So Many Swatches!!🧶In Search of the Perfect Vintage 3 Ply Yarn for Vintage Knitting

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It's time for an experiment! The most common yarn weight suggested for vintage knitting patterns is 3 ply. But today very few mills still make 3 ply. So I decided to try and find some modern yarns that will work for vintage patterns.
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00:00-05:04 - Intro and Terms of the Experiment
05:05-08:00 CaMaRose Økologisk Sommeruld
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08:00-09:24 Lang Yarn Jawoll
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09:24-10:20 MillaMia Sweden Naturally Soft Sock
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10:20-11:07 Cygnet Truly Wool Rich
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11:07-12:07 Cascade 220 Fingering
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12:07-12:54 Schachenmayr Regia 4 ply
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12:54-13:46 Neveda Socky/Pulli
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13:46-14:32 KnitPicks Palette
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14:32- And the winner is...
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@claire2088 2 года назад

Claude: "if you like me do a lot of vintage knitting..." Me *does no kitting at all* still watching it to the end 😂

@julieb7270 2 года назад

Haha, same!

@EngineeringKnits 2 года назад

This was such an informative video - I learned so much! I always wondered how close we could get to vintage 3 ply with modern yarns and it was fascinating seeing some of the substitutions I've used and how they compared to others. I'll have to get my hand on some Jawoll! Also, love all the jumpers you're wearing in this video and the ones you have planned. Of course, beyond excited for you knitting machine adventures, too!

@melonby Год назад

I can't sing the praises of Shetland Heritage yarn by Jamieson and Smith enough: it is explicitly a recreation of the pure wool yarn used in early 20th century fair isle knitting. All vintage solid colours, knits up to 3-ply, available online and not too expensive.

@MrsBrit1 2 года назад

If we want to see it....uhhh, why is that even a question!?? YES YES YES!! Make us a patchwork cardi, Claude!!😍

@brittany45 2 года назад

Yes, basically all our yarn is loosely plied, even the really expensive stuff. It's because knitting is considered something you do to make HomeGoods like blankets or heirloom stuff like baptism gowns, not actual wearable garments. Also because a lot of yarns rely on the acrylic content to cling to itself.

@stevezytveld6585 2 года назад

_Small suggestion for the vintage yarn labels_ - Frame them. That way they get preserved for the grandkids and they get to continue to exist outside of a rubbish bin. I'll be doing this myself on a vintage, still in the waxed wrapper, Barbour thread I'll be using for saddle stitching leatherwork (as if sewing hadn't already blown through the space & storage 'budget'). Thanks for the video. Very informative. I'm still refuse to take up knitting. Partially because Mister Husband is a Vocational Deacon in the Anglican Church. I won't knit and I won't work for free. That's my deal with myself... {laughing} - Cathy (&, accidently, Steve), Ottawa/Bytown/Pimisi

@indigokavanagh2475 2 года назад

Bendigo Woollen Mills sells 3ply yarns if anyone in Australia is looking. Though the cost of international shipping might make it unaffordable for others. Very informative video, always happy for more knitting content 🙂

@katherinemorelle7115 2 года назад

I've heard excellent things about Bendigo, but it's so expensive. I'm lucky to have a secondhand haberdashery near me that I can get a lot of very cheap things, but it does mean that you can't plan for anything, and just deal with whatever they've had donated.

@My_grandmas_dress Год назад

@@katherinemorelle7115 Bendigo is the cheapest wool yarn I've found. There are cheaper acrylic options, but if you're looking for natural fibres, I've never found anything cheaper than Bendigo Woollen Mills and they are much better quality than a lot of other yarns.

@_carolbaby_ 2 года назад

Brilliant video and thank you for solving a long-standing mystery 🙌- I've before never seen anyone cast on | cast off in the same way I do! I'm in my mid-50s and was taught by my Gran who was an epic life-long knitter - it makes so much sense that she'd teach me in that 40s style. Mind. Blown. Love your work and happy to see your health improving

@joannmaccready1835 2 года назад

I cast on this way as well. I have never seen anyone else do it either.

