Sonic Needs to Slow Down

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Sonic's 30th anniversary is here, but we still haven't received any info about his next game. Here's my thoughts on where Sonic Team should take the franchise from here!
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@alexcampuzano2001 2 года назад

1) Boost should be more like in Sonic Rush, i mean, just in the floor (let it end more faster, not too long and more harder to obtain). 2) Spin attack, Double jump, Boost, Spin dash, etc, all should be in differents buttons. For example (Nintendo controls),jump and double jump with B, Spin attack with Y, Boost with R, Crouch with L, Spin dash with L+B, etc. 3) Make 2d and 3d Sonic games separated. 4) That using all of Sonic's abilities is not necessarily mandatory but that mastering them allows you to complete the levels better and unlock better things.

@PowPowSmash 2 года назад

Agreed on all of these ideas, boost being harder to obtain and ending quicker is probably the answer to keeping it around. Also after playing Sonic Omens Sonic Team could also just design the levels to be less like hallways and more platform based so you feel less inclined to use the boost mechanic like in Sonic Omens

@TheJtonfire 3 года назад

Great video. I never thought about how slowing down sonic provides more varied level design. And i would love a full vid on why sonic unleashed is your favorite game. Good video!

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Thanks Jordan! I wanna make a full video on at Sonic Unleashed and especially Sonic and the Black Knight one day :)

@SussyBaka_irl 3 года назад

It's funny how you bring up the Boost Formula decreasing Sonic's control & feeling more centralised over fast paced platforming, because whilst these aspects do take away from other gameplay experiences like the Classic & Adventure Formula's, those exact qualities are what I look for in a Sonic game. There's a reason why Unleashed & Generations are my favourite Sonic games & why in Mania, some of the fastest flowing zones like Chemical Plant & Hydro City are my favourites. This all comes down to personal preference of course & for me, I just want speed lmao.😅 Also I'm loving the variety type of content you upload on your channel, like it's either Smash, Nintendo or Sonic & honestly it's great. The quality is consistent, the scripts offer engaging commentary, the skits are hilarious & overall watching your videos are an absolute blast. I'm hoping the variety content isn't damaging on your analytics, because of how the RU-vid algorithm functions.

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Oh yeah I totally get why people enjoy the boost mechanic and I find it fun too but I was coming at this from a level design standpoint and how it has derailed the series :) Thank you so much! I've been mostly focusing on Smash because of the algorithm like you said but that isn't going to stop me from making other videos every now and then. I made this video because I love Sonic and I'm glad that you and others have enjoyed it 😊

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Thanks for watching! What are your predictions for Sonic's 30th anniversary game?

@Radiant_Emerald 3 года назад

A re-imagining of Sa1 in which the only playable character is Sonic, and thus they can improve on what made Sa1 Sonic levels so fun. Of course, since Sonic would be the only character playable, they would make a lot of new stages that may or may not tie in with the plot. Maybe each level could have 2 acts? That way they save a bit on resources.

@TheJtonfire 3 года назад

Sonic mainia 2 baby!!!!

@joseiahmarshall3337 3 года назад

i must say i do agree the sonic's franchise needs more good sonic game ( besides the 29 good sonic games)

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

@@Radiant_Emerald this would actually be sooooo sick

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

@@TheJtonfire definitely a matter of when not if imo

@NeonLightsYT1 3 года назад

I feel that returning to adventure / Heroes style wouldn’t be bad. More free control over the character.

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Mhmm, the way the characters controlled in those games just felt really good for a lack of a better way of explaining it. Piloting Sonic in the boost era just feels awkward when you're not blasting through the level at full speed

@Octo4533 3 года назад

Your channel sir, is what is known as a hidden gem. I love this video A LOT, it has valid points about how the gameplay needs a slight slowdown, you've earned a subscriber. I'll be watching your career with intrest.

