained that it wasn't for any union related reasons but just that Vivziepop always wanted a Broadway cast. With this show being a musical I can't blame her for picking up the opportunity to have it and as unfortunate as it is that's just show biz for them

I assume the reason its a fast season was to gauge the waters of its reception, and it blew them out of the water. I think Charlie's VA kinda alluded to the fact they are already back in the studio working on S2. As for the VA swap, and this is from one of the OG VA's, Viv wanted a Broadway cast for the full series, hence why you have people like Alex Brightman on board. Also had to do with wanting VA's that could do both their speaking roles and singing roles as opposed to having two different people for the same character. Charlie's OG VA was quoted as saying that the singing was really hard on her voice in the pilot. I'm hoping the last two episodes are edge of your seat and lead up to an exciting season 2.

I’m very excited for season 2, this season was very rushed only because Amazon only allowed Hazbin 8 episodes. They’re already recording season 2 right now so hopefully they were approved for longer or more episodes! Regardless of the time constraints and pacing, I already love Hazbin and the next season will only be better.

I love hazbin hotel, but the pacing is definitely distracting. But for me someone who has been waiting 5 years for this show, I’m determined to like it no matter what, but jeez I’m having so much fun watching it lately and talking about, regardless of its flaws

Two scenes in the show live rent free in my head is the “take that depression” scene and the scene Alastair drops and f bomb at Lucifer

re angel dust i think that's also a case of people not wanting to recognise that other people deal with trauma differently to them or that their own trauma can cloud their judgement. 'that doesn't resonate with me' is not the same as 'that doesn't resonate with me, and it's bad for me' (which is a valid trigger response but means that self-awareness must be present in any analysis) which is not the same as 'that doesn't resonate with me, so it's bad for everyone'. because it's always going to resonate with someone.

Episode 4 is a great example of "great art disturbs the comfortable and comforts the disturbed"

The OG cast has made a song called “Thank You and Goodnight”. Anyone who hasn’t should go check it out.

My main gripe with the show is the flash pacing. I know they only got eight episodes but I think Viv and the team should’ve split this season into two. A lot of plot points and locations (mainly heaven) get very little build up or development and it just hurts the quality of the show

8:09 In the Goodbye video sang by the OG cast, it was addressed that it was entirely Viv’s decision, and there most likely wasnt any involvement with A24, Bento, Or Amazon. Idk why she did it but just to let know

As a victim of SA and oversexualization of my image, Angeldust is such an important character for me, he rapresent me in such a way that i felt it was talking about me, and i think many victims can understand this, as this comment section shows. One of my friends say that it's funny that such an oversexual character git to be the image of SA, but i think that's exactly the point... He is perfect in his portrayal of SA and sex industry and everything. He is just perfect

Honestly, my biggest problem with the show is how fast the pacing is. I wish the show had 10-12 episodes or at least longer running time for each of the original 8, somewhere between 60-70 minutes like Netflix's One Piece or Blue Eyed Samurai. There needed to be more breathing room and to let the moments that are meant to make a deep impact be built up. As much as I like to fill in the blanks I would rather the series did the show/don't tell format so many other series I like did/do. Aside from that and maybe the slight tonal problem some of its jokes have I do like the show and appreciate what started out as an indie pilot come such a long way. Also, people REALLY need to stop staying mad that the OG cast for the pilot aren't voicing the characters. Sure, I want small name VAs to get more work but quit being mad at the new cast. They're doing a really good job so far.

I am Honestly disliking this 8 episode trend which has been going on, It truly makes me feel like the creator doesn't get enough time to explore and deepen their plot, OR they do deepen it but end up rushing through exposition and making the series hard to flow through, This is what happened with invincible, and I'm afraid it's happening to Hazbin hotel aswell, I don't understand why this has to be done, I know I know it's usually not the orginal creator's fault, the original creator is always forced by the bigger Streaming platform, But I feel like if Viv had released HH on RU-vid (just like hellova boss) it might've not gotten so much hate, and instead of making it 8 episodes, she could've made it a long Multiple season Show. I just feel like bigger Streaming platforms are just killing every show.

Alastor has a bit of lore covering who he was outside of hell. He was a serial killer who was also a radio dj in the early 1930s and was killed by a hunter in the woods around 1933. This is why he has the deer like imagery as well as a x on his forehead when he starts getting demonic and such.

>daddy issues, daddy issues, "Daddy doesn't respect me, daddy issues If Luci really is such a bad guy, why isn't the story about how Charlie was born to be weaponized against Heaven? Why isn't it made obvious that Charlie was designed from conception to be a proverbial catapult? And that begs the question, _who was the original ammo meant to be?_ But nah. Daddy issues, bruh.