@bergdis1996 4 месяца назад

The O in Lopi is more like the O in 'low' and the I is more like the I in 'is'. The 'ei' in einband is like the fonzes 'ey', just the short version of it. We usually use einband for things like socks. Because then we can use non spinned wool and the ienband gives it a bit of strength.

@CCienM 2 года назад

Hi Claude, in case you’re interested, Bendigo Woolen Mills in Australia carries classic 3ply 100% wool in 500gr cone for AUD38 (about £22). Of course you need to factor in the shipping cost. It says 32sts with 3mm needles. Hope it helps.

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

Thank you! I might skip this one as I try to avoid international shipping for environmental reasons. But maybe for a special project. Also maybe some one else might find this useful 🇦🇺

@smallishkae 2 года назад

I was just going to mention this! Any Australians looking for 3ply, head over to Bendigo Woollen Mills.

@historical.isolde7918 2 года назад

@@RetroClaude Aussie knitters always go to Bendigo Woollen Mills. Consistently high quality product.

@infamoussphere7228 2 года назад

@@historical.isolde7918 I've been really happy with Bendigo Woolen Mills, although so far I've only tried their cotton. They sent me some beautiful shade cards for free, and I can't wait to visit them in person later this year. I also love Nundle Wool Mills for their wonderful affordable sock yarn - great for colourwork because it comes in small balls so you don't have to commit to getting a huge ball of sock yarn just to do a bit of colour. Bellevue Park Wool 4 ply is also beautiful yarn in beautiful colours and imo very affordable - although it's pure wool and not superwash so if you aren't someone who is fine with handwashing your cardies it's not the best choice.

@threadsoftime6771 2 года назад

i can attest that this a great yarn to use, a rarer crepe ply as well.

@mrsmscuriositycabinet6925 2 года назад

I love these kind of experiments!! I'm rather partial to Jamieson & Shetland's Heritage yarns for vintage patterns. For me it works for a 3-ply tension on 2.75 mm needles (I'm a loose knitter) and although it is 2-ply it is worsted spun (unlike J&S Jumperweight). In the 25g skeins it would work out more expensive than your £5/50g budget but I save for a 500g cone in one of my 'go to' colours for several garments and then it works out at £3.80/50g. Have you considered West Yorkshire Spinner's 4-ply Signature? I get closer to a 3-ply tension on that than a 4-ply and I like its tightly spun nature. Also, it's soft (to me) but wears and wears. Re the Jawoll, I like the feel of the yarn when it knits up but in my experience (for what it's worth) I am not impressed with how it washes and wears. I'd like to try the CaMaRose as it's 100% natural, organic and the colour range has a pretty but muted vintage (rather than baby pastels) feel to me.

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

I have tried West Yorkshire Spinners! I completely forgot about it for this video because I only had half balls left and no yarn band. I've only used it for socks so I'll have to try it for 3 ply tension too. Thanks for all the suggestions. Particularly the tip about the J&S cones! I've got a fair isle twin set I'd like to make which needs a lot of yarn so that seems like a great choice!

@patterntreasures 2 года назад

I can't tell you how helpful this video is! I'm new to knitting, especially vintage knitting, and the names of the yarns often leave me confused when they don't even tell you what ply it is. Your knitting videos are fab and I'd love to see a rainbow 1940's jumper video.

@rebeccacuthbertson1271 2 года назад

So educational Claude!! And I love both the cardigan you've started and the stash buster make do and mend sweaters coming up. Thank you for sharing!

@TheEconWoman 2 года назад

You are looking great and your energy level is up. I hope things are truly going well for you right now. Once again, a lovely video about a topic that not many people discuss.

@MarcelaNaranjoG 2 года назад

Ohh, and that top you're wearing 🤩😍

@timestreel4384 2 года назад

Thanks for the comprehensive review! I have a couple skeins of vintage 3ply Bernat Fingering, from the 1950s. The label says it has a whopping 185 yards to the ounce...I don't know how they spun it so light!

