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So you want to go to Bible College? (Part 1) The Fake Degree of James White, A Cautionary Tale. 

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Recently, James White’s criticism of David Pallmann has drawn attention to White’s fraudulent ThD degree. In this video, we critique White’s defence of his bogus degree. We also advise students to never, ever obtain a certificate from a diploma mill.
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Correction: 19:23 I said that CES only requires "five pages" for its doctoral dissertations but also posted that the current standards which showed that the minimum length was 120 pages and 50 citations. My source of the "five page" dissertation was incorrect. However, 120 pages for a PhD is still a substandard length for a doctoral dissertation, and does not change the overall critique of the inadequate standards required for a "doctorate" from CES.
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@fernandocoto
@fernandocoto 2 года назад
Food for thought "Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall." Proverbs 16:18
@befkotze
@befkotze 2 года назад
Having met James White in person, "inflated sense of importance" is the first phrase that comes to mind to describe him. The other is "persecution complex".
@davidpallmann8046
@davidpallmann8046 2 года назад
Excellent! Thanks for doing this. I've been somewhat hesitant to make a big deal out of White's credentials since, as a mere Dillard's employee, I have no credentials to speak of either (nor do I claim to). I'm glad to see serious scholars like yourself calling him out on this point.
@TheEngineerd
@TheEngineerd 2 года назад
Well, as a mere Dillard's employee, you're on equal footing with White.* *Just echoing your own language, not putting you down with the use of "mere".
@marieindia8116
@marieindia8116 2 года назад
Jesus was a mere carpenter by trade. His followers were fishermen, a tax collector, and a few other humble men specially chosen. They were criticized for having no rabbinical accreditation but changed the world.
@tymmiara5967
@tymmiara5967 2 года назад
@@marieindia8116 Yes, but Jesus, the fishermen and the tax collector never claimed they are academic scholars. James White claims to have a PhD while, in fact, he has not met the standards of getting that title. If he wants to change the world by addressing the lay audience that is perfectly fine. He just shouldn't be seeking the title "doctor".
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@@tymmiara5967 That's exactly the problem. If he wants the academic title, he should do the academic work.
@marieindia8116
@marieindia8116 2 года назад
@@tymmiara5967 I wasn't comparing to White. I was encouraging Pallman.
@kingndanorth
@kingndanorth 2 года назад
Bold stand Dr Falk. Thank you for standing on your convictions no matter whom is being critiqued. It takes courage to call out anyone in the apologia/calvanist crew. They are known to relish a good fight
@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh
@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh 2 года назад
I am no fan of white and actually believe he is a heretic in some ways. However a Bible degree "accredited" by whom? the Vatican? Mormons? Jehovah Witlesses? The antichrist US Government? How about Christ denying Rabbis?
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh I'm afraid you misunderstand how accreditation works. Degrees are not accredited, but schools and programs are accredited. And the Government does not accredit colleges, other colleges do. Accreditation is all about delivering quality education. Are you saying that quality in a Biblical education is a bad thing? Why can't other Bible Colleges peer-review each other to assure that high educational standards are being met? Aren't some standards better than none at all?
@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh
@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh 2 года назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible I get your point, but who decides to "accredit" the institution. Harvard started as a Bible college and now has an antichrist president that offers classes on anal sex. I am no fan of white that is for sure. Should we let the pope accredit the schools? How about Rabbis? Maybe the Dali Lama? I think most Bible colleges are a waste of time anyways. just my opinion.
@spiderb3367
@spiderb3367 2 года назад
They relish a fight they know they can win, like a high school kid beating up a 10 year old. They don’t engage with anyone that isn’t low hanging fruit
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh The answer to your question is that the school itself decides who gets to accredit it. There are a variety of accreditation agencies out there. Some agencies specialize in the delivery of theological education. I think you are really scare mongering when you state that the pope, Rabbis, or Dali Lama could accredit, because even if they did accredit, they would have no say over the actual content taught, only over whether what was taught was done so in a quality manner.
@Mw-mo2wg
@Mw-mo2wg 2 года назад
Funny how after the debate he had with William lane Craig his supporters said oh Craig isn’t a theologian ignoring his terminal degree in theology from Ludwig-Maximilliéns-Universität München a college that’s well respected. Seems maybe WLC should of asked for someone qualified as a theologian to debate.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
That would be a perfectly valid reason not to debate White. I wouldn't debate White knowing he doesn't hold a valid terminal degree.
@wyattlong8321
@wyattlong8321 2 года назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible you’d probably lose, like it or not White is an exceptionally good debater. His many public debates speak to that.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@@wyattlong8321 Indeed, he might win such a debate, because too often debates are contests of polemics, not ideas. And it is hard to compete against a storm of ad hominem attacks and straw men. This is why I leave debating to better men than I.
@wyattlong8321
@wyattlong8321 2 года назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible I;m asking with honest sincerity here. Which of his debates do you think he did this in and in what segment of that debate? Becuase in all those I've watched he's preformed well against the like of Bart Erhman, David Silverman, and Trent Horne. I'm only curious which ones you think he performed so poorly in?
@DeJai237
@DeJai237 2 года назад
He won’t be able to find any, he’s not describing James White.
@SFT49
@SFT49 2 года назад
As someone who is a year (ish) from finishing his PhD, I find the devaluing of this degree (in the public’s eyes) seriously disconcerting.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
It is very concerning, and guys like White are helping to devalue the PhD as a respectable degree.
@boliusabol822
@boliusabol822 2 года назад
how many years did you study at and where, michael? also why don't you worry more about what you know than what people think you know.
@SFT49
@SFT49 2 года назад
@@boliusabol822 Not sure what the hostility is for. Maintaining the credibility of higher level degrees is important for more than a few reasons.
@marvalice3455
@marvalice3455 Год назад
What did you think would happen when most schools are secular and run for profit? How long does our quality of life need to go down before people start noticing that profit and quality are enemies?
@SFT49
@SFT49 Год назад
@@marvalice3455 Did you watch this video?
@jimbojackson4045
@jimbojackson4045 Год назад
I didn't even know this. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I will no longer be calling him Dr. James White.
@Toad-SG7
@Toad-SG7 День назад
"Which is justified because she has literally digested more books than he has." I'm dying!
@MichelleTurnz
@MichelleTurnz 2 года назад
Great information. Thank you for talking about this. With so many options for Bible College and seminary it's good to know what to look for.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
Thank you. We are going to have some information coming out on Bible colleges in the following weeks. 😊
@christistruth705
@christistruth705 2 года назад
“You don’t know what you don’t know.” I have found the more I learn, the more I realize I don’t know. And I know I’m not the first to have said that.
