SO I FINALLY WATCHED “SALTBURN”…. | KennieJD 

unsettling freaks hell bent on breaking up families specifically

the killing of a sacred deer is peak breaking up families @@rachels.4159

I dont think he loves it its just what he's been typecast as. He said recently that he's trying to rebrand himself.

He's too hot to be super disturbing imo like I would've been Farleigh'd way sooner like of course the little twunk will have his way, don't be absurd

i only knew him from eternals 😮‍💨

agreed. seeing those warnings to oliver as a red-herring for his own fears of being removed from the subject of his obsession also explains why they prob didn't bother explaining it further - the warnings had already served their purpose

Yesssssss.

You summed this whole thing up so nicely and it all of it adds up coherently to where Oliver is now in the story. Him being an unreliable narrator makes the few hiccups I saw in the movie make more sense as to why they were there. (Like Felix being depicted by others as a person who plays with his toys, then discards them despite him not quite displaying those characters throughout the movie.)

Beautiful explanation

Great analysis. Spot on!

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Fr like I’d understand a poor person going to these lengths but sir you live comfortably with very little financial struggles if any. Sit down somewhere 😂

You are wrong in that it is actually the best worst thing

I gagged ngl

i literally yelled omg

This sentence will haunt me far more than the movie 😂

I literally yelled when she said that

thats exactly how I read it too... a freaky little compulsive liar and unreliable narrator. And a very narcissistic love. Oliver was so desperate to be in control of how he was seen by the people around him that I think he missed the genuine affection Felix had for him. As soon as he lost control of Felix's percerption of him he felt like there was no future for their relationship, since it wouldn't be the one he had authored. I (and other people I've seen) got the impression that Felix might have been willing to forgive him in the maze scene but Oliver didn't see that (or care?) because he had already made his plan. But yeah for me there is no doubt that he was "in love" with Felix given that he literally drank his bathwater and [redacted] his grave lol Idk it's a fascinating movie that I think can be interpreted a lot of ways, which is usually what makes for good art.

"It's hot" "yeah. So hot" he basically wanted to teach Felix how to give a proper Supreme ultra guawk guawk sloppy jaloppy mega deluxe and in this essay I wi

Imo that's why he waited for 15 years for Sir James to die. If his original plan was Saltburn, I feel like he wouldn't wait for something passive to happen almost 2 decades after. It kind of felt like he didn't get Felix, lost his fantasy, gave up, and then saw another opportunity bc he knew he was always able to manipulate Elspeth. Like as if he read about Sir James and got like triggered or something. It felt more like Oliver as the unreliable narrator really wants everyone to believe it's been his entire plan, even though it very possibly never was.

Yeah, agreed. It's either 'Oliver was obsessed with Felix, and that's why he went bonkers and tried to become Felix', or this movie was just written by a posh person who's scared of the Predatory Normals.

Yes, I completely agree.

I agree. These were my thoughts too

That part

agreed!! i think people should consider the fact that oliver was an unreliable narrator from the start and likely lied to elspeth at the end to make himself feel more in control and act like he planned it

I agree... He is obsessed with him but since he can't have him then he'll take whatever made him... Which is this bubble called Saltburn... Him being defensive and trying to explain why is him in denial of what he felt for his love by rationalising with his pride and intelligence...

I definitely felt like the saying “girls wanna be her and boys wanna be with her” definitely applies to Oliver’s feelings towards Felix. He wants to be apart of a higher status and Felix represent that in so many ways (his wealth, status, popularity). Whether status or Felix came first I’m still up in the air on.

100%

With the same progenitor of the anthem as well!

Ah yes, from the makers of the "20-year-old high school student", we have the "26-year-old college freshman". I've been waiting for this! Meanwhile, my first boyfriend in college looked like a boiled egg.

I thought they were in university still love the anthem

Yes, I knew the correct pronunciation of Viscount, and all the rankings. Dukes are of higher rank. "The five possible titles, ranked from highest to lowest, are: duke, marquess, earl, viscount, and baron for men; duchess, marchioness, countess, viscountess, and baroness for women."

Pay the Rent is a song by the very gay duo - The Pet Shop Boys.

was just thinking this 😭😭😭

Wait what? 😅 I don’t get it

​​@@to_ur_hearther two different series haha bad movies and a beat and good movies and glam or something like that 😅she didn't label it either of those hah

@@rammasksOhh, of course! Thanks

This is more of an “Alcohol and an Ass Movie”

LOLLL WE FINALLY HAVE A MIDDLE GROUND

Saltburn and a bobba 🥰

@@dw9524STOP

I'd say Meh Movies and a Mug, but I'm not sure if that applies to this movie 💀

saltburn is its Own Thing.