Saber: simps for Loona Everyone: I see where this is going…

I actually like the designs, it’s what separates it from other adult animated shows.

also i totally agree with you about Masquerade. It was genuinely so well executed like I had been a bit worried about the portrayal of Angel Dust and his situation going in but they finessed it

Just something to point out, about the pacing and rushed episodes in this series. We live in a world where amazing, well loved shows get cancelled on a whim All. The. Time. I think this show may be an example of how that bullshit from companies is affecting the media that comes out of them. If I were to make a show right now, I would feel like I need to rush to get as much story out as possible, so that my original plot ideas don't get left untold by a sudden revoking of the green light. If I keep getting signed off for more seasons, awesome! I can expand on further ideas for the universe! But if I only get 1 or 2 seasons, then at least I got most if not all of the original planned story out before the rug is pulled out from under me. I would love to see a video on your thoughts on this, Saber. How the cancellation of great shows with little to no warning can (and is) shaping the way small creators who made it big make their shows.

Super glad we agree about the presentation of episode 4, people have talked about how the "Poison" scene is insensitive because it's portrayed over a music video. I don't see that POV at all as a survivor who finds meaning and escape in music. Music is one of the main ways that we as humans express ourselves, our problems, our feelings.

I feel like the writers rushed a lot to get this show out, that the show just seems kind of fast paced. We get stuff that are supposed to be cool secrets but they get revealed way too early. But no hate at all, i love the show so much amd its currently my biggest fixation

I don't know if this happened to Vivzie herself, or someone else she knows or it's something she's personally intrigued but I've noticed the recurring theme in her writing, in both Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss, about a daughter who has daddy issues with her flawed father who's trying while having no/absented mother to be involved in this issue. You also hit the nail on what I was thinking about episode 6. There's just so much going on to even process what we're witnessing. The "You don't know" music was suppose to be the shocking plot twist but there wasn't much build up to it. It all happened in one episode, even the reveal of Vaggie. I didn't even feel anything for Emily being fooled by Sera who seemed to be another villain in this. My hunch is that there could've been an episode all about Heaven that built up for this moment before Charlie and Vaggie visited but scrapped probably cause of time and budget. All in all, I think Hazbin Hotel is still a good show with some flaws in terms of writing. I enjoyed the cast of characters in this show more than Helluva Boss.

Jesus christ why does it seem like Hazbin Hotel is held to a much higher standard than any other animated show?

The pacing in Hazbin is a gripe for me too. It's really a shame streaming services will only give animated shows like 8-10 episodes of 20 minutes per season, so each show has so little time to explore the characters and world and feel like they need to speedrun through the lore in fear of getting cancelled. Can we go back to shows having around 20-30 episodes per season to fully explore their shows?

As an sa survivor- ep4 hit hard yeah, but it never came across as glamourizing. It showed how rough and scary it is, how it can change people and trap them.

16:01-16:14 I absolutely love how unsettling this close-up shot is, like right after this shot at 15:56, that's such a haunting face!!

Am I the only one that hates how Alastor’s character is treated? He looks like a mockery of himself. It’s like every time he’s on screen he’s desperate to remind everyone how scary and dangerous he is. He sounds exactly like a teenager with low self esteem constantly reminding others of the one and only big accomplishment they have managed. In the pilot it worked because of how fast paced it was and not much time to flesh out the characters (also he was not the one warning others about himself, it was other’s warning pol about him!!) But now him acting the same way every single episode makes it old and not scary. In the pilot he destroyed a whole ship by only moving his hand, but now in the show he transforms into a bigger “scarier” version of himself to deal with some sinners.

As an SA "survivor" (it's still ongoing and has been for almost 2 decades now....) I absolutely love episode 4, it made me cry so hard because YES, that is exactly how it feels when you can't escape and have to put on a facade and end up dissociating for survival constantly. ;^;

"Visually busy" is one aspect, but for me it's that the Hazbin palette is specifically constrained to red, yellow, white and black. Viv is prodigy when it comes to actually animating, but I have bad eyesight and Hazbin is completely inaccessible to me. I can't see/discern what's going on a lot of the time because everything is extremely complicated designs made up of only 4 colors, with very little use of things like values to help me see what I'm supposed to focus on.

as a SA survivor myself i actually enjoyed episode 4.. i also work in the industry (I'm a sw) and unfortunatlely i also fell into addiction. i can relate to angel dust and tbh i wish i had someone like husk in my life 🙈

I largely agree; really this could have used a 10 or 12 episode first season, so they could have paced things better. Especially episode 6 and Charlie's relationship with Alistor really could have used an extra episode each to bake. Also hard agree: of every episode were the same quality as episode 4, the show would be an unquestionable masterpiece

Why do people hate this show? It doesn't look that bad

"The problem is how tall and spindley they are" Shows Lucifer😂

Viv: Helluva Boss is about the boys, but Hazbin is gonna be about the girls! Hazbin: It's literally the Alastor and Angeldust show (obviously this is a hyperbolic joke but, yea it did make me laugh remembering her saying that after watching all the eps lol) Also, as an SA survivor, I will say what bothered me the most about episode 4 was the hypocrisy of immediately following it up with making a terrible, dated "joke" about Sir Pentious being r*ped. It was super shitty and totally undercut the message of the episode.