@transcendentalaesthetic
@transcendentalaesthetic 2 года назад
“Dr.” James White displaying an over-inflated sense of importance is the understatement of three centuries.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
😂😂😂
@NickQuient
@NickQuient 2 года назад
Well said, Dr. Falk. “Frontier of knowledge” is a lexeme I plan on using! Thank you.
@didymussumydid9726
@didymussumydid9726 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for taking the time to record this video and explaining the issue. I was a fan of his work because he is very good at explaining the area of his expertise to laymen. Then I had the terrible idea to call his ministry and offer some helpful criticism, for which I was sneered at and insulted by his ignorant but highly opinionated staff. Now I understand that "appearances without substance" is part of their operating procedure from the top on down. I don't think accreditation is much of an achievement, but this leads directly to the important question: "If a traditional degree is already compromised, why buy a fake degree?" The only answer is to deceive people who value a credential that you personally don't value. What a moral bankruptcy. Having achieved the status of "ABD" in a social science discipline at an R1 university, I understand better than most the difference between having and not having a doctoral degree. Thank you again.
@JLeppert
@JLeppert 2 года назад
I went to CES for one semester. There was such a lack of intelligent conversation, that I immediately stopped paying them and left. It is basically long distance learning, with a mentor who's already graduated from there that reads your work and says whether you pass or fail. Also, if you can prove that pre-tribulation rapture is incorrect, you will fail, because you just need to give the right answer. So, it is ultimately exactly what they hate in other places.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
Very interesting. Thank you for the insider's point of view.
@retrictumrectus1010
@retrictumrectus1010 2 года назад
If this an undergrad course? If yes, then that school is hopeless.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@@retrictumrectus1010 I think if this true at any level, then the school is hopeless.
@Pseudo-Jonathan
@Pseudo-Jonathan 2 года назад
I cannot stomach James white any longer and will no longer be listening to him. I personally identify with the reformed tradition, but he as an “apologist” focuses more on attacking people with ad hominem. He only cares about squeezing the Bible into his reformed Calvinist box, forsaking all deep study of the Bible in its cultural and historical context. To him anyone who dares have an opinion outside of the reformed dogmatic fundamentalism must be “following the world.” What a joke Don’t get me wrong. I would call myself a Calvinist. However I have noticed, especially within the reformed community, a complete disdain of studying the Bible within its ancient near eastern context. No no. The only hermeneutic that matters is Augustines, or Calvins, or Luther’s
@HerveyShmervy
@HerveyShmervy 2 года назад
Amen
@Christian_Maoist.
@Christian_Maoist. 2 года назад
Because they know an ancient collection of documents like the Bible doesn't completely work with their modern westerner understanding of the texts
@gaberau2479
@gaberau2479 2 года назад
^
@logospravda8951
@logospravda8951 2 года назад
Thanks for this reply. I find White an embarrassment to that tradition, which I hold, as well.
@Pseudo-Jonathan
@Pseudo-Jonathan 2 года назад
@@logospravda8951 I feel like he’s gotten worse over time. He didn’t always used to be this way.
@Cataphract3
@Cataphract3 2 года назад
Loved your point about accountability. This is one big issue I have with fear based religion in America. It inevitably ends up trying to avoid all accountability in their churches schools and families and as we have seen when there is no accountability abuse of all varieties flourishes.
@EdwardEarl
@EdwardEarl 2 года назад
15 credits of video games😂🤣🤣 That was absolutely hilarious 😭😀
@TzadiJames
@TzadiJames 2 года назад
Good video. Mr. White is a professional at two things. 1) Muddying the waters 2) Building strawmen Every debate I have seen him in, the opponent has always presented provable facts and logical analysis of those facts. White then proceeds to deflect and introduce points that are not directly related to the topic. Then at some point in the debate he begins to make veiled insults against his opponent. This makes him look "intelligent" to those that do not think critically about the information being presented The 10 points you went over are another proof that James White should NOT be listened to.
@TzadiJames
@TzadiJames 2 года назад
@@BiblicalTeachings We all fail when it comes to Glorifying Adonai and honouring the Biblical text; we forget our duty is to disciple others in the truth. Mr. White takes to a whole new level though.
@pleaseenteraname1103
@pleaseenteraname1103 Год назад
I disagree, Watch his debate with Dan Barker or his debates I should say, or his debate with Bart Ehrman. He in my opinion is one of the Best Christian debaters. Now that being said I am very disappointing to see this from somebody like him. I don’t know what you’re talking about he’s very respectful and he tries his best to steal man is opponents positions, he never resorts to personal attacks not in any debate I’ve seen, he can be pretty condescending sometimes, but that’s usually when he’s doing his other videos not an actual debates, and he always comes prepared.
@marvalice3455
@marvalice3455 Год назад
@@pleaseenteraname1103 "he tries his best to steal man his opponents position" If this is true, then he is an extremely shoddy metal worker.
@pleaseenteraname1103
@pleaseenteraname1103 Год назад
@@marvalice3455 I disagree I think he’s a good debater. He can be a little condescending on his show sometimes, but overall when he does debates he’s very professional and I haven’t seen him just completely blatantly misrepresent his opponents positions.
@marvalice3455
@marvalice3455 Год назад
@@pleaseenteraname1103 perhaps I am conflating a bit, because I don't see much value in debate. I suppose, most of what I have seen was his show.
@warrior_of_the_most_high
@warrior_of_the_most_high 2 года назад
🤯 Red Flags are all over James White's bald head (insult is not intended).
@soundmin
@soundmin 2 года назад
Thank you for the information Dr Falk. I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I am in the last Semester for my Masters Degree at Calvin Theological Seminary. I took many of these variables into consideration when choosing a Seminary to attend. I would however say that a degree does not necessarily make someone a good theologian and definitely does not make someone a good pastor or preacher. Charles Spurgeon for example had no formal education but to this day is considered to be one of the greatest preachers to have ever lived and many of his writings are used by some of the best Universities and Seminaries. It would have been wise for James White to choose a better Seminary for his doctoral studies, but based on some of the books he has written, he does seem to have a very good grasp on hermeneutics, systematic theology and Koine Greek. Thank you again for the info.
@soundmin
@soundmin 2 года назад
@@dannorris8478 thank you for the comment Dan. Homosexual marriage and transgenderism is sin according to the Bible, there is just no way around that if we want to be honest with the text. It seems as though more and more universities are moving in that direction because it is the way of the world. I guess we should not be surprised by this. Likewise, a PhD does not mean that someone conforms to the truth or even has eyes to see the truth. Dr. Bart Ehrman for example has his PhD from Princeton Seminary, but he is an apostate and is either unwilling un unable to see the truth in Scripture.
@philotheoapolobrendon4207
@philotheoapolobrendon4207 Год назад
What is your opionion on national accreditation (e.g. Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools (TRACS) Accreditation Commission) vs a Regional accreditation (E.g. Western Association of Schools and colleges -WASC) for basic theology/apologetic degrees?