I did wonder if the staff was all kicked out when he took ownership

I heard that but I'm glad they didn't go with that ending because Saltburn is his at the end, he can just fire the staff and hire new people. Also he asked for an over easy egg and they served him an undercooked sunny side up egg. Not sure if they did it on purpose or it was a mistake

I love that original ending, it’s giving Mrs Danvers in Rebecca. Am I dumb for not understanding how owning a several million pound house makes you rich? Because unless he sells the house, or there’s a business attached to it I don’t understand how he’ll have enough money to own and maintain the house let alone pay staff etc. did he get an inheritance too? I feel like I missed a lot of details in this film.

@@asmileisspecial I know I thought it was a good one but I also enjoy spreading the gospel of Sophie Ellie Bekter lol I assume that not only was he given saltburn in her will but all of her assets and money

​​@@asmileisspecial Yes it is implied that he not only inherit saltburn but the families monies and assets Elspeh seemed to adopt Ollie as nostalgic time when her son daughter and everyone was together. Completely blind to predator in her midst

The visceral reaction I had when she said that 😂

this phrase scarred me more than anything in the movie

That sentence will literally forever haunt me. Idk if I'll be able to drink boba again 😭🤢

Yep, couldn't even focus on the rest of the video because that phrase just kept repeating in my head 😂

I'll never be the same after that combination of words, my whole body physically recoiled 😭😭

I think you've hit the nail on the head with this. That was the exact feeling I got with his relationship to Duncan. He despised how Duncan identified him as a class peer and was amused with his reaction to gentry wealth. So he needed to put Duncan down and place himself above him

i thought it's because he asked for fried over easy and got sunny side up? fried over easy means you flip the eggs so the egg white is fried but the yolk is slightly runny. sunny side up means it's never flipped so the top is completely runny. i read it as a moment of humiliation for oliver because he can never fit in no matter how hard he tries. it suggests that no one at the house orders their eggs that way or that the house staff doesn't respect him enough

@@trudelulu I think you’re right about the staff not respecting him and them making the wrong egg on purpose but I do think asking for eggs in a way where they’re runny and then claiming he can’t eat runny eggs is a power play, getting back at the staff for bringing him the wrong order. I don’t think he thought it out but was feeling humiliated because he didn’t know the “rules” at breakfast

You're so wrong!! He ordered an over easy egg and they gave him an undercooked sunny side up egg!

The eggs given were sunny side up, not over easy. I do think they’re symbolic of power for Oliver but moreso to showcase how he’ll never fully have the same generational power/wealth as the Cattons. I also draw this conclusion bc/ apparently, the movie was supposed to end with Oliver getting the same runny eggs served to him even though he now owns Saltburn and employs the staff. I’d speculate that, if given Oliver wasn’t lying, him ordering over-easy eggs, which are to a degree still runny, is demonstrative of how he’s had to cook his own eggs his whole life and therefore, doesn’t know the proper terminology. I personally didn’t know the difference btwn sunny side up and over-easy until my mid-teens lol

THAT IS ALL I KEEP THINKING ABOUT! He was touched by an angel, also jw; where's Duncan in all of this?

Does he? ⚔️

@@tgardner11I’m pretty certain Duncan stays with the house no matter who runs it. He was there at the end in the back when Olli was standing over all of the graves, the figure that turned away

I just saw this exact comment under Amanda the Jedi's Saltburn video, do you just copy/paste the same comment on every Saltburn video?

@@tgardner11if i gauge his role correctly (he seems to be head of the staff for the entire estate, not just a butler employed by them or something), he’s an employee of the estate, not of the family. if all of them die, he stays no matter what. the only way he could be let go is i believe if the head of the estate (which by the end is Oliver) fired him himself. which from my understanding especially with staff that have been with the estate for generations or at least quite a long time, they rarely do unless they fuck up badly, or a new owner wants to have new estate staff (which is unusual, as each estate is unique and having someone with knowledge of your specific property is imperative to the functioning & upkeep). we do see him linger at El’s grave watching Oliver, so he at least was still employed then, and we don’t see staff after that at all, but it’s likely he would still work there, now for Oliver

thank u for saying this!! i was upset w/ the way the class issues turned out in the movie

There was another ending but that ending was scrapped

Hahaha, right? 'And what if he was from PRESCOT??? God, how awful!'

