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Today I wanted to talk about Sonic games on old consoles.
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@simtek3475
@simtek3475 9 месяцев назад
Apparently there’s some legal issues with Sonic Pocket Adventure that prevent SEGA from even mentioning the game ever again. Ian Flynn said that he wasn’t allowed to have the game featured in any way shape or form in the Sonic Encyclo-Speed-Ia released in 2021, when literally every other Sonic game ever was mentioned in it.
@polocatfan
@polocatfan 9 месяцев назад
It's because SNK developed it I'm pretty sure. They might have joint ownership. (Though I don't get why SNK wouldn't work with them on that, it's literally something they get 0 money on if they don't let SEGA use it.)
@Turbulation1
@Turbulation1 9 месяцев назад
There's also the fact Knuckle's theme from Sonic 3 is in the game, might not seem like a big deal, but considering Sega seems to be scared of legal issues with the whole S3 Music Situation which caused them to just replace it with the S&K theme for origins, they would likely take note of this song too. And they could also just simply hire a romhacker to remove/replace the song, like Namco usually does to get around legal issues, but Sega I guess, tries to keep their hands clean?
@PercyPanleo
@PercyPanleo 9 месяцев назад
​@@polocatfan It really sucks that they couldn't mention it at all, since it was technically the first Dimps game. I suspect the issue is due to the SNK that made Pocket Adventure and the SNK that exists today being two seperate companies. Back in 2001 SNK went bankrupt and all of their IP was transferred to Playmore (With the CEO and most of the key developers on Pocket Adventure having left a year prior to form Dimps) I think the issue with working with SNK on it may be less because of the game itself and more because of it being released on a Neo Geo console. SNK (Playmore) seems to be very strict with the Neo Geo brand, with, as far as I'm aware, it only being used since 2001 for At-Games style devices, the Wii Virtual Console, Super Smash Brothers Ultimate, and Switch eShop rereleases of MVS games, and the pretty disastrous Neo Geo X (Which actually may be the main source of this apparent strictness)
@shalpp
@shalpp 9 месяцев назад
​@@PercyPanleowell don't forget the out of nowhere release of megaman battle and fighters
@svcross-do
@svcross-do 9 месяцев назад
Sonic pocket adventure is the best Sonic Handheld game. It is a must play.
@RariettyC
@RariettyC 9 месяцев назад
The image in my head of a Sega exec at a press event just going up to the mic and saying "Sonic '06" and nothing else to announce a rerelease, in a moment akin to that time at E3 1995 when a Sony exec said "299" and basically preemptively killed the more expensive Sega Saturn, is hilarious
@Jelly_shy_guy_man
@Jelly_shy_guy_man 9 месяцев назад
ZU WE MAMA
@Carsonj13
@Carsonj13 9 месяцев назад
Since when is 299 a cheaper price than 299?
@sonc07
@sonc07 9 месяцев назад
@@Carsonj13the saturn was selling for 399
@Carsonj13
@Carsonj13 9 месяцев назад
@@sonc07 At first.... But by the end of '95, all 32-bit systems were the exact same price: 299. The point I was alluding to is that price had absolutely nothing to do with demise of the Saturn. It's a common misconception that people make for some reason, even though there are plenty of instances where the more expensive console outsold its competition. The Jaguar for instance was 149 in '95, did it "kill" the PlayStation, or even the 3DO for that matter? Nope.
@MattTOB618
@MattTOB618 8 месяцев назад
​​​@@Carsonj13 That's because the Atari Jaguar was already out for two years by '95, only ended up having 50 licensed games of VERY mixed quality to its name, and had less overall brand recognition than their competitors, while the recognition they DID have was rather negative (they were the ones who made _E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial,_ the game that almost singlehandedly killed the gaming industry).
@inktendo
@inktendo 9 месяцев назад
Sega should have ported SegaSonic for the DS/3DS or Wii U and emulated the trackball on the touch screen
@kirotalksyt
@kirotalksyt 9 месяцев назад
That actually might've worked
@carlosemilio5180
@carlosemilio5180 9 месяцев назад
Steam deck mousepad
@sonicloverlol
@sonicloverlol 9 месяцев назад
Or the black kigte
@brickmaster-the-og
@brickmaster-the-og 9 месяцев назад
ps4/5 mousepad
@illford6921
@illford6921 6 месяцев назад
​@@brickmaster-the-ogps5 one is too small tho
@danyo5786
@danyo5786 9 месяцев назад
Sonic and the Black Knight was pretty good from what I played: granted I wasn't using motion controls (dolphin), and at it's core lies a pretty simple and fun game. They should release it along with Secret rings, and just ditch the motion controls entirely, update the graphics, make them run at a higher frame rate, and fix some jank.
@ridgenyan-botxv367
@ridgenyan-botxv367 9 месяцев назад
They could pretty easily do a switch port for the games. Similar to the Wii version of Star wars the force unleashed
@tobylopez4514
@tobylopez4514 8 месяцев назад
black knight is amazing
@bladefox5082
@bladefox5082 8 месяцев назад
Black knight is legitimately a top 5 sonic game if you don’t use motion controls
@PayForViewsJST
@PayForViewsJST Месяц назад
If not which port the games need a straight up remastered instead of a collection The universal hatred for the controls and the unbalanced skill cap of sonic and the secret rings Needs to be tone down I disagree entirely with him While 06 is a travesty I believe secret rings are black and I have merit
@l0pxny
@l0pxny 9 месяцев назад
i'm so glad you talked about both segasonic arcade game and knuckles' chaotix. definitely should be ported and worked on.