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Thank you so much Daigo! My one year anniversary of making videos is this month so I'm excited to see where things go from here :)

@AttackingTucans 3 года назад

I want to play sonic unleashed!! And versus shout out let’s goooo 🙏🏼

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

The game is super fun but can be a pain to navigate from level to level sometimes haha Thanks again for having me on dude! Maybe we can race through some Unleashed levels one day ;)

@TiedyeFungi 3 года назад

I think the main problem with current Sonic is that so many of the original team members have moved on. Mania was a masterpiece (In my opinion), but it never involved Sonic Team besides providing Christian Whitehead, Headcannon, and Pagoda West Games the resources to make the game. Integral members like Yuji Naka, who led SO MANY Sonic games until he left Sega in 2006, just aren't there anymore. Yeah, they had some games I enjoyed after that like Sonic Generations, but what I originally liked about 3D Sonic just isn't there anymore... I replayed the Adventure games in the past couple months, and I vastly prefer them to the games being made now. To me, 3D Sonic still feels like it's trying to find an identity, and I hope they find one soon! The Adventure games are still fun for me to replay, but unfortunately I'm not as hopeful after Sonic Forces. p.s. Great vid!

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

A lot of the devs leaving doesn't surprise me given the current state of 3D Sonic. If they could take a page from Mania and hire on indie/fan devs for the next 3D Sonic I think that would go a long way towards getting back to what makes the games special I felt the same way replaying the Adventure games. I thought people were just being sucked up by nostalgia but taking out the boost mechanic makes for a way better experience Thank you so much!

@jamainegardner4193 2 года назад

Anyone remember Boost Mode from Advance 2? That should make a comeback in 3D. Also If the Boost Gameplay is such a drag on resources, just make it the ending to a stage like the Mach Speed Sections.

@Vintagesonic1 2 года назад

6:44 - 7:19 I literally thought I was the only one with this opinion. I was just thinking about it the other day, as well.

@PowPowSmash 2 года назад

We're not alone in preferring 3D over 2D Sonic...it's just hard to find other like us lol

@butterknife4621 Год назад

I think the boost should be a supplementary type of gameplay to the adventure style.

@PowPowSmash Год назад

Boost is looking more supplementary in Frontiers so far which I'm excited about

@rjavon136 3 года назад

Love your channel dawg . Keep it up

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Thank you so much! Comments like these make my day :)

@ivanbackfromthecardshop8093 3 года назад

I think they could actually take a lesson from O6 and replace the high speed segments with a boost level. Instead of filling the game with a bunch of 2d levels we get some more 3d sonic gameplay with the occasional boost level when the story calls for it. This also means they don't have to make nearly as many boost levels which should help them develop some actually decent ones and not the ten second one button levels from forces.

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Yeah I could do without the endless runner segments from 06 since they were a mess to try to get to work but I could see having sections of the game where only boosting is available. Kind of like getting a wisp

@javisingsmusic9444 3 года назад

"Full House" "welp guess im not saving the world today" lmaooooooo, that part got me. I really would like to enjoy sonic games but the boost mechanic and lack of thought put into it really deters me, great video as always man, this was really well formulated and i can't wait to hear your other opinions about sonic games!

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Yeah I was really happy with how all of the cutaways turned out in this video :) Thanks Javi! This video doing well gives me more confidence to make Sonic videos along with my Smash content

@Radiant_Emerald 3 года назад

let's go! new pow pow video!

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Thanks for all of the support :)

@Magloyr Год назад

Bro needs to try the 3ds version of lost world. While there’s a run button (ofc) I found myself not knowing about it until my friend pointed it out to me, after I was half way through the desert zone. It has good controls and the speed momentum isn’t all half-assed

@Chrysosi 3 года назад

Enjoyed this one as much as the others. Got me excited about the 30th anniversary and something possibly coming out, havent touched too many since 360 era but always ready. And yeh i never noticed till now how difficult its been to switch from platformer to full on 3D but i got faith!!

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

I'm glad that you liked it bro! I'm hoping we get some news about the game at E3 this year since Sega will be there :)

@kevanprogamer 3 года назад

Great video I didnt know you know AttackingTuccans

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Thank you! Yeah he and I met at MAGFest a couple years ago and have become friends :)

@kevanprogamer 3 года назад

@@PowPowSmash cool

@user-bb2op9he1x 3 года назад

boost will never work without good 2d sections one part of what makes the boost gameplay so good is how constantly the camera shifting you see sonic running in all different angels topdown from front and back and side ways in 2d im sure that if sonic team made good 2d sections no one will complain about them just look at mario he had 2d sections in his 3d games since galaxy and no one complain about them

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Yeah you're probably right that boost wouldn't work without 2D unless they incorporate in more sections that slow you down like springs and enemies to hit But 2D is very very rare in Mario Odyssey and the Galaxies to be fair

