I used to feel line a loser because I work blue collar jobs that don't utilize my brain. The modern employment structure doesn't accomodate intelligence so I'm honestly avoiding a giant Wall I'd be beating my head against.
Yeah, maybe I'm a loser, maybe I'm a complete failure.. I grew up around drug addicts, drunks, mental illnesses, ex-convicts and abuse. I'm just trying to do things *differently* and hoping for the best, hoping something works out eventually. I want to have kids some day.. I try to remember what I went through, so I don't repeat my parents mistakes. So yeah.. Maybe I'm a loser, maybe I'm a failure.. But I never went to jail, I never hit my partners, I don't do hard drugs, I drink twice a year, my bills are paid, there's food in the fridge, and I don't cry every night like I used to. So there's that.
@@ukaszrojek9516 I don't know, I just hope my kids aren't as messed up as me and my siblings. I'll probably do things that'll screw them up in some ways.. Like.. I'm used to spend a lot of time in a room, researching, writing, learning.. I'll probably keep doing it after having kids.. Maybe it'll screw them up a bit on some levels, but if the rest is.. Somewhat normal, maybe they'll be better equipped to face the world than I am. Hopefully they can chase their dreams and do things I don't know how.
@@oohehoohahahtingtang1232 Every parent screw up, some more than others if you care for my advice I could tell you to not overcorrect to the other side either and always try to be better. After all isn’t that what we all can do?
My mother called me a loser since I was 5 years old. As an adult I realized that I don't have to reject it, I'm embracing it and the feelings of shame, anxiety and depression I used to have are all gone.
haha same, she used to tell me to be like everyone else when was at school "don't be yourself" she used to say stupid abusive b1tch.. but you know what I'm happy just being me by myself as an adult just doing whatever the hell I want so it worked out fine for me in the end.
Good observation. Like Henry Cavill talking about playing Warhammer on some British talk show and the headline says something like "And that's why we love him..."
It works the same way with unattractive people. The whole "Ive never seen an attractive gamer" tik tok phenomenon happened because "gamer" is a dirty word and attractive people who play video games are not seen as that, they are left off the radar entirely. If youre a fat guy with a beard people will assume you're a gamer whether you are or not, with all the connotations that come with that ie sexist, racist, homophobic. Whether or not you are percieved as a bad person is almost entirely based on your appearence. The halo effect is real.
I'm short, hispanic, in my late 30s, have a beard, single no children, construction worker, I play some video games, occasionally workout, use to workout 6 days a week, spend most of my weekends by myself reading, drawing, working on my car, or hobby, I don't support the ABC Mafia or religious cult.
The problem is the Incel and Femcel-feminists are fools. They want a relationship when most people in relationships these days end up really despising or being apathetic towards it after a while. The incel-femcel doesnt realize they have freedom but are so ungrateful and have some stupid fantasies about what a relationship will become - they do not have the courage or common sense to pay an Escort which is actually easier for men. Men have been brainwashed to think they will find happenies in romantic relationships when in 99% of cases it wont including for millionaires like Tom Brady.
@@indiomoustafa2047 The thing that people miss is that, in the modern west, your status as a regular man is predominantly made up of your looks. It's why women will go for a tall white man with a jawline who works a regular job vs a short bald man who might be a top 1% earner.
Look at the type of people this world is rewarding. The things they say, their actions and their character and ask yourself if you really want to be that. From what I gather, a good beeline to success by all the measure we hold dear in this world is training yourself to be a sociopath.
I wonder who will start the killing this time around... Will the bottom eat the top? Will the top turn the bottom into fertilizer? Old against young? Men against women? Or some random stranger who goes on a massive spree? With this globalism tribe A vs. tribe B seems less and less likely, but the levels of insanity keep and keep on rising.
@@jabberwookkee Warrior genes are not present enough in the west to regulate sociopathy. In ancient cultures sociopathy and narcissism was given a simple treatment, beheading.
I lived with someone who kept pestering me to work full time, even though I enjoy my days off and avoid most tax, he turned to drink for 6 months while I was content with my gf and PS4 lol.
The 'self improvement' sphere is like "You don't have to be a loser! Just give up everything that makes you happy, discard your personality and selfhood, and follow these formulas. After you finally get the thing society tells you you should want (an attractive woman, kids, vacations to Europe, etc.) you'll be much happier than you are now, chasing after short-term enjoyment! Trust me, bro!"
And infact doing that, causes one to lose their inner self. Connection to their inner self. Their true unconscious self. And leaves you potentially with mental illnesses.
honestly I do not mind being considered a loser...it grants me a whole lot of freedom in my life... most will ignore me and I do as I will... being a loser doesnt stop me from living a fullfilled life
Just a outwardly perceived loser. Hopefully not an internally perceived loser. If the latter is true than it's time for some psilocybin...5g. Experience ego death and recreate yourself based on that which always was but never understood.