5:56 I studied animation for a little while and post production (editing) CAN make a little extra camera movement. But regularly for animation most of the camera angles and camera movements are planned while doing the storyboards (if you look into a lot of animation studios storyboards you can see most of them have little arrows and action frames so the animators know how the camera changes) also a lot of programs have the “camera” function so you can plan movement out as if you were on a 3D space. Buuut since spindle horse is a new studio, the most viable reason is that they are still figuring out camera movement (sorry for the rant)

Fun fact: The white portal sound effect in episode 5 is the same used for picking up turrets in the Portal franchise.

I would have never watched this show if I hadn't watched along with Saber. It's not my cup of tea. But as an SA survivor, episode 4 really drew me in, and now I find myself actually interested in where this series is going. And much of the music I must admit is a bop. To the "Angel Dusts" out there: You matter. You deserve to be valued, loved, and I wish you the best.

You are not wrong with the pacing. Imagine what the series would look like with 16 or 24 episodes! If they had the opportunity to tell the full story with twice or three times the episodes lol lol the series so far

I was nervous coming into this vid bc Hazbin is my current hyperfixation but I actually agree with a lot of the points! I do mainly agree with the pacing, however A24 and conversely Amazon only greenlit eight episodes so I can sort of understand why it's going so fast-the team is trying to fit in what they can in such a short amount of time. Now that season 2 has been greenlit and it has seen some pretty major success hopefully more episodes are in said season to fully cover the story. I agree with all your points on episode 4, the designs (to an extent, the coloring is my main concern as it's very over saturated), certain animation sequences, and other smaller things. I understand why the pilot VAs weren't casted again given it's a very Broadway-inspired musical series, although it would've been nice to hear them as some of the supporting/recurring characters. Despite its flaws and criticisms I'm so far quite pleased and am excited to see what comes of the series! (Also Vox is my wife and I want Velvette to step on me)

About the Alastor as a father figure thing, I don’t think Alastor actually thinks of himself as a father to Charlie. It seems like he’s just doing it to piss him off, but that’s just what I interpreted it as!

Honestly it’s really good so far in my opinion I hope y’all are also enjoying it.

I saw the pilot on the first day of 2022, and since then I've been diving into the creation and development of the series. Seeing where the characters originated from, to where they are now is both inspiring and magnificent to me. Also Alastor is the radio from the Brave Little Toaster, he shares a similar color palette and was Alastor's Headcanon speaking voice.

10:30 As a SA survivor I did not feel offended or felt like they were 'glamorizing SA'. Honestly I wished more shows and movies did take about that stuff, in an odd way it makes me feel better because I can relate with those characters and understand the pain they are going through. I feel like the people who did get offended by that episode doesn't understand what it's like to be a victim or is an abuser themselves and doesn't want the ugly truth be shown in media. At least that is what I think.

The main reason they recasted was because in the pilot, every VA had a separate person doing the singing for them, and for the main show they wanted people who could do voice and songs (it is a musical show, after all). Although apparently there was a bit of friction between the original cast and the show for this so maybe they could have gone about it in a better way.

I think the problem is the pacing is so whiplash fast because of the short season. They needed so much time for setup in season one that they had almost no time to devote to the main plot, hence why it abruptly goes from zero to nine hundred in a single episode and is racing directly for a brick wall to crash into at the end. When it comes to the sex work and sexual assault stuff, I'm with the rest of those in these comments talking about well we were heard. I was shocked by how well it showed things, and the way it handled the subject. It was handled extremely well, IMO.

Hey Saber. If you want to ref this in your full review video, in the Thank You and Goodnight vid that just came out from the original Hazbin VA's, one of the top comments from Alastor's original singing voice has a brief Q&A. One of the questions is about why the VAs switched and...Viv always wanted Broadway voices, was offered Broadway, and took it.