@TetranDakker
@TetranDakker 9 месяцев назад
i don't think anyone cares about knuckles' chatoix. even kiro himself mentions this fact.
@SquallyCoin5664
@SquallyCoin5664 9 месяцев назад
@@TetranDakkerI care about Chaotix.
@markofthewolvessucks8930
@markofthewolvessucks8930 8 месяцев назад
The trackball is hard to emulate on consoles though...
@SquallyCoin5664
@SquallyCoin5664 8 месяцев назад
@@markofthewolvessucks8930 The only chances they’ve had were to rerelease on any of the DS or 3DS line of systems, Wii U, or Steam Deck, and they’ve messed it up. A mobile port could work hypothetically but knowing Sega’s other mobile games, it’d be littered with ads.
@extremmefan7305
@extremmefan7305 9 месяцев назад
The one Sonic game rated 10/10 by IGN is a lost gem lmao Also it's a bit unfair to just slap Black Knight into the same bag as Secret Rings given it gave a lot of improvement to its formula. I'd say it's slightly more likely to be brought back for goodwill.
@polocatfan
@polocatfan 9 месяцев назад
yeah Black Knight is fine.
@TheMasterofExplosions
@TheMasterofExplosions 9 месяцев назад
He’s saying Sonic The Hedgehog Pocket Adventure is a lost gem! 🤩 maybe you might be a gem!
@extremmefan7305
@extremmefan7305 9 месяцев назад
@@TheMasterofExplosions I saw the game being played. It looked fun. So it makes sense to call it a lost gem since it's an obscure but actually pretty good title.
@Cool_Kid95
@Cool_Kid95 9 месяцев назад
I really want Knuckle's Chaotix to be remastered like the other mainline classics. It sucks so bad, but it deserves it!
@markfaites
@markfaites 9 месяцев назад
i dint get why people hate knuckles chaotix... i mean,the controls arent that good, but the game itself is so fun, beautiful, and overall, have you seen a better looking sonic game in the time that chaktix was released? knuckles chaotix had ones of my most favourite soundtracks of all sonic soundtracks, ever. the levels are just wonderful, but i mean, the mechanics are SUPPOSTED to be hard cause the two characters are connected with a ring together, right? i love that game so much..
@Cool_Kid95
@Cool_Kid95 9 месяцев назад
@@markfaites I actually quite enjoy the ring tether. It's only so horrible because of the level design.
@markfaites
@markfaites 9 месяцев назад
@@Cool_Kid95 yeah the level design is a bit unorganized and massive so thats one complaint, but overal, the game is literal eyecandy if you dont have nerves or a good memory!
@Cool_Kid95
@Cool_Kid95 9 месяцев назад
@@markfaites I find the levels empty and boring. I'd love to see the mechanics and characters used in a more traditional Sonic Game.
@markfaites
@markfaites 9 месяцев назад
@@Cool_Kid95 oooh- well its better for you than it is for me, i have a very bad memory, short term, and get disoriwnted quickly, so i find myself usually getting stuck on most of knuckles chaotix levels sometimes. i never do in any other sonic game, plus there are tons of levels and acts in chaotix
@altoggiv737
@altoggiv737 9 месяцев назад
Pocket Adventure has a better chance than you might think. There were 2 Neo Geo Pocket Collection games released not too long ago, which also include 3rd party releases (e.g the Mega Man game), so there's a chance that, if a third volume gets announced, Pocket Adventure might be a part of the lineup Also I'm pretty sure the original Rush was actually on the Wii U virtual console.
@StudioInkblot
@StudioInkblot 9 месяцев назад
That's what I was thinking. This isn't a channel I watch regularly (I think I've seen a couple videos), but that part made me really question the level of research put in
@newguy371
@newguy371 9 месяцев назад
Rush was not on the eShop. It was mostly first party titles. There were probably plans on adding the games at a later date, but due to the system being a flop, those plans probably fell through.
@vini64
@vini64 9 месяцев назад
​@@StudioInkblotWell if you had done any research yourself you'd find out Sonic Rush hasn't been released on the Wii U VC...
@LiquidSolidus9000
@LiquidSolidus9000 9 месяцев назад
I've got a ton of nostalgia for Sonic R. I had it on PC and have memories playing it after school in 1st grade in the family computer room, and then heading back to my room to watch DBZ on Toonami :P
@Guy-May-Cry
@Guy-May-Cry 9 месяцев назад
I think authorities would prefer if we kept this disclosed, but a widespread rumor surrounding Knuckles Chaotix is that the game isn't trapped on the 32x, moreso it was imprisoned there as a corporal punishment - most likely for it introducing Charmy the Bee - however much speculation is on the topic. Any other ideas on why though?
@gangstasonic97573
@gangstasonic97573 9 месяцев назад
Us Charmy stans are oppressed. We must rescue our child!
@spicybreadproductions1972
@spicybreadproductions1972 9 месяцев назад
@@gangstasonic97573 we must fight for the most oppressed race of all; Charmy Stans
@silveramyknux241
@silveramyknux241 9 месяцев назад
13:27 I don’t think Secret Rings was that bad, and I really liked Black Knight.
@Robotta
@Robotta 9 месяцев назад
Yeah, Secret Rings was mediocre but Black Knight is a pretty good game once you play without motion controls. A re-release of both with normal controller support would fix the controls entirely.
