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Sonic Lost World Lost the Fans | Retrospective in Reverse 

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Hey Everyone!
Next video in my 3D Sonic Retrospective in Reverse is here. I had some mixed views on this game but they were generally more positive than I expected! Which seems to be a common theme for the 3D Sonic games I suppose. Anyway, hope you enjoy!
00:00 Introduction
04:25 Story
09:13 Presentation
12:38 Control
15:53 Conclusion
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13 июл 2024

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@kakhome1
@kakhome1 Год назад
Looking forward to that Generations video!! Some of my favorite 2.5/3D Sonic gameplay for sure in that one (and not to mention plenty of extra content I can enjoy for it including basically the only way to see Unleashed's daytime levels on PC). This was an interesting retrospective, it's definitely a more 'Classic' game than the other 3D titles. Wondering what your thoughts on Sonic Mania are? In spite of being fully in 2D I still think that is true peak Classic Sonic for the post-Genesis era and even competing with Sonic's 2/3K. It nails the physics, had so many routes to be replayable, and added an extra layer of beauty to the Genesis visuals. (Oh, and music too.) While I slightly lament having just four brand new zones and another two or three Acts with completely new level design (like Act 2's of Chemical Plant and Oil Ocean mainly), I also found it always satisfying to see what was added or changed in older returning levels.
@NintenDeen
@NintenDeen Год назад
Okay so I played Generations a few months ago and I'm on a second playthrough while working on my script. The game completely lives up to the hype, I'm actually thinking of playing Forces again since I haven't played it in a long while just so I have a better idea of what makes Generations feel so good. I love Sonic Mania, I played it a bunch back when it first came out for a few months but I haven't looked at it since. It felt like a modern version of the classic games and since I loved the classics it makes sense that I thought it was so good then too. I plan on doing a video on it eventually and since it'll be my first time playing it since making this channel I'll actually be able to look at it critically and get a feel for where I'd rank it with the rest of the classics. I'm not sure if it can beat 3K for me because I view that game as perfect lol. But who knows, my opinions have changed quite a bit once I started critically analyzing these games. Thanks for watching and commenting btw! It's good to see what viewers are thinking about so I know what to move forward with
@kakhome1
@kakhome1 Год назад
@@NintenDeen You're welcome! I enjoy these kind of analysis channels 😀 Sonic 3&K had all brand new levels at the time and was epic in its silently told plot...a game I fully agree was the best platformer until the DKC trilogy. And it is certainly at the very least still right there next to Mania as the best Classic Sonic game. I'd have given a VERY narrow win to Sonic 2 over Super Mario Bros 3 BTW, because I find it more replayable despite being shorter and SMB3 has aged more by what's come since than Sonic 2...which still to this day there isn't quite another Sonic game with the same short & chill yet multipathed sentiment to its level design. Doesn't mean it's just as good as 3K or Mania, but it does make it one of the easiest platfirmers to do a 'coffee break' replay of. And yeah if you didn't mind Forces and like the Classic and Boost mix, you should absolutely LOVE Generations. If you enjoy the boost (which I do) and don't care about story too much (I don't in Sonic), it strongly could be argued in the Top 3-5 Sonic games period. In fact IMO one of the biggest problems with Forces is that after Generations, I find it hard to not be really unsatisfied by how shallow and basic these levels are. It almost feels to me as if Forces is just a bunch of stuff that was made to get the feel of designing with the boost formula, without a lot of concern over making compelling design...problem is it's actually a massive regression from what was already done and came out SIX years later with nothing close to the same style in between.
@kakhome1
@kakhome1 Год назад
@@NintenDeen Just a note, I left a comment on the 'Transition to 3D' video. Sorry if you prefer not to have comments left on older videos - please just let me know if that's the case.