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible Год назад
Regional accreditation is better than TRACS, but TRACS isn't bad either. Both accreditation organizations will give an educational institution quality control.
@Pseudo-Jonathan
@Pseudo-Jonathan 2 года назад
For those here that are thinking of going to study the Bible. If you have great personal foundation in your faith, you don’t need to be afraid of secular or liberal institutions. Often at many of these places you’ll still find conservative Christians. If you’re up for it, I would say to challenge yourself! We need more christians going to secular or liberal institutions. What kind of influence will we have academically (and for that matter culturally), if we only group up in our own conservative evangelical schools? Thats basically giving secularists in academia the win. It's also a good opportunity for outreach and evangelism. So, if academically and financially permitting, apply to places like Princeton theological seminary, or Duke divinity school! Why not you know?
@calebjore3295
@calebjore3295 2 года назад
This! We need more conservative Christians teaching at public universities. Your best shot at this is to get a degree from a secular institution.
@kristospheros
@kristospheros 2 года назад
This is something that my son is considering as he prepares to start college in 2023. It might be comforting/edifying to attend a Christian college for undergraduate, but if your call is to the academy should you opt to go elsewhere? Perhaps this is more of a graduate level concern?
@Pseudo-Jonathan
@Pseudo-Jonathan 2 года назад
@@kristospheros I would agree that graduate level education will be more important for a future academic career. Many prominent biblical scholars today actually have there bachelors from Christian schools. Not just in biblical studies, but most studies, you definitely want to get your graduate and post graduate degrees from a secular institution. At least if you want a shot to teach at prominent institution. (There are also many Christian professors and students and secular colleges). And you’ll find many Christian groups and clubs. Be plugged in to a local church. He’ll be fine
@kristospheros
@kristospheros 2 года назад
@@Pseudo-Jonathan I attended a small, non-religious institution (very nominally Presbyterian) for undergraduate and a large Southern Baptist seminary for MDiv (with some state university graduate studies sprinkled in there as well). If I had to do it again, I might reverse that order. I am actually gearing up for doctoral work at the ripe age of 45 and have the same struggle regarding sacred and secular.
@calebjore3295
@calebjore3295 2 года назад
@@kristospheros I'm also going to be starting college in 2023. I'm planning on going to a secular university but getting involved with Christian clubs/organizations/etc. on campus. If you're called to the academy, your choice of university will depend on your field of study. I want to study mathematics, which is a neutral field and won't be taught any differently at a Christian university. Thus, I will go to a secular university for cost/academic reasons. Different fields, like biblical studies, might be more complicated. However, as long as someone is firm in their faith and is able to contact Christian experts to talk things through, I think a secular university would be best for grad school.
@DeanLynn2k24
@DeanLynn2k24 2 года назад
Will Merneith be lecturing anywhere in states? My German Shepard is just getting in to apologetics....
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
I'm okay with her doing a lecture tour as long as she doesn't go clubbing with Mr. Empty Conjecture. That sock's a bad influence.
@Cataphract3
@Cataphract3 2 года назад
Bring her on for the next Q&A
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@@Cataphract3 Okay, she'll be there.
@ZacharyTLawson
@ZacharyTLawson 2 года назад
3:46 Just to shed some light, DTS, Calvin, and Talbott would not be live options as “conservative” schools for James White. He considers Fuller (Fuller!) as liberal. Also, DTS is dis-- 🤢 dispensational. The point is well taken but better examples would be Westminster or Gordon Conwell. (edit: to clarify, I meant "liberal" as in "theologically liberal". If you read Fuller's "What We Believe And Teach" page, you'll see they are practically backwoods bible-thumpers when compared to, say, Union or Harvard.)
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
The point is that there are many conservative options even for an over the top Calvinist.
@ZacharyTLawson
@ZacharyTLawson 2 года назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible Especially nowadays! I get so many recruiting emails in my inbox. Maybe I should start forwarding them to AOMIN...
@Frodojack
@Frodojack 2 года назад
Fuller isn't necessary liberal, but it is woke. Very woke. A lot of Critical Race Theory and intersectionality have infected its classes. Same for Calvin College.
@JD-np5xq
@JD-np5xq 2 года назад
Uh... Fuller *is* very liberal.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@@JD-np5xq Yes, Fuller is very liberal. And yet, that's where White earned his last legitimate degree, an MA.
@swiftsea6225
@swiftsea6225 2 года назад
Hey do you think the University of Arizona or Arizona Christian University are good schools for studying Biblical Studies?
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
I can't answer that question. I don't know either school well enough to answer if they are good at Biblical studies. Perhaps, after you watch the rest of the videos in this series, you can tell me. 😉
@matthewjames9209
@matthewjames9209 Год назад
I had heard about this prior to listening to the show. Was wondering if James White had any credentials? Such as a BA or MA.
@marksir100
@marksir100 2 года назад
It has to stop! LOL great episode thanks.
@textscholar3775
@textscholar3775 Год назад
Would a degree need to be both sacs and ats accredited or is sacs only sufficient?
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible Год назад
SACS is a regional accrediting agency. Regional accreditation has generally higher standards in the USA than ATS. So, SACS should be more than sufficient.
@textscholar3775
@textscholar3775 Год назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible Thanks!
@recoveringknowitall1534
@recoveringknowitall1534 5 месяцев назад
@20.33. great point. My understanding is that a phd dissertation is supposed to be adding to the knowledge base of the field. Contributing to the furtherance of the info or understanding of all. if the dissertations are 'privated' or not shared publicly, they are not fulfilling this purpose. they're basically "book reports" to the school alone.
@philipps6032
@philipps6032 2 года назад
Dr. Falk, what date do you hold for the composition of the book of Daniel?
@pleaseenteraname1103
@pleaseenteraname1103 Год назад
I’m disappointing to see this from somebody like James White he’s had a pretty good track record over the years, and when I was first getting into the atheist versus Christian debate topic, I watched many of his debates.
@Scott23882
@Scott23882 11 месяцев назад
It is easily done a lot of people add lies on their CV and it is believed because it is written down
@Christian_Maoist.
@Christian_Maoist. 2 года назад
This was beyond great. I've been waiting for someone to take narcissistic James White down a peg; you're becoming a true national treasure Dr Falk 😂
@charliedontsurf334
@charliedontsurf334 2 года назад
We in the US might have to steal him away from Canada. ;p
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@@charliedontsurf334 Oh please do. I would love to return to the USA.
@marieindia8116
@marieindia8116 2 года назад
There was a carpenter whose followers didn't go to any accredited rabbinic school... and did just fine 😉 without resorting to dishonest appearances.