@silveramyknux241
@silveramyknux241 9 месяцев назад
@@Robotta I just played the game on Wii again, and I still think the game is great on Wii.
@tuna6747
@tuna6747 9 месяцев назад
DAMN the moment this video came out I was trying to emulate Sonic Unleashed on Xenia. What a timing.
@Dzaimon8562
@Dzaimon8562 9 месяцев назад
It's on xbox
@tuna6747
@tuna6747 9 месяцев назад
@@Dzaimon8562 I know but Im not gonna buy a 500 dollar console just to play Sonic Unleashed and there are mods for Unleashed on emulation like turn off the battle music and no medal requariment. But the damn game crashes every 5 minutes.
@AL4IGH5
@AL4IGH5 Месяц назад
@@tuna6747use xenia canary
@typemasters2871
@typemasters2871 9 месяцев назад
The weird (and slightly ironic) thing about Sonic Boom games is that the games were suppose to promote cartoon But because of how bad the games were handles, it caused the opposite effect, having people stay way from the Sonic Boom brand just because of how bad the games were In short, if the sonic boom games didn’t exist, then the cartoon would have probably gotten more popular in general
@mrhalfsaid1389
@mrhalfsaid1389 9 месяцев назад
I want rush remakes SO BAD, theyre so good and really fun. Plus the only issue is emulating the dual screen effect
@IvoryCaffeine_
@IvoryCaffeine_ 9 месяцев назад
Shouldn’t be too bad, the stage screen can just go up and down with sonic like the other 2D games
@ridgenyan-botxv367
@ridgenyan-botxv367 9 месяцев назад
​​@@IvoryCaffeine_ honestly, it's probably best to think of the rush games as having a single giant screen as opposed to two for figuring out how to port it
@markdebruyn1212
@markdebruyn1212 8 месяцев назад
How you gonna solve the touch screen stuff, some of thise special stafes are brutal
@nicksokolowski7709
@nicksokolowski7709 8 месяцев назад
​@@markdebruyn1212Capcom already did solve this problem with the release of the Mega Man Zero/ZX Legacy Collection by having the touch screen be controlled by the right stick.
@RosieUV
@RosieUV Месяц назад
Make it a mobile game in portrait mode, then you can use the touch screen capabilities. The problem then is how the controls would fit, but I'm sure there's a way.
@pattersong6637
@pattersong6637 9 месяцев назад
I think you could see Sonic Shuffle if and only if they ever do a Dreamcast Mini. You need like 20 games to fill a system like that and you're gonna need a few deep cuts to fill the list out. Same with Sonic R and a Saturn Mini.
@FlyingDuckMan360
@FlyingDuckMan360 9 месяцев назад
@pattersong6637 I'm one of those people who's hoping for both a Saturn Mini and a Dreamcast Mini. For the former, in addition to the Sonic games, some other IPs I'm hoping for include Baku Baku Animal, Bug!, Clockwork Knight, and NIGHTS. For the Dreamcast, I'm hoping for the two Sonic Adventure games and Shuffle, as well as Sega Bass Fishing, Jet Set Radio, Crazy Taxi, Toy Commander, Chu Chu Rocket, and Ooga Booga.
@pattersong6637
@pattersong6637 9 месяцев назад
@@FlyingDuckMan360 Saturn Mini is much harder just because so many of the Saturn's best games are only in Japanese. That said, in addition to the games you listed, the Panzer Dragoon games should be on Saturn Mini. Your Dreamcast Mini list is really solid, but there are a bunch you can add like Space Channel 5, Powerstone, and Ikaruga. It gets hard quick to come up with 20-ish really good Saturn games IN ENGLISH for a Saturn Mini, which is one of the reasons I'm pessimistic about it though I'd love it. Dreamcast Mini should be easy.
@Laynel8
@Laynel8 9 месяцев назад
@@pattersong6637 Perhaps maybe having 1 or 2 of Capcom's 2D fighting games on the Saturn mini would be cool, since at the time those versions of Capcom's arcade ports ran and played better on the Saturn compared to their PlayStation counterparts.
@mahirutsuyuzaki
@mahirutsuyuzaki 9 месяцев назад
Sonic 06 actually got relisted on the Xbox 360 store sometime recently but I doubt they'd add backwards compatibility even though that'd be legendary
@markofthewolvessucks8930
@markofthewolvessucks8930 8 месяцев назад
Ngl I'd kill for that lol. If Plumber's Don't wear ties can be in Modern Consoles then So can 06.
@spongebobfan78
@spongebobfan78 9 месяцев назад
I really appreciate how Kiro factors the "not received well" as one of the possible reasons for no rereleases. People be like "Why Sega chose Colors instead of Unleashed when Colors sucked" forgetting that Colors, for several years, was seen as a very good Sonic game with lots of positive reviews, especially outside the fandom, which Colors Ultimate was capitalizing on with the success of the first Sonic movie. It was not until the recent years where the fandom perception changed. Meanwhile Unleashed scored BADLY and was scorned as one of the worst Sonic games by many people (mediocre at best, due to Werehog), especially outside the fandom.
@adrenaliner91
@adrenaliner91 2 дня назад
I bet Colors only got a bad reputation because of "Ultimate" seriously, that game hurts the eyes...
@user-oc7yu1uo1d
@user-oc7yu1uo1d 9 месяцев назад
That sonic arcade game looks super cute and the spritework is awesome.