@@JohnSmith-ys3wc loser or winner neither have any value to me ... if you can see it is all a ranking system for the benefit of women. I am happy when submerged in the forest walkin the path of my ancestors listening to them speak to me thru the instincts they passed to me... winners or losers is for city dwellers not hunter gatherers.
Everything out here ain't what it seems, When you're down to nothing just go ahead and dream, Face the fact that you're a circle in a world full of squares, Trading sorrows for tomorrows, that's the hobo's prayer.
The world is cruel. Even if you break free from your limitations and succeed, you’ll have an army of haters. If you don’t succeed, you’ll also have an army of haters.
I'm 33 live with my parents. Got a decent job, nice car, average looking, have had social anxiety since high school, everyday is brutal and I'm exhausted interacting with people at work. Guess I'm a loser but I do have a beautiful 7 year old daughter who thinks I'm amazing. So I can live with that!
You spend your whole life stuck in the labyrinth, thinking about how you’ll escape it one day, and how awesome it will be, and imagining that future keeps you going, but you never do it. You just use the future to escape the present. - John Green
@UCG71t8csIWeE6NccZUsqI0A Your purpose is to survive and spread your genes. And most men throughout history have failed to do that. If i remember correctly only 40% of men in history are our ancestors. It was always the best males that got to reproduce. The only time this changed was in the 20s to 60s. Not saying everything was better but for most men it was.
@@TheRelen222 I was talking about the meaning of life in it's purest form. All the rest is meaning that we give to life. And whether you think life has meaning in itself or you find the meaning of your life that's for you to choose what you believe in.
All I seek is a stable lifestyle. I stopped caring about going above and beyond. The reality is other people were destined for greatness. Too bad I was dealt with the wrong cards. Just be truthful to yourself. And try to control some aspects of your life. Don't think of the past.
I have the 4 6's. I'm still miserable. I am an introvert and I feel like my life is a prison. Work the high stress job during the day, come home to high stress at home (kids' homework, make dinner, take kids to practice, etc). I will almost certainly die of a stroke at 60, and quite frankly I don't even care. Weekends are even worse because that is just dealing with kids 24/7. There is no rest and that is deadly for introverts. Definitely recognize who you are, and don't just follow the "normal life path" like I did. I promise you it doesn't necessarily lead to less suffering.
I chose forensic pathology as opposed to cardiology and I couldn't be happier. I work on winners and losers everyday and they all look the same. You'd be surprised how many winners come into our office with self inflicted gun shot wounds and deaths attributed to overdosing. I've always been a bit of an odd ball, but made a lot of friends amongst the goth crowd in high school and college.
Many prostitutes do drugs to cope with having sex with guys they despise and most hate sex because of that. You see the Instagram THOT's on yachts and exotic vacations but you don't see the 300 pound billionaire paying that was holding the camera
The term "loser" is cope as it allows some people to make a "moral" judgment regarding others so they can discard them as human beings. It is completely cultural and time-dependent - like all moral judgments. There are too many people in the world, so we must delude ourselves that most of them do not deserve to live in order to remain "moral" and saine.
I love being a "loser". My last co-worker friend had a child with someone out of wed lock who previously had another child from another man. My other friends are either doing hard drugs or busy with their families with no middle-point like myself who does neither. Therefore I have no "friends" currently and I have never been more free. I quit my job, help my mom with her job and she's going to retire next year. Putting on a mask and doing physical labour and dealing with automotive chemicals in a rim/axel manufacturing plant isn't something I'd recommend to people that cannot handle low oxygen. Even though I barely have spoken to anyone during this pandemic I have confidence in myself that I lost after the beginning which was having to give up my online clothes selling job. It took a lot of learning and reflection to realize what my value in this world is and even though I get depressed often, I can always readjust to reality through purpose.
I have found that many people who have made the 'right choices' in life often regret them, even if they won't admit it to you. You can tell in how they act, their general mood and the ways they spend time defending and excusing such choices as though they need justifying, to themselves. I, when alone, am quite contented with myself. It's when other people interact with me and decide to judge my ways that i feel self-conscious. Or when I consider what my parents, or friends would think if they saw me playing games, or expressing my cynical opinions freely etc. That makes me frustrated and annoyed. but generally, I am happy with myself until other people start trying to guilt me into being like them.
@richard is right... I went through life trying to do the “right” thing, and now I am childless and it may be too late for me. No one is perfect, no one has everything figured out. Be yourself, do what you want without hurting others, and you will be great
@@BrieBella2707 Being assigned the role of birth giver is something the government does to make tax money off your eventual child. The shame that you are feeling is manufactured by subliminal messages in movies, tv shows and other media. All of this is done for the sole purpose of balancing the books, so imagine what kind of debt and trouble they won't face in this insane economy. Sometimes its the mistakes we don't make that we learn from the most.
@@readplato Yea she probably has some difficulty on the inside but the non stop messaging, especially around the holidays is when you're suppose to buy everyone a gift? Eventually an exchange like that with a male non family member might end up in a relationship, maybe wishing to have kids naturally. But I don't buy this biological clock bs. There might be sound science to back it up, but given the state of Fauci's science, I'd rather trust personal experience instead. With the economy and endless lockdowns, this is a recipe for troubling a youth during their early life.