@thepalegalilean
@thepalegalilean 2 года назад
Nobody is being dishonest here, Marie. Also, Jesus did receive a rabbinic education. That's why he was called a rabbi instead first place.
@marieindia8116
@marieindia8116 2 года назад
@@thepalegalilean oh really, where in the Bible does it state that he went to Rabbinic school? Everyone called him the carpenter. He was called Rabbi 12 times because in the first century it meant "Teacher", something he became very famous for... Not because he was approved by a school. Even his cousin John the Baptist was recorded as being called Rabbi once. That doesn't mean he went to a special school either. Please read John 7:14,15 to see the facts.
@thepalegalilean
@thepalegalilean 2 года назад
@@marieindia8116 At this time, being a teacher required you to have been a student under another teacher. So you're just wrong here. Secondly, the people he was preaching to in John 7 wanted to see him dead. So his audience was very hostile. They probably saw a controversial apocalyptic preacher as being uneducated. So this is hardly an unbiased summation of Jesus's education. A better criteria to find that out would be his enemies. When the Pharasees and Saducees argue with Jesus, they call him Rabbi. This is very interesting because these men are actual and educated rabbis. So even the enemies of Christ took him as being an educated rabbi every bit their equal. There's a very strong case that can be made to come tobthe conclusion that Jesus was educated in a rabbinic school.
@marieindia8116
@marieindia8116 2 года назад
@@thepalegalilean You are speculating on what Rabbi meant in the first century without proof. Matthew 13:54-56, the people in his synagogue were puzzled as to how Jesus got his teaching skill. Those people should have known if he went to a higher school. Mark 6:2 echoes the same event, still no mention of rabbinical training. Luke 2:46,47 happened when Jesus was 12 years old. He certainly wasn't at an age yet to go to such a school but was already amazing the teachers at the temple, who would be unlikely to be "amazed" if they knew about him already. He was called Rabbi because simply he was the greatest Teacher ever known. How? Because Pharisees, Sadducees and scribes taught him what he knew? Like Paul, did Jesus give credit to an earthly professor? Hardly. Luke 10:22 and its parallel scriptures tell us he got everything from his Father, God. John 12:49, 50. Because of this singular qualification officers who were sent to arrest him came back empty handed with only the report that no one had ever spoken like Jesus before. John 7:46. Jesus was able to teach his followers his methods, and they also were helped by holy spirit to speak and teach in a uniquely superior way that identified the source. Acts 4:13. Could it be that archeologists will find a diploma with Jesus' name on it? Could beeeeeee.....🧟‍♂️🧔
@tylerx099
@tylerx099 2 года назад
I go to a Church of Christ based Bible college. After going over what you said in the past about Bible colleges I made sure mine was accredited and it is. I notice this too that even though we are an evangelical school, some of the teachers are not afraid to go over controversial topics and they let the students decide if it’s accurate or not. I remember my first year that we talked about the DH and the instructor encouraged us to think twice about what it says and how we can face it without telling us. I even saw Digital Hammurabi’s book in my schools library along with Mark Smith and many others.
@ccrwm
@ccrwm 2 года назад
Where do you attend?
@tylerx099
@tylerx099 2 года назад
@@ccrwm Heritage Christian University
@MurraySwe
@MurraySwe 2 года назад
Didn't know this about James White. Guess I better stop calling him Dr.
@jjm6010
@jjm6010 2 года назад
31:37 Whoa. I wasn't expecting the "s" bomb. lol
@TheChurchSplit
@TheChurchSplit 2 года назад
After recent events - this is the perfect description of White’s “scholarship”
@truthisbeautiful7492
@truthisbeautiful7492 2 года назад
Glad you corrected the error in your original video. It appears your argument is that the degree from CES doesn't meet what you consider the standards of PhD from an accredited school. It is interesting that you argue that White is ignorant about it, but then it appears you are able to move to White's motives. I will assume the best of both of you, and your book is still on my bucket list. I've read the forgotten Trinity, it's a great book. Much simpler then The God who Justifies.
@frogpaste
@frogpaste 2 года назад
Hey, Dr. Falk. I found your video educational and insightful. However, I did want to point out that James White is currently enrolled in a Textual Criticism PhD program at Northwest University in South Africa. I believe the dissertation he's working on is on the Gospel of Mark.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
He may be enrolled, but he hasn't yet finished his PhD. Until he does, he is still stealing the honour of those who have earned it. It's like a jewel theif who puts a downpayment on a diamond ring, but continues to steal jewelry until he pays for the ring.
@frogpaste
@frogpaste 2 года назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible Very well said, sir!
@Pseudo-Jonathan
@Pseudo-Jonathan 2 года назад
Wasn’t that announced 5 years ago? I’m wondering where he is at currently in that. Has he said anything on it yet?
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@@Pseudo-Jonathan Five years is not an inordinate amount of time for a PhD. Some have dragged on nearly 20 years, although a lot of schools no longer permit that.
@frogpaste
@frogpaste 2 года назад
@@Pseudo-Jonathan He had said he was waiting on the CBGM release of the Mark manuscript genealogy, which they just recently published, as I understand. He got his copy a few weeks or a couple of months ago, and did a video on Mark 1:1.
@samueltomjoseph4775
@samueltomjoseph4775 2 года назад
Please tell me this isn't your popcorn review. Gotta have more fun than this.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
Not my popcorn review. Popcorn is yet to come.
@Frodojack
@Frodojack 2 года назад
Dr. Falk cleaning house. I love it!
@charliedontsurf334
@charliedontsurf334 2 года назад
It's a bummer to hear that he really does not know his stuff. While I am much more of a Molinist or Arminian in my theological views, what is a good resource on Calvinist theology? I get the feeling that the TULIP acronym is a bit oversimplified.
@widsith4122
@widsith4122 2 года назад
Look up Sproul's series called "What Is Reformed Theology?". He goes through each letter in TULIP showing you the oversimplified misconceptions.
@JD-np5xq
@JD-np5xq 2 года назад
19:23 Where did you get the claim that CES only requires "five pages" for its doctoral dissertations? Everything I'm seeing in their academic catalog says a dissertation requires between 30-60 thousand words (120-240 pages) and 50+ citations, which is also what you put on the screen.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
It's in Armstrong's article and appears to have been their requirements in 2004. I included their current standards, which are better but still atrocious.
@JD-np5xq
@JD-np5xq 2 года назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible I checked in the CES catalog for the 2003-2004 academic year through the Wayback Machine and the minimum for a doctoral dissertation is still 120 pages. Interestingly the Student Handbook from 2001 (the earliest date the website was available and the closest date to when White received his degree) sets the minimum at 200 pages for a doctoral dissertation (actually the entire 2001 Student Handbook is an interesting read for those curious what the standards actually were at the time). I have found no evidence that CES would have accepted a 5 page dissertation at any point in its history. The minimum for the term paper required for each individual class seems to consistently be 15 pages. The thesis for a bachelor's degree in 2001 required 50 pages.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@@JD-np5xq I will make an errata in the description section.