@AndyCormierYT 3 года назад

But me like boost :( Though I think boosting can stay if they replaced ALL 2D sections in 3D games with no-boost sections of 3d platforming more akin to SA2, or if they brought back the spin dash but made it more fluid to use (IE if you tap it, you speed up but don't stop, hold it, you slow/stop but speed up more)

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Yeah if they're going to keep boost around I think it needs to be extremely nerfed in terms of how often it can be used so the player has to think about expending it more At the end of the day IO just want some semblance of Adventure's 3D platforming back :(

@raptorlec 3 года назад

I wish I was home more to make more unique RU-vid videos because I also had a plan of eventually making a video about this topic and you nailed everything I would’ve said. Boost is just hold down and beat the level, adventure style allows sonic to feel like you’re going fast but is not TOO fast, and I also think the 2D games are WAY too overrated because you are right, I can never see or expect what I’m about to run into. Great video man!

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Thanks Alec! Yeah as much as it would be cool to go super fast as Sonic all the time it just doesn't make for interesting level design I get why people enjoy the 2D games but they're just not my cup of tea lol

@justwoomy 3 года назад

My gripe with the 3D Sonic games is just how many stupid gimmicks there are in them. Like Unleashed has fun day stages IMO, but is ruined by the night stages (again IMO). Sonic Generations (which is my favorite one) also had the classic 2D stages, which although justified as it was an anniversary title, was still a gimmick. Same thing with Forces. The only one which doesn’t have a real “gimmick” is colors, which I dislike for the wisps and too many 2D areas that just DO NOT work. That’s why I can never bet a 3D Sonic game. Thinking back with how many I’ve played, I just haven’t beaten any. Even Adventure and Adventure 2. I have both of them, but can’t really get through them because of the treasure hunting stages. I would love to see an entire video about why you love Sonic Unleashed! :)

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Yeah Sonic Team's constant bouncing from gimmick to gimmick that overtakes the gameplay is why they can't seem to figure out 3D Sonic IMO. When Mario implements a mechanic it builds upon the 3D platforming foundation that's already there but when Sonic does it the mechanic takes away from the experience. I will definitely make a full video about Sonic Unleashed one day! The one I really want to make is for Sonic and the Black Knight too though 😍

@larryflaco8320 3 года назад

I'd like to classify Adventure 1 and 2 with the classic era it's hard to explain why I think that

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Really? I'd argue they're more different from the 2D games than the boost games are

@SantiagoMonroy5 2 года назад

i actually enjoy 06... It is a terrible game but god i really enjoy the stages, Far more fun than other "better" sonic games. Also, when are you gonna make a Black Knight or Unleashed video?

@PowPowSmash 2 года назад

That's totally fair lol, nothing wrong with liking a game that isn't as good overall if it has things you enjoy more! I'll make an Unleashed video sometime next year probably but my Black Knight video I want to make at 5 or 10k subs depending on how my channel growth is going. I want the game to get the exposure I think it deserves

@castform7 3 года назад

I like the Boost but it's slowly become less and less interesting from game to game especially in Forces where it feels like they just didn't even try to make a level and just made straight lines with enemies and bad 2D sections sprinkled in. I'd love to see them make a game where Sonic can go fast AND has nice scenery and level layouts. I also like the idea of Sonic just making 2D and 3D games seperate (the one thing I want Sonic to take from Mario). I'd hope they'd still be competent enough to not make every 2D game feel like the same thing over and over like New Super Mario Bros. considering how great Mania was and having 2D focused games could leave more room for them to develop good soley 3D focused experiences.

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Agreed on all of this, if they can find a way to make the boost mechanic less centralizing like reducing the amount Sonic has access to it then it's fine but I would sooner do without it at this point Mania showed how good 2D Sonic can still be when it's given its own games so I hope they keep up that trend

@alexanderadams9058 3 года назад

These past few sonic games have been...decent but the main thing that keeps them from greatness is the 2d sections. (Also wisps...) It feels like sega is cheapening out on us with not making fully 3d worlds like they did in unleashed and the dreamcast games. I get that they might not have the budget for that anymore but to fix that they could've just focused on Sonic's gameplay. But...I guess they've tried that already so all they can do is throw everything at the wall and hope it sticks....at least the soundtracks for these games are still amazing.