I get where you're coming from, but I feel you're missing out on some of the complexities with class in the UK. Fennell came from wealth, yes, but in the class system there she'd still be seen as "new money" or tied to the working class by the former gentry or "old money". She has a lot more in common with Oliver's family as opposed to the exorbitant generational wealth that the Catton family had. Were her takes on class still out of touch, especially to people actually of the working class in the UK? Absolutely. But it adds a bit more context in terms of Oliver stating that he was different for needing to "work" despite still coming from privilege himself

@@dreadwolfrising for working class people, that's all intra-class distinctions that ultimately don't mean anything but to new money and old money people. Emerald Fennell still went to the same prestigious schools that old money people sent their children to, and would've moved in the same social circles, or would've socialised with old money types as a result. Tatler covered her 18th birthday party, and the guest list was chock full of hooray Henrys. Her Dad went to Eton, he ain't exactly slumming it comapred to old money tyes in terms of social cache. Wealth is wealth, it can buy assets and social prestigiousness , and tha'ts ultimately what separates them from the rest. Oliver is just a wealthy persons idea of a revenge story - to assume that middle class people are so ennvious as to be nefarious and untrusthworthy. It's an Old Money family, sure, but Emerald has had more of an old money upbringing than she'd probably like to admit, and she's certainly closer to old money than British middle class people probably think she is, especially since old money is falling out of favour, and the lords and that have had to open up their estates to tourists for money. She definitely would not be seen as working class, sorry but someone called "Emerald Fennell" who went to private schools and Oxford ain't seen as working class, or even close to it. There have been lots of posh, lady writers and she's definitely carrying on in that traidtion. She's basically a Mitford.

Right? In the grave scene I thought: at least he didn't unbury Felix to assault his corpse

What's BM&B?

@@catrocks7180 Bad Movies and a Beat. The series on Kennie's channel where she talks about bad movies while putting her makeup on (I'm sorry, I just had to 😭). She has an entire playlist.

@@thefeelingoflookingataclea932 it was pretty good haha, I was thinking the same thing 😂

Genuinely, I’ve seen way to many d tier movies to be grossed out my a beautiful mess, like at least it’s cinematic 😅😂

this, yes !

Right? Wasnt she also Gone Girl/Amy Dunn? I'm currently watching her in The Wheel of Time and the RANGE of that woman!

Thank you for this. Loved learning about The King's Bedroom

So..basically glorified airbnbs 😂

thats so cool.

@@rawrxd9558yep! If the ceo of Airbnb decided to tour listings, give little to no notice of their arrival, and not pay for anything (and have the power to take away the lister’s home/money), given that context, the practice was always batshit lol but that’s royals

Really, calling her "the replacement queen in Wrath of the Titans" would have been more on point! 😅

Honestly i see her as Jane in pride and prejudice

I was looking for this comment 😭

Gone girl hits the most

Or Pride and Prejudice

also, it doesnt help that the protag lied about how poor he actually was and the stock he comes from because he wanted to emotionally manipulate (and possibly guilt?) the rich family by trying to appear more sympathetic and as an underdog. Which is what the super rich already think poor and middle class people do. They already believe poor people are exaggerating and aren't as bad off as we say we are and can't be trusted because we're all just lying out of jealousy and greed anyway.

YES THANK YOU. It just has the vibes of "no, it is the poor peopIe who are eviI. Not us"

This feels like to me the most accurate summary of this movie I’ve read thus far.

Yes exactly! And for me your point is illustrated by the big gaping hole in the story: Why does Oliver want any of this anyway? The movie seems to take it as a given that of course he wants what they have, because they're the best people and they told him he can't. But why? To attend parties with people he hates and have a huge useless house that's freezing in the winter and sweltering in the summer and is probably a black hole money pit for all the repair and upkeep it must take to keep a building that old standing? Oliver doesn't seem have political ambitions, he's not in a precarious social situation, he doesn't seem to WANT anything. Even his fixation on Felix as a motive is completely undermined by the end when the movie implies he planned it all along. So... why? The fact that saltburn doesn't even attempt to answer that question is revealing. Of course everyone wants what they have. That's what makes the premise of this movie so terrifying.