@NickQuient
@NickQuient 2 года назад
Also: where would one get a degree from Royal University of Woolton on the Mersey?
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
It's a great little school located in a bistro... 😂😂😂
@randomusername5242
@randomusername5242 2 года назад
I like it, sounds very British.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@Yvonne Yup, that's the same Woolton. It was the village I lived in when I earned my PhD.
@AllThingsChristian
@AllThingsChristian 3 месяца назад
Do you have a link to where White made these defense arguments?
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 3 месяца назад
You can find a link to his arguments in the description.
@pleaseenteraname1103
@pleaseenteraname1103 Год назад
25:25 i’m pretty sure Columbia theological seminary is accredited now. If I’m not mistaken. And most of his reasons for not getting it the traditional way are incredibly prideful. Also it doesn’t make any sense is that one of his exclamations was because there wasn’t a good conservative institution who could’ve got it at. But he decided to get his MA at Fuller?
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible Год назад
Columbia Evangelical Seminary (not to be confused with Columbia Theological Seminary) remains unaccredited. The school remains in every practical sense a diploma mill.
@pleaseenteraname1103
@pleaseenteraname1103 Год назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible Oh OK my bad. Thank you for your reply Dr.
@alexandria1663
@alexandria1663 Год назад
Man this is so embarrassing. I’m glad I found this out before I recommended him as a resource to any of my atheist friends, I’d never hear the end of it.
@HyperFocusMarshmallow
@HyperFocusMarshmallow 2 года назад
19:30 Their standard was: “A thesis has to be no less than 5 pages”. - I mean, most undergrads write more than that on a 2 week-hand in that gives a tiny bit of partial credit in a halftime course. That standard is just bonkers for anything, but for a so called PhD thesis it’s just insane. And to not even publish them publicly. If this is true, just wow!
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
To be fair, I made a correction (see the errata in the description) that their standard was in fact a minimum 120 pages for a PhD. But that is still bonkers. Most PhDs are a minimum 350 pages. There is no way that CES's standards qualify as a "doctorate." It is a master's thesis at best. And it is true that their theses are still not published publicly, which is a travesty. Pathetically, substandard.
@HyperFocusMarshmallow
@HyperFocusMarshmallow 2 года назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible Oh, thank! Good that I included the caveat, ”If this is true”. 😊 When it comes up to 120> and those kind of numbers I think it’s more a matter of the actual content. In topics, e.g. math and physics etc. you can state a lot more with fewer symbols, so it might not blow up as much. I’m not very familiar with how that plays out in other fields.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@@HyperFocusMarshmallow In the humanities (which theology is a part of), most PhD dissertations tend to be around 100,000 words. So a 30,000 word thesis is still well below par. That might be acceptable in the sciences because it is supplemented by years of lab work, but it is unacceptable in the humanities.
@HyperFocusMarshmallow
@HyperFocusMarshmallow 2 года назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible That would have been my guess as well. Makes sense!👍😊
@WTL
@WTL 2 года назад
#7 - curriculum of video games and slacking off 🤣👏 Love it! 👌
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
Yeah, I kind of wish that was my curriculum right now. 😁
@TheEngineerd
@TheEngineerd 2 года назад
18:23 Wow, I just graduated with a terminal degree and didn't realize it. Nice. Once again, I feel like Howard Wolowitz from The Big Bang Theory who "only" has a master degree. And it's in engineering. 😅
@damiandziedzic23
@damiandziedzic23 2 года назад
So the video is a summary of what Dave Armstrong (a catholic apologist) said James White (a protestant apologist) claimed or said?
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
I responded to White's reasons, not his exact words, since Armstrong is much more concise than White himself. Keep in mind I'm not anti-Calvinist. I am, however, very much anti-fake-degree.
@michelleklein3056
@michelleklein3056 2 года назад
Thank you for the honest and thorough assessment of the 10 points. I do believe the phrase, "Mic drop" is applicable here ;o)
@approvedofGod
@approvedofGod 3 месяца назад
Very good video. I do not have a doctorate of any sort, although I did get a Masters Degree in Education at the University of Texas. This is an accredited University and the testing was not easy. With what I learned in this video, I am proud to have earned my degree.
@euanthompson
@euanthompson Год назад
I don't know about the US, but in the UK all the accreditation is done by institutions you would be expecting to join after you finish your qualification. The government isn't involved at all. So in the case of theology degrees they are all accredited by one or more of the major denominations of Christianity for example. Unless you have a weird system over there in America and/or Canada, I have no idea what this accreditation thing is a complaint about.
@randomango2789
@randomango2789 2 года назад
It says on his Wikipedia that he received his BA at Grand Canyon University and his MA at Fuller Theological Seminary. Those are real colleges
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
There is nothing wrong with his BA and MA. But having a legitimate BA/MA does not mean he has a legitimate ThD/PhD. The problem is his ThM, ThD, and DMin.
@darrenh8111
@darrenh8111 2 года назад
Damm who knew that James White has a fake degree, he such a good debater and grate speaker, I guess it's true, bulls..t talks and money talks, and James seems to be full of both
@williamcassidy7618
@williamcassidy7618 2 года назад
Hold on...did you actually say “That’s pride talking” whilst describing something James White has said? That’s outrageous!...😏
@gospelfreak5828
@gospelfreak5828 2 года назад
That’s just shameful. He should repent instead of defending his stealing. Cuz that’s what this is. He took what did not belong to him. You can’t justify stealing because you think you’re better than everyone else (very prideful) and because it may be expensive
@retrictumrectus1010
@retrictumrectus1010 2 года назад
He did not steal it, he bought it! 😂
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@@retrictumrectus1010 He bought the piece of paper, but stole the title and honour.
@ApologeticsBenJoiner
@ApologeticsBenJoiner 2 года назад
Let me get something straight here. Did James White do his PhD work and just give himself a passing grade?
@Pseudo-Jonathan
@Pseudo-Jonathan 2 года назад
basically lol. He's not a legit DR at all.