I'm sure the herbivore men of Japan have been called losers for over 10 years. However, what many people forget is that if they say a word too often, it doesn't have much influence. For example, if a man who normally speaks politely says a bad word on a rare occasion, people tend to notice those occasions. However, if some rude person is constantly swearing, nobody notices any of it.
i wish i could just move on like this with regards to certain situations but i sometimes cant and it takes days to get over something (not referring to insults on my looks)
Excellent point. Leaning into what you are is really meaningful. Owning up to the things you’re into and good at gives you a natural confidence. It also helps you let go of things that just aren’t you, and helps free up your time from doing unnecessary activities that you don’t enjoy. It’s the true meaning of Going Your Own Way. Maximize what makes you happy. Fuck what others think. Live without regrets.
It’s amazing the effort and energy that’s put into shaming men for not being seen as receiving female validation, especially from normies, but not exclusively. You can find plenty of that in manosphere spaces as well, and I don’t think these guys are really conscious of what they’re doing.
Also remember its only against men, there's little stigma against women who live with their parents, or don't work, or masturbate and etc. and etc. Men are held to never ending standards and women are held to practically none....
@@bobdole27 Good point about the masturbatory double standard. Many women buy vibrators, but few people care, however, men try and sometimes succeed in buying sexdolls, and masses of people lose their minds.
@@skylinefever Yup, i've come to realize it all boils down to this: If a man enjoys something that isn't in service to society or women then they are to be mocked and shamed for it.
@@bobdole27 I learned if they mock me or shame me for enjoying things I like, for me to give no shits about it, a wise guy once said 'the more you don't give a fuck, the happier you'll be' words to live by
I went to a college that was primarily theater( although I majored in IT). Theater students had very long hours during rehearsals, and after graduation almost no one had a job. Theater Techs(lighting, scenery, stage managers) were 100% employed after graduation but no one dreams of holding the spotlight, everyone wants to be IN the spotlight. Often jobs that are fun, pay little because many people want them while those that are unpleasant, difficult or boring pay much more. Telling people to rack up 100's of thousands in student loans to "follow their heart" is denying reality and ruining lives. If you are content with a life of poverty doing what is fun realize what you are signing up for
Yeah, thats basically how it works unfortunately. I tried majoring IT, despised it and dropped out. Now I am in something I enjoy and might struggle in lower status after school. If I stayed I would 100% land a job I despised and eventually off myself...atleast I am enjoying life for now a bit.
when most people fantasize about being a CEO. they think about the positives. the money, women, status. they don't think about the negatives. the 120 plus hour work week, the constant attempts by your rivals to replace you, ect.
It really depends what you want to ''win'' at in regards to being a loser. You could argue that a CEO or other workaholic is a loser when it comes to living a content, peaceful and relatively stress-free life.
Agreed, I saw what climbing the ladder did to my dad and there’s no way I want that lifestyle. I’d rather drive an old car, shop at Walmart and have less stress, better health.
When I was younger, I struggled a lot against the idea of being a loser. I knew I was one, but I didn't want to be one. As I've gotten older I've come to understand that I'm fundamentally a wonky cog in a machine, and never quite fit in. I remember thinking about this a while back, musing that a lot of guys want to be Henry Cavill because he is a gaming nerd but also handsome and built. And I remember thinking that I don't really want to be Cavill. I want to be me. But who is me? A loser, a genetic dead end, human sludge that gets washed away in the rain. It is what it is.
you have meaning. We'd all be Henry Cavill if we won the genetic lottery, but you are more than mere materialism or what others define you as. Being aware of how others see you can lead to advantages.
Try being not only short but having a visible facial flaw (hypertropia). I actually hold my head high and embrace who I am in front of people I know make fun of me behind my back. I'm 36 y/o and I have actually heard grade school kids making fun of me. Sometimes even to my face in a subtle way. Call it cope if you want, but I have accepted and love myself and would never change who I am. I live as if I could be an inspiration to someone somewhere. I live as if my very existence is the biggest middle finger a human being could ever give to this world
@@johnrockwell5834 I don't really care about living a fulfilled life. I don't seek spiritual enlightenment. I'm okay with a materialist concept, because it means that this bullshit will be over eventually.
I'm getting to a point where I no longer care about fitting in, no longer seek the validation of others and realize just how worthless human approval is.
I hit that point at like 16 but the only thing that bothers me is that some people go out their way to try and show me their disapproval but that just reminds me of how shit and shallow their life is and despite all my set backs and shitty cards dealt, im actually blessed in a lot of ways. I just be myself and do whatever I want and if I aint got people bothering me, im pretty good most of the time.
I've always had this designation of 'loserdom', and Im fine with it to be honest. I've avoided all the pitfalls of 'conventionalism': namely expansive college debt, the marriage/divorce cycle, and being trapped in a job that I hate where the stress would slowly kill me. I work entirely from home and live a minimal lifestyle, which has allowed to me to save/invest the vast majority of my income. I now have enough packed away in retirement, savings, and passive income that will allow me to retire in my late 40's.