@LS-hp5or Thats a good ass question. Saltburn isnt big on self reflection or personal growth, from what I see from kennie's review. Even after damn near 20 years after the meat of the movie, the protag hasnt realized that his desire to be someone he's not will be his ultimate undoing or that he might be biting off more than he can chew. In those 15 years, he doesnt realize that the best things in life are free, or that its lonely at the top or that life has so much more to offer that doesnt involve being unthinkably wealthy. Like healthy and intimate relationships, overcoming personal challenges and achieving personal fulfillment, making others happy and helping them to reach their dreams, service to others, etc. (bc lets be real, you can be a 1%er and still go to your grave never having experienced any of that) the protag is so blinded by material wealth that he doesnt even consider the life the rich family live is pretty hollow or learn from their mistakes (he's like the opposite of howard from Pearl in this way) . They dont actually treasure anything. Everything is disposable because their level of wealth can buy anything. Their lives are void of depth and meaning. Every decision they make, no matter how big or small, is inconsequential because if they dont get the outcome they want, they can just fix it with money. Maybe having so much money that reality bends around you and your whims actually isnt healthy. Protag never considers that or what he has to lose tho. As if to say he doesnt have anything worth keeping at all if he doesnt have wealth. the movie treats it like its just a given that theres nothing better than being ridiculously rich just because the 1% wouldnt trade being rich for anything in the world even with all the baggage that comes with wealth, so why wouldnt poor people trade everything just to be where they are too. As if wealth is the ultimate in everything. (Even though the protag's classmate is also well respected and charismatic aside from being wealthy. money cant buy a winning personality, talent, or genuine connections, all things protag also lacks.)(it wouldve been an interesting twist to see nate from euphoria isnt actually all the things protag made him out to be and it was the halo effect and money projecting that persona onto him so protag was envious of a mirage the whole time) in order to never reflect for a moment throughout and after that whole experience and all the murder/death, I feel like the protag must have never had a conscience or definite morals even before he got to oxford. He certainly didnt grow a conscience after 15 years. At least rich people can cite "affluenza" as to why theyre shitty people. protag wasnt wealthy after those 15 yrs so he has nothing to blame for why hes still so unscrupulous a decade and a half later after being removed from all proximity to that level wealth. Protag didnt go to therapy, he didnt do any introspection, he didnt overcome any of the worst aspects of his identity. Hes just an opportunist (kinda like a parasite 😉) that never questions whats motivating his desires or decisions. He just sees a chance and takes it, without a second thought. Are we to assume he was always like this even before oxford? or are we to conclude that proximity to wealth is irresistibly seductive and the thirst for money never truly goes away even if it lies dormant for a decade and a half? That wealth and privilege truly have no competition? its like the protag is a straw man that affirms rich people that their fear of the working class as a credible threat is valid and justified because being rich is totally awesome and not overrated in any way and anything the working class have cant compare to what wealth can provide and the poor know that even if they dont even know what having an immense amount of wealth is like or the baggage that come with it. Thats why you have to keep the poor poor and why you need to stay rich, because once the working class get a taste of the good life, theyll cut your throat to keep the money flowing. This whole movie exists just to affirm the rich that everything they already think about the working class is correct and that theres no need to reevaluate or reconsider these fears or prejudices because doing so could mean death and loss of generational wealth, the most awesomest thing of all as everyone knows, rich or poor. Its like this movie is supposed to be a cautionary tale to rich people. And just like cautionary tales, it has little to no nuance and gets a lot of things wrong about the lesson its trying to teach. Protag comes off as such a boogeyman. But hes only a boogeyman to the person whose worst fear is that a poorer person will infiltrate their inner circle and take their family's generational wealth. Which is the worst thing a rich person can experience, as everyone knows.

That was the only thing that shook me

Me too! The NOISE of it

It was the combo of the slurp and the nasty ass drain for me. You can only clean those so thoroughly

fucking same man, it was reverse asmr

For me the slurp was fine but tonguing the hole and pretending it’s Felix was the bridge too far for me like would he really eat his poopoo is that what we saying with this scene and the dirty water like sure

Completely agree with this and other sentiments like it. If you actually look at him as more of an unreliable narrative, you can start to really see (upon second watch) where the truth and Oliver's story collide. ESPECIALLY when they go to see his parents and his mom drops the little number of him "always trying to distance himself" and alluding to him always wanting to be the only child and not making friends. She tries to push it off that "they were just jealous" but when you see the dad's reaction, he clearly knows his son is a sociopath. I wholeheartedly believe that is the truth, and that Ollie wanted a different life... a better life, but --- to Kennie's point of the narrative not feeling incomplete. The question is left up to the audience guessing why, when it truly feels like we see the answer through Felix's last look of sadness and concern for Oliver's parents' desperation of trying to connect with Oliver or excuse him. There is no reason... Oliver just doesn't have the range or capacity to care so he'll say or do anything to disengage... hence Felix saying "Ollie just take a pill or something for Christ sake."