@ApologeticsBenJoiner
@ApologeticsBenJoiner 2 года назад
It sounds like CES is a school that has no reputation for knowing anything about the subjects it teaches. If that's the case, then why claim you have a degree? The purpose of obtaining a degree is because it gives you a reputation as credible. You can study and learn without a degree, even from experts. But the degree is a piece of paper to prove to people what you know. If that degree comes from a school with no reputation, then the degree gives no credibility to you. So why claim a degree from an institution that has no reputation? James White is no different from someone who studied and never got a piece of paper to prove it. In other words, why does he describe himself with the term "Dr." when it grants him nothing due to the type of school he attended? The most likely explanation is that he hopes people will just assume he has a normal degree and grant him the credibility of a normal degree. It seems clear that he wants the credibility that can only logically come from the reputation of a normal school. But he doesn't actually have a degree from such a school. There may be a group of people who highly respect CES. And in that circle, the degree does give credibility. But if I had done what he did, I would feel compelled to drop the letters before or after my name. Or I would use some unique and different letters to keep from misleading people.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@@ApologeticsBenJoiner It's even worse than that because the "PhD" is actually the person that is created by the educational process, not the piece of paper. By buying a piece of paper instead of going through the process, White (as a PhD) does not exist at all.
@deusvult2302
@deusvult2302 2 года назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible his personal cess pool is so deep, that all his disgusting videos have comments and likes permanently disabled. He is the most arrogant fraud ever!
@alexwarstler9000
@alexwarstler9000 2 года назад
@@deusvult2302 He was playing the RU-vid game before RU-vid.
@gingernutpreacher
@gingernutpreacher 3 месяца назад
Is his degree at fuller OK or accredited?
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 3 месяца назад
His MA from Fuller is totally bon fide. It was the last legitimate degree he earned.
@gingernutpreacher
@gingernutpreacher 3 месяца назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible so did he under go peer review for it (I'm dyslexic so never lernt how it works) I posted this vid on seortiogy 101 a free days ago as a possible explanation of why James white can not take critic. His behaviour the last few weeks has been terrible where he has clearly gotten something wrong but insted of saying I got that wrong I rushed the last few words of my debate I Kent to say this then brings up ariost in further dividing line vids the he gaslights Dr krokyto saying I never said that in the debate and says its a terrible thing to do ie point out his errors
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 3 месяца назад
@@gingernutpreacher > so did he under go peer review for it It depends upon whether he wrote a thesis for his MA and whether a subject matter expert was available to evaluate it. Most Masters degrees today no longer require a thesis in order to graduate. So, it is by no means guaranteed. > (I'm dyslexic so never lernt how it works) That's fine. We're here to educate. > I posted this vid on seortiogy 101 a free days ago as a possible explanation of why James white can not take critic. He's insecure about his knowledge and his credentials. I don't think that's a good trait in a Christian leader. > His behaviour the last few weeks has been terrible where he has clearly gotten something wrong but insted of saying I got that wrong I rushed the last few words of my debate I Kent to say this then brings up ariost in further dividing line vids the he gaslights Dr krokyto saying I never said that in the debate and says its a terrible thing to do ie point out his errors White often resorts to the "don't criticize me because it would reflect badly on Christ" canard, as if Christ really needs us. We will all be dead and gone and the Faith will continue on just fine without us. We are all nothing but worthless servants and dust in the wind.
@ysobel14517
@ysobel14517 2 года назад
Alright, boys, pull out those PhD degrees and let's measure them! 😜
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
There's nothing to measure. White has no real PhD.
@cmbtheambassador5773
@cmbtheambassador5773 2 года назад
Great observations, Dr Falk.
@terilien6124
@terilien6124 2 года назад
Even terence tao, the worlds best mathematician, says there are areas of math he could improve in
@jaskitstepkit7153
@jaskitstepkit7153 2 года назад
James is the kind of guy to say that Degree fraud is not a sin in the Bible so there's nothing wrong with it. Who needs to study when the holy spirit is inside you. 😎👌
@HaecceitasQuidditas
@HaecceitasQuidditas 2 года назад
The last sentence doesn't sound like anything that James White would be likely to say.
@501Mobius
@501Mobius 2 года назад
Aren't degrees in established religions about old knowledge? How do you develop new knowledge in theology?
@cerealbowl7038
@cerealbowl7038 2 года назад
Modern scholars such as Walton and Heiser are advancing our knowledge far beyond what was known before. The Golden Age of Hermeneutics is now.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
You can do this becease religions are complex and every detail of these old religions remains to be explored.
@Mw-mo2wg
@Mw-mo2wg 2 года назад
Because now you can go over what theologians in the past got right or wrong. For instance it seems Augustine slanders pelagius Ali Bonner’s phd dissertation on Pelagius which was put into a book. shows pretty well that out of the surviving works of Pelegius he doesn’t actually teach the 14 things he was anathematized for. Augustine even says it’s unimportant in a letter if Pelagius actually taught those things the ideas where bad. So you have Augustine wrongly accusing a man and for 1600 years we’ve essentially bought into a myth. Things are by no means settled.
@1000cleverboy
@1000cleverboy 2 года назад
Great job! I loved the part where you got your rabbit the same degree as White! Lol
@1000cleverboy
@1000cleverboy 2 года назад
@@dannorris8478 lol. What a joke. Just like James White's degree.
@slimm2k466
@slimm2k466 2 года назад
Hi Dr.Falk what's your opinions on Trinity college of the bible and seminary? Are they accredited or is it the same situation as where James White attended?
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
TCBS is not accredited and has had a past reputation as a degree mill. They have responded that this is unfair because they have changed their ways. But my search for evidence to verify that has not been successful. And they still have red flags that are problematic, such as, a large number of their faculty earned their terminal degrres at TCBS and not making their grading standards public (or easy to find).
@slimm2k466
@slimm2k466 2 года назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible Thanks for taking the time to respond. I seen that Dr. Leighton Flowers from the Soteriology101 channel recommended it and I believe teaches there so I thought maybe it was legit. Do you have any recommendations for a good Seminary? Rather in person or online. Thanks again
@jessecamping
@jessecamping 2 года назад
Thank you Dr Falk!
@lohikaarmeherra-1753
@lohikaarmeherra-1753 2 года назад
Interesting similarity between Kent Hovind an James White. One apologist is very much like annother.
@mdc8698
@mdc8698 2 года назад
Actually White's CES unaccredited degree(s) are old news recently revived.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
Indeed, it is old news, but it is still a problem. If a man cheats on his wife for 20 years, it may be old news but it is still a moral failing. Alpha and Omega Ministries has been aware that CES is a degree mill for 20 years, and yet it allows White to call himself "doctor." The fact it is old news doesn't make it better. It actually makes matters worse. Because here we have a guy who knew his degrees were fraudulent, carry on calling himself "doctor" the entire time. That is a moral failing, and a long-standing moral failing. Unrepentant moral failings don't go away with time--they simply multiply.
@mdc8698
@mdc8698 2 года назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible Agreed!