@@mr.oblivious7034 I was doing medical office, but ended up taking a job as dispatcher (still working from home). I went to a vocational school for certification. It was about 8 months, and not really all that difficult.
@@ACzechManGoingHisOwnWay the big 5 personality model. It's also obvious that some people are predisposed to being workaholics whilst other are predisposed to laziness or incompetence
@@ACzechManGoingHisOwnWay Evidence? You need a biological lifeform for such traits to even manifest. FFS this is basic shit. If the genes aren't there it doesn't matter how much the environment would theoretically favor a particular disposition.
I work. Come home. Game. Workout etc. I've tried to talk to women etc. Never felt good enough especially due to the "loser" tag. I'm growing into what ever my life path is. To keep it transparent I am 26 years old and still a virgin. But I've grown into it.
Losing your virginity wont change much. Sex feels great but its temporary and it dont matter anyway unless you actually want to reproduce or you're in love with a woman. Both are terrible things in these times.
The genetic determinism pill, aka the black pill is bruuuuutal. Personality is not learned, it is determined as a result of external forces - how people treat you during your childhood, puberty, adulthood. Attractive males aka chads have always received positive reinforcement their whole lives through their social circles, at social events, in relationships, at the workplace, simply because of their superior genetic traits - which are highly desirable. Chads don't 'learn' confidence, their looks IS confidence. For most of us, being a loser isn't by choice, but rather, it was what was predisposed to us as a result of our genetics. Anything we do to try and improve ourselves are simply 'coping mechanisms', but hey, a good cope is better than no cope at all. Stay strong guys.
That is only partly true, what if you were an unattractive overweight male from say age 10 - 19 as was in my case and of course having low confidence due to how you’re treated by society. However approaching 20 you lose a load of weight and begin grooming yourself better and dressing better and all of a sudden everyone loves you again as in my case. I had all that positive reinforcement but I was still that same fat kid who got treated bad inside so I was still messed up even though I now looked like and was being treated like I was a “chad”. That was hard to deal with believe me. I suppose I lookmaxed without knowing what it actually was at the time and I’m gonna be honest it wasn’t really worth it because like you said society shapes us and I was already shaped by that time. I was better off just keeping to myself.
@@emokiller907 I had a similar situation, I just was at the point when I've embraced being a loser. That way when people were giving me any attention I would just act with a straight face like "I'm just some weirdo, nothing to see here, move along"
@@Illlium yeah it’s pretty satisfying, honestly, when they expect you to be outgoing popular chad and then they’re baffled and like “you’re weird” and inside you’re just like “yeah I’m glad you think so, goodbye” more guys in this community need to know we exist! There are like minded “chads” out there the grass is NOT always greener.
@@emokiller907 I am not quite a chad type but I look a little handsome and strong. I have had women who I didnt like try to get my attention whom I ignored and it got them so mad. Like it was my fault that they wanted to get played and used by a chad type but they made a mistake. They are like reverse terminator where they are scanning for chads to abuse them but the scanner malfunctioned and they throw a tantrum and blame someone else.
@@emokiller907 the grass is greener, im not chad but id love to be. either way i gotta put up getting bullied for my looks. most men would not like to be bullied for something outside their control. not everyone was fat while young, some of us are gymcels but have bad faces or short height. no matter how confident we act we are seen as losers. be grateful you are beautiful and use that
This is the role you have been given, embrace it. Do not fall to apathy. Our struggle is to love our own lives despite all the darkness, to imagine Sisyphus happy, to have the love of God in our hearts, Amor Fati.
The term 'loser' comes under perspective. The guy that plays video games 10 hours a day can still be happy doing what they're doing. That person is still happier than say what Robin Williams was, who had a wife, kids and a social life but had thoughts about ending it all and despised the people around him. Should the guy that is truly happier really be defined as the 'loser'?
People brand you as a "loser" and misjudge you over things you barely have any control over(if at all). It's no wonder certain men don't want to bother doing anything anymore. It's not being a victim. It's being tired of the world's unfair and unending bullshit towards you. Until men who are losing in life can find a way to gain their own personal happiness by reaching their goals things will never change for the better unless you're part of the crowd that's winning(which isn't as earned as much as people would like to believe).
Conservatives would hate you for not enforcing their values onto men, which is probably why much of the older crowd, even in the MRM, hate Mgtow and neb who won't chase the carrot anymore.
Im a skinny 25yo male. Im 6ft tall, make about 75-80k a year, own my own house, my own car and motorcycle. However, I dont have any dating prospects. Ive been single for over a year. I work 60-70 hours weekly so all I can do is work and go home and play video games. The only thing I want is a wife and kids but I have 0 success on tinder and dont feel comfortable approaching random women on the street. Ive recently come to the conclusion that this is just my life now, and while im better off than most people, the men that are “more successful” than me are the ones able to get the one part of life I really wanted. Ive always been a nerdy loser in life though, Id much rather play video games and be a loser than give up my interests to impress some girl
Accepting that my life would always be average was the best thing I ever did. Once I accepted that, I truly started enjoying life. I don't desire to make 6 figures and drive a nice car anymore. I work a normal job, have a normal family, live a normal life, and I've never been happier.
