Solo Zamorak GWD with the Bow of Faerdhinen (easy 6:0) 

How do u change it only for minions and not the boss? They all npcs

@@vilga same way you mark tiles but do it on the npc

@@themagickalmagickman bro this comment... no one explains this anywhere haha... thank you

@@themagickalmagickman thank you for this

@@themagickalmagickman you da man

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Hey! Do you mind sharing what is that plugin called, to turn off left clicks on certain monsters?

@@Boohitus Menu Entry Swapper

Literally same lol. Bandos clicked nearly instantly, but Kril was harder

have you seen the 6:0 bowfa method at bandos its super easy

i do think the bandos method feels a lot more natural and is the better one for learning. but they're both the same at their core

It's very punishing yeah. One mistake can easily cost you all your food, all I can say is to keep trying. Took me around 20-25 tries to get it.

@@felixjochems1238 any tips sometimes I miss click and get clocked

it would be nice to know exactly which tiles im supposed to be attacking on are. i thought i had them marked but now im doubting myself.

@@LactatingLuke Best tips I can give you is: click on him as soon as your in the last tile that is still "underneath" him. (Tag-all can help with this) and then also click three tiles before you reach the end. (The red tiles). So you shoot on the red tile, click the door/altar, wait until the last tile that's still underneath him, click the opposite red tile, wait until your 3 tiles before the next red tile (so a 2 tile gap) and attack, click on red tile and attack. Repeat ad nauseam, this works in both directions.

@@LactatingLuke true tile on altar clock 1.2.3 shoot door click 1.2.3 shoot tile click 1.2.3 shoot repeat

I’m 360ish kc, sotd 2 hilts and 8 steams. No spear lol

There actually already happens to be a link to the tilemarkers file in the description! :D Here's it again: pastebin.com/Nw4NVEPQ

@@GeChallengeM Oops, I'm so sorry! I completely missed that. Thank you so much.

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How did you lose 200k per death? You just run back and get all your gear...takes < 3 mins

@@hemz8058 Bc you have to pay when you get to your gravestone

@@jamieboer3466 what are you taking to lose that much?? My deaths are 15k in full gear.

@@hemz8058 normal person gear, 200k is a fairly cheap death. That's only 2 items 10m-100m

@@jamieboer3466 please explain what's expensive? You protect 3 items. 4 if you're worried about dieing and protect item. Then leftover items are ring of suffering, Ava's accumulator, peg boots, anguish, barrows gloves. Etc

Indeed, the attackspeed differs, making the method not work for Tbow. You can use the following method instead though: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iFzLdQgRKag.html

@@GeChallengeM Which of the two is more easy to learn? I'm practising the 5:0 however i just can't figure out when to hit kril at the start of the kill.

@@gamble0073 Instantly attack with a blowpipe hit, and then do the tbow hit. I *think* it still works if you did your blowpipe hit a tick late, but I'm not sure. I recommend doing the 5:0 tbow method because of the faster kills, but 6:0 bowfa is arguably easier to learn.

@@GeChallengeM Thanks it worked :)

The method relies on K'ril flinching off the bowfa hit you shot right before. There are specific requirements for it to work. If you do the method correctly, those requirements are always satisfied. But if you make a mistake once, K'ril will start hitting you every time you move out from under him... Unless you fix it. An explanation for how to fix it is given at 1:20.

Exactly 1 tick, but yes. Perhaps enabling true NPC tile markers can help with the timing. - Click K'ril right after he moved 1 tile - Click the altar right after he moved another tile (this is right when you see yourself shooting)

@@GeChallengeM Thank you!

Instantly click on him when he spawns. And 0.6 seconds later, click the altar. If that's too little reaction time for you, you can move the 2 tilematkers 1 tile towards the west. This allows (or rather, requires) you to do your first shot 0.6 seconds later.

@@GeChallengeM Ok, I got a good bit better with the timing of it with a few more attempts. Appreciate the reply regardless. Also, could that work with Bandos as well? I'm having a similar issue so far, not quite ready to give up, but just want to know if I can take the same advice and apply it there as well if need be. Thanks again for the amazing guides.

@@Keep701 Yes, the bandos method is very similar and that advice also applies there. Good luck!

Indeed, he has a 2/3 chance of doing melee and only a 1/3 chance of doing mage. My main goal was to avoid his YARRRRR special though, which can only occur when you are praying against melee. It's the hardest hitting attack. But if you look at the average damage taken instead of at maximum potential damage taken, then melee prayer is indeed better there.