@imhottequilabrown 2 месяца назад

I always thought Neveda IS a vintage yarn 😯 Thank you for clarification 💕

@TheDesertMarmot Год назад

I realize I’m very late, but I just wanted to add a few things. I don’t know how Palette compares to internationally available yarns, but I’m american and I would definitely consider it looser than normal. I’ve used it several times and you won’t get a nice crisp stitch definition. What it does really well is color work and it steeks nicely. You probably won’t find 3mm needles sold by themselves here in the US, but some needle sets include them. My DPN set from knitpicks has them. Regia sock yarn makes lovely, hard-wearing, socks. I think the first pair I made for my husband lasted at least 5 years before I darned them. Nobody gets row gauge, like ever lol. Awesome video and I can’t wait to finish catching up!

@thewoolverine4420 Год назад

I'm an American and a newish knitter, advanced crocheter. Fingering weight is basically as close as I have ever seen to a genuine 3-ply that isn't acrylic "baby" yarn. I think the loose two ply spun yarn is pretty typical when using wool, although a lot of our indie dyers use fingering that is more like a true 3 ply yarn with more strands twisted together at the same thickness. The 75/25 wool /nylon yarns are about the best modern stand in for the 3 ply vintage you're looking for. If you order from knitpicks again I suggest using stroll or hawthorn. You might find you love them better. Happy stitching!

@historical.isolde7918 2 года назад

By the way, Bendigo Woollen Mills in Australia sells a 3ply yarn. It is AU$38 per 500g, which works out to be UK£24.43. It is 100% merino wool and very nice to work with.

@MissMVintage Год назад

I keep coming back and re watching this video. It is SO helpful.

@olliejones3302 2 года назад

Thank you for sharing, it is very interesting seeing the comparisons directly with the vintage yarn

@nimuenorth6295 2 года назад

Jawoll is indeed a German pun. Jawohl (with a longer O) is a word of wholehearted agreement, also traditionally used as an affirmative to a given order. Jawoll is actually how the word is pronounced in many dialects.

@deejustdee1234 Год назад

Yes please. The patchwork sweater seems like a lovely idea!

@eastonmartin5342 5 месяцев назад

I’m so happy to come across your tutorials

@bowerbirdstyle7661 Год назад

Your pink jumper is really nice. 👌

@SarcasticShrubbery 2 года назад

This was really fun and useful! I love Jawoll too. I knit a lot of socks and it holds up really well, and it comes in a million colours!

@infamoussphere7228 2 года назад

oh I LOVE German sock yarns - it seems that Finland is the country of big thick bedsocks and Germany is the country of sock weight socks. They make beautiful affordable sock yarns in a variety of great colours.

@Michael-if6my 2 года назад

This is a lovely video. I love these sorts of experiments. I hope you're doing well, you look well and I hope that is true. I really wanna try some of these yarns and some vintage patterns now

@raevynwoods9403 2 года назад

This was super interesting! I've not tried any actual vintage knitting patterns yet, but that is the style I like so I definately will in the future. This video will be very helpful to go back to when selecting yarn for a project!

@heidiclarke2333 2 года назад

Great to see you looking so good, and a wonderfully interesting topic, I love vintage baby knits, but most people what brighter colours for their babies, lots of good ideas. Thank you.

@catherinemiddleton2088 2 года назад

This was excellent thank you 😊 I've been trying to figure this out for my jumper. Would love to see these knitted into a patchwork jumper

@leah_goldberg 2 года назад

So much excellent information! Of course, I would love to see your adventures with a patchwork sweater :)

@MonaSkovJensen 2 года назад

Yes to the video about the 'Make do and mend' sweater! You look to be doing a lot better? I do hope that you are feeling better! (Forgive me for being annoying but I just have to ...be annoying; CaMaRose is a Danish brand. Had it been Swedish the name would have been 'Organisk Sommarull' - I'll show myself out!🤐)

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

The internet lied to me!!! Forgive an ignorant mono-linguist 💚

@cecilegreer8122 2 года назад

More knitting videos, yes please! This was very useful to me, because I do live in the Netherlands! Never heard of that yarn before!

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

Yay!! I knew there would be someone out there!

@coreygilles847 2 года назад

This is so interesting to watch!

@CamthalionSpirit 2 года назад

I really just freaking LOVE your videos

@silvertrees 2 года назад

Thank you, this was a great video, with lots of useful information and inspiration. I liked the budget you worked to (kind of matches my own). Also, useful to know the most common casting on and casting off techniques used in vintage patterns. I would like to see a make do and mend inspired jumper, yes, thank you!