@deltacharlieecho4732 there's positives and negatives to everything. My days/weekends are full of things I don't really want to do, and I don't really have time for my hobbies anymore. I have a buddy who never got married and he gets to just do whatever he wants to with his free time. I sometimes envy him.
@CLIPSFAMILYGUY nope. Looking back on this post is weird. I was completely miserable in my marriage and got out before it consumed me further. Funny enough, I *did* end up snagging a 6 figure job shortly after making this post. My marriage got worse and worse until I couldn't take it anymore and left. I quit drinking, quit looking for external sources of happiness, and I now accept the things outside of my control rather than try to change them. I am at peace with myself and my place in the world, and I think that's all I was ever looking for.
I'm told its part of being male. You have to give up everything that makes you to get a shot at the thing you really want in life. We are so many wrenches in a world full of nails being told we just need to be hammers if we want to handle a nail. A wrench can sort of hammer but will never be a better hammer than the hammer. It's better off being a wrench even if there are no nuts to tighten.
@@LongStar117 I feel the exact same way, but sometimes I feel terrible when I think the first part. Sometimes I want to shift all the blame on myself, saying I'm not fit for the way the world is. Somehow that makes me feel better and more content with who I am. I was raised by older parents and am at least a decade or two behind modern society in terms of mindset. I don't know if something's wrong with the world, but I realize I'm just not a good fit for it.
Damn I am the definition of a loser but what I like about the blackpill community is that I feel like I don't have to jestermaxx in order to fit in and to be accepted. Please don't jestermaxx you will regret having to be a certain way in front of people.
Being a “loser” or “winner” is just construct within the mind and has no actual physical weight Being a “loser” or “winner” dose not matter and certainly won’t matter when you are dead The only thing that matters is being who you want to be and being happy
I've never looked at loser-ism as something quantified by status, money, or love-life. For me, a loser is defined by his or her's lack of intelligence, morality, and spirituality
I always find your somewhat clinical appraisals of the situations rather comforting. I suspect it's because the brutal honesty without deceptive attempts to lighten the burden of a somewhat nihilistic perception is so rare. I have the same interest in Dark Ambient music with desolate, dystopic undertones. It sounds, in a symbolic sense, like an honest admission of the harshness of reality, rather than a delusional attempt to distort reality, which is inherently dishonest. I like honesty.
I'm a loser. I lost careers when my jobs were outsourced. I failed to lie, cheat, and grift my way to success. I lost relationships when I was loyal and honest. I failed to use fear game, relationship game, neg game, and frame game. I didn't know it was a game. I lost confidence when the deck was stacked against me. I'm a loser because I don't have a high notch count, I didn't pump and dump or something. Instead I got to date what was left, like a simp. Until I got tired of being a simp... so now I'm also a loser because I refuse to man up and marry some roastie. And then I was a quitter because I refused to keep trying the same failed effort over and over again at the behest of others who already "had theirs" and some could even profit off my effort. So yeah, I'm a loser. Absolutely.
My deepest interest, joy in life has always been drawing. Not even "art" per se, just drawing. And I was forced to go into systems engineering as a career, now I'm 23, I have less than a year to graduate and I know I won't even try to find a job related to that, I just hate it. And sure, it must be nice to get money, travel, find a wife, etc. But I've always been alone, and saying that I was doing STEM didn't really change anything for me, the only difference is that I spent less time doing what I love and my parents felt good about themselves.
I'm 28 nearing my graduation. My parents are already hinting that I have to get married after I start my career. I've seen the mental pressure they put my elder brother through once he started his career. Marriage marriage marriage marriage, they'd constantly pressurize him to get married. And they did it for six years. They'd outright just berate him. My brother is still single thankfully, he will marry on his own time and terms. They failed to override his will, but my parents are gearing up to start the exact same torture on me. This is making me so anxious. They just do this because they think it's their right to be in-laws and have grandchildren. It's a status symbol they think they are entitled to. Their son's preferences and pace are secondary and can be overridden through constant pressure. So I know where you're coming from.
Ok listen sometimes it’s good to learn something you wouldn’t even think about learning. Then there’s also a realistic expectation that an artist wouldn’t find a job as easily as an engineer would. Oh but everyone needs muneh. You didn’t choose as a kid to go primary school or not. Frequently our life isn’t in our control directly.
Don't see a reason to care about the concept of being a loser. if you're happy and satisfied with your life what's the issue? You can hardly call yourself a man if you're so bothered about the opinions of others.
I am definitely in the winner category when it comes to seeing through this systems BS. But by the systems standard of a winner then i am a loser. I do not have the great job, awesome car,big house,etc,etc.