@@GeChallengeM gotcha, ty!

Yes, that's possible :)

1) If you start the kill with a thrall already active, I can see it messing up the flinches. The thrall's first hitsplat is not allowed to appear before your first bofa's hitsplat. You can spawn the thrall slightly before K'ril respawns (or at any time after K'ril respawns), and then it should be fine. Keep in mind though that if you mess up the cycle, the thrall will likely cause you to not be able to get in cycle anymore. 2) The marked tiles are important since the shots from those tiles cause K'ril to flinch. The other attacks aren't needed to stay in the cycle. It's important though that the timing of the marker tiles' shots stay correct. Shooting a tick earlier or later from such tile ruins the cycle, since K'ril's position would not be correct and/or the shot wouldn't cause K'ril to flinch.

@@GeChallengeM ok, wonderful. Thank you for the clarification. So, regarding the tick cycle: Is it (starting at the first attack) 1 (shoot), 2, 3, 4, 1 (shoot)? Basically what I'm trying to ascertain is what the tick cycle count in my head should be... idk if this is the right question even.. but just feeling a bit lost regarding that part and this is my first time learning one of these methods.

@@dylanlalonde The important thing is to shoot once every 4 ticks (2.4 seconds). How you count it in your head is up to personal preference, your suggestion is an example of something that works. Once you get the rhythm down it should be easy.

There'd be too much confusion with additional tile markers IMO. Because it's hard to tell whether the marker is for eastwards or westwards movement. But you can try it if you want. I think it's easiest to just just be in the rhythm, attack every 4 ticks (= 2.4 seconds). Eyeballing is also possible. If running through zamy for example, you need to click zammy when you nearly get out of him.

@@GeChallengeM If only there was commentary your videos would be perfect. I'm having hard time understanding the information just by seeing it.

I like using true tile indicator for these methods, makes it easier. You can look at the true tile marker in this video, and/or use the plugin yourself, to get the timing down better. If you want really to watch the video while a metronome is ticking you can play a 100 bpm metronome video along with it. But I won't be uploading a video that has the metronome already included, sorry.

That doesn't work, because K'ril would start his flinch too early. So you would get hit after running through him. It is possible to incorporate a blowpipe spec though, if you do something similar as here for Graardor: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rvkytWBKzKU.html But it's quite tricky to do, easy to mess up. It's easier *and* better to do this method instead: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-muyx3_vXfVo.html It's better because you tank 3x fewer melee minion hits, and it's easier because you don't need quick clicks to incorporate the bowpipe spec.

Switching prayers doesn't help to fix it, but the boss can hit hard and it helps negate that damage. The attacks done before K'ril attacks you (while fixing a mistake) are completely optional and not necessary. It's just nice to not lose out on DPS. But yes, you can just stand there without attacking and be ready to red-X.

@@GeChallengeM Right on, thanks so much!

You can try set it up using the method at 1:19: 1) stand next to a tilemarker 2) start running through K'ril right after K'ril attacks you It's also possible to wait for K'ril to be east and then enter the room. Then time the first shot and movement perfectly. This allows you to set up the method without tanking any K'ril hits, but seems quite difficult to do because it's hard to tell what the right timing is.

@@GeChallengeM Thank you sir I appreciate your help!

Since Arma doesn't move when targetting him, there's no point in moving around, so I didn't make a guide for it. But you can try doing the following, each line is a tick/cycle: 1) click arma 2) click shield 3) click under arma 4) click fbow REPEAT It's possible to delay clicking the fbow until the next tick so you get hit less by the minions, but then you have to do multiple clicks on tick (1), which is effort.

This video is for 6:0, not for 8:0. To fix the cycle, you have to stand *next to* one of the end tiles, not on them. This is very important. And you click to run right as you see Krril attacking you.

@@GeChallengeM I ended up figuring it out but it took dying a few times til I got it lol. Thanks for responding to my comment! Good guides man!

3 ticks yes: on the first tick I activate my prayers, on the second tick I click K'ril, and on the third tick I click the altar.

The ranged minion maxes 21 while the magic minion only maxes 16. If you do the calculations, it turns out this difference is enough to make protect from ranged the best option.

@@GeChallengeM cool thanks!