I agree

I agree especislly when you consider he hooked up with a girl Felix was with too. He didn't really care about her or hooking up, he just wanted to be close with Felix in any way possible

True.@@kyletheresa

Expeditiously

not me eating while watching this video, ew ew eww

Literally same 😭 Also your username >>

Lawwwd

The grave scene had me audibly shrieking and disturbed 😭

@@rx500android your pfp🤩

I didn’t watch the movie but I watched the Normies reaction video. And even though a lot was edited and blurred, I’m still traumatized.

Drugging someone is poisoning them. I thought the exact same though, and Ollie knew what he was doing because he did it. The only flaw with this (fault of the writer) was that we don’t know this or we don’t know that the family know this yet. He’s being taken away to go to a coroner to determine cause of death. I know it’s the only rational decision but it’s also annoying.

Yeah, people making it about class are too big picture focused imo, this is a very intimate, small story. The “poor” literally aren’t represented at all here, there’s no “the poor are actually evil” message, just that people fucking lie when they want things.

And Oliver was dressed as Puck for his birthday party: the shit stirrer who started all and turned everyone against each other.

@@MistyWarden Oh yeah he had like deer horns right? Not the devil in any way

also explains why she was so hesitant to leave when "subtly" prompted to at her last appearance.

me but on the living room tv at 5am with my roommate lolll

And now look at the core audience of that media. Men who hate women and it’s not in like a stylish, conceptualized way that focuses on weaponized feminism it’s just literally them wanting to beat their wife without consequences. I wonder who this film will attract other than pretentious cinephiles lol

The movie was directed by a woman, I think that explains many of the differences in tone and treatment of women.

It is interesting to see people's reviews and how people's opinions differ. I've also seen Possessed by Horror's review of this film and she is obsessed with it while Yhara Zayd hated this movie. I've also seen Austin Burke's review of it and his opinion of it in line with Kennie's

two times here and watching this? time for a third watch

i watched saltburn just to watch this video and came right back already knowing i'm gonna hyperfixate on it for a while 😭😭

@@codycat6for real!! i don’t think i know anyone who has only seen it once if they really liked it lol

my best friends brother is also autistic and is totally obsessed too. I've tried explaining to her family why (cuz they're pretty oblivious to neuro divergences), but they are genuinely worried about his love for the film

This was my take on the film as well , loved the way you described it

I think this is the reason why plot twists have started to get grating recently. It's supposed to shock you yes, but you're supposed to have the hindsight of "How the hell did I miss all of that?" And not "Why the hell did that happen?" Too many of them work to shock or get a gotcha in the audience instead of letting the story make narrative sense.

1. Who was that hot little freaky twink 2. The commentary videos are gonna be literally lit

Yeah, I'm not bragging about watching disturbing movies but this is mild compared to other things

Yeah you’re right that doesn’t make any sense. Ollie should have also killed farleigh. But even then it would stay in the bloodline?? Surely these estates are a little more fool-proof than Ollie’s harebrained scheme

I saw an interview with Emerald Fennel where she said Farleigh's still alive and Oliver's "win" might be challenged by him, since he is an original Catton. She basically said it's up for interpretation what happens to them after the film ends. I hope there's a sequel where they fight to death and Farleigh moves in with his mum lol.

Also: the egg thing also reeked of purposeful manipulation to me, like he's testing how much control he can have. He asked for this thing, he got it, and then he's like "no, that's not what I want."

I felt the same, it really did have a slight fanfic vibe going on, but more narrow somehow

33:10

I literally exclaimed “Oh my god” followed by “no” and finally “why would you say that”

FRL LIKE HUHHHH😭😭😭😭😭

this is my favorite comment ever I wonder how that guy is doing today 😌

It's predecessor purple noon is good too

@@idonteatspiders2986 ooo! Hadn't heard of that one! I'll put it on the list! ✍️

Please pin this 💀

I read this comment before getting to THAT part and i was STILL unprepared. I liked boba!

33:10

I was completely fine until she described that scene like that 😂😂😂😂😂😂

ALSO! Tom finds a way to stay enmeshed with Dickie's family after Dickie is dead bc Tom murdered him.

I kept saying The Talented Mr. Ripley throughout. This shit is an awful, dull facsimile of better media.

It was so close too when Felix was laying in his room shirtless I really wanted them to smooch but Felix “doesn’t do labels or relationships” something gayer. If you haven’t seen Swallowed that kind of scratched my itch for the time being

@@nailinthefashion time to watch swallowed

Learning that this movie wasn’t truly overtly gay was devastating and tbh I’m not gonna watch it now

@@tylerharris1715 fr absolutely tragic ! if youre gonna go crazy ya gotta go all in def a bit of a disappointment lmao

Doctor Who playing the Psycho is a trip.