@megapokesonicx
@megapokesonicx 9 месяцев назад
Black Knight was goated honestly and the motion controls were actually decent Still wish these games would see the light again
@fivejedis
@fivejedis 9 месяцев назад
Sonic Advance absloutely needs a collection of some sort, or at the very least add them to the Game Boy Advance NSO. I could potentially see the Sonic Story Book games released if they were reworked to remove motion controls but that's highly unlikely.
@tepigthegamer55
@tepigthegamer55 7 месяцев назад
the first sonic games i played were shadow in my neighbor's house, sonic 4 episode 2 in my dad's ipad and i end up owning sonic riders zero gravity and black knight for the wii. is wild how much i love those games and the franchise as a whole after those games being my introduction to sonic.
@YoshiTheOreo
@YoshiTheOreo 9 месяцев назад
Sonic Battle NEEDS a comeback.
@markofthewolvessucks8930
@markofthewolvessucks8930 8 месяцев назад
Or at least a sequel
@FlyingDuckMan360
@FlyingDuckMan360 9 месяцев назад
6:12 - Agreed. For a sequel to Sonic Shuffle, what I'd like to see in it is the same gameplay (drawing cards to move across the board and battle enemies, collecting seven gems, and the game ending when all seven are collected), but with improved AI (less likely to take your best cards even when they have the exact same ones), new playable characters (Shadow, Rouge, Cream, Blaze, and Silver), and elements more in line with the Sonic franchise (the Chaos Emeralds taking the place of the Precioustones, Dr. Eggman's Badniks taking the places of the Precioustone Monsters, and worlds like Green Hill, Chemical Plant, and Casino Night).
@xamp_exclammark
@xamp_exclammark 8 месяцев назад
Sonic 06 is currently in the Xbox marketplace, it was put there in 2022 for 5 bucks.Would love the treatment for Shadow.
@JonyPlayz1
@JonyPlayz1 9 месяцев назад
Interesting video! I honestly think the Rush series should really be the ones ported to Steam at least, they are so underrated
@Rebateman
@Rebateman 9 месяцев назад
This video not only made me find out Sonic Shuffle exists, but also that the logo seems to be potentially the inspiration of the Pokemon Shuffle logo.
@wilmeister123
@wilmeister123 9 месяцев назад
I shall not stand for storybook slander
@Sonic171K
@Sonic171K 9 месяцев назад
Leave the solid story and music for both games alone. Black Knight has better controls/gameplay. I cannot defend Secret Rings god awful controls/gameplay and mission structure. Party mode was fun though.
@Picy64
@Picy64 9 месяцев назад
​@@Sonic171Kyeah Secret Rings's controls only get fun after like an hour of grinding points to unlock skills
@TheJadeFist
@TheJadeFist 8 месяцев назад
You know what Sonic Shuffle was still a fun game. Would be cool to see the concept come back. Maybe do something more with the cards, like building a deck to use during the gameboard or boss battles.
@MrMegaManFan
@MrMegaManFan 9 месяцев назад
Sonic Pocket definitely deserves more exposure.
@kylejones8289
@kylejones8289 9 месяцев назад
While Secret Rings is pretty hated, and was unplayably awful in my opinion, Black Knight does not deserve to be painted with that brush. It has its fans, and it was pretty fun to play honestly, with one of the best stories in the franchise. It isn't amazing, but it's not a bad game either.
@RaitoADV
@RaitoADV 9 месяцев назад
To be fair, Neo Geo Pocket Color games have been re-released recently by SNK for the Nintendo Switch and Steam. We even got some Capcom NGPC games like the SNK vs Capcom games, and Mega Man Battle & Fighters. Maybe SNK can approach SEGA for a re-release deal? 🤷
@unclemogi
@unclemogi 9 месяцев назад
Luckily regarding Sonic 06, we have Project06 to look forward too on PC. Though I think it's technically cheating to say when it comes to this list, since it's a unofficial fan made remaster lol
@leeartlee915
@leeartlee915 2 месяца назад
But the thing is, once you mention “we have the PC blah, blah, blah”, you’ve literally opened up the possibility to play ALL games ever made. This video is talking about “legit” ways of playing these games without the use of original hardware.
@zokiamv
@zokiamv 9 месяцев назад
12:10 Sonic P-06 by ChaosX fixed Sonic 06 finally
@MrMartellSincere
@MrMartellSincere 9 месяцев назад
That's tragic seeing these Sonic The Hedgehog games won't ever be rereleased ever again 😔
@Natsu-jf6br
@Natsu-jf6br 9 месяцев назад
i really wish sega have some care about sonic heroes because like you said it was your first sonic game you've played in the sonic series and this is applies to me too. heck, i think it's considered the introduction to the sonic series for most of 2000s sonic fans myself included.
@MattTOB618
@MattTOB618 8 месяцев назад
It was my first Sonic game as well, alongside _Sonic Advance 3._
@Natsu-jf6br
@Natsu-jf6br 8 месяцев назад
@@MattTOB618 welcome to sonic 2000s club my dude!! 👍😊
@donstarplayz
@donstarplayz 9 месяцев назад
Unleashed and Generations have been stuck in PS3 era purgatory for some time now, so I’d like to see them get a remaster. I know that Gens has a PC port, but from what I’ve heard, it runs super bad, so could still use an upgrade. As well as the original Dreamcast versions of the Adventure games; which to my knowledge, have never been properly ported apart from PC mods for DX. I’d really like to see those ported/remade/remastered, since DX just doesn’t cut it.