'No one's perfect, except for Luna' Never change Saber

As a survivor of SA I loved episode 4, it made me feel seen. Valentino is the carbon copy of one of my abusers- (except I wasn't rxped) Husk and Angel's relationship is very sweet and I like that the song Losers don't sugar coat Angel by saying "don't worry it's ok" but more Husk saying that he related to Angel and that he will be there to support him. 😭❤

I am a huge fan of this series, I am deeply entrenched However, I also agree with your critiques in the first half of the video. I am glad that someone else noticed and pointed out how all the cast has the same body type. I felt that a stockier frame would have suited Husker. It just seems a little weird that even though there are side characters with different body types, the main characters all sort of have the same or a very similar build approximately. It doesn't distract me too much but it's just one of those little things I wished were different in a perfect world.

Episode 4 really showed the importance of Harm Reduction. A lot of people cannot just over night change because a lot of problems are way more nuanced. As a CSA and Adult SA survivor, I really really loved that it showed that.

I do want to mention that one of the leading reason viv replaced the voice cast was to get people to sing the songs (and it paid off because holy hell there's not a single bad singing voice in this show)

Thank you so so much for addressing the angel dust backstory drama as well. Because as a SA survivor myself some of the opinions on it I saw drove me BONKERS. Im someone who normally cant watch SA scenes in general. And it does come from it, a lot of times, being more for entertainment value than actually exploring that awful side of humanity. Then a show comes out that really shows how toxic and awful it can be, showing it to be a relationship that has them drowinging in self deprication and sorrow....and say its GLORIFYING it...OOF. I feel it does an amazing job of not showing it or dramatizing it in a way thats distasteful. Its real and raw. It shows how awful it is even with the glitz and glamor and I felt that was the point. After what ive been through I was bawling in sympathy with Angel. "Wish I had something better to live for tomorrow..." Absolutely broke me. Those saying it glorifies it I feel really didnt *listen* or really comprehend the message being told.

*Spoiler alert* The single after life theory is kinda disproven after Sir Pentious spawns in heaven after getting absolutely annihilated

just watched the finale....ITS SO GOODD

"There's no heaven or hell, just one afterlife." I'm intrigued! This makes SO much sense, since I found it baffling that Charlie was just allowed to visit Heaven.

Again. My only complaint is the Pacing. You can blame Amazon for being a little impatient. But I get why it's difficult to like. Y'know the Adult language and Sexual jokes. Combined with a rather religious story is kind of weird. But it's by far one of the most creative shows ever. The designs of the Characters. The music OOH THE MUSIC. And it got so many big named actors as well. I'm so happy for Vivienne and her team. They deserve an award for simply getting this far

Hello 3 time SA survivor here when i first saw angel dust and when I understood what kind of character he would be in the music video "Addicted" I was a bit worried but then watching the series I more understand and relate to him I've done similar things in the past because I honestly thought it would help me forget the pain (I am not talking about being drugged I am referring to self destructive behaviors in general) and I love him he's a great character andni believe they did him really well

Nooooo! Not Doom Guy! Viv was so mad about those memes when the pilot came out! XD The edits were hilarious, I should find them again.

Deleting Twitter was the best decision of my life. I get to enjoy shows and form my own opinions because of it and I’m not bombarded by bad news every other hour.

I honestly think it’s about managing expectations. From the pilot most of us expected this to be an episodic show, where we meet new characters every episode and work through their problems one by one. With maybe a slow overarching narrative. Like early Steven universe or Adventure Time, but more adult themed. Instead this show is basically a TV broadway musical, with a largely plot focused structure as opposed to character focused episodes. I think I would have preferred a more episodic pace but I am trying to like this show for what it is and not what I wanted it to be.

The hardest part of watching this show is getting through a single scene without cringing myself into a coma 😬

That last statement about Heaven being a Circle of Hell aged like a banana taken out of the Fridge.

The show definitely needs more episodes for the seasons but i like it. I love the songs and characters.

Your theory of Hell & Heaven being one and the same is so interesting! It reminds me of the Astro Boy movie and how those in the floating island felt superior to the wasteful world beneath. Heaven can be seen in Hell’s sky, so I could totally see this!!

Alastor was clearly not portrayed as a father figure to Charlie and was simply mocking Lucifer. I'm always surprised people don't catch on that.

2:59 i just about died laughing when i saw that bit the first time

As an SA survivor what you described is one hundred percent correct. You said it perfectly, and while many SA victims are uncomfortable with it, some find comfort too (as i do).

I love how the major complaint of the show is that it's too fast paced and needs MORE episodes/ep length. I AGREE I WANT MORE HAZBIN TOO

12:55 (ish) Yeah, dude. They weren't showing you or telling you. Radio demon was needling Lucifer, his fatherly relationship with Charlie was made up from nothing.

5:40 The only time I felt like that was true was during the Overlord meeting. Like you can actually see/tell that all the participants are photoshopped into the background.