The big house, awesome car, and the 9-5 are soul breaking traps that require continual sacrifices. I found it better to eschew all of that an save/invest my money instead.
Only in America the concept of "loser" becomes some sort of a cornerstone social foundation. Not to be labeled a loser people will submit, comply and at least attempt doing socially valued things, mostly climbing socio economic ladder with or without lip service to the rest of BS. The handling sequence is simple: do acceptable things-move up the ladder-be a part of a crowd-get your share of socialization, companionship, attention and consideration commensurate with your place on the ladder. Or be labeled "loser" the worst curse of them all.
@@newtfigton8795 it is spreading, in the countries I am familiar with the word "loser" is borrowed without any translation. Many cultures adopted this word verbatim because it expresses newly adopted social norms better than any native words used to convey lack of success in life. The word "loser" has shades of meaning no native word can match, primarily a loser being an outcast unworthy of anything. In the olden times lack of success and good luck in life did not automatically imply isolation of an unsuccessful outcast who did something wrong/does not have what it takes. An old time unsuccessful type was a part of a crowd, he primarily triggered empathy and commiseration not disdain.
@@ppss.6302 That old attitude in your nation sounds way better than what we have here in America. Here it’s just nothing but disdain for anyone who isn’t at or near the top socially. On behalf of the best of us, we are deeply sorry for spreading this poison to you.
Every little bit of involvement you have with people is a transaction. People are self-serving, and will only give you the time of day if it benefits them.
I make decent money, have normie tier looks, and have maxed myself out in certain areas of life, but i have no women. I don’t consider myself a loser because I did everything I could to possibly attract women, but I know I am a loser because it didn’t work. I think this is one of the worst positions to be in because over time you will start to think you are the problem even when that’s not the case. It’s like you do everything right and you aren’t rewarded.
I was bullied throughout my childhood. Had 9 different step dads before the age of 11. Single parent upbringing. Kicked out of 3 schools before the age of 9. Bullied through the majority of my high school years. Then I just did my own thing. From BMXing to music related stuff. But I did it like an absolute maniac. If you create a sphere of intense interest, then certain people will gravitate towards it and others will find it repugnant. But through my intense interests other women saw that “passion” and gravitated towards it despite my appearance. Many women were just intrigued and would move on. But sometimes you get lucky. But it’s hard at every level. You just get better are navigating the BS. Other men will also avoid you after a while because you show them up. Create a good proctor be a good product or both. Someone will notice. If that someone is not what you’re into then either hold out or settle down. The first thing you have to do is ignore your victim status whether it is true or not.
I guess I'm a loser then. I've always known that I'm different from the rest of the people around me. Not the "I'm unique and special" kind of different, just different from what people usually are. And I actually tried to be like them, to blend in. I hated every single second of it. Now that I've grown up, I finally understood that maybe I should just embrace who I am. And it's actually led to me being happier. For the first time in my life, I'm actually comfortable with my weird interest and who I am. So yeah, I guess I am a loser.
How can you be a loser if you're not playing the game? Now, if you play the game and lose that's a loser right there. If the game is rigged the easiest way to win is not playing.
I've been feeling myself this way for a while now, we are programed by society to do stuff that just doesn't benefit us, we're not good at or we just don't enjoy, embrace yourselves gents don't think you lack in something because you see others with it, an example I was obsessed with getting ripped a few years ago even though I wasn't particularly bothered about attracting girls, it was society making me feel that way, total waste of time and actually quite dangerous health wise.
Yes Yes Yes!!!! I am a loser but I do not know what it means. But yes, I am a loser and I will one day not exists and one day even the winner will not exist. What you have today will not be present tomorrow. You cannot store happiness. If you are delirious with happiness today DOES NOT mean you can withdraw from the store of happiness tomorrow and still feel good.
Instead of wishing you were someone else, be proud of who you are. You never know who was looking at you wishing they were you." I read this stupid quote today.
I don’t even play video games and I work extra hard but I’m just not that smart and skillful at business so I never succeed. This life is really not worth living and I’m not even that bad looking.
I started doing this a while ago. Just make due with the the hand that was dealt to you and enjoy the those few things that you like even though your achievements are below societal expectations.
I struggle however with accepting my fate. I kinda gave up dating at 29 years of age because I was not that attractive in the first place and after balding started it is over now. I managed to have a few relationships, have sex with maybe a dozen of girls but I cant help the feeling that having a happy relationship or having sex with 3 women a week is objectively better than having no relationship or having no sex at all. I have a decent career, went back to uni now so i have perspectives in life but come Friday if i dont attend the uni, all i can think of is buy some booze and play games. I dont even enjoy meeting people irl anymore.
Everybody wins sometimes and everybody loses sometimes but nobody gets out alive. Such a high school judgment, childish; amongst our winners where are our principled leaders? Good video, I agree with your philosophy.
The other side of this coin is the "winners" putting their head onto someone else's neck, then calling them stupid or "losers" for not making better choices. :D The irony is that neither losers nor winners are born. They are always made by other people and events influencing them.