@ladannourbakhsh4289 Год назад

Really useful thanks for doing this. I love the sound of the Jawol and now plan to use in a project I've had in mind for ages. The trend these days away from these fine knitting guages (except for socks) means there's a lack of information for us vintage pattern fans so this is just so needed. Thank you.

@elainebye9090 2 года назад

Thank you! Very useful and enjoyable video.

@saranatalie13 2 года назад

Happy to see another video from you!! Would you ever make a video about your knitting machine?

@janatherton9194 2 года назад

Susan Crawford has two yarns, Fenella and Excelana which were developed to be as close as possible to vintage yarns for her books, I'm not sure if you have tried those already, or if they are withing the budget you have, but the Fenella yarn works really nicely for colourwork and Fair Isle. I spin, so I found that helps me if I'm looking for an unusual size, or mix of fibres.

@MarcelaNaranjoG 2 года назад

Yay!!! Thanks so much!!!! A save it forever kind of video!!

@auntiezann5146 2 года назад

So much fun!

@airwavesintheair Год назад

This is really helpful, but now it's gotten me thinking about vintage colors of yarn!

@debraitaliano4831 2 года назад

Loved this video and would definitely love to see a make do and mend jumper 😍

@lolapunk20 2 года назад

I'm in the US and cascade is one of my favorite yarns to use for my everyday projects.

@ThimblewolfArt Год назад

I always love your videos so much. Would you do a video explaining all the terms you kept mentioning/talking about yarn properties and how to choose yarn for a pattern?

@lauraraines767 2 года назад

Thank you , wonderful video.

@yojeffschott Год назад

"and this, sort of petrol blue" ❤Loved this comment 😂

@KristenStieffel 2 года назад

I hadn’t noticed that about the loose ply of American yarns. Just dove into my stash to have a look. They are not all like that, but many of the affordable ones are loose. The tightly plied ones tend to be the higher-end hand-dyed yarns. But then my stash is probably not a representative sample, because I do tend to favor stuff from the bargain bin. 😀

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

I'm starting to wonder if there is a historical tradition in Britain that makes the yarn different? Maybe the mills we use are still set up in a more historical way? Again I now have a research rabbit hole to fall down 🤣

@kelley4086 2 года назад

I just busted into my grandma’s pattern book from the 1940’s. So far I’ve just done a Red Cross sweater for the Navy. I did it in Star Trek color patterns. My next project I wanted to make something a little more authentic to the time period so this video will be super helpful.

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

A vintage star trek sweater! Amazing 😃

@apollonianeumer3094 2 года назад

So helpful, thank you!

@laurenk5379 Год назад

If anyone is looking, ChiaoGoo and Knitter's Pride both make 3mm or US 2.5 needles for anyone in the US. I've always wanted to knit a vintage pattern, but as someone with a larger bust size I don't think my brain can handle all the pattern grading.

@kjtherrick4031 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing your tests. I usually find that I knit large--maybe my tension is too loose. Of course I want to see what you come up with for all the yarns you've purchased!

@emmaRBC 2 года назад

Oh I'd love to see how the knitting machine works if you're up for showing it at some point! ☺️ Also, another vote yes to seeing the make do and mend project !

@MeribethCPlenert 2 года назад

I love this. Please do a video on the knitting machine!

@annesullivan1171 2 года назад

Yes please, do the patchwork card M do and M. You are looking well. ❤️

@veerlebisschop9382 2 года назад

Such a helpful video! I just started knitting vintage patterns, so it's great to know which yarns are suitable. I am currently knitting the rainbow jumper with Drops Baby Merino and I feel like it matches the tension quite well!

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

I've used a few Drops yarns for vintage knits. They've worked well but many of my favourites are alpaca so didn't make it into the video. But yes, affordable, fine enough to get 8sts to the inch and good quality 💚

@actual-spinster 2 года назад

this was so interesting !! thanks for sharing, definitely interested to see what you knit from all the yarn! idk quite why [aside from fatigue/brain fog lol] but i am awful at remembering what terms about yarn actually mean so this was also very nice in that respect!!