Correct

You're supposed to not wait at all at any point when doing the fresh instance setup method. I'm not sure what ou'e doing wrong there, I'd have to see a clip of it. My agility level is 99. Having a high agility level helps a lot to reduce the amount of needed stamina potions. At level 96, you unlock the maximum bonus. This causes me to never require to drink any stam pots. It's still highly recommended to walk to pick up your loot, pray at the altar and then go to the starting tile though. If you want to save even more run energy, you can either manually walk the 3 outer tiles, or shift-walk those. Slightly more effort but affects your stam pots sustainability a lot.

It's really dumb, but they implemented a "loaddelay" there. This means that your character stays stalled until your client tells the server that the client loaded the area. In the past, this went really quick, and I was even able to do a shot on zammy before starting to move. Later on, this seemed to be impossible as the stall lasts a tick longer, requiring you to move instantly instead of shooting. And now it seems like that doesn't work either anymore? It might work if you disable some resource-intensive plugins maybe, or improve your internet connection... Other than that, I don't know. Zammy's position is really awkward. Perhaps doing the same movement but skipping the first shot would work?

Skipping the first shot works if you find yourself being delayed by an extra tick when entering a fresh instance.

@@is2cake oh right. I confused this video with the tbow one, where there's no shot fired at the start already. Skipping the shot saves a tick yes, that works.

No, since those weapons have a lower attackspeed. I'd recommend looking up my zammy videos with tbow for those methods, since tbow has the same attackspeed as crossbows.

That's possible yes, good to save run energy. Shift-walking those tiles is also possible and maybe even easier.

@@GeChallengeM cool! just finished bandos with your method, wanted to check if its essentially the same here as well. thanks!

It needs to be a 4-tick weapon yeah. For shadow, you need to do a method similar to my tbow zammy 26t vid, but a few of the details are different.

You know that normally, when standing under an agressive NPC, the NPC does random movements. Back in the early OSRS days, this caused you to do weird movement when standing under the NPC and trying to attack it, because the NPC itself did weird movements. As patch, jagex updated the game such that the NPC doesn't anymore when you click it. However, the implementation was more general than required. So even a red-X click on something else than the NPC causes your last targeted NPC to not move while under it. Tl;dr: the door/altar click causes zammy to not move while being under him.

@@GeChallengeM nice to know, thanks again

I don't know about other 6:0 methods, but: - Compared with Lronic memes' 7:0 and 9:0 methods, this method is about 3% better DPS because you don't lose ticks. - Compared to my 9:0 method, it's technically worse since e.g. you get hit more often by the melee minion. But this probably doesn't really matter, and most people prefer 6:0 over 9:0 due to its simplicity.

@@GeChallengeM def more simplistic and less chance of error. Love it thanks

If comparing both setups for a maxed account with maxed gear, the TTK for non-tickloss attacks is 35.6 seconds vs 37.1 seconds. That's assuming no thralls though. On ancient magics, trip longetivity is no issue at all. You can stay as long as you want to, realisticly until you run out of ranged potions. If you bring arceuus spellbook for thralls and demonic offering, longetivity could be an issue for the Fbow method. The 9:0 Fbow method would be highly recommended to do instead of 6:0 due to tanking 3x fewer melee minion hits.

@@GeChallengeM thanks for the quick reply. I guess I'll stick with tbow on ancients. killing imps sucks

Unless you're good at prayer flicking zammy with arclight, I'd say it's worth yes. Maybe give it a try, and decide after that.

If prayer is an issue for your trip lengths, ring of the gods. But it's mostly just a matter of preference, so I suggest you to try and choose.

This is a method for 4-tick weapons. You can't extend it to 5-tick weapons. I do have different videos for 5-tick weapons though.

@@GeChallengeM alright I'll check it out. Thanks for the content. Im going for the pet and some combat achievements! 😊

Today's engine update caused it to stop working, but jagex is planning to fix it tomorrow. As you can see in the message of 15:00 BST in this newspost: secure.runescape.com/m=news/quest-speedrunning-launch?oldschool=1

The most run-efficient saradomin route which only has 1 tile-click in between each boss? Thanks for reminding me, I'll look into it. Maybe I even already wrote down the route for that, but if not I can make one. Do you want one for 4tick or for 5tick weapons?