@evdestroy4121
@evdestroy4121 9 месяцев назад
Gens PC is fine, also the game runs on Xbox Series X and you can still buy it digitally
@donstarplayz
@donstarplayz 9 месяцев назад
@@evdestroy4121 fair enough. I’ve just only heard bad things about it. And anyway, a remaster would certainly do it good. Especially since they’ve seemingly perfected Classic Sonic in 3D for Superstars.
@Sonic171K
@Sonic171K 9 месяцев назад
We’re still waiting.
@NateRD90
@NateRD90 9 месяцев назад
They're both backwards compatible on the Xbox One/Series X, at 60 FPS. And Generations is on PC, and still has an extremely strong modding community.
@SonicfanaticOfficialGD
@SonicfanaticOfficialGD 9 месяцев назад
@@donstarplayz Unleash also is in Xbox Series S and run in 60 fps
@MoonSarito
@MoonSarito 9 месяцев назад
I'm probably one of the few weirdos who had a good time with Knuckles Chaotix and even prefers him over to Sonic CD.
@mistersp3753
@mistersp3753 9 месяцев назад
Here's hoping this video ages poorly. There have been rumors of rereleases for several years now, most notably Sonic Heroes. I would be surprised if we didn't get any of these back over the next few years, especially with the impending gap between major releases. Frontiers 2 is still a few years off, and with Sega interested in "keeping the ball rolling", a re-release/collection would make perfect sense in 2024 or 2025.
@GearlessJoe44
@GearlessJoe44 9 месяцев назад
Ive wanted sonic heroes to be ported, remastered, get a sequel, just whatever for so long. Its also my first sonic game so the nostalgia is strong
@brandonwilliams6119
@brandonwilliams6119 9 месяцев назад
>Nobody cares about Knuckles Chaotix That hit me so hard because it’s so true, I’m a huge apologist for the game, you are always tethered to your partner, each lead character plays differently with Charmy being one of the most powerful characters in gaming (props if you get the reference), you can accrue negative ring count debt if you press a certain character to get unstuck your characters if you ever get stuck lol which I find hilarious. One of my favorite songs from the game is Marina Madness/Seascape. It also has my favorite special stages in the classic series.
@extremmefan7305
@extremmefan7305 9 месяцев назад
Fellow whoisthisgit viewer? 👀
@Chrono-and-Co
@Chrono-and-Co 9 месяцев назад
​@@extremmefan7305fellow game apologist viewer?
@extremmefan7305
@extremmefan7305 9 месяцев назад
@@Chrono-and-Co Oh hey, I watch him too
@Chrono-and-Co
@Chrono-and-Co 9 месяцев назад
@@extremmefan7305 yooooo
@kirotalksyt
@kirotalksyt 9 месяцев назад
Marina Madness is a great chill song and yeah I did really like the Special Stages too
@PokemonRules141
@PokemonRules141 9 месяцев назад
Imagine a rerelease of Sonic ‘06 that fixed all the issues with the original and then they put in a toggle to put all those issues back in.
@markofthewolvessucks8930
@markofthewolvessucks8930 8 месяцев назад
Cool
@tazqball1605
@tazqball1605 9 месяцев назад
I like to see how these games can be relevant in today's modern gaming systems as either re-releases or remasters or straight from the ground up remakes like Crash N sane trilogy and Spyro Reignited trilogy.
@NovikNova
@NovikNova 8 месяцев назад
Someone fixed Sonic Free Riders a little while back They’re fucking awesome
@garsrandom4358
@garsrandom4358 9 месяцев назад
« Sonic 06 is never getting rereleased » Sonic Project-06 (a fan remake that proves the game has a lot of potential): am I a joke to you
@dellosayshello5405
@dellosayshello5405 9 месяцев назад
sonic gems collection really had a lot of missed potential
@ElectrikStatik900
@ElectrikStatik900 9 месяцев назад
Oh c'mon, Sonic and the Black Knight isn't THAT bad.
@garsrandom4358
@garsrandom4358 9 месяцев назад
Goldeneye 64 is not that obscure, it’s even considered one of, if not THE best n64 FPS game
@OrangeToadGamer
@OrangeToadGamer 9 месяцев назад
Just wanna comment to say I don't think I've ever seen anyone use the word *That're* ever 💀 *Amazing video as always though, would love to see Rush or Heroes ported/remastered someday*
@kirotalksyt
@kirotalksyt 9 месяцев назад
It might not be proper English lol
@SauceBoss14
@SauceBoss14 9 месяцев назад
New contraction just dropped
@akirafuudou2037
@akirafuudou2037 8 месяцев назад
@@SauceBoss14 It's not new, but it has never been officially accepted as real English. If you might happen to be writing dialogue for a character who uses much more colloquial speech, you could get away with it. But absolutely don't use "that're" formally or on a real document.
@spearmintpony7105
@spearmintpony7105 9 месяцев назад
5:33 Canonically, it was the first Sonic game to introduce Eggman's modern design.
@DanialProhozdenia
@DanialProhozdenia 9 месяцев назад
Sonic Unleashed: hold my 5/5 score
@Sorvetedchocolat
@Sorvetedchocolat 9 месяцев назад
It isn't trapped. It's already playable on the Xbox Series and even has a 60fps patch
@Sonic171K
@Sonic171K 9 месяцев назад
It is trap on Xbox. D:
@callumsparrow4379
@callumsparrow4379 9 месяцев назад
Sonic Pocket Adventure would’ve been perfect for the 3DS Virtual Console. I remember when NGPC titles were announced for the 3DS VC, but they sadly never came.