@Fiscacondaniel
@Fiscacondaniel 2 года назад
I love the title
@LANDRYPHYNO
@LANDRYPHYNO 2 года назад
Thanks for this information Dr Falk-GBY
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
My pleasure!!! 😄
@MorganFreemansFavoriteFreckle
@MorganFreemansFavoriteFreckle 2 года назад
I have to say, while Dr.White seems to have done some good evangelization and defense of the faith, he’s always rubbed me the wrong way. His style of communication is off-putting in the same way as Zacharias’s was. It’s nice to hear my reservations somewhat validated by other Christians.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
I will agree he has done some good evangelization. However, this is an area where he needs to work on his character so that it does not compromise his witness.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@@dannorris8478 This channel does not permit spamming of messages. If you continue to do that, you will be blocked.
@retrictumrectus1010
@retrictumrectus1010 2 года назад
If Dr. White fans see this, I am afraid for your life😂
@pleaseenteraname1103
@pleaseenteraname1103 Год назад
I’m a white fan and I think most of his points were valid.
@user-tb2vc3gd5w
@user-tb2vc3gd5w 2 года назад
James White is called "dr" by a new seminary GBTS (Grace Baptist), who either are aware of his phony degree and are ignoring it because they don't have the spine to have standards among "friends," or they are ignorant of it and should be informed. Either way, someone should reach out. . .
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
I think the whole letting "friends" get a free pass is a real issue inside Christian leadership. We've let immoral behaviour slide for too long, by saying nothing. I don't think we need to pursue this by reaching out to GBTS. But at least something needs to be said. 1 Peter 2:17, "For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God, and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?" We judge ourselves first, so that our preaching the Gospel will mean something when spoken to the world.
@user-tb2vc3gd5w
@user-tb2vc3gd5w 2 года назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible I completely agree. There's a cult of desire for authority and accolades in many denominations and churches, and fake degrees and titles and passing off positions to friends, and nepotism, etc. etc. are a symptom of it. Of course, our networks are our networks, and there is nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't mean standards should slip because of it - in fact, we should be double rigorous within networks for such things, removing all conflicts of interest, in order to ensure integrity. By the way Dr. Falk, I'm the one who emailed you that blog-post (under my full name).
@KoneKlubKult
@KoneKlubKult 2 года назад
God Bless you Dr. Falk, you are legend.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
As are you Smokey, or should I say Vladimir? 🤣
@KoneKlubKult
@KoneKlubKult 2 года назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible 🤣🤣🤣
@Cataphract3
@Cataphract3 2 года назад
Oh man youre gonna get crap from this from the James White trolls. The dudes such a narcissist these days. Great vid!
@spiderb3367
@spiderb3367 2 года назад
It’s simple. You come at James White with that fire, I hit subscribe.
@wolfgangallanalhazred802
@wolfgangallanalhazred802 2 года назад
No wonder his website and understanding of history and religions are so embarrassing.
@stephenthompson9722
@stephenthompson9722 2 года назад
I found it a bit painful watching Dr White pick apart Mike Wingers videos. We will never have full agreement on some secondary Christian issues.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
No unfortunately we won't have agreement there. But I dream that we one day can mature to the point where we can truly understand and celebrate our differences on the secondary issues. It is a dream that I have.
@J40JesusIsLord
@J40JesusIsLord 8 месяцев назад
I used to be a big fan of James White and thought it was good when he went to join Apologia, then all the sudden he gets tatted up like he's in a gang! Things like that and this expose really make me not want to refer anyone to his work-although I do respect the proper spirit he has when engaging muslims.
@gingernutpreacher
@gingernutpreacher 3 месяца назад
When did he get his tattoo and I did think it was a messy blob
@retrictumrectus1010
@retrictumrectus1010 2 года назад
I don't understand. Did "Dr." White buy his diploma without submitting a dissertation or did he submit a dissertation but without scrutiny? I believe you have to go to the process to get a degree! He is basically deceiving us! IMO, you get a legitimate degree if you submit a thesis/dissertation that got advised and then passed from the scrutiny of the panel, aside from the credits you earn.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
Mr White bought his degree by submitting a substandard dissertation that was only approved by the president of the school--no legitimate PhD is handled this way. Diploma mills often have token work requirements to deflect criticism from the fact they are selling something worthless. Kent Hovind's pigsty of a "PhD" dissertation was handled in a very similar mamner. To this day, CES's PhD dissertation requirement is no better than a Master's thesis--this is shockingly below par.
@Christian_Maoist.
@Christian_Maoist. 2 года назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible Have you seen """"Dr"""" Kent Honvid's PhD dissertation? An atheist RU-vidr read it on a livestream and it was riddled with grammar errors and basically boiled down to "The Bible teaches YEC and evolution is a satanic religion that I am compelled to stop!!!!" It's beyond parody 😂
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@@Christian_Maoist. I used to have a copy of it. It's quite an impressive work, but not in a good way. 🤣🤣🤣
@pleaseenteraname1103
@pleaseenteraname1103 Год назад
I disagree because I recall him doing an article in around 2005 on this particular topic, and he fully acknowledged that he did not get a PhD in a traditional way.
@DigitalGnosis
@DigitalGnosis 2 года назад
Next up discuss Braxton Hunters Trinity Evangelical schools unaccredited degrees!
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
I have not looked into TBCS's recent changes to their standards, but I know people who work there and they say there have been many improvements. They used to be dreadful. But today, I don't know. If the rigour is present, a school can provide a quality education without being accredited. Accreditation is all about quality control. Quality can be achieved without accreditation, but it is a lot less likely to happen because there is no accountability.
@Pseudo-Jonathan
@Pseudo-Jonathan 2 года назад
Could you define what you think “good apologetics” are? Genuine question since on your channel I see you criticize what you call “bad apologetics”
@SG-hd1qg
@SG-hd1qg 2 года назад
What do you think of Liberty University
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
I think you can get a quality education there, so long as you realize you're only going to get a fundamentalist perspective.
@SG-hd1qg
@SG-hd1qg 2 года назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible I go to school run by Benedictine monks and some are ultra traditional and others are liberal it's a good mix
@timothyowen4503
@timothyowen4503 2 года назад
In my opinion Liberty can be as big a "degree mill" as CES. I know someone who "graduated" from their distance program with "honors" who's dumber than a bag of rocks. Have you heard of all the grade inflation going on? Just because a school is "accredited" doesn't make it any good.
@coolboxer384
@coolboxer384 2 года назад
“You will never know what you don’t know” I find even that statement to be true even in all lines of PHD programs. This video also just reminds me that “I’m better than you are because I have a REAL PHD and you don’t”. Too much pride even in this video!!!
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
Then I think you missed the point. I do not rubbish anyone who lacks a PhD and who is doing honest and faithful ministry for the Lord. Anyone who serves with humility and faith is a brother in Christ. This video is all about those who buy fake credentials and fraudulently promote themselves with the title of "doctor."