@@GeChallengeM 4 tick, more irons have access to bowfa now days then t bow now days :)

@@GeChallengeM have you made this yet👀

@@justkidding57 I wrote the method down but haven't made a video (yet), here's the tilemarkers map: i.imgur.com/fuS5FYU.png

@@GeChallengeM thanks a lot. I assume blue tile is first hit on spawn, green is new instance, and red is normal cycle? besides not having to manually walk any tiles, what are pros/cons vs your other video's method?

Indeed, since tbow has a slower attackspeed. It's also not possible to adjust the tilemarkers to get the method to work: the room is 1 tile too small for that... x)

No, since this method makes use of a 4-tick weapon while rune cbow is 5-tick. But there's a method for 5-tick weapons here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iFzLdQgRKag.html I'd recommend using ancient magics instead of arceuus spellbook, so you have blood barrage to get back to full hp. Also, I wouldn't bother switching attackstyle to accurate since it isn't worth the effort.

how's it going for you now?

yeah these gwds vids make me feel fucking retarded sometimes, but just try to follow them as best as you can - IronSnaves

Yes, the kills would just be a bit longer. You might also want to turn on one of the defensive prayers because having to eat during the kill is a bit awkward to do.

1) click k'ril 1 tick after he spawns. This is when he starts turning. 2) click altar right after attacking. Sounds like you didn't do (1). It's very important to delay that first click.

@@GeChallengeM That tip helped a lot, thank you! Following on from that, how late do you click the door because I tend to get hit right after i step out the west side from Kril to attack. Well, I get attacked after i step out to attack each side :(

@@xneidhardt1843 you get hit after stepping out if you messed up earlier in the cycle. So you should avoid messing up earlier, i'd need to see a clip to know what you did wrong exactly, unless you're referring to your original attempts. Sometimes you might mess up regardless though, due to making a mistake by accident. If this happens, the cycle can be fixed by doing what I did at 1:19.

@@GeChallengeMAll the tips you have given got me a 12kc trip (i ran out of stamina). I found that adding in every tile to attack on helped immensely as well (using 1 for tiles to attack on when running east and 2 for tiles to attack on when running west). Focusing on how to reset the cycle also helps out a lot. Thank you for all your help, earned yourself a sub my man. Will be keeping an eye out for more of your content!

My personal preference is ring of the gods. I'd probably take ring of suffering instead if I didn't have one.

I don't, still doing every greater demon slayer task there. I haven't passed the droprate yet so that's fine I guess.

This specific method is only possible for 4-tick weapons, and can't be extended to 5-tick weapons. For 5-tick weapons, I recommend using this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iFzLdQgRKag.html In that video I do a lot of things that slightly increase the kills/hr, but aren't necessary. You can read the video description for more info about that.

@@GeChallengeM my man even provided a link to a video that has it. much luvv brother ty

The combination of reactiontime + ping needs to be under 0.6 seconds for it to work. Having a respawn timer plugin helps a lot for the reacion time. But indeed, if you want to be able to delay your click, moving both tiles 1 west works nicely.

@@GeChallengeM I'm on mobile so no respawn timer, it would help a bunch as you arnt having to react to the spawn as you know when it comes. I found bandos the same move the whole thing 1 tile down

The reasons why I recommended pray mage while learning: - You'll take less damage from minions, since the melee minion isn't able to attack you nearly as often as the mage minion. - Zammy is only able to do its "YARRRR" special attack if you are praying melee. This attack always hits 35-49 damage and drains your prayer. Maybe if you're making LOTS of mistakes, then learning with melee pray could be better. But if you for example only tank 1 hit per kill on average, then learning with mage pray should be better.

How many attempts did it take? I'm stuck at 1kc trips nearly a second and just struggling haha

@@hemz8058 I haven’t gone back yet since spear. But I was still struggling lol

@@im_jlew feelsbadman :(

@@hemz8058 I did go do 6:0 bandos. Got pet at 22kc and tassets at 67kc lol

@@im_jlew how many kc per trip could you manage?

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@@MrCopyrightable ok

The first kill is a regular kill, assuming you're already in the instance. The second kill is supposed to be for the first kill when entering the instance. Or did you mean that you don't know when to shoot during a kill? You have to shoot every time your weapon doesn't have attack cooldown. Basically, this means you have to shoot every 2.4 seconds (4 ticks).

if you are still having trouble, this guide is a helpful supplement ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KpBaKj5EJV0.html&ab_channel=QuickOSRS