@gjergjaurelius9798
@gjergjaurelius9798 9 месяцев назад
That person he mentioned on owning a neo Geo pocket color....🙋🏻‍♂️
@KHloreExpert
@KHloreExpert 9 месяцев назад
As a big fan of Sonic R and Shadow the Hedgehog I'd certainly prefer not to forget them. Sonic R is definitely too short and the controls take a little getting used to but those controls definitely aren't bad like the internet mob likes to parrot. It's the only racing game in the franchise that uses the footrace format allowing for more creative track layouts, multiple interwoven pathways like the classic games, and the use of character specific abilities the latter of which didn't make canon sense because Sonic and Metal Sonic are way too fast for any of their competitors but so what, the other classic games and other games since all follow the same gameplay logic. Shadow the Hedgehog is fun. The gunplay works well without complicating the controls and has a decently varied arsenal. The missions certainly range in quality but are also fun regardless, a clear improvement on the Chaotix gameplay from Heroes which was also fun although sometimes tedious. Shadow controls well too: They clearly used Heroes as the base and as a result the top speed is still amped a bit too high with slippery control but this game added a mechanic that stops Shadow dead in his tracks if while running he approaches a ledge and it also slowed him down a little while jumping allowing for more precise landings. They also added the Spindash in place of Heroes' Rocket Accel which is more iconic and has its uses and they also tweaked the homing attack which works really well. Sure the story was more edgy than serious at times but it's an E10+ video game from a franchise that's certainly touched on some serious topics but is generally and at its core a children's cartoon about animal people with powers and magic jewelry so I don't understand why anyone expects a narrative masterpiece. I've never understood why it matters to people if the characters lightly swear or not although I do find it funny that the use of the words "Damn" and "Hell" by a few members of the cast is a common criticism about this game that the internet mob parrots but that same mob (I presume there's significant overlap) praise the Japanese dub of Sonic X in part for it's use of swear words that were all censored out in the English dub. I'd love to see these two games ported to modern hardware perhaps with minor bugfixes, nothing game-changing, although porting as is would be great too. Alternatively or additionally one or both of these getting a sequel, either in a spiritual or literal sense, would also be exciting.
@UltimateInkling
@UltimateInkling 9 месяцев назад
Highly agree on the shadow the hedgehog one its so fun imo.
@eljaminlatour6633
@eljaminlatour6633 9 месяцев назад
Charii5 pointed this out when making his "Everything wrong with Sonic Origins". He noticed that the collection has OST of Knuckles' Chaotix, but not the game itself. It became very hard for him because there were no re-releases for it or modern emulators for it. So, he had to play it with real Sega 32X hardware.
@nithpro1385
@nithpro1385 9 месяцев назад
there are 32x emulators lol
@yagofazcoisaseuacho8035
@yagofazcoisaseuacho8035 9 месяцев назад
I'm pretty sure most Mega Drive emulators work as 32x emulators, you just need to set a few things up
@tuluflulu
@tuluflulu 9 месяцев назад
Kega fusion can play it with no issues. Though, I'm not sure people even know what that is.
@zacharygustafson8714
@zacharygustafson8714 7 месяцев назад
I played Chaotix on an emulator just fine a few months ago.
@datguy2345
@datguy2345 9 месяцев назад
The sonic rush games are GOATED
@Sonic171K
@Sonic171K 9 месяцев назад
I only like the first one. The waterbike in the sequel was annoyingly STUPID.
@smb2fds
@smb2fds 9 месяцев назад
​@@Sonic171KI remember you
@smb2fds
@smb2fds 9 месяцев назад
*game
@kyethememer9836
@kyethememer9836 9 месяцев назад
The Sonic games that I most want to play are 'the adventure games and heroes' I'm still praying for quality ports of the games on modern consoles.
@Giggles_iJest
@Giggles_iJest 9 месяцев назад
Hold your tongue over the storybook games. Those were my childhood ✊️😔💯🔥
@blueknightskeleton8424
@blueknightskeleton8424 9 месяцев назад
"No one cares about Knuckles' Chaotix" So i guess i'm invisible
@ChrisSmith-tw1mo
@ChrisSmith-tw1mo 9 месяцев назад
Sonic Shuffle, Knuckles Chaotix, Advance 1-3, Sonic Battle
@Mankey619
@Mankey619 9 месяцев назад
So many Sonic games that’ll be forever be trapped into the depths of their own console exclusives for all eternity. It’ll be nice to see them get a re release, if Sega themselves care about them.
@billchiper1628
@billchiper1628 9 месяцев назад
I am happy that you included Sonic Rush in it because I just finished the whole story of Sonic Rush on my Nintendo DS lite. I got the game and the Ds lite in 2023 summer but I just loved playing that game except some zones that had me killed every time and put me to game over screen. But other than that Sonic Rush soundtrack is so good, the zone music. It's just so good.
@wakuwakusonicpartolcar
@wakuwakusonicpartolcar 9 месяцев назад
don't forget the only good unmodded version of SA1 stuck on dreamcast
@gangstasonic97573
@gangstasonic97573 9 месяцев назад
I love Knuckles’ Chaotix with my heart and soul and I will die on that hill.
@Ponifex
@Ponifex 9 месяцев назад
It's aesthetically gorgeous, features a fantastic soundtrack (even by the sky-high standards of its origin series), and boasts one of the most uniquely fascinating playable prototypes of the 16-bit era. Certainly not meritless from a purely artistic perspective. Shame about the actual game, though.