@infamoussphere7228 2 года назад

Thanks for putting all the work in for doing all of these tests! I'm consistently a tight knitter - I routinely go up 5 mm with needle size with everything I knit, and always do gauge swatches. It wouldn't fit into your affordable criteria but I bought Madelinetosh 80/20/10 fingering and found it to be a very fine four ply - certainly finer than any other sock or 4 ply yarn I've ever used. I'd definitely call it a 3 ply. Koigu KPPM is also on the thin side.

@infamoussphere7228 2 года назад

Also I find myself a bit frustrated when they only recommend grams rather than metreage in knitting patterns. I knitted a 1980s Shetland cardigan and of course the yarn had long-since been discontinued, so I had to do a substitution. I should have done Jamieson 2 ply jumper weight but at the time I didn't know about it, so I used alpaca. And I bought it by weight. Alpaca is a lot lighter than wool, apparently, so I ended up with something like 5 more balls than I needed, and it was EXPENSIVE.

@infamoussphere7228 2 года назад

Just had another thought - Estonian yarns are astonishingly cheap (at least in Estonia.) Don't know how available they are online but I was able to get a jumper quantity of their 100% wool shawl yarn for something like 1 euro a ball.

@Kitty-gf2dr Год назад

You need a knitting play list for your videos

@RetroClaude Год назад

I do have one 😊 ru-vid.com/group/PLIpjXi4a4nTRxS1pdJKjeoJ418fJ9q2ps

@roadrunnercrazy 2 года назад

Great experiment! Recreating vintage textiles with modern supplies can be really challenging. How soft (not scratchy) is the Jawoll yarn? I find there is a lot of variation among wools, but this looks like something I might try. Would love to see your colorwork project!👍😁

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

It's very soft! One of the softest I tried 💚

@emilykatemadethis 2 года назад

Thank you for this video.. it was really interesting. And I'm so surprised by the difference between 2.75mm and 3mm in your swatch... I never thought 1 stitch could make such a big difference. Then again, I'm always annoyed that my yoke sweaters come out too small when I'm 4+ stitches out so I obviously need to learn to swatch better 😂😂 I have so many vintage patterns but keep stumbling on the yarn choice. I will try jawoll out and see how it knits up 😊 thanks again

@MisSiszY 2 года назад

Ah I wish Id known, I was in the Netherlands until a couple of days ago and I couldve dragged you some back! 😂 hopefully Scheepjes see this and then bring out higher natural funkier 3 plies!

@RoxanneRichardson 2 года назад

Two-ply yarns tend to be flat, so they're good for lace, because it really allows the YOs to open up. Once you get into 3 plies or more, the yarns are rounder, and you get something more suitable for texture. (I don't tend to like the look of knitted fabric in 2-ply yarns, but that's probably because I'm just used to 3- and 4-ply yarns.) When my kids were little, I used a lot of Dale Baby Ull, which I had a gauge of 8 sts/in, and 4 actual plies. My recent vintage sweater (1940s) called for Beehive 3-ply, and the pattern called for 7.5 sts/in. I used an American yarn produced by Brown Sheep Company (they're a vertical mill, so they produce their own yarn, rather than using one of the huge commercial mills that produce yarns for lots of brands). Their Nature Spun yarn is a 3-ply, and comes in four different weights (fingering, sport, worsted, and chunky). What is interesting to me about this yarn is that it seems to ride the line between a worsted spun and woolen spun yarn. There is sooo much yardage (283 m/50 g for the fingering weight), and it blooms once it's washed. The label says 7 sts/in, but I worked it at 7.5 sts/in and it was completely fine. I wonder if firmer gauges might have been more common back then? A firmer gauge will fend off pilling and stretching out unlike the looser gauges seen so often in contemporary designs.

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

A very interesting point about tension being tighter for harder wear. I really got into knitting through my love of vintage so I started with vintage patterns. It always shocks me when I knit a modern pattern and the guage is so loose!

@infamoussphere7228 2 года назад

@@RetroClaude Maybe I should switch to vintage knitting! I have a horrendously tight gauge and habitually go up 5 mm in needle size with everything I knit or I won't make gauge. It's a very consistent gauge, it's just...consistently tight.