@NintenDeen
@NintenDeen Год назад
@@kakhome1 just replied to that other comment. On the contrary I look forward to comments on all my videos. I'm still at a low subscriber count so sometimes I get my first comment months later and finally get to discuss it 🤣. For the record, between the Nostalgia and the all around amazing game design of the classic era, I wouldn't argue with anyone for ordering 3K, World, Mario 3 and Sonic 2 in any other order. I have my preferences but all 4 of those games were amazing
@CC-ks6nm
@CC-ks6nm 21 день назад
Oof, this right there officer, Sonic Colors and Sonic Lost World (3DS) made me abandon the franchise (played these around the same time). Then Forces made me realize that I am a Sonic fan, hahahah Your analysis is great as always, I just want to share something personal: From my point of view, people were praising Colors and Lost World, and honestly that didn't feel good. Sonic will get criticized all the time, by fans and by random people, but talking seriously, I don't think the problem is that the story is too simple or too serious, the problem is that it's just bad writing. The jokes didn't land, the serious moments didn't land, and the characters were just unbearable to hear. I can understand your positive perspective of this game as a Mario fan, the problem is, that if I wanted a Mario game, I would buy a Mario game, and even if I want Sonic to succeed, what's the point of it if he loses his identity? Mario is definitely a great source of inspiration (I hope they take into account the Wonder mechanic), but around that time it felt that this inspiration was just taking over the identity of the franchise itself. And even then, at least Mario didn't have these petty discussions that Sonic and Tails were having. I mean, f*ck, imagine that in Oddyssey Mario was constantly making jokes and then having petty discussions about who is more useful if him or the hat, like c'mon bro. It lost its edge and it focused more on blocky platforming, it just wasn't it. This comes from someone who enjoyed the 2D games, the adventure games, the dark era, and the boost games, maybe not Heroes nor Secret Rings, but Sonic's identity was still there, here, it felt like it was lost because the general audience would like him more that way. The final boss was dope tho.
@GamerGeekLounge
@GamerGeekLounge Год назад
This was an awesome video. I love Sonic. Keep up the amazing work.
@NintenDeen
@NintenDeen Год назад
I meant to show Mario 3D Land footage at 10:10 not 3D World 😅😅
@aster4jaden
@aster4jaden 17 дней назад
I like your take on how the Sonic Games aren't meant to e taken as being too connected, I actually think it makes sense since most of the Games don't really mention events that have happened or explore them further, it's mainly one adventure to the other.
@NintenDeen
@NintenDeen 17 дней назад
I think Western gamers have an unhealthy obsession with continuity in games that aren't meant to have continuity lol. I don't think Easterners care as much about what's canon and what isn't lol. Same goes for movies and shows
@aster4jaden
@aster4jaden 17 дней назад
@@NintenDeen After watching this Video I think you're right.
@nightlydata2181
@nightlydata2181 14 дней назад
Another Comment went over it REALLY WELL & U saw it alr so I jus wanna add that in the case of the criticisms u HEAR from ppl while it can sound incoherent & overly-nitpicky(& in many cases that is actually the case) the main thing is that most ppl(at least back then) couldn't fully explain or identify WUT made the thing "bad" so they pointed at things it was or wasn't tryin to do so they could say "AHA, this is the missin piece of the puzzle" when in actuality while some things they point out MAY have merit to some degree dependin on the game or point in time the main issue was that it wasn't executed in an enjoyable fashion for many, but it was hard for ppl to go in depth as to Y so they simplified it to more external things. In this case we got "bad mario rip-off wit some oddly placed nostalgia" to grab the nintendo crowd cus "THAT'S TOTALLY WUT MADE COLORS SELL SO WELL & SCORE SO HIGH"(not the idea that it was jus a "good" game that didn't overdue things at the time). Lost world was a sudden departure that turned out poorly for many, Forces was not "too serious" but was lambasted for SAYIN it was guna be serious & not followin through on that while jus bein "INCREDIBLY MEDIOCRE"(at BEST) & jus a massive LIE, & BOOM!?...................................................................................................................................blugggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhdhrjevneiverujnfewinecjvniverjiwjcnvikeefdjjvmjvnikhhhuugghghgh
@user-hv3nn2oh7y
@user-hv3nn2oh7y Год назад
Sweet game!
@Brancliff
@Brancliff Год назад
A note about the Sonic series and continuity: I think that the series is meant to be further analyzed and connected, because Sonic Frontiers goes out of its way to mention moments from past games. Yeah, that game came after this, but it was your choice to play these games in reverse
@NintenDeen
@NintenDeen Год назад
Hey! So I think what you're saying is fair to some (maybe even a large) extent, however the point I was trying to get across was more against the community getting over critical towards these details. Which, obviously everyone has a right to their opinions and whatnot, but it seems like with Sonic there's a fair bit of extra toxicity that comes with these criticisms that leave a sour taste and drags these games down more than they should. Especially for a game like Lost World that feels like it was targeted towards 7 year old wiiu owners that never played a Sonic game before rather than someone that's been on this series for 15 years
@ivanzoneBR24
@ivanzoneBR24 Год назад
I'm seeing that nobody is commenting in these Sonic retrospectives. Since I never played a 3D Sonic game, I have basically nothing to comment as well, but I hope you don't get frustrated if it seems that nobody is watching and engaging with your recent videos.
@NintenDeen
@NintenDeen Год назад
Your comment must've started a chain reaction 😅 . Thanks for the words of encouragement/support though. Luckily I'm making these videos more for my enjoyment over everything else. The algorithm gives and it takes away, all I can do is keep on moving lol
@heythammohilldean6446
@heythammohilldean6446 Месяц назад
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