@pleaseenteraname1103
@pleaseenteraname1103 Год назад
I completely disagree, I don’t see how he’s being prideful at all I think he missed the point of the video.
@whatsinaname691
@whatsinaname691 2 года назад
That’s Calvin University to you, mister 😜
@MyImmaculateQueen
@MyImmaculateQueen Год назад
When choosing a Bible we must ignore the protestant Bibles and remember Luther removed 7 sacred books and altered other passages to suit his twisted, heretical view of Christianity. The Douay Rheims is the best Bible by far.
@ancienthistorygaming
@ancienthistorygaming 2 года назад
First Comment LOL
@ancienthistorygaming
@ancienthistorygaming 2 года назад
First Like as well.
@jessecamping
@jessecamping 2 года назад
@@ancienthistorygaming First to reply to yourself also!!! lol
@ancienthistorygaming
@ancienthistorygaming 2 года назад
@@jessecamping Yes LOL
@samueltomjoseph4775
@samueltomjoseph4775 2 года назад
Man!!!!! Did you talk to White about this?
@samueltomjoseph4775
@samueltomjoseph4775 2 года назад
Leave it, that was good stuff tho.
@retro-orthodox
@retro-orthodox 2 года назад
I would guess he didn’t. White would probably just respond by attacking Dr. Falk for working as a ‘commoner’ like he did Pallmann… which is what brought this all up in the first place.
@WhatYourPastorDidntTellYou
@WhatYourPastorDidntTellYou 2 года назад
@@retro-orthodox 💯💯💯
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@@retro-orthodox Yup, he called me a "yahoo" without ever engaging the issue.
@marieindia8116
@marieindia8116 2 года назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible I like Yahoo, its my favorite email service... 😅
@widdershins7628
@widdershins7628 2 года назад
Didn't think I could appreciate you more, Doc. As you said, "It's simony--plain and simple." I've always had a mistrust for White due to his dishonesty in citing history. Now I have had ratification of that mistrust, sadly. Anyway (as you'd say), thanks a million.
@chrisbmbm5629
@chrisbmbm5629 2 года назад
Pride comes before the fall. Muslims love JW.
@Beastinvader
@Beastinvader 2 года назад
This all reminds me of Kent Hovind. I think, to give them the benefit of the doubt, they don't know what they are missing out on. Someone like Hovind or White really think their doctorates are legitimate and really think they are on the same intellectual and academic level of their opponents. Thanks for the video. I always wondered what exactly it means to be accredited. It made me feel better about my own qualification.
@atyt11
@atyt11 7 месяцев назад
Hovind definitly has issues, it was sad when his tax shinanagins put him in jail longer than some murderers. All in all his heart was for God and one thing he taught was "eat the meat and spit out the bones". I did that with him and many teachings in life. White on the other hand is so detrimental to the gospel. His self pride, condescending attitude, PHD in strawmanning and just plain mean spirit is quite disgusting.
@annoyingdude76
@annoyingdude76 2 года назад
will your rabbit hold lectures? I'd listen to it rather than White
@jenkinsjenkins7052
@jenkinsjenkins7052 2 года назад
So, essentially we should get in debt for our degrees ORRRR leave college to the rich and elite. That is wonderful. Thanks Dr. you have really crushed my dreams and many other poor people who are struggling to survive
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
College is expensive. That's an unfortunate truth. But is fraud and stolen honour better? A car is expensive too. Is it right for me to steal a car?
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@@jameswillison1527 Indeed, compared to secular schools, Bible colleges are good value for the money.
@randomusername5242
@randomusername5242 2 года назад
If you're poor, getting a degree isnt going to help you get out of poverty. It's just going to put you in debt. Get into the trades.
@retrictumrectus1010
@retrictumrectus1010 2 года назад
This kind of thinking is TOXIC. What is wrong about leaving college to the rich and elite? Because it is "unfair"? That is toxicitism. Plus, if you really are intellectually qualified, universities will be the ones running for you and bait you by providing you scholarship with stipend (aka the rich enrolees subsidizes your tuition), because having a genius enrollee with a potential to produce breakthroughs could potentially boost their university standings, thus recruiting more rich kids to bankroll their talented faculty, and offer more scholarships to those deserving to have one.
@randomusername5242
@randomusername5242 2 года назад
@@retrictumrectus1010 It's an unfortunate byproduct of the decades effort by colleges to get as many people as possible enrolled.
@mr.lizard4966
@mr.lizard4966 2 года назад
Good stuff
@antoniomosley9410
@antoniomosley9410 2 года назад
So basically he's a fraud. And building people faiths on a sandy foundation or better yet building a sand castle on the beach and just begging the beach bully to come over and to stomp the sand castle down to the ground.
@christianbensel
@christianbensel 2 года назад
So your rabbit Merneith ate lots of your books. Which ones? Very funny!! Nobody paid me for doing my phd. I worked part time for 6 to 8 years. I just did it because I wanted to investigate my topic. There were no stipends or jobs in linguistics/philosophy.
@ccsniper
@ccsniper 2 года назад
Very co fused as to why this is a video? The subject matter you are referencing is a summary of another persons opinions on White's words that is 5 years old. Also you assume the need for formal education in an accredited school throughout as a basis of disagreement.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
No, I don't assume the need for a formal education. I am addressing a matter that still remains a problem in the Church. You don't need a formal education to pursue ministry. However, you should not claim to have a formal education if you did not pursue one. That's the point. It is lying about having a formal credential that you never earned or cheated by taking a shortcut. It's about fraud, not whether one has a formal education or not.
@kronos01ful
@kronos01ful 2 года назад
Sam shamoun will love this and also muslim!!!
@gordylee8421
@gordylee8421 2 года назад
James White is a brother. What’s up?
@Pseudo-Jonathan
@Pseudo-Jonathan 2 года назад
Fellow Christians are free from criticism?
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
He is a brother. But brothers don't get a free pass when they behave in a way that is wantonly sinful. After all, Scripture states that judgment begins in the house of God. If he is a brother, we are to point out his sin to call him back to correction. He pursued a fraudulent degree to steal the honour of those who had legitimately earned a doctorate degree. He needs to repent and refrain from using the title "doctor" until he earns a real terminal degree.
@DeJai237
@DeJai237 2 года назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible repent because he stole honour? 🤣😂🤣 the world has real problems.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 года назад
@@DeJai237 That's giving sin a free pass and giving consent to it. Yes, the world has real problems. But sin is still sin. Do we give Ravi Zacharias a free pass for his moral failings because there are greater problems in the world? Such thinking has led to the problems we have today inside the Church. If you compromise the lesser moral values, you are building a house on rotten foundation, a house that cannot stand.
@DeJai237
@DeJai237 2 года назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible “stealing honour?” Get out of here with that. He’s not going to hell for “stealing honour.”
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