@roryfroschauer4821 2 года назад

My yarn stash is probably at least 50% knitpicks palette by now, I use SO much of it. It does, as you posit in the swatch knitting section, even out nicely after washing/wet blocking. The loose twist is not my favorite, but when you're buying sweater quantities of yarn at the frequency that I do I have a hard time wanting to pay 2-3 times as much for the same amount of yarn to get that tighter twist.

@BYBabbra 2 года назад

Very informative video. I don't knit, as I did once knit a sweater but the neck was so tight that it would probably only fit a flamingo. Gave up after that and stuck with sewing. I would love to see a top from all those lovely different wool's.

@troberts1 2 месяца назад

American here, so I've only used two of these yarns, the Cascade 220 Fingering and the the Knit Picks Palette. The Palette I have no idea what my gauge is with that because I've only used it for my crocheted flower blanket. And for the 220 Fingering, I've only knit it on 2.25mm (US #1), for a cowl, and that was 10 stitches and 12 rows to the inch. o.o My gauge is so fine on that, and in stockinette, I don't think people realize it's hand made, so it's never gotten compliments. XD As for the spin on the yarns being so loose, I think it's more common for wool (?). I associate that tight spin like your vintage yarn more with synthetic yarns over here. Maybe it's cheaper that way? A less dense yarn means more yardage per gram?

@bovinesrkool13 2 года назад

I know exactly what you mean about the Milla Mia sock yarn. They just feel and look much more synthetic and plasticky than the fiber content would suggest. I love the socks I made out of it, but I don't know that I'd like a whole sweater.

@petapendlebury9024 2 года назад

Great video! And perfect timing. I'm looking for a dark navy wool for a 40s cardigan and the Sock Yeah brand (which was in your price when I bought it for my last cardigan but has gone over it now) doesn't have one I like. I can recommend them for a good 3 ply swap though - I got tension with the recommended needle sizes. Jawoll are going to wonder what's going on!

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

Thank you for the recommendation! I think I can get Sock Yeah in my LYS so I'll try it. But yeah 10% inflation right now 🙃

@handmadebyflorence Год назад

I don't do vintage knitting at all, but I really enjoy the yarn Filcolana Saga and I wonder if that might be good for this type of thing. It's 3-ply, definitely thinner than the 4-ply yarns I reach for and 100% wool. Maple Tree Yarns sell it for less than £5 I think and the colour range is quite good.

@michelleblount1336 2 года назад

Love the pink jumper you are wearing at the end of this video and will you be showing us your machine knits.

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

I hope so! My knitting machine needs a little TLC and quite a lot of strength to operate so it might take me a very long time to actually finish anything but I'll share if I do 💚

@kelsea8767 2 года назад

I did a little poking around from the US side of things, and it is interesting to see most of the Neveda yarn that I could find being sold with the keyword 'vintage' attached to it. And I could not find the Socky/Pulli variety at all. I don't doubt that there is a market for 3ply style yarn but maybe there is a business reason as to why they are no longer selling their yarn internationally.

@Anne-ok3bi 2 года назад

Interesting and enjoyable video. Just fyi Bendigo Woollen Mills have 3 ply yarns. Don't know what the exchange rate is or delivery... Looking forward to seeing your next make. 😊

@cassidykraft3618 Год назад

In the US 3.00 mm is a size 2.5, and although it's hard to find in bigger stores it's easy to get online and in some small yarn shops

@Hepzibahlee8440 Год назад

Hi Would you do a video on the knitting needles needed for vintage knitting. And would you show your needles Thanks 😀

@nisoZ 2 года назад

Hobbii unicorn solid is very close to your desired gauge xx

@AlanDaviesGirl 7 месяцев назад

Me finding out I cast off in a 40s style: aw nice! Me realising that’s probably because my grandma taught me: awwwww nice 🥹

@juliaforsyth8332 Месяц назад

That's the way I was taught by m Oma and my Mum.

@milu9099 2 года назад

About the coarse feeling wool yarn, sometimes they become surprisingly soft after a wash... try that with the swatch before you give up on it!

@rosaliebossler4415 2 года назад

I use the Lopi Einband for vintage sweaters and find they turn out fantastic. I use hair conditioner when washing to soften them up even more.