@omegaaklx303
@omegaaklx303 4 месяца назад
"I'm pretty sure Sega wants you to forget this game even existed", so about that...
@One_way_Dream
@One_way_Dream 3 месяца назад
9:37 this part aged kinda poorly and I love it sega does NOT want me to forget about the goat🐐
@Castcoder
@Castcoder 9 месяцев назад
To be fair, Sega technically did re-release Sonic 06 when they randomly re-listed the game a few years ago on the Xbox 360 Marketplace.
@markofthewolvessucks8930
@markofthewolvessucks8930 8 месяцев назад
Yeah
@godofmediocrity7582
@godofmediocrity7582 8 месяцев назад
12:10 funny thing, it HAS been rereleased… kinda. It was delisted back in 2010, but earlier this year was silently relisted for only 5 bucks on the Xbox Marketplace. Not backwards compatible tho and the store’s shutting down next year soooo…
@markofthewolvessucks8930
@markofthewolvessucks8930 8 месяцев назад
Yeah.
@drybonesmunchakoopas5143
@drybonesmunchakoopas5143 8 месяцев назад
hold on no sonic and the black knight was freaking great. people need to stop judging it off secret of the rings
@awesomeguy2009
@awesomeguy2009 9 месяцев назад
Man, such a missed opportunity for Chaotix to not be in Origins Plus. Even as a 100% bonus or anything smh 🤦
@thetoondevil
@thetoondevil 9 месяцев назад
I think with the ds games, the only way I can see them working on modern consoles is with the switch's screen options. Some of their games you can turn the system vertically to simulate some of the arcade titles. But this was a feature I rarely used, but it's the only way I can see games like sonic rush being functional.
@LavaCreeperPeople
@LavaCreeperPeople 9 месяцев назад
Knuckles 32X had a pretty alright soundtrack imo. Sonic Rush's OST was mediocore i guess
@tommymaxey2665
@tommymaxey2665 9 месяцев назад
Oh man i remember i got Sonic Rush on my DS. I remember it took me so long to make it through the game. Eventually my game stopwd working because the used DS i got had corroded prongs and it messed up pretty much all of my ds games
@GeflGabe
@GeflGabe 9 месяцев назад
The DS games were just announced for the switch. Cant wait to listen to those rush tunes again.
@ChrisStoneinator
@ChrisStoneinator 9 месяцев назад
By what metric can a DS game be considered trapped? Guarantee you have one down the back of your sofa.
@Nathaniel_E_Dearing
@Nathaniel_E_Dearing 9 месяцев назад
With Sonic Pocket Adventure, there's a chance that if SNK were to do a NeoGeo Pocket Color Selection Vol.3, it might be among the titles included. With the Sonic Advance series, a THQ Nordic title is on Game Boy Online, so Nintendo could therefore untangle the U.S. rights for a GBA Online release. And with Knuckles Chaotix, there is music from it advertised as part of some Sonic Origins DLC, and 32X titles might be mixed in to SEGA Genesis Online in the future.
@maccamachine
@maccamachine 8 месяцев назад
We need a sonic advance collection so bad those are some of my favorite sonic games ever. Rush is also one of my favorites but I can still play it on my ds
@Futuredynamo
@Futuredynamo 9 месяцев назад
Knuckles Chaotix isn't as good as the other 2D Sonic games, but (speaking as someone who got a 32X and that game back in the day, and I still have them) it is a lot better in my opinion than a lot of people give it credit for. And frankly I'd rather play it over some of the lesser Sonic games from the 3D era.
@Newhouse56
@Newhouse56 9 месяцев назад
Black Knight is good tf
@sanicsanic6890
@sanicsanic6890 23 дня назад
While I do find it fun even I can tell it’s not that great as it’s just waggle the wiimote the game sonic edition
@vegasvanga5442
@vegasvanga5442 8 месяцев назад
Preserving Sega titles is a moot point, because they seem to deliberately turn a blind eye to emulation. They literally allow people to sell ROMhacks on Steam. Sega Smash Pack's code straight up provides instructions on how to illicitly use the emulator to play other Genesis and Master System titles not included in that compilation. Even Kega Fusion was developed by a Sega employee
@T725db
@T725db 9 месяцев назад
In the minority here: I Love Knuckles Chaotix and wish it would get another shot , whether that be Christian Whitehead- ish re-release or a plain port. Definitely not an amazing game but I love it for it’s color palette, characters and music.
@ivoryvt
@ivoryvt 9 месяцев назад
I actually love Knuckles' Chaotix. That game is unironically fun to play, and I love it's aesthetic and music.
@borttheattorney6012
@borttheattorney6012 9 месяцев назад
Bro wants beef with Black Knight fans
@xythrr
@xythrr 4 месяца назад
Love that the lowest rated one on the list is the closest one to actually being rereleased. Sonic X Shadow generations is effectively a shadow sequal.