You're last statement is especially true when it comes to medium to large companies. After going to a few investor meetups the people that tend to be 'winners' are basically selected, and are ALWAYS the first on the chopping block when something goes awry.
A man can change his own fate to a degree..some a lot some only a little. But you're not wrong that circumstances beyond our control determine so much in our lives.
@@Ziegfried82 The capacity and the drive of a human to improve themselves is acquired from the environment, though. There are no self-made men, IMO. The studying, the reading of the books, the trial-and-error, the hard work put in... it's all done by the individual. However, the idea and the intent to even do those things (rather than watching some stupid TV show, playing computer games, having sex or doing drugs) did not magically pop up in the man's head out of nowhere. :)
As a man in my middle 20's who is divorced, I have to say, Being a loser and a loner in my teens it was involuntary and painful, Now, it's voluntary and pleasurable, I rarely go out, yesterday I went out with 3 good friends (my best friend included) for a few pints, I mostly spend my time at my job, home, my video games and sometimes at the gym and once in every blue moon I go out with my close friends and meet up with my parents. Being in a quiet peaceful life is amazing.
"No one can make you feel infierior without you consent" - Eleonor Roosevelt Someone judge you - fck them. You live for yourself or for opinion of others?
I feel like I have to just accept my ugliness and and be "this is just how life is now." and that I'm never going to be married. So all that does is free up what money I can make and use it for my own interests. I'm hoping to get over social bullshit to go to school to get a teaching degree because I love history. If nobody wants me becuase I'm ugly then I'll just slowly build up my own US War history musuem and I'll be one badass history teacher. TLDR disregard what you know you can't get and work to something else. Keep it realistic. Worrying about what others have is a big thief of joy.
I don't want to be someone else, I want to be me, but faster, stronger, harder and without the crippling feeling of disempowerment that I deal with every day. I wish I had the power to be able to kill anyone at anytime for any reason, just so I can choose not to. That friends, is true power.
Would love to, if you haven't already as it parlays off of this video quite nicely, see you address not having any interests that are strong enough to warrant chasing. I feel like there's a ton of us out here who don't have economically viable passions/hobbies/interests that we would be able to springboard into a business/career, so we're caught in this limbo doing at best work that is "tolerable". For instance, I love to play games, but I do not love the pathways around the activity that would make it a somewhat profitable endeavor because, well, that wouldn't be gaming anymore I'd be creating or streaming. Hope to hear your opinion!
I feel the exact same way as you do man. I have a lot of things that I'm passionate about but none that are profitable especially when you're not extremely talented at it. And even then it just comes right down to luck.
Exactly. D&D and video game are basically my only interests in life (since I know I can't get women and other things naturally handed to Chads). I've tried my whole life to pursue "normal" jobs or careers. It all led down to me also making some money, but also being mentally and physically ill. I even forced myself to live the corporate life for three years straight, but at one point I decided I would rather starve than continuing on that rat race. Now I am taking programming lessons in the hopes of landing a remote job someday, and also because it's "tolerable". Maybe I can even create my own game someday, so I won't feel so "violated"...
It's the same for the majority. Most people have no particular talent, luck or drive in anything that can be monetised. That's why the majority work average, boring meaningless jobs.
Even though I’m retired at 33 and have a Vo2 max in the top 10% of my age group, 7-8/10, worked in 5 different industries, people would think I’m a loser because I’m not “travelled”, don’t have 1k+ friends / followers on soycial media, no gf and no friends. No matter what you do or who you are, people (invariably women) will always try and find your shortfalls. If they can’t, they’ll give you that epic loser response “oh well, [insert desirable attribute here] isn’t everything”. Just can’t win. Best “loser” advice I can give you all - just fill the space YOU create for yourself. Fuck everyone else.
Who even is the one too decide Another person is a "loser" a "failure" what right does anyone have too call Another that? I so far have seen that the Ones being Called "losers" are people who dont follow the other fish into the pond. They do what they Think is right. And this makes it so that majority of people Will view you as a loser. And only for the simple reason of being different and thinking differently. People want too feel like they belong its the herd mentality no one likes the person that breaks away from that mentality. They are a "loner" loser beta or any other buzz Word. Problem is thanks too that the majority fall into the herd mentality it is really lonely too stick out you wont connect to people and you Will spend way too much time with your own thoughts. For some this brings ruin. But for others those who can manage it they become better mentaly. All im saying is that loser as a word holds no meaning what one person finds value in Another one might not. But they might both call each other losers. And also Most people that call others losers are redpill idiots or bluepilled fantasy tonys. No honest Good People goes around and put others down
I feel like the term loser is just ancient shaming language. Everyone is a loser at somepoint, if they are competing for anything. It really gets down to accepting why you or others label you a loser. If your unconventional things make you happy, and you can support it, you're just different to those who are just farming people, particularly men to the plantation. Society and women need men competing. They need the resources, GDP and taxes. The moment you hear yourself called a loser and you feel better knowing your truth, they are the actual losers. Especially when the shame bounces off. That's particularly cool when it's not suppose to. It's that Matrix movie moment when the Agents realize you're not stoppable.