@lizcademy4809 2 года назад

I started knitting in the early 1980s and got in deep ... including teaching and designing. I don't knit much any more (burn out), but I do keep up with American knitting trends. These days, I knit either my own designs or very sturdy hats and mittens. Not the same work as you do, but we share the same historic perspective. American yarn *is* very fluffy. Also, the recommended gauge is much looser than it used to be. For example, a 5 weight "knitting worsted" that in the 1980s would knit to a sturdy fabric at 5 sts per inch now would need to be knit at 5.5 or 6 sts per inch to get a sturdy fabric - but the label says 4 sts per inch! It's almost impossible for me to find the dense sturdy wool I want for mittens. [Bartlettyarns still carries it.]

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

Oooh interesting! Shrink-flation perhaps? They make the yarn less dense but keep the price the same so we don't notice?

@thegrynne 2 года назад

They are slightly above your specified price range if you buy by the ball, but I suspect Holst Supersoft and JC Rennie Supersoft Lambswool would both meet your gauge specifications. They are described as 4ply, but I find them to be a light fingering/3ply, and if you purchase them by the cone they are very affordable.

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

Oh thank you!

@liesbethvermeulen2883 Год назад

We have the Nevada yarn in The Netherlands

@sighcantthinkofaname 2 года назад

Really interesting! I wonder if the quantity being wrong has to do with the pattern listing weight instead of yardage? Since different fibers weight different amounts they'd have a different yardage per gram.

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

I think that must be it. The vintage yarn doesn't have yardage on the band at all

@juliabreckner2759 2 года назад

As an American who buys very very cheap acrylic yarn (I've been making little dolls that sit on bookshelves, so fibre type hasn't been important) all of my yarn is two fluffy pieces twisted together. I've been confused whenever people talk vintage knitting and say things like three ply or four ply. I didn't know yarn could be that different! I didn't realize the fluffy two strand yarns were an American thing.

@nubiferanota 2 года назад

i so wish you could try russian yarns, there are so many options that i feel you would love and would work very well for your yarn needs aahhh

@infamoussphere7228 2 года назад

yeah I found Estonian yarns to be finer and very VERY cheap, but...I think you sort of have to be in Estonia to get them. For the traditional shawls and gloves. I imagine it's similar in Russia

@KristenStieffel 2 года назад

Excellent video! About the needle size: you are correct. A US size 2 needle is 2.75 mm and size 3 is 3.25 mm. Someday maybe we’ll go metric.

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

So no 3mm option at all? Not good for vintage knitting!

@KristenStieffel 2 года назад

@@RetroClaude Yes, luckily Internet shopping is a thing so we can get imports when we need them.

@roryfroschauer4821 2 года назад

I feel like I've seen a few companies (chiagoo maybe?) that have a US2.5/3mm recently! I haven't had a chance to buy any yet but it looks like they're starting to exist. I've always been annoyed by the fact that the sizes increase inconsistently. ... Also annoyed by the fact that one of my needle size gauges says that a US 3 is a 3.125mm which, uh, no? But that's a whole other can of US needle size worms...

@heathersarbo271 2 года назад

Good evening! Just an FYI Amazon has Paton 3 gage yarn! Hope that helps..

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

Oooh really? I'll take a look! Thank you 💚

@florenna 2 года назад

Hmm, all those yarns are still pretty pricey for me, at least where I live (including online shops) ;) For me, anything over 3 Euros for 50g is pricey (but I prefer cotton or cotton blend yarns, anyway, not fond of wool). A very interesting video, nevertheless! :) (You're way more meticulous with swatches than I am though, all I ever have patience for is a couple of rows that I then unravel after measuring, and that's it :D)

@rebeccasabourin6193 2 года назад

I don't knit, my hands will not alow. But really enjoyed . 😊

@0ceanOfStorms Год назад

I think sandnes garn just released a new yarn that could fit the gauge. Its a 3 ply 100% norwegian wool yan at 205 m/50g for 49 nok ~ 4.15 gbp. The only problem is that I don't know how available it is outside of norway and europe

@SoniaThatcher Год назад

Really helpful video as new to vintage knitting. Can I ask about the jumper you are wearing, its lovely just wondering if you could point me to the pattern please if you dont mind me asking. Thanks

@RetroClaude Год назад

www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/lacy-yoke-blouse it's this one! Available free too!