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Unleashed actually started the trend of adding 2D sections to the 3D games unfortunately. Idk if budget is the issue rather a lot of the original dev team has moved on so they don't seem to know what to do with Sonic in 3D anymore :/ But yeah even the worst Sonic games still have good soundtracks (Boom doesn't count lol)

@Violafrfr 3 года назад

I've always wished we got a 3d sonic game that took more from 3d mario, like giving the player multiple deep and engaging movement options that allowed you to feel more in control of your mobility while still retaining the idea of going fast. cause every 3d sonic platformer has been super straightforward with its movement, and has tried to make it as easy to go fast as possible, but usually ends up making moving around feel clunky/limited/boring. if the movement itself was made more challenging instead of basing the challenge solely on like a million random platforming gimmicks and stuff, it could make gameplay flow better instead of forcing the player to slow down at some points and taking control away from the player to go obnoxiously fast at others anyway thanks for more lofi powpow beats to practice attack cancels at 2 AM to

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

You hit the nail on the head with this comment Lil, the movement options in Sonic games feels too limited most of the time. Weirdly enough, Lost World has the most depth in this department lol. Clunky is the perfect word to describe how it feels to pilot Sonic in the boost era when you're not going super fast. I think that if they're going to make the movement more challenging and levels less reliant on gimmicks they'll have to get rid of the boost mechanic

@SantiagoMonroy5 2 года назад

Do you like the werehog stages? I do.

@PowPowSmash 2 года назад

They're more fun than people give them credit for, the main issue is how long they are and that there are more night than day stages

@SpiralPoliFemboy 2 года назад

The best story in Sonic history is E-102 Gamma and you can't tell me different

@PowPowSmash 2 года назад

I too watched the splashdash video that came out on Friday

@SpiralPoliFemboy 2 года назад

@@PowPowSmash I'm gonna watch it now, but yeah Gamma has always had such a beautiful story and it's one of the few stories that was never destroyed by retcons or other stuff. It's the best story in Sonic, no doubt.

@GeneralAlpaca 3 года назад

10:42 "Did they see how well received unleashed was..." You do know Sonic Unleashed didn't receive the best acclaim at release right?

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

That's a good point given how people still don't like the night stages, I definitely overestimated the reception at launch given how popular it is today. But it got a more positive reception than Shadow the Hedgehog, 06, and Secret Rings right?

@GeneralAlpaca 3 года назад

@@PowPowSmash true, good video btw

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

@@GeneralAlpaca thank you! 😁

@SantiagoMonroy5 2 года назад

@@PowPowSmash actually, Critics liked Secret Rings back in the day...

@larryflaco8320 3 года назад

Is the dark era really that bad Heroes is the second greatest Sonic game first being Sonic pocket Adventure Sonic Riders is a certified Hood classic

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

We stan Sonic Riders

@xraiderblack1850 3 года назад

Heroes isn't a dark age game; the adventure dark age started in Shadow the Hedgehog. And yes, I do believe that there are 3 different dark ages in Sonic: Classic, Adventure, and Modern.

@itsgrey8135 2 года назад

Sonic team didn't make mania and Sonic team didn't know how to design the 2D platforms in Forces

@BigRigCreates 3 года назад

Sonic X fans are disappointed in the title.

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

It's funny because I use a Sonic X clip to talk about why I don't like boost LOL

@Eman02kG 3 года назад

Infinite spindash is boost in disguise

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Spindash is a lot more balanced in modern Sonic games but I definitely agree in the 2D games lol

@Eman02kG 3 года назад

@@PowPowSmash I meant lost world specifically

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

I guess but unless I'm wrong it can't be used to plow through every enemy. You still need to homing attack some from what I remember. Not to mention Sonic moves plenty fast just with his dash and there's platforming obstacles to avoid along the way that are harder to avoid if you're spindashing

@undeadbatman9762 3 года назад

Boost can be open world type too. Seaside hill in generations showed that. And unleashed is the closet we ever got to actually feeling as fast as Sonic (in gameplay). But once again forces ruined boost.

@PowPowSmash 3 года назад

Yeah unleashed really nailed the feeling of playing as Sonic, but with how difficult it is to make quality boost levels I'm not surprised that there ended up being way more night stages