@The_Noble_One there's no such thing as a male virgin. Nothing changes after doing the dirty for a dude. It does change for a chick. So you aren't a virgin, you're just ceIibate. The only thing your missing out on btw is being able to say you've done it, and maybe the disappointment of how underwhelming it actually is.
A loser is a man who complains incessantly about his life. He is never trying to better himself. He is never accountable for anything. His word means nothing, not even to himself. If a man is content picking up cans with a shopping cart and sleeping in a tent, it doesn’t make him a loser.
I guess if you've been a "loser" your entire life, you have to make peace with that eventually. That doesn't mean you should just give up and accept being a loser a few years into your adult life though, not knowing what you could have been capable of is going to make life far more miserable.
I'm not a loser but I'm not a heroic winner. Indifference, and cope helps everyone through societal problems to an extent. At least it helps me greatly. To label yourself or someone else a loser or winner is nothing but broad societal expectations and comparisons for others. People can't be happy without a family. Well they're losers. No college means you're mildly a failure. They're losers. It takes a lot of burden off someone that is the labeled "loser" to have indifference for societal expectations. People think cope is a bad thing. Realize that everyone has a coping mechanism to keep themselves sane.
Society won't be content to let you pick what your interests are. I picked the military, but Obama said the purpose of my life is to engineer solutions for Climate Change.
@@nowhereman7413 Yeah, sure, let me get my Cardassian light counting kit set up. Then I can make you perception of the weather be whatever the government says it is.
I'm definitely a loser now, but I wasn't when I was younger. Everything hit me hard in my mid-20s and I entered a pretty deep depression. Now I'm 32 and I just feel like there's no going back. I'm massively overweight now, I can't stomach working for assholes anymore (which is most managers), I'm back in college but I feel like its more than likely just a waste of time and money, and it just feels like there is a part of me that's just...dead. Everything was so much easier and simpler 10 years ago. Now I have to fight myself to just do basic shit. My grandparents moved me out of state to live with them which was the final straw to my depression and the only reason I'm still around now. What hurts the most is knowing how worthless I am. I feel like if I was just a moron it wouldn't be so bad. To wax poetic, its like being a runner who massively injured their legs. You know you should be able to run but your body just doesn't let you. I'll stop while I'm ahead since I'm just rambling now.
I feel you man. I might be a little bit younger but i feel you. I don't really know what i can say. I think the best thing i could tell you is to focus on the things you have absolute control over. For exemple you said you're overweight maybe you should start working and stop eating junk food. I don't think people realize how much this plays for your mental health. Of course you'll still be in the same situation but maybe you'll finally find a way or the motivation to try to find a solution. I wish you the best man i know it's hard and life can be very shitty at times. It's garbage for me right now. But you might as well try it you have nothing to lose. Except some weight of course lol.
You just described me at 32 ,almost to a t. Except I went down to live with my mom then. I also couldn't stomach working for arseholes too. And I also started the path into depression at 20, when I started to see things as they really are. That's also when I started to become sedentary and gain weight. Exercises are good, but truth is, it's very hard to exercise when you are depressed. What worked for me was jumping rope, or any type of cardio. It helps losing weight, but it doesn't require much time. In fact, just some minutes are enough. You start with 10 jumps (yes, it's not that easy in the beggining), then 20, and 40 daily are enough to keep you healthy. You might still be a loser, but at least a fit and healthy loser. Plus, you won't suddenly die of heart failure, and if you are so inclined, you can at least make plans for a better future.
@@HeyMomonia I'm sorry to hear that your situation isn't any better then mine. I wouldn't wish this on anyone, except maybe the worst of criminals. I've tried eating better over the past few years. A comical cycle of doing it for a few weeks, maybe losing a few pounds before losing the will to continue trying. How do they phrase it in movies...eating your feelings? For me its more a matter of, it tastes good. Which is at least one nice thing happening in my life. Even though its temporary.
@@Theosis10 Don't worry man i'm used to it. I'm trying to get things better but i'm sick so i'll wait until i recover. And for your eating problem you have to find healthy food that taste good. You have a lot of alternative now so try a little bit of everything. Also you have to work on your willpower to keep on being healthy. What worked for me was forcing myself to exercise when i really didn't want to. I hope things will get better for you man. I know how hard it can be and how hopeless it can feel. Don't give up because you mind find something that gives meaning to all the pain you had to go through.
@@MedievalFantasyTV The world's a lot smaller than we give it credit for it seems. I hadn't really considered jump rope, the only thing I've really tried is walking up and down the long driveway we.
From what I got from a school of life video, yes they are not always right about stuff but this one was interesting enough, back in the day there where the "unfortunate" that had simply been treated harschly by fate but nowadays in the modern world the term "loser" has overtaken it's place and the ones that do make it, or hope to make it in the modern world, use it to prop up the optics of their own achievements and they simply have to downplay fate and can afford fake humility but not real one that has a cost.