@adrenalinjunkie9682 Год назад

This was a very confusing video until I remembered English knitting needle sizes go backwards 😅

@thomasfoley8287 Год назад

I know this from a few months ago but have you considered using a 1-ply lace and a 2-ply lace yarn held together? This should come out to a 3-ply fingering and be within your price range.

@kaytiej8311 2 года назад

I do wish that yarn producers would bring back some of these lighter plys. I have always found 8 ply way to heavy and hot to wear, despite the south eastern Aussie climate I live in. But trying to find a 5 ply these days is almost impossible! Especially something affordable. Our equivalent for your 'cheaper' wool would be nearly $9 AUD, which would make a jumper for my size (plus) around $90. I blanche at spending $4 (£2.25) for 50g. And that is the common garden variety 8 ply. Home knitting has become a luxury and yet has such limited options now. Where is the 2 ply, 5 ply and 7 plys? And options in colours? Is it this difficult in the UK? Buying online has its own draw backs - can't feel the wool; see the accurate colour; and postage to Australia is exorbitant. Oh dear! All that aside, your video was really informative and helpful in finding a comparative yarn. Thank you!

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

I think it's slightly easier to find lighter weight yarns in the UK just because we still make quite a lot of yarn here. It's easier to find 'lace' weight yarn too because of the Shetland tradition but often you can only get it on cones.

@eeyore_chick6059 2 года назад

Thank you for this video! Have you found any good sweater patterns for a sport weight yarn? My BFF & I both bought sweater quantities of sport weight yarn however the sweater pattern we purchased it for turned out to be a HORRIBLE pattern with gauge variations throughout (I typically wear a US 3XL & I was making a medium with the gauge still out) - now we're struggling to find a nice seamless (knit in the round) sweater pattern to use all of that yarn on...

@heidiclarke2333 2 года назад

I have just knitted the 'pink memories' by Isabelle Kraemer lovely pattern I omitted the pocket. I used 4ply+mohair to get sport weight and did swatch.

@infamoussphere7228 2 года назад

Curio is a beautiful sport weight cardigan that's easy to knit, free on Knitty. Bottom up, in the round, raglan sleeves. I was very happy knitting it.

@ceara3100 2 года назад

I would say that is an American thing to have loose spun yarn. Someone gave me some Finish yarn and it is MUCH tighter.

@makadoodledoo Год назад

me sitting here with three ply yarn thats wool and has a recommended needle size of 3mm. but its hand dyed and sorta expensive lol

@meamela9820 2 года назад

Really interesting! I knit a lot, but seldom think about small details like this. I just fuzz around instead when things are off instead of getting it right from the start... Just want to point out that the text on the CaMaRose yarn is in Danish, not Swedish ;)

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

Ah! I stand corrected. Forgive me 💚

@meamela9820 2 года назад

@@RetroClaude No worries :) I presume they look very similar to those that don't speak them.

@RetroClaude 2 года назад

@@meamela9820 I also think I first bought that brand in a LYS and someone told me it came from Scandinavia and that got muddled in my brain. Then I saw the Ø and was like "oh that looks like Swedish!" I know better now 🇩🇰

@meamela9820 2 года назад

@@RetroClaude Swedish has Ö, whereas Norwegian and Danish has Ø. But it made me happy nontheless to see a Scandinavian brand. 🧶

@mariebray9831 2 года назад

I understand, the 3 ply, problem, the only ones that are easy to get are for baby knitting. I use 4 ply too and do math so I may follow a pattern size about 2 sizes smaller that to get the size I want to finish with. eg to get a 38inch bust in 4 ply follow the 32inch bust pattern.

@barbararadzeviciusbondi4150 Год назад

I see a YELL Cardigan in the background. What was the brand and price of the yarn used please. I made a YELL cardigan using Jamisons and Smith and it was rather an expensive garment. Did you apply your yarn criteria to that knit too? Very interesting topics.

@RetroClaude Год назад

I must confess I didn't for that one. I used the recommended yarns Jamieson of Shetland but it was very expensive I think £75 in the end. I didn't feel confident enough to swap all those different colours out for something cheaper online so I splurged