@sonicsillies
@sonicsillies 9 месяцев назад
i miss sonic rush. years ago my brother and i were getting rid of a bunch of DS games and that was one of them :( i also would love to see a remake of adventure. ive never played it because i wasnt a 90s kid...colors was my first sonic game 😭🫶🏻 im glad that got ported to the switch but lets be honest it couldve been so much better! ive been trying to replay it and its just...eh. SORRY FOR THE RANT LOL
@squallleonhart9387
@squallleonhart9387 9 месяцев назад
Sonic Shuffle - This could be something Sega could use to generate buzz and hype with a sequel announcement since Nintendo is sleeping on Mario Party and won’t put MP3 on NSO let alone give us DLC for Superstars. Sonic Battle - Make the sequel a traditional 2D Fighter like Dragon Ball FighterZ and call in ArcSys to help develop it, and have Honey the Cat be in the starting roster to have a big spotlight on her, heck could even throw in IDW characters like Surge, Tangle, Whisper and Lanolin. Sonic Riders - I always saw this as the cooler alternative to the very popular Mario Kart and riding on Hoverboards fits Sonic so well like a Glove I’m surprised Sega has been sleeping on this one for a while, an announcement of this subseries coming back would generate tons of excitement too, also stick Sage in there too should would be cute in a unique riders outfit.
@lafbkhope5391
@lafbkhope5391 9 месяцев назад
Meh, Sonic Battle turning into a generic fighter would be pretty lame honestly. At this point just call that a different game.
@darksonic5theochedgehog218
@darksonic5theochedgehog218 9 месяцев назад
Honestly I feel like the Original Sonic adventure should have been here, I know Sonic Adventure DX exists but I’m pretty sure most of use want to play the original that was only for the Dreamcast
@igorpoco2420
@igorpoco2420 9 месяцев назад
I have 2 Neo Geo Pockets and I can tell you that the joystick is one of the most fantastic things I've ever tried. Sonic Pocket Adventure is mandatory on the system.
@svcross-do
@svcross-do 9 месяцев назад
I really love that Sonic Game.
@Chrono-and-Co
@Chrono-and-Co 9 месяцев назад
Kiro I just wanted to tell you that your content is so good and high quality that it would make jon tron and splash dash shiver in their boots.I cant wait for the next upload! Edit:I love obscure sonic games and I have so much nostalgia for sonic R and the advanced series.
@leeartlee915
@leeartlee915 2 месяца назад
When it comes to hand held games not being rereleased, it has taken game companies until about now to realize that people want these games. We’ve seen them finally rerelease Mega Man games, Castlevania, and so on recently. So I think it will happen. … except for DS/3DS games. That duel screen thing makes it so developers have to put in a LOT more effort to port those games.
@gamemaster2819
@gamemaster2819 28 дней назад
Another possible issue for Sonic Rush being rerrleased seems to be the music. Sonic Rush has great music, and Sega has liked to reuse in games like Sonic All Stars Racing, Smash Bros, and the Mario Sonic series. However, somehwere allong the line, the OSTs were removed from music platforms like iTunes. And then, Right There, Right On, a consitent mainstay in Mario & Sonic and Smash Bros, stopped appearing in Rio and Ultimate. A brief instrumental remix of Vela Nova appeared in Team Sonic Racing, so it might be an issue with vocals
@soufianegamerpro
@soufianegamerpro 9 месяцев назад
i wish these sonic games gets in future sonic game collections like sonic origins
@Zejgar
@Zejgar 9 месяцев назад
8:19 Sonic Heroes came out on PC as well.
@jasefrybo2232
@jasefrybo2232 9 месяцев назад
Sonic Unleashed sitting in the corner: Guess no one cares about me
@LukeTheFantasticMii
@LukeTheFantasticMii 7 месяцев назад
Title said "Dead Consoles" Shows Sonic Rush in the thumbnail
@Pegyson
@Pegyson 9 месяцев назад
Wasn't there a PC release of Heroes?
@Newhouse56
@Newhouse56 9 месяцев назад
yeah but it sucked
@Sonic171K
@Sonic171K 9 месяцев назад
Heroes sucks in general. People lied to my face saying it was a good game. I even went for the supposedly best version on GameCube.
@borttheattorney6012
@borttheattorney6012 9 месяцев назад
@@Sonic171K My guy I think you should learn what an opinion is
@markofthewolvessucks8930
@markofthewolvessucks8930 8 месяцев назад
​@@borttheattorney6012lol
@markofthewolvessucks8930
@markofthewolvessucks8930 8 месяцев назад
​@@Sonic171KTrue
@lucymorrison
@lucymorrison 5 месяцев назад
Black Knight is my favourite Sonic game no question and it pains me that it’s stuck on Wii (Wii U as well with backwards compatibility, that’s how I usually play it, but both of these systems are dead). I would kill for a Switch/PS5 port, seriously!
@macuser7048
@macuser7048 9 месяцев назад
What I would do is merge the two screens into one and make it widescreen to fit the Switch.
@catholiccontriversy
@catholiccontriversy 9 месяцев назад
I'd love to see Sonic 06 with the game breaking bugs and loading times fixed but others left in (like goat simulator). Never played it (yet), but I saw videos and it's wild.
@SonicfanaticOfficialGD
@SonicfanaticOfficialGD 9 месяцев назад
You should try P-06 A fan remake of sonic 06 that isnt finished but keeps updating
@JC-hi8fk
@JC-hi8fk 9 месяцев назад
I don’t consider the Steam Deck a dead console 🏴‍☠
@ahmedhasan4966
@ahmedhasan4966 9 месяцев назад
It came out in 2021 of course it's not dead.
@TheJadeFist
@TheJadeFist 8 месяцев назад
The Storybook games could at least be revisited in concept, but with a more traditional control scheme. There is no reason being based on fairytales and stuff would require having waggle controls that suck. Just give it a boost style gameplay and go wild.
@zadock6370
@zadock6370 8 месяцев назад
thanks for giving me a list of "must buy" sonic games
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